Nude painting finished!
Fugitive
several months. It was done in PSP, Painter and PS.
It's in my gallery. #2 pic
greg
Greg
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Porter
> several months. It was done in PSP, Painter and PS.
> It's in my gallery. #2 pic
>
> greg
Nice job.
Porter
Bob Dietz
> I just finished a painting I've been struggling with for
> several months. It was done in PSP, Painter and PS.
> It's in my gallery. #2 pic
Wish I had your talent, Greg.
Bob Dietz
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Porter
news:alt.binaries.comp-graphics
On occasions where a wispier border along hairlines might be desired? We
can also use custom brushes to make faster easier transitions along solid
edges.
The one I used on your subject doesn't really fit that hairline at all, and
was simply slapped on, to give you some idea of what I'm talking about here.
I frequently make individual brushes for each specific project, and don't
keep much that stuff on hand. My pile of custom brushes are already past
1k, and it just gets to be more trouble than it's worth, shuffling through
all those stinking brush files. Since whipping up new ones as needed always
better fits each project anyway, a lot of the older stuff gets pitched.
Kinda why they are called "custom" brushes. :)
I grabbed some color from her hair, resized one of my old leftover
ill-fitting "wispies" brushes, and clicked along the edge of her hairline.
Entire thing probably took all of about ten seconds. We already know how
much time it takes to drag and paint and smudge to produce those kind of
wispy edges from scratch. Consequently, IMHO when some wispies are desired?
Ten seconds is better. :))
I stuck some old wisps onto that white canvas too. Just in case you wanted
to export them off as a few starter quickie custom wispies brushes of your
own, and to play around with further.
Porter
Barbara J. Bradley
<gregfar...@earthlink.net> writes:
>
>I just finished a painting I've been struggling with for
>several months. It was done in PSP, Painter and PS.
>It's in my gallery. #2 pic
>
>greg
>
The nute is very nice, Greg. I like to boat too!
Barb
Barbara J. Bradley
(Barbara J. Bradley) writes:
NUDE, NUDE - now Porter will say I've been drinking!!
Barb
State of Entropy
Michelle
>From: Fugitive gregfar...@earthlink.net
>Date: 6/19/2002 3:24 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <ef0trs4qn9e2n8k9a...@4ax.com>
>
>I just finished a painting I've been struggling with for
>several months. It was done in PSP, Painter and PS.
>It's in my gallery. #2 pic
>
>greg
>
Wow Greg, beautiful!! You are very talented! :))
>
>
>Greg
>
>
>New a couple a things http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291841637
>It is better to be high-spirited even though one makes more mistakes, than to
>be narrow-minded and all to prudent.
>V.Van Gogh
>
>
>
>
>
>
Michelle ;-)
Paint Shop Pro & More!
http://members.aol.com/Mish234/index.html
Original tubes, links to PSP sites, fonts, clip art, wavs and other fun stuff!
Jeanne Brynie
>I just finished a painting I've been struggling with for
>several months. It was done in PSP, Painter and PS.
>It's in my gallery. #2 pic
>
>greg
>
"*^*" Jeanne "*^*"
Fugitive
<S...@state-of-entropy.com> wrote:
>Beautiful, just beautiful. The boat was really nice as well.
>
Didn't do the bckgrnd, it's a famous painting by Monet.
Greg
New a couple a things http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291841637
I want to touch people with my art. I want them to say 'he feels deeply, he feels tenderly.'
Vincent Van Gogh
Fugitive
wrote:
and I wish I had your knowledge of how all this stuff works.
Thanks
Greg
New a couple a things http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291841637
Fugitive
>
>I stuck some old wisps onto that white canvas too. Just in case you wanted
>to export them off as a few starter quickie custom wispies brushes of your
>own, and to play around with further.
>
>Porter
>
>
Thank you for that. You'll never know how much I agonized over that
hair, sometimes there were 3 layers of hair. I've never done black
hair quite like that and didn't know what to do from one day til the
next, that's why the blue highlights, as I used to see em' in comic
books of Superman. I know your correct about the wispies, as you call
them but got so tired of redoing it that I finally said last nite.
Your done. I will implement these brushes. No one ever tells me how to
improve my stuff, I'm glad you did.
Greg
Greg
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Fugitive
Fugitive
wrote:
Thank You Jeanne.
