PT: Painter "With Water" effect
Silverblade
and folk are reffering to Painter's "With Water" and "gloss" effects...what
are these? Can they be re-created in PSP?? Is "With Water" just a sort of
"smudge"??
Can anyone help? :)
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brushes that paint in transparency levels and (I think) in degrees of water
saturation runs. This might can be done in PSP6.02 with smudge and a
semi-transparency level of the brush not sure how to get the water
saturation runs. Hope this helps some.
John
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quality
it works...there are people who have been using it for years and are still
discovering new things about it.
It's a great companion for PSP as it provides great textures, lighting, and
natural media brushes. I don't care for the way it handles layers, and
selections for everyday purposes, and you have to make sure you change the
settings for any brush you want to use on a transparent layer or it won't
work, plus it erases with what you originally set up as paper color when you
open a new image....no transparent erasing>_<.
It's definately not a replacement for PSP, it just does different things,
and what it does well, it does very well (painting).
Check out the impasto brushes...very cool<g>
Paint with water seems to have a diffusing effect when used with thier water
based media.
I have'nt seen the "gloss" effect...what version do you have?
I have also found it best to work in psd format. That way you can switch
between programs, and maintain all your layers.
Casey
Jack Walder
Water seems to be the smudge effects you mention, at least in Classic. What
version are you using? Corel has a $200 rebate on Painter 6!!
Cheers
Jack
Silverblade
No I dont' have it, it's that I was reading about how certain effects were
done and was trying to see if I could do it in PSP :)
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"quality" <quali...@email.msn.com> wrote in message
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> I just got Painter 5. You really have to play with everything to learn how
> it works...there are people who have been using it for years and are still
> discovering new things about it.
>
> It's a great companion for PSP as it provides great textures, lighting,
and
> natural media brushes. I don't care for the way it handles layers, and
> selections for everyday purposes, and you have to make sure you change the
> settings for any brush you want to use on a transparent layer or it won't
> work, plus it erases with what you originally set up as paper color when
you
> open a new image....no transparent erasing>_<.
>
> It's definately not a replacement for PSP, it just does different things,
> and what it does well, it does very well (painting).
> Check out the impasto brushes...very cool<g>
>
> Paint with water seems to have a diffusing effect when used with thier
water
> based media.
>
> I have'nt seen the "gloss" effect...what version do you have?
> I have also found it best to work in psd format. That way you can switch
> between programs, and maintain all your layers.
>
> Casey
Silverblade
pal suggests airbrush and smudge.
He said in painter making a custom brush was great for hair effects, which
are tricky!
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> I don't know about Painter - however, Deep Paint 2D has some watercolor
> brushes that paint in transparency levels and (I think) in degrees of
water
> saturation runs. This might can be done in PSP6.02 with smudge and a
> semi-transparency level of the brush not sure how to get the water
> saturation runs. Hope this helps some.
> John
>
Silverblade
Ah I got Painter Classic with me graphire but didn't install it as it's a
cut down version, Ill need to try it though!
$200 !!!! From having Painter Classic?! Wow!
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"Jack Walder" <jwa...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Hi 'Blade. I have Painter Classic that came with my tablet. just checked
it.
> Water seems to be the smudge effects you mention, at least in Classic.
What
> version are you using? Corel has a $200 rebate on Painter 6!!
> Cheers
> Jack
cobb
tp LOL
John
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> I think I would like for them to just give you KPT5 and KPT6 instead of
the
> re-bate:) and thanks for the tip of using the airbrush with smudge (I
guess
> the transparancy levels shoud be adjusted to get the wet look - BTW have
you
> been able to get the airbrush to run like when you use a real air brush by
> holding it to long in a spot?
> John
>
> Silverblade <steven....@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
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cobb
Ronald Vick
<steven....@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
>Does anyone in here have Painter?? I'm learning some new stuff for 3D work
>and folk are reffering to Painter's "With Water" and "gloss" effects...what
>are these? Can they be re-created in PSP?? Is "With Water" just a sort of
>"smudge"??
>Can anyone help? :)
Yes, I've got Painter 6. Painter concentrates on realistic
'Painterly' effects. A paintbrush in Painter, set to watercolor, may
be with color or with water, and it's effect on the image is much like
an actual watercolor effect. You even need to 'Dry' the image to go
to different paint effects, such as oils or charcoal. All of these
effects are far more than just a smudge or brush shape. Duplicating
the effects in PSP is very difficult, although there are plugins that
help. To an artist, Painter is the way tools should work, although
the program itself is far more difficult to master than PSP.
(there is also a difference in price between the two programs that
makes the home user flinch! Once you've kicked out the $500 or so
that the first costs, you can upgrade at about $100 per version.)
