Backgrounds -- please HELP!
John Maher
I've had Paint Shop Pro 7 for about 6 months, and have just now gotten
around to trying some image manipulation. I took one photo and
painstakingly deleted background from around my subjects. I then inserted
that image as a layer over another background. I cannot, however, get the
background of the upper layer (the one with my subjects) to appear
transparent. It shows as solid yellow, no matter what I try.
Can anyone help with this?
I knew I should have gotten Photoshop Elements. There are about a zillion
books out there for that.
Thanks.
John
Kris Zaklika
>
> First off, I'm quite the novice when it comes to digital.
>
> I've had Paint Shop Pro 7 for about 6 months, and have just now gotten
> around to trying some image manipulation. I took one photo and
> painstakingly deleted background from around my subjects.
How did you do this? Eraser tool? Selection tools? How
did the background appear at this point? Solid color or
a transparency checkerboard? I'm guessing you saw solid
yellow.
> I then inserted
> that image as a layer over another background. I cannot, however, get the
> background of the upper layer (the one with my subjects) to appear
> transparent. It shows as solid yellow, no matter what I try.
>
> Can anyone help with this?
Yes, of course. PSP has two kinds of layer. There are
regular layers that can have transparency and a background
layer that can not. There can be only one background layer
in an image but up to 99 regular layers. When you open an
image file in a format that doesn't support transparency
(for instance, a JPEG file) the image opens as a background
layer. To convert this to something that can be made
transparent you must promote the background to regular
layer. You do this with Layers > Promote to Layer. If you
do this before you remove the background, the removal process
will lead to transparency, which will show through as the
checkerboard. Now, when you paste this layer over another
layer (background or not) the underlying layer will be
visible through the transparent regions of the upper layer.
That makes it sound like you have to start over, but don't
worry - it's not necessary. There is a way around your problem.
Try these steps:
1. Take the image with the erased but yellow background and
do Layers > Promote to Layer.
2. Select the Magic Wand tool. Make sure the Match Mode is
set to RGB Value and the Tolerance is set to zero. (You
do this in the Tool Options Palette, which you can toggle
on and off by pressing the letter O on the keyboard).
Click once on the yellow area.
3. The yellow will now be surrounded by a selection marquee.
If all of the yellow hasn't been selected, do Selections >
Modify > Select Similar. Now all the unwanted yellow
stuff should be selected.
4. Press the delete key and - voila - transparency.
5. This is for extra credit. Take a look at the edge of the
transparent region. If it doesn't look nice and soft, try
this. Press Undo or Ctrl-Z to undo step 4. Now do Selections >
Modify > Expand. Type in a value of 2 pixels. Now do
Selections > Modify > Feather again using a value of 2
pixels. Again press Delete. The edges should be softer and
more natural.
> I knew I should have gotten Photoshop Elements. There are about a zillion
> books out there for that.
Don't forget that Jasc has free technical support. Can the
big guy say the same? :)
There are quite a few books about PSP if you look. Click
this link http://tinyurl.com/54hp and type Paint Shop Pro
in the box next to the Go button to see the books. You may
also want to visit the VFAQ:
http://campratty.com/questions.html
and this list of introductory tutorials:
http://campratty.com/Resources/linda/sort1.html
> Thanks.
>
> John
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Uni
An excellent application it is. Many people in the scanner newsgroups
use it and recommend it.
Yes, you'll find tons of books on Photoshop Elements and very few books
on PSP, especially pertaining to photography.
Uni
>
> Thanks.
>
> John
Uni
p.s. I forgot to mention, there's been (2) versions of Photoshop
Elements, and after about 3+ years, Paint Shop Pro 7 is still stuck on
the same version.
My guess is, there will be no further upgrades of PSP.
Uni
>
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > John
Triumph The Insult Comic Dog
> books out there for that
Typical statement from someone that
hasn't a clue what they're doing.
You'll fit right in here.
-woof.
"John Maher" <LMR...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Uni
>
> > I knew I should have gotten Photoshop Elements. There are about a zillion
> > books out there for that
>
> Typical statement from someone that
> hasn't a clue what they're doing.