Greg
New a couple a things http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291841637
Fugitive
wrote:
>Excellent Greg
I feel like I have arrived.
Thank You.
Greg
New a couple a things http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291841637
Fugitive
<Tvv...@noneofyourbusiness.com> wrote:
>All I can say is WOW!!! Greg this is gorgeous.
Thanks Tweets, what's your real name. Tweets
wants to come out Tweed in my mind.
Thanks.
Greg
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Tweets
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My real name is Sheila
Mike
Fugitive wrote:
>
> No one ever tells me how to
> improve my stuff, I'm glad you did.
>
> Greg
Now that you have had the compliments, do you want to know how to
improve the image?
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Ember
>I just finished a painting I've been struggling with for
>several months. It was done in PSP, Painter and PS.
>It's in my gallery. #2 pic
I'm sure its a nice painting but Opera won't work on your site.
Ember
Uni
>
> Fugitive wrote:
> >
> > No one ever tells me how to
> > improve my stuff, I'm glad you did.
> >
> > Greg
>
> Now that you have had the compliments, do you want to know how to
> improve the image?
Yeah, turn it back into the originals paintings that he "borrowed" !!!!
:-)
Uni
Fugitive
wrote:
I have to use NN to upload, but Opera 502 to view and surf.
I have to use NN for In Depth Discussions(a painting group) but
Opera works fine for Retouch Pro and Wet Canvas, weird huh?
Greg
New a couple a things http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291841637
Fugitive
<gregfar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>I just finished a painting I've been struggling with for
>several months. It was done in PSP, Painter and PS.
>It's in my gallery. #2 pic
>
>greg
I don't get to see the comments of a couple of you, is my
stuff up to your standards? .......chuckles...ha, ha, ha, ha
Greg
New a couple a things http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291841637
Mike
Fugitive wrote:
> I don't get to see the comments of a couple of you, is my
> stuff up to your standards? .......chuckles...ha, ha, ha, ha
I guess you were just after compliments. Your choice.
":^) ®
Uni
>
> On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 19:24:10 GMT, Fugitive
> <gregfar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >I just finished a painting I've been struggling with for
> >several months. It was done in PSP, Painter and PS.
> >It's in my gallery. #2 pic
> >
> >greg
>
> I don't get to see the comments of a couple of you, is my
> stuff up to your standards? .......chuckles...ha, ha, ha, ha
Do you take requests, or would it take you too long to find a painting
to modify? :-))
Uni - Yesterday he couldn't draw a circle, but today he's a famous
artist drawing butt shots of females :)
The Great Dane
--
Susan :o)
"Fugitive" <gregfar...@earthlink.net> skrev i en meddelelse
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| I just finished a painting I've been struggling with for
| several months. It was done in PSP, Painter and PS.
| It's in my gallery. #2 pic
|
| greg
|
|
|
| Greg
|
|
| New a couple a things http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291841637
Fugitive
<Sus...@susans-web.dk> wrote:
>this is really great Greg!! It was worth the struggling in my opinion!
I didn't know your name was susan, I was picturing some kinda Viking.
At least it made it to the surface, some don't.
Thank You Susan.
Greg
New a couple a things http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291841637
Sally Beacham
> I just finished a painting I've been struggling with for
> several months. It was done in PSP, Painter and PS.
> It's in my gallery. #2 pic
>
> greg
>
It's quite nice, Greg. I think it might be even nicer if you used a
different frame effect (simpler, and bigger, with a matte) that sets it off
and doesn't distract. Angela Cable put up a very good frame/matte tutorial
recently, I just don't have the link for some odd reason...
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Sally Beacham
> On 19 Jun 2002 22:40:06 GMT, barb...@aol.com (Barbara J. Bradley)
> wrote:
>
> >In article <20020619182219...@mb-mm.aol.com>,
barb...@aol.com
> >(Barbara J. Bradley) writes:
> >
> >>
> >>In article <ef0trs4qn9e2n8k9a...@4ax.com>, Fugitive
> >><gregfar...@earthlink.net> writes:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>I just finished a painting I've been struggling with for
> >>>several months. It was done in PSP, Painter and PS.
> >>>It's in my gallery. #2 pic
> >>>
> >>>greg
> >>>
> >>
> >> The nute is very nice, Greg. I like to boat too!