It used to be a MetaCreations product, but Corel has it now.
Here's the address to read the specs and see some examples.
(incidently, nozzles=tubes)
http://newgraphics.corel.com/products/painter6.html
Be sure to examine the screen capture in 'Club MetaCreations' to see a
typical tool layout, showing just a hint of the control you have over
the brush.
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quality
> Ta mate :) I've been working with small brshes and smudge to get effect,
a
> pal suggests airbrush and smudge.
> He said in painter making a custom brush was great for hair effects, which
> are tricky!
Ooooooh yes! I have discovered the perfect "hair" brush!
P5: Library=impasto, style= large round bristle,
method =plugin, sub category= transparent layer.
BTW: you can still DL the demo at Metacreations. You can't save, and it's
not the full version; but you can play with it and see most of the neat
stuff it does. You can get the full version on E Bay for about $30 (not bad
for a $500 program)
Casey
quality
"LKRZ" <lk...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I'll save stuff in Painter Classic as a .jpg and then use it as a layer in
PSP.
> You can add some nice background textures that way.
You're better off saving as a .psd so you don't lose any image quality.
Casey
quality
> Hm, price=OUCH! :>
> maybe see if theres an educational version while me at college
> thanks for the help! :)
Try E-Bay. They regularly have P5 for around $30...then you can upgrade to
your heatrs content <g>
Careful on E-Bay though.....you're likely to start bidding on everything
yummy (I just got Poser 4 at $139.) I've seen a couple of Fontagraphers over
there too, as well as.....
:o)~~~~~ ( we're sorry, the user is experiencing technical difficulties due
to software fantasyitis. we now return you to your regularly scheduled
posting)
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cobb
At the Corel home page click on promotions on the top left side of the page
Barbara J. Bradley <barb...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <Q2fZ4.103201$R4.5...@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com>, "Jack Walder"
> <jwa...@home.com> writes:
>
> >
> >Hi 'Blade. I have Painter Classic that came with my tablet. just checked
it.
> >Water seems to be the smudge effects you mention, at least in Classic.
What
> >version are you using? Corel has a $200 rebate on Painter 6!!
> >Cheers
> >Jack
>
> Where did you see that?
> Barb
LKRZ
>Ah I got Painter Classic with me graphire but didn't install it as it's a
>cut down version, Ill need to try it though!
>$200 !!!! From having Painter Classic?! Wow!
You can get some interesting effects with Painter Classic that I haven't been
able to duplicate as easily in PSP. I like using the Palette Knives tool,
particularly the dry brushes, on photos. I've got an example up at:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=31200&a=1256897
You can also get good effects with the add surface texture tool.
Silverblade
maybe see if theres an educational version while me at college
thanks for the help! :)
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> I think I would like for them to just give you KPT5 and KPT6 instead of
the
> re-bate:) and thanks for the tip of using the airbrush with smudge (I
guess
> the transparancy levels shoud be adjusted to get the wet look - BTW have
you
> been able to get the airbrush to run like when you use a real air brush by
> holding it to long in a spot?
> John
>
> Silverblade <steven....@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:tvfZ4.14187$F31.1...@news3.cableinet.net...
> > I've not got it, just trying to see how to redo certain effects in PSP
:)
> > Ah I got Painter Classic with me graphire but didn't install it as it's
a
> > cut down version, Ill need to try it though!
> > $200 !!!! From having Painter Classic?! Wow!
> > --
> > Silverblade
> > I'd rather be a Fool who believes in Dragons, than a King who believes
in
> > Nothing.
> >
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> > "Jack Walder" <jwa...@home.com> wrote in message
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> > > Hi 'Blade. I have Painter Classic that came with my tablet. just
checked
> > it.
> > > Water seems to be the smudge effects you mention, at least in
Classic.
> > What
> > > version are you using? Corel has a $200 rebate on Painter 6!!
> > > Cheers
> > > Jack
> > > "Silverblade" <steven....@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:vdbZ4.13585$F31.1...@news3.cableinet.net...
> > > > Does anyone in here have Painter?? I'm learning some new stuff for
3D
> > work
> > > > and folk are reffering to Painter's "With Water" and "gloss"
> > > effects...what
> > > > are these? Can they be re-created in PSP?? Is "With Water" just a
> sort
> > of
> > > > "smudge"??
> > > > Can anyone help? :)
Silverblade
change ;)
Silverblade
something I will need to try! :)
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"LKRZ" <lk...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >I've not got it, just trying to see how to redo certain effects in PSP :)
> >Ah I got Painter Classic with me graphire but didn't install it as it's a
> >cut down version, Ill need to try it though!
> >$200 !!!! From having Painter Classic?! Wow!
>
Barbara J. Bradley
>
>Hi 'Blade. I have Painter Classic that came with my tablet. just checked it.
