Watercolor samples done in PSP...
Blaze1
after you learn the technique.
Tutorial coming soon.
See: alt.binaries.paint-shop-pro for the samples.
Blaze1
I am not a PSP expert and it is likely there are better ways to accomplish
what I have done. Feel free to share with others if you know of better ways
or shortcuts.
If anyone wants to build a real tutorial (with screen shots) for their web
site, please do so.
Prerequisites:
Download or otherwise obtain some surface texture graphic. In my post in the
binary group I will attach a couple of textures you can use. You can also
create your own texture very easily using PSP. I learned the technique from
a tutorial somewhere that I dont recall. I'll post the steps if anyone
wants.
Step 1: Find a nice picture you wish to turn into a peice of art. It's best
if it's a fair size picture. Colorful pictures seem to turn out better. Open
it in PSP and select Window> Duplicate. Close the original.
Step 2: Activate your picture and select Layer>Duplicate. Rename the new
layer "Detail". Change the Layer blend mode to Darken. Turn off the layer
visibility for both layers for now.
Step 3: Create a new raster layer named "Surface" and place it in between
your "backround" layer and your "detail" layer. Set the blend mode to
Multiply. Leave this layer active.
Step 4: Open a file containing the surface texture you wish to use. CTRL-A
to select the entire picture, CTRL-C to copy it to the clip board. Now go
back to your art work picture.
Step 5: You should have the "Surface" layer active. Paste as a new
selection and place the texture in the upper left corner. You can go
slightly out of the boundry if you wish. The goal here is to continue to
paste new selections and cover the entire layer by tiling the pasted
selections. Make sure you dont leave any space. WHen done press CTRL-D to
release any selection.
Step 6: Activate the "Background" layer and make it visible. At this stage
your picture should look like it now has the texture of your "Surface"
layer. If the texture is too fine, you can always change the texture to a
larger texture (or vice versa). Now to make the painting...
Step 7: With your background layer active, select Effects>Artistic
Effect>Brush Strokes. Select the Water Color preset. Tweak however you want.
Other presets make good looking results as well. Apply. Your picture should
now look like a watercolor painting on the surface you chose!
Step 8: For some it may look good enough as-is. IF you want more detail do
the following. Make your Detail Level visible. The picture should look
pretty good now! You can adjust the Detail layer blend mode to get more/less
detail.
I think I have all the steps correct. Let me know if you need more
explaination.
Uni
Your images, while cute, don't impress me.
They look like you write, that is, poorly, with little to no pride.
If you require further explanation, just yell :-)
Uni
p.s. No, it's not a photo. It's just something I created with Freeware.
Time for you to play catch-up, Blaze :)
http://community.webshots.com/photo/57602045/61696167GYTBHr
Triumph The Insult Comic Dog
If that's "lifelike", you obviously haven't been outside much.
-woof.
"Uni" <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in message
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Uni
>
> > http://community.webshots.com/photo/57602045/61696167GYTBHr
>
> If that's "lifelike", you obviously haven't been outside much.
At least my life isn't at the bottom of a beer bottle.
:-)
Uni
Triumph The Insult Comic Dog
Unless I'm at a party, I rarely drink
anything other than coffee.
Thanks for playing.
-woof.
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Uni
>
> > At least my life isn't at the bottom of a beer bottle.
>
> Unless I'm at a party, I rarely drink
> anything other than coffee.
You, a youngin, a coffee drinker?
I find that difficult to believe. But after people tell me Jasc doesn't
really compose all the software they sell, anything is possible.
:-)
Uni
Triumph The Insult Comic Dog
I'm 29.. hardly a "youngin", and
yes, a heavy coffee drinker.
-woof.
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Uni
>
> > You, a youngin, a coffee drinker?
>
> I'm 29.. hardly a "youngin", and
> yes, a heavy coffee drinker.
You must not get much work done, if you're continually drinking coffee
all day.
At least I know now, why you don't have any time to do some PSP
graphics.
Triumph The Insult Comic Dog
> graphics.
I'm too busy with paid work to be farting around
trying to prove anything to some useless troll.
-woof.
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Uni
>
> > At least I know now, why you don't have any time to do some PSP
> > graphics.
>
Pull my finger, Pup.
:-)
Uni
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> PSP7 Essentials is now shipping!
Uni snores to the spam advertisement.
Uni
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-woof.
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Uni
>
I see what you mean.
<barf>
:-)
Uni
Blaze1
> Your images, while cute, don't impress me.
> They look like you write, that is, poorly, with little to no pride.
> If you require further explanation, just yell :-)
Thanks for sharing!
> p.s. No, it's not a photo. It's just something I created with Freeware.
> Time for you to play catch-up, Blaze :)
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/57602045/61696167GYTBHr
ps. I know it's not a photo and I know what you used. I posted a reply to
you binary post back on 1/20. Maybe you missed it. Again, thanks for
sharing!
Uni
>
> "Uni" <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in message
> news:3E329DA7...@no.email.org...
> > Your images, while cute, don't impress me.
> > They look like you write, that is, poorly, with little to no pride.
> > If you require further explanation, just yell :-)
>
> Thanks for sharing!
>
> > p.s. No, it's not a photo. It's just something I created with Freeware.
> > Time for you to play catch-up, Blaze :)
> > http://community.webshots.com/photo/57602045/61696167GYTBHr
>
> ps. I know it's not a photo and I know what you used.
It's amazing what you can obtain from beautiful people that develops
fantastic, free software, isn't it? I see
Ron V. is simply amazed at what Ifran's Irfanview can do.
Uni
Uni
BTW If you're so concerned, I admitted to Joanne, in the comp-graphics
newsgroup, that I had to tweak these images with Paint Shop Pro, so
they'd be on topic in a PSP binary newsgroup. I could have done it just
as well with The Gimp, but that would be unfair.
Uni
Uni
And one last thing, Blaze. When I hear someone claim they purchased PSP,
as well as several other Jasc software products, it makes me wonder if
this person isn't employed there. Personally, I don't know a single
other person that has purchased Jasc software. At one time, Jasc
employees used to participate here, but no longer do. So, where did they
all go?