> >> Barb
> >
> > NUDE, NUDE - now Porter will say I've been drinking!!
> > Barb
> >
>
> Sally might too.
>
>
Nah, after the Bass Ale spellchecker, it looked just right to me, too.
Sally
Fugitive
wrote:
>
>"Fugitive" <gregfar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:ef0trs4qn9e2n8k9a...@4ax.com...
>> I just finished a painting I've been struggling with for
>> several months. It was done in PSP, Painter and PS.
>> It's in my gallery. #2 pic
>>
>> greg
>>
>
>
>It's quite nice, Greg. I think it might be even nicer if you used a
>different frame effect (simpler, and bigger, with a matte) that sets it off
>and doesn't distract. Angela Cable put up a very good frame/matte tutorial
>recently, I just don't have the link for some odd reason...
I'll give it a try, as I didn't really spend much time choosing it.
greg
Fugitive
>
>It's quite nice, Greg. I think it might be even nicer if you used a
>different frame effect (simpler, and bigger, with a matte) that sets it off
>and doesn't distract. Angela Cable put up a very good frame/matte tutorial
>recently, I just don't have the link for some odd reason...
I put the Reframe on a.b.c-g
Uni
>
> >
> >It's quite nice, Greg. I think it might be even nicer if you used a
> >different frame effect (simpler, and bigger, with a matte) that sets it off
> >and doesn't distract. Angela Cable put up a very good frame/matte tutorial
> >recently, I just don't have the link for some odd reason...
>
> I put the Reframe on a.b.c-g
Whoa! Is that part original or is it a prefab picture frame??!! :-)
Remember, don't use that Pretty Sad Picture frame app to frame your
masterpiece!!!
Uni
Mike
Fugitive wrote:
>
> On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 18:25:51 -0500, State of Entropy
> <S...@state-of-entropy.com> wrote:
>
> >Beautiful, just beautiful. The boat was really nice as well.
> >
>
> Didn't do the bckgrnd, it's a famous painting by Monet.
http://www.artunframed.com/images/Monet55/monet87.jpg
Mike
"Barbara J. Bradley" wrote:
>
> In article <ef0trs4qn9e2n8k9a...@4ax.com>, Fugitive
> <gregfar...@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> >
> >I just finished a painting I've been struggling with for
> >several months. It was done in PSP, Painter and PS.
> >It's in my gallery. #2 pic
> >
> >greg
> >
>
> The nute is very nice, Greg. I like to boat too!
> Barb
http://www.artunframed.com/images/Monet55/monet87.jpg
Uni
>
> "Barbara J. Bradley" wrote:
> >
> > In article <ef0trs4qn9e2n8k9a...@4ax.com>, Fugitive
> > <gregfar...@earthlink.net> writes:
> >
> > >
> > >I just finished a painting I've been struggling with for
> > >several months. It was done in PSP, Painter and PS.
> > >It's in my gallery. #2 pic
> > >
> > >greg
> > >
> >
> > The nute is very nice, Greg. I like to boat too!
> > Barb
>
> http://www.artunframed.com/images/Monet55/monet87.jpg
If you look hard enough, I'm sure you'll find the woman too :-)
Uni - Who believes Greg didn't even use PSP for that modified painting,
but had to mention it so fellow PSP worshippers would give him a ataboy
:-)
Sally Beacham
>
>
> >
> >It's quite nice, Greg. I think it might be even nicer if you used a
> >different frame effect (simpler, and bigger, with a matte) that sets it
off
> >and doesn't distract. Angela Cable put up a very good frame/matte
tutorial
> >recently, I just don't have the link for some odd reason...
>
>
> I put the Reframe on a.b.c-g
>
Ooooooooooooooh I like that much better. If it's possible, I'd make the
wood frame a smidge thinner, and the inner mat maybe twice as big. I like
the colours you chose for the frame and mat, did you "eyeball" it or follow
Angela's colour selection process? (She trained me how to choose mats and
frames, it was quite an education.)
Fugitive
wrote:
>
>"Fugitive" <gregfar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> >
>> >It's quite nice, Greg. I think it might be even nicer if you used a
>> >different frame effect (simpler, and bigger, with a matte) that sets it
>off
>> >and doesn't distract. Angela Cable put up a very good frame/matte
>tutorial
>> >recently, I just don't have the link for some odd reason...