>Water seems to be the smudge effects you mention, at least in Classic. What
>version are you using? Corel has a $200 rebate on Painter 6!!
>Cheers
>Jack
Where did you see that?
Barb
Diane Fields
wrote:
>On Wed, 31 May 2000 20:59:28 GMT, "Jack Walder" <jwa...@home.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Hi 'Blade. I have Painter Classic that came with my tablet. just checked it.
>>Water seems to be the smudge effects you mention, at least in Classic. What
>>version are you using? Corel has a $200 rebate on Painter 6!!
>>Cheers
>
>It was said further down that there is a $200 rebate towards P6 on the
>Corel page--I'm looking at the P6 page and find nothing there-where
>did you find it?
>
Ooops, I found it under special promotions. I have Painter Classic
and use it quite a bit--miss using layers, but I do use tracing paper
there some. However, the most efficient way for me to use it is to
create layers to use in PSP (I use it primarily to create textures for
Poser).
Diane B
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designer, weaver, colorist of interior textiles
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Diane Fields
wrote:
>Hi 'Blade. I have Painter Classic that came with my tablet. just checked it.
>Water seems to be the smudge effects you mention, at least in Classic. What
>version are you using? Corel has a $200 rebate on Painter 6!!
>Cheers
It was said further down that there is a $200 rebate towards P6 on the
Corel page--I'm looking at the P6 page and find nothing there-where
did you find it?
Diane B
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"Barbara J. Bradley" <barb...@aol.com> wrote in message <snip>
>
> That is the LE version.
What is "LE"?
Casey
Barbara J. Bradley
writes:
>You can get the full version on E Bay for about $30 (not bad
>for a $500 program)
>
That is the LE version.
Barb
Barbara J. Bradley
<co...@hiwaay.net> writes:
>
>Barbara,
>At the Corel home page click on promotions on the top left side of the page
>
Thanks you . . . got it.
Barb
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"Ron Lacey" <n...@home.ca> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 1 Jun 2000 22:44:14 -0400, "quality"
> <quali...@email.msn.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Barbara J. Bradley" <barb...@aol.com> wrote in message <snip>
> >>
> >
>
> It's a stripped down version, retails for around $100 or less and is
> often bundled with printers and scanners.
Ohhhh>_<
Does that mean I can't upgrade?
I think I need to go have a chat with Corel.
Casey
quality
> On Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:18:03 -0400, "quality"
> <quali...@email.msn.com> wrote:
>
>
> >> >What is "LE"?
> >>
> >> It's a stripped down version, retails for around $100 or less and is
> >> often bundled with printers and scanners.
> >
> >Ohhhh>_<
> >Does that mean I can't upgrade?
> >I think I need to go have a chat with Corel.
>
> LE. The LE in apps is usually short for Lite.
It was part of a broken Epson bundle, but it says it's the full
version...5.0 though, not 5.5. I thought maybe I'd need a patch, then be
able to upgrade to 6, but I don't see anything on the Corel site about
Painter upgrades/patches yet, and Metacreations just has referral links to
the companies that bought out the software.
Casey
Jack Walder
quality
> Hi Casey. PSP qualifies for the $200 reabate for Painter 6.
Yup!:)
I talked to someone at Corel. The rebate offer *is* the upgrade, *and*, it's
valid through December 31, 2000.
I just bought, or recieved as gifts, a whole bunch of software, so I think
I'll wait and get it for myself as a Solstice present<g>
Casey
Silverblade
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> On Thu, 01 Jun 2000 02:19:47 GMT, "Silverblade"
> <steven....@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Hm, price=OUCH! :>
> >maybe see if theres an educational version while me at college
> >thanks for the help! :)
>
> Looking around the net shops and Corel, it appears that you can get
> Painter 6 for around $130 or so. (check Corel's site for a coupon
> worth $200 if you pay full price.)
>
> P6 is an extremely powerful program with many good features. If
> you've done artwork, you'll absolutely love the tools. Palette
> knifes, brushes that mimic all of the artists sets, etc. I love the
> effects I get with it, but there's always this voice in the back of my
> mind, saying 'Wish it was as straight forward as PSP.'
Silverblade
agh!!
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> In article <Q2fZ4.103201$R4.5...@news1.rdc1.nj.home.com>, "Jack Walder"
> <jwa...@home.com> writes:
>
> >
> >Hi 'Blade. I have Painter Classic that came with my tablet. just checked
it.
> >Water seems to be the smudge effects you mention, at least in Classic.
What
> >version are you using? Corel has a $200 rebate on Painter 6!!
> >Cheers
Opus (:>
>
literal sense, but rather in that you have a limited amount of things
you can attempt with it.
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