His statements is true, dog wonder. Looks like you'll be the only one
left to populate those (4) PSP binary groups.
>
> You'll fit right in here.
Along with you, since you can't learn it on your own and need to have
someone's hand to hold all the time.
Uni
Triumph The Insult Comic Dog
> Elements, and after about 3+ years, Paint Shop Pro 7 is still stuck on
> the same version.
Are you just bad at math?
9/21/2000 makes it 2.36 years old, not "3+ years", dumbass.
-woof.
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Triumph The Insult Comic Dog
> someone's hand to hold all the time.
Please, point out one instance
where I've needed my hand held?
-woof.
"Uni" <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in message
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Uni
>
> > Elements, and after about 3+ years, Paint Shop Pro 7 is still stuck on
> > the same version.
>
> Are you just bad at math?
>
> 9/21/2000 makes it 2.36 years old, not "3+ years", dumbass.
I got version 7 when Windows 95 was popular. And since there's been (4)
new Windows operating systems since then, it's ages old.
Uni
p.s. You take today off, too?
Uni
>
> > Along with you, since you can't learn it on your own and need to have
> > someone's hand to hold all the time.
>
> Please, point out one instance
> where I've needed my hand held?
You thrive upon what people tell you, since you find it difficult to
learn on your own. About once a year, you share something with the
newsgroup, which you're just repeating what someone else here told you.
Uni
Triumph The Insult Comic Dog
My ESD is dated 9/21/2000...
their own press release backs that up.
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New Version of Popular Graphics Software Now Available
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-woof.
"Uni" <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in message
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Triumph The Insult Comic Dog
where i asked HOW to do something.
-woof.
"Uni" <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in message
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Uni
>
If you expect millions of photographer to wait about (3) years for a new
release, it won't happen. Technology changes faster then you can keep
track of it. People don't want to use the same old software year after
years, when there's much more exciting new software hitting the market.
I'm still waiting patiently for PSP-7 to register itself with Windows
ME's Camera and Scanner support option. That's a sign just how old it
is. since Photoshop Elements does.
Uni
Uni
>
> again, please provide ONE example
> where i asked HOW to do something.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/42670345/48473025VCVgrj
Triumph The Insult Comic Dog
There are many of issues that need resolution.
There are a LOT of areas that need improvement.
But you, someone that constantly praises other software,
are the only one making such a big deal about it.
If PSP is so bad, move the hell on to the gimp
or elements already and stay there...
You won't be missed.
WHY do you stay here?
PLEASE explain..
-woof.
"Uni" <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in message
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Triumph The Insult Comic Dog
No, it was a technical question..
and didn't we already rehash that one last week?
-woof.
"Uni" <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in message
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Mike
Comic Dog at tt...@hotmail.com wrote on 1/30/03 5:18 PM:
> I'm just as impatient waiting for PSP8 as the next guy...
> There are a LOT of areas that need improvement.
That is a great commentary on the state of the software.
"Chuckle ® " is a registered trademark of ArtistMike.com
":^) ®
--
Mike
€ Logo Design €
Put some fun in your next logo!
Site at: http://www.artistmike.com
Uni
>
> I'm just as impatient waiting for PSP8 as the next guy...
But you're not a photographer. You probably just use Picture Tubes to
create your web graphic stuff.
> There are many of issues that need resolution.
> There are a LOT of areas that need improvement.
>
> But you, someone that constantly praises other software,
> are the only one making such a big deal about it.
No, the other person said they should have purchased Photoshop Elements
instead of Paint Shop Pro. Take a walk on the wild side and visit one of
the many scanner newsgroups and see what they recommend for a
photography application. It sure isn't PSP. Notice Mr. Fulton no longer
visits here?
>
> If PSP is so bad, move the hell on to the gimp
> or elements already and stay there...
> You won't be missed.
You're always the one comparing PSP to The Gimp and other applications.
I just like following behind you, setting the record straight.
>
> WHY do you stay here?
> PLEASE explain..
See above.
Uni
Mike
wrote on 1/30/03 5:26 PM:
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/42670345/48473025VCVgrj
In the case of the "pup" he needs to be lead by his leash ...
Uni
>
> No, it was a technical question..