>>
>>
>> I put the Reframe on a.b.c-g
>>
>
>
>Ooooooooooooooh I like that much better. If it's possible, I'd make the
>wood frame a smidge thinner, and the inner mat maybe twice as big. I like
>the colours you chose for the frame and mat, did you "eyeball" it or follow
>Angela's colour selection process? (She trained me how to choose mats and
>frames, it was quite an education.)
I don't need no stinkin' process. I eyeball everything, even things
that should be measured, like making matts and frames etc. I'm not too
keen on large matts except for some tiny pics they work. I should
learn the process, where is it?
Bob Dietz
>
> I don't need no stinkin' process. I eyeball everything, even things
> that should be measured, like making matts and frames etc. I'm not too
> keen on large matts except for some tiny pics they work. I should
> learn the process, where is it?
> greg
Angela's matting selection tutorial is at
http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/alaia/354/tutorials/matting/
Bob Dietz
Sally Beacham
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I like the Kris Method 2 of determining your frame/mat colours... except I
usually reduce to 6 colours or so....
Fugitive
wrote:
>
>"Bob Dietz" <rbdiet...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:3D128A31...@yahoo.com...
>> Fugitive wrote:
>> >
>> > I don't need no stinkin' process. I eyeball everything, even things
>> > that should be measured, like making matts and frames etc. I'm not too
>> > keen on large matts except for some tiny pics they work. I should
>> > learn the process, where is it?
>> > greg
>>
>> Angela's matting selection tutorial is at
>> http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/alaia/354/tutorials/matting/
>>
>> Bob Dietz
>>
>
>I like the Kris Method 2 of determining your frame/mat colours... except I
>usually reduce to 6 colours or so....
I know this may sound crazy, but I have trouble with reading long tuts
(headaches, eyes) so I can't do that one. I'll just use the Greg
method, I choose a low key complimentary color from within the piece
and use that, or just go thru my homemade mattes and hope one will
work. And barring that, I'll make a new one. The only one that has a
frame is the jpg for the web. The 3 originals don't have anything.
Nick
>
> I don't need no stinkin' process. I eyeball everything, even things
> that should be measured, like making matts and frames etc. I'm not too
> keen on large matts except for some tiny pics they work. I should
> learn the process, where is it?
> greg
>
>
>
A pulpwood cutter has a chain saw that operates at 2700 rpm. The density of
the pine trees in a plot to be harvested is 470 per acre. The plot is 2.3
acres in size. The average tree diameter is 14 inches. How many 16 oz.
Budweisers will it take to harvest the trees?
Angela M. Cable
> I know this may sound crazy, but I have trouble with reading long tuts
> (headaches, eyes) so I can't do that one. I'll just use the Greg
> method, I choose a low key complimentary color from within the piece
> and use that, or just go thru my homemade mattes and hope one will
> work. And barring that, I'll make a new one. The only one that has a
> frame is the jpg for the web. The 3 originals don't have anything.
> greg
There really isn't much too it, Greg. I went into quite a bit of detail
explaining what was going on for the very left-brained and those people
who spend half their life swearing that they "can't see that way".
Because they *can* see that way, they just have to be drawn a picture so
to speak :-)
All it amounts to is determining the two most predominant colors in the
image, the steps labeled "Method 1" and "Method 2" are designed for
people who can't just look at an image and pick them out. If you were to
do this with a real life image, you'd hold it at arm's length and allow
your eyes to defocus and/or turn the image upside down. Once you've got
those two colors in your FG/BG swatches, you take the lightness value of
the most predominant color and substitute that number for the lightness
value in the second most predominant color. You use this new color as a
mat. What this does is gives you a matting color that "matches" in hue
and intensity to the overall image without being obvious or garish.
The rest of it is just calculating dimensions and a very simple cutout
effect for depth. I figured 1/4 of the width of an image to be about
right and an extra optional 10% at the bottom for a "weighted" mat.
You'd be really surprised at how many people cannot choose an
appropriate color without some help. It surprised the hell out of me
that there are people who don't see these things intuitively and
immediately, because *I* can and always have been able to see it and
never gave it a second thought until I was asked to explain *why* I'd
choose one color over another. The original concept for the tutorial was
spawned by a discussion with several "left-brainers", Sally amongst
them. Sally's coming along nicely, BTW, in getting the right side of her
brain fired up :-) The tricks in the tutorial seem to be fairly
effective, I'd say about 90% of the images we tested could be
appropriately matted using this method.