Uni
>
> Uni
Blaze1
> It's amazing what you can obtain from beautiful people that develops
> fantastic, free software, isn't it?
Yes, free software is a good thing. But commercial software that is useful
and worth the price to an individual is also a good thing.
Uni
I agree, as long as this commercial software company isn't corrupt.
Then, I could care less how great their software is.
Uni
Blaze1
> as well as several other Jasc software products, it makes me wonder if
> this person isn't employed there. Personally, I don't know a single
Heheh. I have 3 Jasc products. If I worked at JASC I would own all their
products for free :) even if I didn't use them all.
> other person that has purchased Jasc software. At one time, Jasc
> employees used to participate here, but no longer do. So, where did they
> all go?
I don't know.
Uni
I believe I do. In usenet land, it is very easy to use an alias.
Uni
p.s. Unfortunately, I don't know of a single company that gives their
employees unlimited free products.
Uni
And furthermore, when I see someone bring my name up in the PSP binary
group, crying how bad I am, it's not the goal of this person to maintain
peace there, but yet, just another attack. Others, like Laderoute,
Lacey, Farr, Vick and Schnakenberg, have tried their damnedest to get a
rise out of me there, but I just smile and applaud their effort.
Uni
Jackie Laderoute
>Uni wrote:
>And furthermore, when I see someone bring my name up in the PSP binary
>group, crying how bad I am, it's not the goal of this person to maintain
>peace there, but yet, just another attack. Others, like Laderoute,
>Lacey, Farr, Vick and Schnakenberg, have tried their damnedest to get a
>rise out of me there, but I just smile and applaud their effort.
A lie. I have never posted to that group beyond setting followups to
Joske's posts.
All this lying, yet you cry "Foul" when people suspect you of being a
thief. Poor baby.
Jackie
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Uni
>
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:05:32 -0500, Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote:
>
> >Uni wrote:
>
> >And furthermore, when I see someone bring my name up in the PSP binary
> >group, crying how bad I am, it's not the goal of this person to maintain
> >peace there, but yet, just another attack. Others, like Laderoute,
> >Lacey, Farr, Vick and Schnakenberg, have tried their damnedest to get a
> >rise out of me there, but I just smile and applaud their effort.
>
> A lie. I have never posted to that group beyond setting followups to
> Joske's posts.
Luckily, for you, big girl, there's no archiving in a binary group.
But thank you for trying.
Uni
Jackie Laderoute
Consider your track record, little man. I'm sure people find you as
honest in this post as in any other.
But ask Joske - I'm sure she can confirm my lack of participation in
your troll fantasies. I have read the group two or three times - once
out of curiosity, and twice because of references to ongoing threads
there. I have never posted there beyond setting followups to Joske's
threads here.
Sorry to flaunt the truth in your face - but just do as you usually
do. Lie some more.
Uni
>
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:26:09 -0500, Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote:
>
> >Jackie Laderoute wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:05:32 -0500, Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Uni wrote:
> >>
> >> >And furthermore, when I see someone bring my name up in the PSP binary
> >> >group, crying how bad I am, it's not the goal of this person to maintain
> >> >peace there, but yet, just another attack. Others, like Laderoute,
> >> >Lacey, Farr, Vick and Schnakenberg, have tried their damnedest to get a
> >> >rise out of me there, but I just smile and applaud their effort.
> >>
> >> A lie. I have never posted to that group beyond setting followups to
> >> Joske's posts.
> >
> >Luckily, for you, big girl, there's no archiving in a binary group.
> >
> >But thank you for trying.
>
> Consider your track record, little man. I'm sure people find you as
> honest in this post as in any other.
>
> But ask Joske - I'm sure she can confirm my lack of participation in
> your troll fantasies. I have read the group two or three times - once
> out of curiosity, and twice because of references to ongoing threads
> there. I have never posted there beyond setting followups to Joske's
> threads here.
>
> Sorry to flaunt the truth in your face - but just do as you usually
> do. Lie some more.
Well, big girl, it seems the people here can't learn how to use kill
filters, as you suggest they do. But you set a very poor example
yourself. So, if there's anyone to blame for "ruining" this newsgroup, I
point my finger at you.
Maybe that's why your attempt to attack me in the comp-graphics
newsgroup, failed, like all your others.
Uni
Jackie Laderoute
>Well, big girl, it seems the people here can't learn how to use kill
>filters, as you suggest they do. But you set a very poor example
>yourself. So, if there's anyone to blame for "ruining" this newsgroup, I
>point my finger at you.
I suggest that if they find certain individuals distasteful,
disturbing or hurtful, that they consider using killfiles. I have also
explained - on numerous occasions - why I choose not to use them.
I am not here to set an example for anyone. I post as I choose - ask
Mike to explain free speech to you again. And you can blame me as much
as you want - given that the majority of sensible posters have sussed
you for what you are, it can only be to my credit.
>Maybe that's why your attempt to attack me in the comp-graphics
>newsgroup, failed, like all your others.
It didn't fail, because it wasn't an attack. I don't consider fair
warning an attack - you are a poisonous cretin, and people deserve to
know what they are getting into should they choose to engage you.
As for me, I just love the fact that you can't resist responding to
me. What a little puppet you are - predictable in the extreme. And
it's all good - every time you open your mouth, you prove yourself to
the unsuspecting. Perhaps one day you will realize that you are your
own worst enemy (and not a very good troll, either) - you tip your
hand far too readily.
Keep it up - you are your own best warning.
Uni
>
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:39:15 -0500, Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote:
>
> >Well, big girl, it seems the people here can't learn how to use kill
> >filters, as you suggest they do. But you set a very poor example
> >yourself. So, if there's anyone to blame for "ruining" this newsgroup, I
> >point my finger at you.
>
> I suggest that if they find certain individuals distasteful,
> disturbing or hurtful, that they consider using killfiles. I have also
> explained - on numerous occasions - why I choose not to use them.