Was more like an entry level question.
Uni
Triumph The Insult Comic Dog
And what the FUCK does that have to do with ANYTHING I said?
>You probably just use Picture Tubes to
> create your web graphic stuff.
I told you last week, I've never used tubes.
> No, the other person said they should have purchased Photoshop Elements
> instead of Paint Shop Pro. Take a walk on the wild side and visit one of
> the many scanner newsgroups and see what they recommend for a
> photography application. It sure isn't PSP. Notice Mr. Fulton no longer
> visits here?
Why? I do one scan a month, and it comes out perfectly,
without any need for enhancements.
One of the many upsides of actually having a clue what you're doing.
And... who the hell is Mr. Fulton, and why should I give a shit if he comes
here?
-woof.
"Uni" <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in message
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Triumph The Insult Comic Dog
what level does that put you on?
-woof.
"Uni" <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in message
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Uni
>
> in article 3E39D0DB...@no.email.org, Uni at no.e...@no.email.org
> wrote on 1/30/03 5:26 PM:
>
> > http://community.webshots.com/photo/42670345/48473025VCVgrj
>
> In the case of the "pup" he needs to be lead by his leash ...
:-)
Funny how The Pup is always claiming he's making a fortune what graphic
work he does, but yet, he spends day after day attacking people in a
"Paint" related newsgroup. My guess, when he goes to the bank to cash
his small fortune, he carries it out in a pill bottle.
:-)
Uni
Triumph The Insult Comic Dog
> work he does, but yet, he spends day after day attacking people in a
> "Paint" related newsgroup.
More jealousy from the twit.
-woof.
"Uni" <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in message
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> Mike wrote:
> >
> > in article 3E39D0DB...@no.email.org, Uni at no.e...@no.email.org
> > wrote on 1/30/03 5:26 PM:
> >
> > > http://community.webshots.com/photo/42670345/48473025VCVgrj
> >
> > In the case of the "pup" he needs to be lead by his leash ...
>
> :-)
>
> Funny how The Pup is always claiming he's making a fortune what graphic
> work he does, but yet, he spends day after day attacking people in a
> "Paint" related newsgroup. My guess, when he goes to the bank to cash
> his small fortune, he carries it out in a pill bottle.
>
> :-)
>
> Uni
>
> >
> > ":^) ®
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mike
> >
> > ? Logo Design ?
Uni
>
> > work he does, but yet, he spends day after day attacking people in a
> > "Paint" related newsgroup.
>
> More jealousy from the twit.
Boy, you're throwing around a lot of nasty four letter words my way.
Sorry I hit upon some delicate issue with you.
:-)
Uni
Triumph The Insult Comic Dog
so I gotta spice it up.
-woof.
"Uni" <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in message
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Uni
>
> Losing interest in talking to you...
> so I gotta spice it up.
Once you mature, you'll soon discover, nasty words make you look like a
child, rather than a man.
Mike
Comic Dog at tt...@hotmail.com wrote on 1/30/03 5:37 PM:
> And... who the hell is Mr. Fulton, and why should I give a shit if he comes
> here?
"Chuckle ® " is a registered trademark of ArtistMike.com
You really are clueless.
":^) ®
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€ Logo Design €
Mike
Comic Dog at tt...@hotmail.com wrote on 1/30/03 5:37 PM:
> And... who the hell is Mr. Fulton, and why should I give a shit if he comes
> here?
You are so funny.
Triumph The Insult Comic Dog
-woof.
"Mike" <mi...@artistmike.com> wrote in message
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> in article Srk_9.561913$y74.3...@news.easynews.com, Triumph The Insult
> Comic Dog at tt...@hotmail.com wrote on 1/30/03 5:37 PM:
>
>
> > And... who the hell is Mr. Fulton, and why should I give a shit if he
comes
> > here?
>
>
> You are so funny.
>
> ":^) ®
>
>
> --
> Mike
>
> ? Logo Design ?
Triumph The Insult Comic Dog
Ironic.
-woof.
"Uni" <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in message
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Uni
>
> Maturity advice from a romper room reject.