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I know I know.
42.
Sally Beacham
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> Sally's coming along nicely, BTW, in getting the right side of her
> brain fired up :-)
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I've been using that for extra storage space, now
where am I going to put the Christmas decorations every year?
State of Entropy
kneebiter.
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> Or where is that Clydesdales cart with the 2 guys driving and the dog. g
They're in-studio posing for another *painting*
:)
Sally Beacham
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> PRECISELY RIGHT!!!!!
>
> kneebiter.
>
Have towel, will travel.
Sally
Fugitive
>
>You'd be really surprised at how many people cannot choose an
>appropriate color without some help. It surprised the hell out of me
>that there are people who don't see these things intuitively and
>immediately, because *I* can and always have been able to see it and
>never gave it a second thought until I was asked to explain *why* I'd
>choose one color over another. The original concept for the tutorial was
>spawned by a discussion with several "left-brainers", Sally amongst
>them. Sally's coming along nicely, BTW, in getting the right side of her
>brain fired up :-) The tricks in the tutorial seem to be fairly
>effective, I'd say about 90% of the images we tested could be
>appropriately matted using this method.
Tell Sally I'm sorry she has that affliction, and hope it gets better.
Who came up this stuff, Steve Hawking? The blurry upside down thing
sounds good.
Thank You
Porter
"Fugitive" <gregfar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> Who came up this stuff, Steve Hawking? The blurry upside down thing
> sounds good.
> Thank You
>
>
>
> Greg
Angela came up with it. It's her work. Based on her own experiences and
accumulations of knowledge, gained over a lifetime. --> A lifetime of being
a right-brained person "frequently forced against her will" to do
left-brained work. Lucky for all of us, she's such a good sport. :)
Porter
Sally Beacham
nah, that's those darn poker-playing dogs....
Sally
Mike
"Angela M. Cable" wrote:
>
> All it amounts to is determining the two most predominant colors in the
> image...
Here is an idea for picking a palette that has similarities to your system...
http://www.artistmike.com/article6/ChoosingAPalette.html
Angela M. Cable
> Tell Sally I'm sorry she has that affliction, and hope it gets better.
> Who came up this stuff, Steve Hawking? The blurry upside down thing
> sounds good.
> Thank You
You mean the right-brain/left-brain stuff? I originally heard about the
theory in the early '80s. My mother was a fine artist and had decided to
take on some students. She ran across a book called "Drawing on the
Right Side of the Brain" by Betty Edwards and decided to use this as an
introductory text book for her students. There were always two or three
copies of it floating around the house, and being a fine artist myself,
I read it. Betty Edwards is also a fine artist, she taught art (maybe
still does) in the California school system, she is, obviously,
right-brained. She found it puzzling that her students had such trouble
learning to draw and began studying the process. She said that in 1968
she read Nobel Prize winning research by Roger W. Sperry on human
brain-hemisphere functioning and had an epiphany. She also quotes
studies done at CalTech in the '50s and '60s on patients where the
corpus callosum (a thick nerve cable that connects the two hemispheres)
had been surgically severed to treat otherwise uncontrollable epilepsy.
She goes into a bit of detail about the studies and the types of testing
done on the patients afterwards. Really, if you're interested in this
sort of thing, just buy the book, it's available at any book store that
has an Art section, you can get it at amazon.com, or probably it's
sitting at your local library, the thing has been a staple in classrooms
and for fine artists almost since it was first published in 1979.
The upside down thing is a direct rip from her book. It's the simplest
way to for a left-brainer to really *see*. The idea is that once you've
turned an image upside down, the left brain quits interfering with right
brain functioning because you've temporarily "fooled" it into not being
able to identify what it's "looking" at and passes "control" over to the
right side. If you read the book, you'll see exactly how this works.
Angela M. Cable
>
> "Angela M. Cable" <ca...@allwest.net> wrote in message
> news:3D12F4C3...@allwest.net...
>
> > Sally's coming along nicely, BTW, in getting the right side of her
> > brain fired up :-)
>
> Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I've been using that for extra storage space, now
> where am I going to put the Christmas decorations every year?