So you can follow behind and justify your attacks?
>
> I am not here to set an example for anyone. I post as I choose - ask
> Mike to explain free speech to you again. And you can blame me as much
> as you want - given that the majority of sensible posters have sussed
> you for what you are, it can only be to my credit.
Then what on earth is your goal to help here, by childishly arguing with
me?
Is this some new PSP fad?
>
> >Maybe that's why your attempt to attack me in the comp-graphics
> >newsgroup, failed, like all your others.
>
> It didn't fail, because it wasn't an attack. I don't consider fair
> warning an attack - you are a poisonous cretin, and people deserve to
> know what they are getting into should they choose to engage you.
Most people in the comp-graphics newsgroup saw it as an attack. I posted
a picture and you came and followed behind, with your attack, because
you're such a mean person.
>
> As for me, I just love the fact that you can't resist responding to
> me. What a little puppet you are - predictable in the extreme. And
> it's all good - every time you open your mouth, you prove yourself to
> the unsuspecting. Perhaps one day you will realize that you are your
> own worst enemy (and not a very good troll, either) - you tip your
> hand far too readily.
>
> Keep it up - you are your own best warning.
If you enjoy "ruining" a newsgroup, please, go right ahead.
Uni
Jackie Laderoute
>Jackie Laderoute wrote:
>> I suggest that if they find certain individuals distasteful,
>> disturbing or hurtful, that they consider using killfiles. I have also
>> explained - on numerous occasions - why I choose not to use them.
>
>So you can follow behind and justify your attacks?
Nope - so I can keep track of your lies.
>> I am not here to set an example for anyone. I post as I choose - ask
>> Mike to explain free speech to you again. And you can blame me as much
>> as you want - given that the majority of sensible posters have sussed
>> you for what you are, it can only be to my credit.
>
>Then what on earth is your goal to help here, by childishly arguing with
>me?
Not my goal to help at all - from time to time, it amuses me to watch
you dance. It's a little bit like watching a rhinoceros rollerskate -
no matter how badly he does it, you can't help but laugh.
>Is this some new PSP fad?
Do follow along - PSP is for graphics. This is a text exchange.
>> It didn't fail, because it wasn't an attack. I don't consider fair
>> warning an attack - you are a poisonous cretin, and people deserve to
>> know what they are getting into should they choose to engage you.
>
>Most people in the comp-graphics newsgroup saw it as an attack. I posted
>a picture and you came and followed behind, with your attack, because
>you're such a mean person.
Another lie. Do you really think anyone believes you any more? No more
than they believe the nonsense you post about Jasc, about PSP or about
graphics in general. How does it feel to have no credibility?
>> Keep it up - you are your own best warning.
>
>If you enjoy "ruining" a newsgroup, please, go right ahead.
Given the knee-deep excrement you've dished out here, there's little I
could do to ruin it further.
Now - prove you can ignore me, or dance like the puppet you are. Your
choice.
Uni
>
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:59:13 -0500, Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote:
>
> >Jackie Laderoute wrote:
>
> >> I suggest that if they find certain individuals distasteful,
> >> disturbing or hurtful, that they consider using killfiles. I have also
> >> explained - on numerous occasions - why I choose not to use them.
> >
> >So you can follow behind and justify your attacks?
>
> Nope - so I can keep track of your lies.
Why, with your reputation throughout the usenet, I wouldn't worry a bit.
>
> >> I am not here to set an example for anyone. I post as I choose - ask
> >> Mike to explain free speech to you again. And you can blame me as much
> >> as you want - given that the majority of sensible posters have sussed
> >> you for what you are, it can only be to my credit.
> >
> >Then what on earth is your goal to help here, by childishly arguing with
> >me?
>
> Not my goal to help at all
I didn't think so. I think you just like exercising your fingers, with
hope, that you'll lose weight that way.
- from time to time, it amuses me to watch
> you dance. It's a little bit like watching a rhinoceros rollerskate -
> no matter how badly he does it, you can't help but laugh.
>
> >Is this some new PSP fad?
>
> Do follow along - PSP is for graphics. This is a text exchange.
Oh, I see.
>
> >> It didn't fail, because it wasn't an attack. I don't consider fair
> >> warning an attack - you are a poisonous cretin, and people deserve to
> >> know what they are getting into should they choose to engage you.
> >
> >Most people in the comp-graphics newsgroup saw it as an attack. I posted
> >a picture and you came and followed behind, with your attack, because
> >you're such a mean person.
>
> Another lie. Do you really think anyone believes you any more? No more
> than they believe the nonsense you post about Jasc, about PSP or about
> graphics in general. How does it feel to have no credibility?
Trust me, Jackie, I contact many people by e-mail. So, what you don't
hear, won't hurt you a bit.
I wouldn't call misleading the public "nonsense".
>
> >> Keep it up - you are your own best warning.
> >
> >If you enjoy "ruining" a newsgroup, please, go right ahead.
>
> Given the knee-deep excrement you've dished out here, there's little I
> could do to ruin it further.
>
> Now - prove you can ignore me, or dance like the puppet you are. Your
> choice.
Thanks, for chatting with me, big gal.
Uni
Jackie Laderoute
>Jackie Laderoute wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:59:13 -0500, Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote:
>> >So you can follow behind and justify your attacks?
>>
>> Nope - so I can keep track of your lies.
>
>Why, with your reputation throughout the usenet, I wouldn't worry a bit.
I don't. ;-) Unlike you, I stand behind my words. I don't lie, I don't
hide what I write, and I'm quite happy with my reputation. Anyone can
feel free to Google my posts; I have nothing to hide and nothing that
I am ashamed of (unlike you).
>> Not my goal to help at all
>
>I didn't think so. I think you just like exercising your fingers, with
>hope, that you'll lose weight that way.
<Laugh> Oh, how predictable. You've never disclosed why you decided I
must be overweight - but that's OK. No one believes you anyway.
