Fugitive: Photo Painting and Repairs.
Ex.
The original is here...
http://www.geocities.com/excrementor69/Stuff/Black_And_White.jpg
I did my best to remove the scratches and cracks but the steps still show
the slight difference in shade along the 'fault line'.
This may be due to the picture not sitting perfectly flat during the
scan...at least those are my thoughts after the fact.
The retouched photo with colouring is here...
http://www.geocities.com/excrementor69/Stuff/Colour.jpg
Questions I have... dark areas are hard to have any colour show thru...I'd
like to make things look a little more natural but in order to get a greyish
colour to the steps I almost lose any detail in the steps ( kinda like
colouring it with crayons instead of water colours ).
The way I did it was to create layers, colour the areas I wanted on the
layer, then convert the layer to an overlay.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...I'm feeling like a kid in a
candy who has a severe addiction to sweets. My wifes getting a worried look
on her face 'cause she's feeling the intensity of my obession here.
Both pictures were compressed prior to uploading as well.
Thanks muchly,
Ex. ( John M. )
Anyone else who wants to contribute comments feel free...
Fugitive
wrote:
The main problem as I see it is that over exposure or missing data
areas can not be fixed without painting in the detailed. The woman is
in ok shape to work with, the alien, I mean baby is a mess. The area
of grass in foreground is not too large, so not to hard to fix. You
may also want to work on your technique. The lady looks pretty good,
but the house and grass, way to intense, it there on layers, turn em
down. A lot of people don't realize the colors around us are usually
muted a bit. Don't use high Saturation levels. Although there may be
houses in the country that look like that one, not in my neighborhood.
Good luck
were always here.
Greg
a few things....< http://community.webshots.com/user/fugitive02
It is better to be high-spirited even though one makes more mistakes, than to be narrow-minded and all to prudent.
V.Van Gogh
Uni
"Ex." wrote:
>
> I pulled out the only picture of my Mom in my possesion.
>
> The original is here...
> http://www.geocities.com/excrementor69/Stuff/Black_And_White.jpg
>
> I did my best to remove the scratches and cracks but the steps still show
> the slight difference in shade along the 'fault line'.
> This may be due to the picture not sitting perfectly flat during the
> scan...at least those are my thoughts after the fact.
>
> The retouched photo with colouring is here...
> http://www.geocities.com/excrementor69/Stuff/Colour.jpg
>
> Questions I have... dark areas are hard to have any colour show thru...I'd
> like to make things look a little more natural but in order to get a greyish
> colour to the steps I almost lose any detail in the steps ( kinda like
> colouring it with crayons instead of water colours ).
>
> The way I did it was to create layers, colour the areas I wanted on the
> layer, then convert the layer to an overlay.
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...I'm feeling like a kid in a
> candy who has a severe addiction to sweets. My wifes getting a worried look
> on her face 'cause she's feeling the intensity of my obession here.
LOL!!! Don't feel bad, John. Editing pictures can be quite addictive! :)
You did a very nice job at coloring!!
I added a few things to it that I thought you might like to see:
http://community.webshots.com/user/unidude2002
It's in the Paint Shop Pro 7 album, titled Colour-1-Uni.jpg
It's not technically correct, but I feel it looks a little better.
I also cleaned up mom's face a little.
Thanks, John!
Regards,
John (AKA Uni :)
Fugitive
>
>The main problem as I see it is that over exposure or missing data
>areas can not be fixed without painting in the detailed. The woman is
>in ok shape to work with, the alien, I mean baby is a mess. The area
>of grass in foreground is not too large, so not to hard to fix. You
>may also want to work on your technique. The lady looks pretty good,
>but the house and grass, way to intense, it there on layers, turn em
>down. A lot of people don't realize the colors around us are usually
>muted a bit. Don't use high Saturation levels. Although there may be
>houses in the country that look like that one, not in my neighborhood.
>Good luck
>were always here.
>
>
>
>Greg
run a histogram on the baby, but that screws up the woman, you can run
one on the lady but that screws up the baby. Answer, a mask. I ain't
worth a damn when it comes to masks, but someone will be by shortly to
show you how.
Ex.
"Fugitive" <gregfar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> >
> >The main problem as I see it is that over exposure or missing data
> >areas can not be fixed without painting in the detailed. The woman is
> >in ok shape to work with, the alien, I mean baby is a mess. The area
> >of grass in foreground is not too large, so not to hard to fix. You
> >may also want to work on your technique. The lady looks pretty good,
> >but the house and grass, way to intense, it there on layers, turn em
> >down. A lot of people don't realize the colors around us are usually
> >muted a bit. Don't use high Saturation levels. Although there may be
> >houses in the country that look like that one, not in my neighborhood.
> >Good luck
> >were always here.
> >
> >
> >
> >Greg
> You need a mask because of the way the image is divided up. You can
> run a histogram on the baby, but that screws up the woman, you can run
> one on the lady but that screws up the baby. Answer, a mask. I ain't
> worth a damn when it comes to masks, but someone will be by shortly to
> show you how.
Good point. I tried using a mask. I can create it, edit it somewhat, but
when I try getting rid of it after I'm done with it is the problem...the
checkered pattern remains overlaid on my image.
Histogram, histogram...I should know this right??
I've signed up for Photoshop course at our local college here in Ottawa,
Canada. It's 6 hrs a week during the evenings. Part 1 of two parts. If I
complete these plus a few others I can be certified......as a photographer.
Thanks,
John.
Fugitive
>Good point. I tried using a mask. I can create it, edit it somewhat, but
>when I try getting rid of it after I'm done with it is the problem...the
>checkered pattern remains overlaid on my image.
>Histogram, histogram...I should know this right??