You won't need the storage space. You'll be creating new decorations
every year and giving the old ones away :-)
Angela M. Cable
>
> "Fugitive" <gregfar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> > Who came up this stuff, Steve Hawking? The blurry upside down thing
> > sounds good.
> > Thank You
> >
> >
> >
> > Greg
>
> Angela came up with it. It's her work.
The right/left brain stuff isn't mine, I'm just pretty good at
condensing the theory into practical use :-)
> Based on her own experiences and
> accumulations of knowledge, gained over a lifetime. --> A lifetime of being
> a right-brained person "frequently forced against her will" to do
> left-brained work.
Heh, there's also the benefit though of people thinking that I'm much
smarter than I really am. That right-brain-edness lets me make intuitive
jumps that very left-brained people can't see...
Me, "What are you doing?"
Left-Brainer, "Well, I'm doing (insert needlessly complicated task)."
"Well, that's silly, why don't you just do this instead?"
Wait while left-brainer processes..."Damn, that's a good idea. Why
didn't I think of that?"
:-))
Porter
and for fine artists almost since it was first published in 1979.
>
> The upside down thing is a direct rip from her book. It's the simplest
> way to for a left-brainer to really *see*. The idea is that once you've
> turned an image upside down, the left brain quits interfering with right
> brain functioning because you've temporarily "fooled" it into not being
> able to identify what it's "looking" at and passes "control" over to the
> right side. If you read the book, you'll see exactly how this works.
Along a similar vein: In clinical hypnosis when resistant subjects do want
to cooperate, but have some real difficulty getting out of their own way?
Start them counting down backwards from 10K by 3s, "or" they can simply
choose to just "let go" at any time into a more deeply-relaxed suggestive
state. Backwards counting is such an annoyingly tiresome chore, their
subconscious usually just says "screw this" and opts for that right brain
alternative, that's so darned much easier. :) Funny how many things in
life, seem to revolve around all of us getting out of our own ways.
Porter
Joe Cilinceon
this week. I have the new edition that just came out. Got it from
amazon.com. I'll let you know what I think when I'm done.
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"Angela M. Cable" <ca...@allwest.net> wrote in message
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Fugitive
I was just teasing, you know who Hawking is, the Einstein of the
present. I read the book a long time ago, and use the theory to make
excuses for my bumbling in certain areas. I get lost inside buildings,
or malls, or going to a job interview. Can't make a stupid simple web
site, yet. Though I have to get that one done.
RonOfTn
"Angela M. Cable" <ca...@allwest.net> wrote in message
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snip
> The upside down thing is a direct rip from her book. It's the simplest
> way to for a left-brainer to really *see*. The idea is that once you've
> turned an image upside down, the left brain quits interfering with right
> brain functioning because you've temporarily "fooled" it into not being
> able to identify what it's "looking" at and passes "control" over to the
> right side. If you read the book, you'll see exactly how this works.
>
Guess I'm left brained . . . when I got the part of your tutorial about
making cutouts and loaded the selection from Alpah Channel the selection
could not be moved. Everything else worked just as you described.
I did a work around by selecting the matt, inverting the selection and then
applying the cutots.
Everyone in the family thought the pics looked great and I gave you the
credit.
Thanks, Ron
Sally Beacham
> Porter wrote:
> >
> > "Fugitive" <gregfar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >
> > > Who came up this stuff, Steve Hawking? The blurry upside down thing
> > > sounds good.
> > > Thank You
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Greg
> >
> > Angela came up with it. It's her work.
>
> The right/left brain stuff isn't mine, I'm just pretty good at
> condensing the theory into practical use :-)
>
> > Based on her own experiences and
> > accumulations of knowledge, gained over a lifetime. --> A lifetime of
being
> > a right-brained person "frequently forced against her will" to do
> > left-brained work.
>
> Heh, there's also the benefit though of people thinking that I'm much
> smarter than I really am. That right-brain-edness lets me make intuitive
> jumps that very left-brained people can't see...
>
> Me, "What are you doing?"
> Left-Brainer, "Well, I'm doing (insert needlessly complicated task)."
> "Well, that's silly, why don't you just do this instead?"
> Wait while left-brainer processes..."Damn, that's a good idea. Why
> didn't I think of that?"