>> Do follow along - PSP is for graphics. This is a text exchange.
>
>Oh, I see.
At a loss for words? How sad.
>> Another lie. Do you really think anyone believes you any more? No more
>> than they believe the nonsense you post about Jasc, about PSP or about
>> graphics in general. How does it feel to have no credibility?
>
>Trust me, Jackie, I contact many people by e-mail. So, what you don't
>hear, won't hurt you a bit.
Sure you do. Nothing like imaginary friends, is there? Do you hear
voices in your head, too?
>I wouldn't call misleading the public "nonsense".
You've yet to prove it - ergo, it's more Uni-lies (TM). Do keep up.
>> Now - prove you can ignore me, or dance like the puppet you are. Your
>> choice.
>
>Thanks, for chatting with me, big gal.
More weight fantasies. Silly little (in all senses of the word) man,
dancing on your strings.
Uni
>
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 23:19:53 -0500, Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote:
>
> >Jackie Laderoute wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:59:13 -0500, Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote:
>
> >> >So you can follow behind and justify your attacks?
> >>
> >> Nope - so I can keep track of your lies.
> >
> >Why, with your reputation throughout the usenet, I wouldn't worry a bit.
>
> I don't. ;-) Unlike you, I stand behind my words. I don't lie, I don't
> hide what I write, and I'm quite happy with my reputation.
When you applaud a corrupt software company, you lie through your teeth.
> Anyone can
> feel free to Google my posts; I have nothing to hide and nothing that
> I am ashamed of (unlike you).
What exactly am I ashamed of, big girl?
>
> >> Not my goal to help at all
> >
> >I didn't think so. I think you just like exercising your fingers, with
> >hope, that you'll lose weight that way.
>
> <Laugh> Oh, how predictable. You've never disclosed why you decided I
> must be overweight - but that's OK. No one believes you anyway.
That's okay, as long as I know.
>
> >> Do follow along - PSP is for graphics. This is a text exchange.
> >
> >Oh, I see.
>
> At a loss for words? How sad.
Oh, I see.
Uni
Jackie Laderoute
>What exactly am I ashamed of, big girl?
Take your pick - your lies, your lack of talent, your haranguing of
people, your insults, your toadying, your lies, your lies, your
lies.... Plenty of choice there, but I'd be most ashamed of
consistently proving myself a liar, were I you.
>> <Laugh> Oh, how predictable. You've never disclosed why you decided I
>> must be overweight - but that's OK. No one believes you anyway.
>
>That's okay, as long as I know.
Ah, but you don't. No pictures of me anywhere online, I'm afraid - and
unless you've decided to stalk me physically, there is no way you
could know anything about my looks - not weight, not height, not hair
colour (which has changed since the last time I mentioned it). Go
ahead - tell us how you "know". Silly boy - do you really think you
know anything about me?
>> More weight fantasies. Silly little (in all senses of the word) man,
>> dancing on your strings.
That bore repeating. ;-)
Uni
---------
Reinserted this, because Jackie was ashamed of facing the truth:
> I don't. ;-) Unlike you, I stand behind my words. I don't lie, I don't
> hide what I write, and I'm quite happy with my reputation.
When you applaud a corrupt software company, you lie through your teeth.
---------
>
> >What exactly am I ashamed of, big girl?
>
> Take your pick - your lies, your lack of talent, your haranguing of
> people, your insults, your toadying, your lies, your lies, your
> lies.... Plenty of choice there, but I'd be most ashamed of
> consistently proving myself a liar, were I you.
People have always insulted one another here, so what else is new? I
watched Sally Beacham run Eleanor out of this newsgroup.
As for my lack of talent, I'm not ashamed what I can do, and post to
several newsgroups. But it's obviously embarrassing for you to post your
work.
>
> >> <Laugh> Oh, how predictable. You've never disclosed why you decided I
> >> must be overweight - but that's OK. No one believes you anyway.
> >
> >That's okay, as long as I know.
>
> Ah, but you don't. No pictures of me anywhere online, I'm afraid - and
> unless you've decided to stalk me physically, there is no way you
> could know anything about my looks - not weight, not height, not hair
> colour (which has changed since the last time I mentioned it). Go
> ahead - tell us how you "know". Silly boy - do you really think you
> know anything about me?
I don't think, I know.
>
> >> More weight fantasies. Silly little (in all senses of the word) man,
> >> dancing on your strings.
>
> That bore repeating. ;-)
You sure you didn't mean "boar" Miss Piggy?
Uni
Jackie Laderoute
>Jackie Laderoute wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:26:26 -0500, Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote:
>
>---------
>Reinserted this, because Jackie was ashamed of facing the truth:
>
>> I don't. ;-) Unlike you, I stand behind my words. I don't lie, I don't
>> hide what I write, and I'm quite happy with my reputation.
>
>When you applaud a corrupt software company, you lie through your teeth.
>---------
Not the truth - your contentions (i.e. the words of a self proven
liar) with no proof attached. Given your track record, the safe bet is
always that you are lying yet again.
>People have always insulted one another here, so what else is new? I
>watched Sally Beacham run Eleanor out of this newsgroup.
Nonsense. You - as usual - saw what you chose to see. Sally posted
nothing more than what Mike posts here on a regular basis - that if
Eleanor didn't want to read it, no one was forcing her to. Funny how
you defend in Mike what you decry in others. Hypocritical as well as a
liar.
>As for my lack of talent, I'm not ashamed what I can do, and post to
>several newsgroups. But it's obviously embarrassing for you to post your
>work.
Nope. I just (generally) choose not to. I have no need for the
approval or approbations of anyone on Usenet - if I am pleased with my
graphics play, that is sufficient. If my superiors are pleased with
the graphics work I do for them, that also is sufficient (but those
graphics belong to them, and it is not my business to use them outside
their intended purpose).