Occasionally, you do come up with something comical, which makes me
laugh :-)
Uni
Uni
>
>
> And... who the hell is Mr. Fulton, and why should I give a shit if he comes
> here?
Look on Z' Man's site and you'll find his name. Actually, he's the one
that set me straight about how file associations are screwed up in PSP,
while in a scanner newgroup. It is obvious, Photoshop doesn't have this
problem.
Uni
Triumph The Insult Comic Dog
You mean like how when you install Photoshop 7,
Image Ready steals PSP's .WSP file extension
for it's own workspace files?
-woof.
"Uni" <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in message
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Shadowfax
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> I told you the day it was released.
> My ESD is dated 9/21/2000...
> their own press release backs that up.
> "Uni" <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in message
> news:3E39CBEB...@no.email.org...
>> Triumph The Insult Comic Dog wrote:
>> >
>> > > p.s. I forgot to mention, there's been (2) versions of
>> > > Photoshop Elements, and after about 3+ years, Paint Shop Pro
>> > > 7 is still stuck on the same version.
>> >
>> > Are you just bad at math?
>> >
>> > 9/21/2000 makes it 2.36 years old, not "3+ years", dumbass.
>>
>> I got version 7 when Windows 95 was popular. And since there's
>> been (4) new Windows operating systems since then, it's ages old.
>>
>> Uni
Don't forget Triumph, Uni's still using the cutting edge Windows ME, so
God only knows how long he stuck with Windows 95.
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Shadowfax
news:BA5F10CD.2F824%mi...@artistmike.com:
> in article Q9k_9.2217211$%W4.3...@news.easynews.com, Triumph The
> Insult Comic Dog at tt...@hotmail.com wrote on 1/30/03 5:18 PM:
>
>> I'm just as impatient waiting for PSP8 as the next guy...
>> There are a LOT of areas that need improvement.
>
> That is a great commentary on the state of the software.
>
> "Chuckle ® " is a registered trademark of ArtistMike.com
>
> ":^) ®
And this said about Painter (and agreed to by everyone that replied in
the Painter group), your application of choice, and I quote...
Subject: World's Most Unstable Program
From: humid...@yahoo.com.au (humidsign)
Newsgroups: alt.fractal-design.painter
I can hardly express how angry and disgusted I feel with Corel. The
bugs and crappy features in Painter 7 are in a totally different
category to the annoying bugs and defects in every other piece of
software that I have ever used. I am convinced that only a company
that has an unbelievable degree of contempt and disrespect for their
customers could possibly release a program onto the market in this
condition. What is wrong with these people? Do they not care at all
about their reputation? The frequency with which this program crashes
is beyond all reason. And don't think that saving your file is any
kind of precaution, when Painter crashes there is a very high
probability that it will destroy your file in the process. And any
time you open Painter there is a probability that it will crash more
than once. Not only that but it has a most spectacular method of
crashing by completely vanishing from the screen.
While of course it is possible to try to find complex and elaborate
workarounds and to use save as every 15 minutes. But I gather there
is a consensus amongst the people who use Painter that it is still
going to crash very frequently. How many times more frequently will
Painter crash than most programs? Maybe twenty or thirty times.
Painter also seems to have problems with such simple things as opening
documents. Everytime I open a document the bottom edge of the
document window is too far below the bottom of my screen to be able to
reach it with my cursor. Should I maximise the window it maximises to
leave the bottom border of the window half an inch above the bottom of
my screen.
The layers and masks in Painter 7 are so defective as to be a joke.
The watercolour brushes in Painter 7 seem to be like a feature that
has only been halfway developed. They fail to live up to even the
most minimal standard that could possibly claim to be realistically
simulating watercolour. The most characteristic feature of
watercolour is that the brush strokes merge into each other, this is
why it is possible to create even washes and gradations in
watercolour. In Painter 7 's watercolour brushes the brush strokes
will always have clearly defined edges no matter how hard one tries.
Learning to get something useful out of these brushes would be maybe
twenty times more difficult than learning how to use watercolour from
scratch. I suspect that to be willing to devote enough time to using
these brushes to get some interesting result one might have some other
motive than purely artistic such as profiting in some way from some
sort of relationship with the Corel Company.