>John.
>
turn off that mask with the icon on the layers palette, a pic of a
mask, maybe that'll do it.
FJ de Bruin
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> Anyone else who wants to contribute comments feel free...
>
So, I gave your picture a try.
I followed a different approach. Instead of trying to salvage the over
exposed areas, I started by cropping the picture to remove the very white
band at the bottom and part of the sky. It is easier to delete stuff than
to invent it and it won't harm the main subjects of the picture: the mother
and the baby.
Next, I copied the left wheel and turned it into a right wheel. I could not
find a satisfactory solution for the rest of the pram though.
I started with a bit of quick-n-sloppy colorisation just to see what the
end result could look like: http://www.fdebruin.com/misc/Image3.jpg.
Frank
Uni
Frank, it looks pretty good. However, in my opinion, it looks like a old
color photo, rather than a enhanced old color photo. In other words, if
you were to take that same identical picture today, with a fancy digital
camera, do you think it'd look like that? It needs a bit more
brilliance, I feel.
Nice work.
Uni
>
> Frank
Ex.
"FJ de Bruin" <fdeb...@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
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I like it.
You went to the opposite end of the colour extreme. I've got to tone down
the blue porch in the background somehow.
I like the crop job. I'll likely do the same with mine since trying to
recover that area will be tough. When I looked at the actual photo, I
realized the scanner didn't pick up some the info in that area...it was
overexposed but there is still a little info there. I'm thinking of
rescanning with the scanner adjustments set to get that part of the photo
then cutting and pasting it into the picture then working on it from there.
Thanks!
John.
Fugitive
>I like the crop job. I'll likely do the same with mine since trying to
>recover that area will be tough. When I looked at the actual photo, I
>realized the scanner didn't pick up some the info in that area...it was
>overexposed but there is still a little info there. I'm thinking of
>rescanning with the scanner adjustments set to get that part of the photo
>then cutting and pasting it into the picture then working on it from there.
>
>Thanks!
>John.
>
So, are you gonna work on it some more and then post for perusal?
Ex.
>
> >I like the crop job. I'll likely do the same with mine since trying to
> >recover that area will be tough. When I looked at the actual photo, I
> >realized the scanner didn't pick up some the info in that area...it was
> >overexposed but there is still a little info there. I'm thinking of
> >rescanning with the scanner adjustments set to get that part of the photo
> >then cutting and pasting it into the picture then working on it from
there.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >John.
> >
>
>
> So, are you gonna work on it some more and then post for perusal?
>
Well, Hell yeah!!
Actually, the one that's posted at the same link has been fixed up a bit. I
redid my Ma's face a little better ( gave her white teeth instead of the
skin coloured ones ) plus darkened the RGB a bit on the alien's, uh....,
baby's face and buggy.
http://www.geocities.com/excrementor69/Stuff/Colour.jpg
I got started on it on the weekend in an addictive frenzy and didn't want to
stop till I got it finished. The porch I knew was over-the-top for the
saturation, but I had other stuff to finish with it. Plus my two kids had
friends over for a sleepover and the wife wanted a hand and...blah blah
blah. Before I knew it, I was back on the highway to work and it was Monday
morning.
I'm trying to figure out how to tone down the porch with a certain degree of
control and back off some of the other colours ( grass seemed a little
intense as well ). And I'm tinkering with the idea of rescanning to get as
much info for the overexposed area. And I've managed to learn quite a bit
about masks...thanks to your advice.
It'll likely be the weekend before I really get the time to fully jump into
this again. All of the advice and help is much appreciated, believe me.
- John.
Uni
"Ex." wrote:
>
> "Fugitive" <gregfar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:ucr2ssohchv2bjei7...@4ax.com...
> >
> > >I like the crop job. I'll likely do the same with mine since trying to
> > >recover that area will be tough. When I looked at the actual photo, I
> > >realized the scanner didn't pick up some the info in that area...it was
> > >overexposed but there is still a little info there. I'm thinking of
> > >rescanning with the scanner adjustments set to get that part of the photo
> > >then cutting and pasting it into the picture then working on it from
> there.
> > >
> > >Thanks!
> > >John.
> > >
> >
> >
> > So, are you gonna work on it some more and then post for perusal?
> >
>
> Well, Hell yeah!!
>
> Actually, the one that's posted at the same link has been fixed up a bit. I
> redid my Ma's face a little better ( gave her white teeth instead of the
> skin coloured ones ) plus darkened the RGB a bit on the alien's, uh....,
> baby's face and buggy.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/excrementor69/Stuff/Colour.jpg
Since you don't have a Index file, you're better off posting the URL
like this:
http://www.geocities.com/excrementor69/Stuff/
Uni
Fugitive
>I got started on it on the weekend in an addictive frenzy and didn't want to
>stop till I got it finished. The porch I knew was over-the-top for the
>saturation, but I had other stuff to finish with it. Plus my two kids had
>friends over for a sleepover and the wife wanted a hand and...blah blah
>blah. Before I knew it, I was back on the highway to work and it was Monday
>morning.
>
>I'm trying to figure out how to tone down the porch with a certain degree of
>control and back off some of the other colours ( grass seemed a little
>intense as well ). And I'm tinkering with the idea of rescanning to get as
>much info for the overexposed area. And I've managed to learn quite a bit
>about masks...thanks to your advice.
>
>It'll likely be the weekend before I really get the time to fully jump into
>this again. All of the advice and help is much appreciated, believe me.
>
>- John.
>
It's also possible to make the faces look better. A little edge
preserving smooth can go a long way. The porch can be partially cut
and pasted and partially painted until it's whole. I like the saddle
shoes, late '40s thru early '50s me thinks.