>> Ah, but you don't. No pictures of me anywhere online, I'm afraid - and
>> unless you've decided to stalk me physically, there is no way you
>> could know anything about my looks - not weight, not height, not hair
>> colour (which has changed since the last time I mentioned it). Go
>> ahead - tell us how you "know". Silly boy - do you really think you
>> know anything about me?
>
>I don't think, I know.
No, you don't. Any more than you "know" anything about graphics, about
Jasc, or about corruption. With your track record here, do you
seriously think anyone believes you? But go ahead - tell us how you
"know". Details will help - I've met enough people on this newsgroup
that can confirm whether you're right or wrong. Height, weight, colour
of eyes, colour of hair, birthmarks - go ahead, take your pick. Prove
one of your contentions, little man.
>> >> More weight fantasies. Silly little (in all senses of the word) man,
>> >> dancing on your strings.
>>
>> That bore repeating. ;-)
>
>You sure you didn't mean "boar" Miss Piggy?
<Laugh> You really don't have a clue, do you? Now dance, puppet boy -
you know you can't resist.
Uni
>
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 01:13:25 -0500, Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote:
> >Jackie Laderoute wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:26:26 -0500, Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote:
> >
> >---------
> >Reinserted this, because Jackie was ashamed of facing the truth:
> >
> >> I don't. ;-) Unlike you, I stand behind my words. I don't lie, I don't
> >> hide what I write, and I'm quite happy with my reputation.
> >
> >When you applaud a corrupt software company, you lie through your teeth.
> >---------
>
> Not the truth - your contentions (i.e. the words of a self proven
> liar) with no proof attached. Given your track record, the safe bet is
> always that you are lying yet again.
How can I possibly lie when the proof remains on Jasc's web site?
Didn't you hear the other user, Jeff, who was not pleased that Jasc was
selling software other than their own, but the site states not a single
word about it?
>
> >People have always insulted one another here, so what else is new? I
> >watched Sally Beacham run Eleanor out of this newsgroup.
>
> Nonsense. You - as usual - saw what you chose to see. Sally posted
> nothing more than what Mike posts here on a regular basis - that if
> Eleanor didn't want to read it, no one was forcing her to. Funny how
> you defend in Mike what you decry in others. Hypocritical as well as a
> liar.
Sally told Eleanor if she didn't enjoy that fighting that goes on here,
to find some other newsgroup to participate in. Where is that cruel LVS
teacher, anyway?
>
> >As for my lack of talent, I'm not ashamed what I can do, and post to
> >several newsgroups. But it's obviously embarrassing for you to post your
> >work.
>
> Nope. I just (generally) choose not to. I have no need for the
> approval or approbations of anyone on Usenet - if I am pleased with my
> graphics play, that is sufficient. If my superiors are pleased with
> the graphics work I do for them, that also is sufficient (but those
> graphics belong to them, and it is not my business to use them outside
> their intended purpose).
Who are your "superiors"? Face it, Jackie, you have little talent, but
talk a good story, thanks to Google and Microsoft.
>
> >> Ah, but you don't. No pictures of me anywhere online, I'm afraid - and
> >> unless you've decided to stalk me physically, there is no way you
> >> could know anything about my looks - not weight, not height, not hair
> >> colour (which has changed since the last time I mentioned it). Go
> >> ahead - tell us how you "know". Silly boy - do you really think you
> >> know anything about me?
> >
> >I don't think, I know.
>
> No, you don't. Any more than you "know" anything about graphics, about
> Jasc, or about corruption.
Okay.
> With your track record here, do you
> seriously think anyone believes you? But go ahead - tell us how you
> "know". Details will help - I've met enough people on this newsgroup
> that can confirm whether you're right or wrong. Height, weight, colour
> of eyes, colour of hair, birthmarks - go ahead, take your pick. Prove
> one of your contentions, little man.
Where you one of the ones that met Kris in person? I know Sally and
Porter did.
I don't need to prove what I know about you.
>
> >> >> More weight fantasies. Silly little (in all senses of the word) man,
> >> >> dancing on your strings.
> >>
> >> That bore repeating. ;-)
> >
> >You sure you didn't mean "boar" Miss Piggy?
>
> <Laugh> You really don't have a clue, do you? Now dance, puppet boy -
> you know you can't resist.
Just don't step on my feet while we dance. I don't want to because a
cripple.
Uni
Jackie Laderoute
>Jackie Laderoute wrote:
>>
>> >When you applaud a corrupt software company, you lie through your teeth.
>
>> liar) with no proof attached. Given your track record, the safe bet is
>> always that you are lying yet again.
>
>How can I possibly lie when the proof remains on Jasc's web site?
>Didn't you hear the other user, Jeff, who was not pleased that Jasc was
>selling software other than their own, but the site states not a single
>word about it?
And that proves corruption... how? Btw, the filters each show the
author's name and website - Umemura Taka, http://www.livecraft.com.
Oh, look - his photo and email address:
http://www.livecraft.com/intro.htm. Now you can claim to "know" him.
>Sally told Eleanor if she didn't enjoy that fighting that goes on here,
>to find some other newsgroup to participate in. Where is that cruel LVS
>teacher, anyway?
I don't know - tired of you, perhaps? Nonetheless, I've seen far more
rudeness from you (even to newcomers like Ms. Moo) than from anyone
else on this group. Pot, kettle, etc.
>> >As for my lack of talent, I'm not ashamed what I can do, and post to
>> >several newsgroups. But it's obviously embarrassing for you to post your
>> >work.
>>
>> Nope. I just (generally) choose not to. I have no need for the
>> approval or approbations of anyone on Usenet - if I am pleased with my
>> graphics play, that is sufficient. If my superiors are pleased with
>> the graphics work I do for them, that also is sufficient (but those
>> graphics belong to them, and it is not my business to use them outside
>> their intended purpose).
>
>Who are your "superiors"? Face it, Jackie, you have little talent, but
>talk a good story, thanks to Google and Microsoft.
My superiors are the Brigade staff at 38 Canadian Brigade Group. Above
them, Land Forces Western Area. Above them, Land Forces Canada. Above
them, the Canadian Armed Forces and the Department of National
Defence. Above them, the Minister of Defence. Above him, the Prime
Minister. Above him, the Queen.