I think it would be very appropriate one day although unlikely to
happen, but one can hope that several hundred users of Painter will
perhaps make a sufficient amount of noise and make a sufficient
nuisance of themselves as to cause Corel a significant amount of
discomfort. They deserve it. It is awful that they should be able to
get away with this kind of behaviour and that there is nothing anyone
can do.
Not everyone is a graphic designer with thousands of dollars a year to
spend on software, there are actually artists who may decide to play
around with this software who are not particularly rich.
Yours sincerely, humidesign.
Now, I happen to like Painter, but it's not perfect by any means, nor
is ANY software, PSP included. But, you know that already, whether you
admit to it or not.
Shadowfax
news:3E39C9DD...@no.email.org:
> His statements is true........
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Uni
>
> Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in
> news:3E39C9DD...@no.email.org:
>
> > His statements is true........
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh, hi, Blaze :-)
Uni
Uni
>
> > that set me straight about how file associations are screwed up in PSP,
>
> You mean like how when you install Photoshop 7,
> Image Ready steals PSP's .WSP file extension
> for it's own workspace files?
Why not? Nobody uses them in PSP. Sort of worthless, if you ask me.
Uni
Uni
>
> Shadowfax wrote:
> >
> > Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in
> > news:3E39C9DD...@no.email.org:
> >
> > > His statements is true........
> >
> > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>
> Oh, hi, Blaze :-)
You must remember, Scott, Blaze doesn't have me kill filed, but you do.
You apparently keep forgetting, with your multiple identities.
:-)
Uni
Mike
shadow...@hotSPAMmail.com wrote on 1/30/03 8:38 PM:
> Mike <mi...@artistmike.com> wrote in
> news:BA5F10CD.2F824%mi...@artistmike.com:
>
>> in article Q9k_9.2217211$%W4.3...@news.easynews.com, Triumph The
>> Insult Comic Dog at tt...@hotmail.com wrote on 1/30/03 5:18 PM:
>>
>>> I'm just as impatient waiting for PSP8 as the next guy...
>>> There are a LOT of areas that need improvement.
>>
>> That is a great commentary on the state of the software.
>>
>> "Chuckle ® " is a registered trademark of ArtistMike.com
>>
>> ":^) ®
>
>
> And this said about Painter (and agreed to by everyone that replied in
> the Painter group), your application of choice, and I quote...
>
>
>
> Subject: World's Most Unstable Program
> From: humid...@yahoo.com.au (humidsign)
> Newsgroups: alt.fractal-design.painter
>
> I can hardly express how angry and disgusted I feel with Corel. The
> bugs and crappy features in Painter 7 are in a totally different
> category to the annoying bugs and defects in every other piece of
> software that I have ever used.
I don't use Painter 7. Was never impressed with the program after it was
taken over by the new company.
I also don't recommend the program for people that are running a IBM
compatable machine of any type.
The program wants to be on a Mac.
Shadowfax
news:3E3A0D59...@no.email.org:
Naw..I took everyone out of my KF, even that chronic pest, your mentor
Mike C. I don't know why you think I post as Blaze, I've only changed
my identity once in all the years I've used Usenet and it was years
ago. No matter to me, believe whatever you wish.
Uni
>
> Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in
> news:3E3A0D59...@no.email.org:
>
> > Uni wrote:
> >>
> >> Shadowfax wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in
> >> > news:3E39C9DD...@no.email.org:
> >> >
> >> > > His statements is true........
> >> >
> >> > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> >>
> >> Oh, hi, Blaze :-)
> >
> > You must remember, Scott, Blaze doesn't have me kill filed, but
> > you do. You apparently keep forgetting, with your multiple
> > identities.
> >
> >:-)
> >
> > Uni
> >
> >>
> >> Uni
> >>
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Scott
> >> >
> >> > **Remove the NO and SPAM from my e-mail address to reply**
> >
>
> Naw..I took everyone out of my KF, even that chronic pest, your mentor
> Mike C. I don't know why you think I post as Blaze, I've only changed
> my identity once in all the years I've used Usenet and it was years
> ago. No matter to me, believe whatever you wish.
I will, thank you. And get this, Scott, I don't even need your
permission.