>
I really don't think I'm left-brained, I think I was middle-brained with a
closet right-leaning tendency.
Angela M. Cable
>
> Now there is a coincidence as I just got her book and started reading it
> this week. I have the new edition that just came out. Got it from
> amazon.com. I'll let you know what I think when I'm done.
I think the only difference in the old and new edition is that she's
added more current scientific data to support her theory. I've actually
got both, wasn't too inclined to do a page by page comparison to see
what's changed :-) Make sure you do the exercises in the order they're
presented in the book, even an accomplished artist can gain new insight
and build new techniques following her method.
Angela M. Cable
> I was just teasing, you know who Hawking is, the Einstein of the
> present.
Yes, I do know who Hawking is. He has a website too :-)
> I read the book a long time ago, and use the theory to make
> excuses for my bumbling in certain areas. I get lost inside buildings,
> or malls, or going to a job interview.
Heh, I don't think that was the purpose of the book :-) I believe that
I'm predominantly right-brained, whether that's a matter of genetics or
environment, I can't say. Probably, it's not too surprising since my
mother was *extremely* right-brained. Unlike her though, I can manage to
get my checkbook balanced without outside help :-)
> Can't make a stupid simple web
> site, yet. Though I have to get that one done.
I find site design to be very right-brained for me. I had trouble
initially, before I'd learned all the markup tags. Now, though that I
know them without really having to think about them, I quite often find
myself in that very right-brained time loss state while writing code. It
seems to me that learning what all the tags and elements do is a lot
like learning what effect different paint brushes will have when applied
to canvas.
Angela M. Cable
> Guess I'm left brained . . . when I got the part of your tutorial about
> making cutouts and loaded the selection from Alpah Channel the selection
> could not be moved. Everything else worked just as you described.
You shouldn't need to move it if you made the selection *before* adding
the borders. It should pop right in there where it's supposed to be. If
you do need to move it for some reason, you need to click on the Mover
tool (looks like four arrows), then right-click-drag to move the
selection about.
>
> I did a work around by selecting the matt, inverting the selection and then
> applying the cutots.
That'll work too. You'd have trouble with this though if the mat were a
similar color to something in the image that was touching the mat and
the tolerance setting on the selection tool were something other than
"0".
>
> Everyone in the family thought the pics looked great and I gave you the
> credit.
Glad you liked the effect :-)
Fugitive
<ca...@allwest.net> wrote:
>--
>Angela M. Cable
>http://www.neocognition.com
>
>PSP Tutorial Links:
>http://www.psplinks.com
>5th Street Studio, free graphics, websets and more:
>http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/alaia/354/
Sounds good, If I can get over a hurdle or two, maybe
I'tll work.
lensman3
but, why did you work in the nude??
Fugitive
wrote:
>In small size, this really trompe'd le oeille, for me at least.
>
>but, why did you work in the nude??
don't know if you use bad French or what, as the dictionary
couldn't translate, where's Kris when I need him?
Jackie Laderoute
<gregfar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 01:57:58 GMT, lens...@attbi.com (lensman3)
>wrote:
>
>>In small size, this really trompe'd le oeille, for me at least.
>>
>>but, why did you work in the nude??
>
>
>don't know if you use bad French or what, as the dictionary
>couldn't translate, where's Kris when I need him?
On vacation, lucky sod.
But it should be "trompe l'oeil" - which, translated, means "fool the
eye".
Here's one of my favourite trompe l'oeil sites:
http://users.senet.com.au/~rfrancis/.
Jackie
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Fugitive
<jflad...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 02:28:57 GMT, Fugitive
><gregfar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 01:57:58 GMT, lens...@attbi.com (lensman3)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In small size, this really trompe'd le oeille, for me at least.
>>>
>>>but, why did you work in the nude??
>>
>>
>>don't know if you use bad French or what, as the dictionary
>>couldn't translate, where's Kris when I need him?
>
>On vacation, lucky sod.
>
>But it should be "trompe l'oeil" - which, translated, means "fool the
>eye".
>
>Here's one of my favourite trompe l'oeil sites:
>http://users.senet.com.au/~rfrancis/.
>
>Jackie
Ignorance is bliss, huh? I've been doing this stuff and didn't know it
had a cool French name. I guess my fake gallery pics would qualify.
Thanks so much for this new insite site.
greg