All copyright vests with the Crown.
>I don't need to prove what I know about you.
Of course you do - else you prove yourself a liar. Pick now.
>> <Laugh> You really don't have a clue, do you? Now dance, puppet boy -
>> you know you can't resist.
>
>Just don't step on my feet while we dance. I don't want to because a
>cripple.
You already are, in so many ways. Poor puppet.
Uni
>
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 01:47:37 -0500, Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote:
> >Jackie Laderoute wrote:
> >>
> >> >When you applaud a corrupt software company, you lie through your teeth.
> >
> >> Not the truth - your contentions (i.e. the words of a self proven
> >> liar) with no proof attached. Given your track record, the safe bet is
> >> always that you are lying yet again.
> >
> >How can I possibly lie when the proof remains on Jasc's web site?
> >Didn't you hear the other user, Jeff, who was not pleased that Jasc was
> >selling software other than their own, but the site states not a single
> >word about it?
>
> And that proves corruption... how? Btw, the filters each show the
> author's name and website - Umemura Taka, http://www.livecraft.com.
> Oh, look - his photo and email address:
> http://www.livecraft.com/intro.htm. Now you can claim to "know" him.
I took HIS word because he seems to be much more a honest person than
you are. And for all I know, Jasc just added those tibits to cover their
behind.
Who knows, maybe they also fixed up the Tour of Paint Shop Pro to
Exclude the web publishing to Studio Avenue Paint Shop Pro can't do.
>
> >Sally told Eleanor if she didn't enjoy that fighting that goes on here,
> >to find some other newsgroup to participate in. Where is that cruel LVS
> >teacher, anyway?
>
> I don't know - tired of you, perhaps? Nonetheless, I've seen far more
> rudeness from you (even to newcomers like Ms. Moo) than from anyone
> else on this group. Pot, kettle, etc.
The last I saw of her, she was running her mouth in one of the Photoshop
newsgroups.
>
> >> >As for my lack of talent, I'm not ashamed what I can do, and post to
> >> >several newsgroups. But it's obviously embarrassing for you to post your
> >> >work.
> >>
> >> Nope. I just (generally) choose not to. I have no need for the
> >> approval or approbations of anyone on Usenet - if I am pleased with my
> >> graphics play, that is sufficient. If my superiors are pleased with
> >> the graphics work I do for them, that also is sufficient (but those
> >> graphics belong to them, and it is not my business to use them outside
> >> their intended purpose).
> >
> >Who are your "superiors"? Face it, Jackie, you have little talent, but
> >talk a good story, thanks to Google and Microsoft.
>
> My superiors are the Brigade staff at 38 Canadian Brigade Group. Above
> them, Land Forces Western Area. Above them, Land Forces Canada. Above
> them, the Canadian Armed Forces and the Department of National
> Defence. Above them, the Minister of Defence. Above him, the Prime
> Minister. Above him, the Queen.
And what do they know about Paint Shop Pro or even art?
>
> All copyright vests with the Crown.
>
> >I don't need to prove what I know about you.
>
> Of course you do - else you prove yourself a liar. Pick now.
>
> >> <Laugh> You really don't have a clue, do you? Now dance, puppet boy -
> >> you know you can't resist.
> >
> >Just don't step on my feet while we dance. I don't want to because a
> >cripple.
>
> You already are, in so many ways. Poor puppet.
Artist Mike
":^) ®
... said I could play with one of his Net Toys. You are fun to play
with, Jackie.
Uni
Jackie Laderoute
>I took HIS word because he seems to be much more a honest person than
>you are. And for all I know, Jasc just added those tibits to cover their
>behind.
Added them to the filters I've owned for a year? I didn't realize that
time travel was within their capabilities. Oh - I get it. Another
reading for comprehension problem. Haven't quite worked that out yet,
hmmm?
>The last I saw of her, she was running her mouth in one of the Photoshop
>newsgroups.
Stalking Sally again? You really don't have a life.
>> My superiors are the Brigade staff at 38 Canadian Brigade Group. Above
>> them, Land Forces Western Area. Above them, Land Forces Canada. Above
>> them, the Canadian Armed Forces and the Department of National
>> Defence. Above them, the Minister of Defence. Above him, the Prime
>> Minister. Above him, the Queen.
>
>And what do they know about Paint Shop Pro or even art?
They pay me, in part, to do graphics (a small, but satisfying part).
They don't care how I do them, as long as the end product is
satisfactory for their needs. Most of them know nothing about art, the
printers know only what they need, and it's up to me to produce what
is required. You might understand these things if you were gainfully
employed.
>> >I don't need to prove what I know about you.
>>
>> Of course you do - else you prove yourself a liar. Pick now.
Guess that proves it. Poor little liar, exposing himself again.
>Artist Mike
>
>":^) ®
>
>http://www.artistmike.com
>
>... said I could play with one of his Net Toys. You are fun to play
>with, Jackie.
Nice try, puppet boy. Trying to save face at the end? Ah yes, the
rollerskating rhinoceros... good for a laugh, if nothing else.
Poor puppet.
Uni
>
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:17:50 -0500, Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote:
>
> >I took HIS word because he seems to be much more a honest person than
> >you are. And for all I know, Jasc just added those tibits to cover their
> >behind.
>
> Added them to the filters I've owned for a year? I didn't realize that
> time travel was within their capabilities. Oh - I get it. Another
> reading for comprehension problem. Haven't quite worked that out yet,
> hmmm?
Didn't Kris Zaklika, of Jasc Software, Inc., state, in this newsgroup,
that AfterShot was not developed by Jasc, but was purchased and sold
under the Jasc name?
And why is the PSP Photo Album software up to version 4 already?
Quite honestly, I'm rather confused what they actually develop, in
house. I look at the Credits in Paint Shop Pro, and all I see are
"Engineers" listed, with not a single "Programmer" in sight.
When an individual from Jasc Software, Inc. is allowed to threaten a
customer, via e-mail, and nothing is done about it, that's a form of
corruption.
>
> >The last I saw of her, she was running her mouth in one of the Photoshop
> >newsgroups.
>
> Stalking Sally again? You really don't have a life.
Just observing one of your LVS female friends, Jackie.
>
> >> My superiors are the Brigade staff at 38 Canadian Brigade Group. Above
> >> them, Land Forces Western Area. Above them, Land Forces Canada. Above
> >> them, the Canadian Armed Forces and the Department of National
> >> Defence. Above them, the Minister of Defence. Above him, the Prime
> >> Minister. Above him, the Queen.
> >
> >And what do they know about Paint Shop Pro or even art?
>
> They pay me, in part, to do graphics (a small, but satisfying part).
> They don't care how I do them, as long as the end product is
> satisfactory for their needs.
I see. Now, what did you actually create?
Uni
Jackie Laderoute
[normal hysterics, sans proof again]
Just can't resist, can you?
You're a liar, Uni - and you've proved it yet again. Why should anyone
take anything you say to be other than a lie? Why should anyone bother
addressing your foolish lies?
You might do better over on alt.conspiracy. Just remember to line your
colander with tin foil - shiny side out to reflect the mind rays.
Now, dance some more, and tell us how the world is out to get you.
Uni
>
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:41:28 -0500, Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote:
>
> [normal hysterics, sans proof again]
>
> Just can't resist, can you?
---------------------
<Reinserted again, because Jackie is ashamed, so she has to conceal the
evidence>
Didn't Kris Zaklika, of Jasc Software, Inc., state, in this newsgroup,
that AfterShot was not developed by Jasc, but was purchased and sold
under the Jasc name?
And why is the PSP Photo Album software up to version 4 already?
Quite honestly, I'm rather confused what they actually develop, in
house. I look at the Credits in Paint Shop Pro, and all I see are
"Engineers" listed, with not a single "Programmer" in sight.
When an individual from Jasc Software, Inc. is allowed to threaten a
customer, via e-mail, and nothing is done about it, that's a form of
corruption.
-----------------
>
> You're a liar, Uni - and you've proved it yet again. Why should anyone
> take anything you say to be other than a lie? Why should anyone bother
> addressing your foolish lies?
You seem to enjoy it.
>
> You might do better over on alt.conspiracy. Just remember to line your
> colander with tin foil - shiny side out to reflect the mind rays.
Cute, Jackie. Maybe I'll send Kris's e-mails to Adobe. Maybe they can
use it in one of their advertisements how they don't treat their
customers.
Uni
Jackie Laderoute
>Jackie Laderoute wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:41:28 -0500, Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote:
>>
>> [normal hysterics, sans proof again]
>>
>> Just can't resist, can you?
>
>---------------------
><Reinserted again, because Jackie is ashamed, so she has to conceal the
>evidence>
What have I to be ashamed of? And what "evidence" have you provided?
Repeating lies does not give them any reality - it just makes you look
even more dishonest.
>Didn't Kris Zaklika, of Jasc Software, Inc., state, in this newsgroup,
>that AfterShot was not developed by Jasc, but was purchased and sold
>under the Jasc name?
Yes - that's no surprise. Jasc's purchase was announced in the media;
hardly a coverup.
>And why is the PSP Photo Album software up to version 4 already?
Because they've gone through three revisions to the original code? Bet
the next one will be version 5.
>Quite honestly, I'm rather confused what they actually develop, in
>house. I look at the Credits in Paint Shop Pro, and all I see are
>"Engineers" listed, with not a single "Programmer" in sight.
So? Just what is the difference between a software engineer and a
programmer in your mind?
>When an individual from Jasc Software, Inc. is allowed to threaten a
>customer, via e-mail, and nothing is done about it, that's a form of
>corruption.
Again, no proof. Read below - slowly. Read it again. Get it? Nobody
believes proven liars. How sad for you.
>> You're a liar, Uni - and you've proved it yet again. Why should anyone
>> take anything you say to be other than a lie? Why should anyone bother
>> addressing your foolish lies?
>
>You seem to enjoy it.
I enjoy making you expose yourself. You're stupid enough to fall for
it every time, and it saves me the trouble when you do it yourself.
>> You might do better over on alt.conspiracy. Just remember to line your
>> colander with tin foil - shiny side out to reflect the mind rays.
>
>Cute, Jackie. Maybe I'll send Kris's e-mails to Adobe. Maybe they can
>use it in one of their advertisements how they don't treat their
>customers.
I know far more about how Adobe treats their customers than you
(actually being one helps). Look at Chris Cox - he's well known
(especially in his interactions with Timo) for being less than
judicious in his distaste. I suspect he'd email Kris a letter of
sympathy and understanding. ;-)
Now, c'mon puppet. Prove that anything you've said is not a lie, or
just dance again. Silly puppet.
Uni
>
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 03:08:12 -0500, Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote:
>
> >Jackie Laderoute wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:41:28 -0500, Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> [normal hysterics, sans proof again]
> >>
> >> Just can't resist, can you?
> >
> >---------------------
> ><Reinserted again, because Jackie is ashamed, so she has to conceal the
> >evidence>
>
> What have I to be ashamed of?
Why do you keep snipping what you don't want others to read?
> And what "evidence" have you provided?
What's on Jasc's web site and what I shared in private with people I
know, by mail.
> Repeating lies does not give them any reality - it just makes you look
> even more dishonest.
I see. You'd make a poor defense lawyer.
.
>
> >Didn't Kris Zaklika, of Jasc Software, Inc., state, in this newsgroup,
> >that AfterShot was not developed by Jasc, but was purchased and sold
> >under the Jasc name?
>
> Yes - that's no surprise. Jasc's purchase was announced in the media;
> hardly a coverup.
What "media" are you talking about?
>
> >And why is the PSP Photo Album software up to version 4 already?
>
> Because they've gone through three revisions to the original code? Bet
> the next one will be version 5.
It states, on Jasc's web site, it is replacing AfterShot, so it must be
new software. Just seems really odd that a new version is released as
version 4.
>
> >Quite honestly, I'm rather confused what they actually develop, in
> >house. I look at the Credits in Paint Shop Pro, and all I see are
> >"Engineers" listed, with not a single "Programmer" in sight.
>
> So? Just what is the difference between a software engineer and a
> programmer in your mind?
Nothing at all. Again, it just seems a bit odd to group everyone as an
Engineer. Adobe, doesn't practice that.
>
> >When an individual from Jasc Software, Inc. is allowed to threaten a
> >customer, via e-mail, and nothing is done about it, that's a form of
> >corruption.
>
> Again, no proof. Read below - slowly. Read it again. Get it? Nobody
> believes proven liars. How sad for you.
Like I said, Jackie, what you don't see won't hurt you.
>
> >> You're a liar, Uni - and you've proved it yet again. Why should anyone
> >> take anything you say to be other than a lie? Why should anyone bother
> >> addressing your foolish lies?
> >
> >You seem to enjoy it.
>
> I enjoy making you expose yourself. You're stupid enough to fall for
> it every time, and it saves me the trouble when you do it yourself.
Thanks, for saving our world.
>
> >> You might do better over on alt.conspiracy. Just remember to line your
> >> colander with tin foil - shiny side out to reflect the mind rays.
> >
> >Cute, Jackie. Maybe I'll send Kris's e-mails to Adobe. Maybe they can
> >use it in one of their advertisements how they don't treat their
> >customers.
>
> I know far more about how Adobe treats their customers than you
> (actually being one helps). Look at Chris Cox - he's well known
> (especially in his interactions with Timo) for being less than
> judicious in his distaste. I suspect he'd email Kris a letter of
> sympathy and understanding. ;-)
I observed Mr. Cox. I did not see anyone complaining about him in the
Photoshop newsgroup, of him e-mailing threatening notices. Kris also
contacted at least on other participant in this newsgroup, with the
intent to tell this person off.
Uni
jbc
> Uni wrote:
>> Maybe I'll send Kris's e-mails to Adobe.
> Look at Chris Cox - he's well known
> (especially in his interactions with Timo)
> for being less than judicious in his distaste. I
> suspect he'd email Kris a letter of sympathy
> and understanding. ;-)
And you actually think this is funny.
Let me tell you that I as an enthusiastic new poster and foreign customer
did not think so at all when it happened to me with Jasc's Kris Zaklika.
You can patrol and stomp back and forth through this newsgroup to defend him
till doomsday and it still won't be funny and it still isn't right.
Joske
Nightingail
your opinion and you have a right to it. Others don't share that opinion,
and also have the right to say so. Personally, I have the highest respect
for Kris, for his knowledge, and for the way he has treated customers. If
your perception causes you to have a differing view, so be it. If you feel
the need to jump in with your personal criticism of Kris every so often, go
right ahead. Newbies and lurkers will form their own opinions of him
regardless of what you post. Your posts only serve to help others form an
opinion of *you*.
Gail
--
Nightingail's Gallery
http://www.nightingail.com
Digital Artwork
Free Web Art and Graphics
"jbc" <j.ba...@home.nl> wrote in message
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Fugitive
Joske; Even when I was at my worst, and I once was, Kris came very
close to always being a gentleman. If, in your case he wasn't, I
suspect you brought that on. Let it lie, let it lie, it's in the past
and done. Let it be.
Greg
New Album http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=fugitive1
adult gallery. http://community.webshots.com/user/fugitive02
"Cyberspace scared me so badly, I downloaded in my pants".
Stephen King, Insomnia
Stephen Stewart
"Uni" <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in message
news:3E329DA7...@no.email.org...
>
> Your images, while cute, don't impress me.
> They look like you write, that is, poorly, with little to no pride.
> If you require further explanation, just yell :-)
>
Well the sky's lifelike but the ocean looks rather pixellated (especially
near the bottom right).
Stephen
Uni
>
> Joske, noone is arguing about your feelings towards Kris Zaklika. That is
> your opinion and you have a right to it. Others don't share that opinion,
> and also have the right to say so. Personally, I have the highest respect
> for Kris, for his knowledge, and for the way he has treated customers.
I've personally seen him treat customers like trash, in this very
newsgroup. But you come and go often, so how would you know?
> If
> your perception causes you to have a differing view, so be it. If you feel
> the need to jump in with your personal criticism of Kris every so often, go
> right ahead. Newbies and lurkers will form their own opinions of him
> regardless of what you post. Your posts only serve to help others form an
> opinion of *you*.
The majority of people that visit this newsgroup could care less about
anyone's opinion. They ask a question, they get an answer and leave.
I formed my opinion of you, Gail, when you fought with Nick, telling him
off, publicly, then telling him to take his reply to e-mail. What a
heavenly person you are.
Uni
Uni
>
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:39:07 +0100, "jbc" <j.ba...@home.nl> wrote:
>
> >Jackie Laderoute wrote:
> >> Uni wrote:
> >
> >>> Maybe I'll send Kris's e-mails to Adobe.
> >
> >> Look at Chris Cox - he's well known
> >> (especially in his interactions with Timo)
> >> for being less than judicious in his distaste. I
> >> suspect he'd email Kris a letter of sympathy
> >> and understanding. ;-)
> >
> >And you actually think this is funny.
> >
> >Let me tell you that I as an enthusiastic new poster and foreign customer
> >did not think so at all when it happened to me with Jasc's Kris Zaklika.
> >
> >You can patrol and stomp back and forth through this newsgroup to defend him
> >till doomsday and it still won't be funny and it still isn't right.
> >
> >Joske
> >
> >
>
> Joske; Even when I was at my worst, and I once was, Kris came very
> close to always being a gentleman. If, in your case he wasn't, I
> suspect you brought that on.
So, he could care less about gender and trashes both males and females
equally. I guess that's gentleman like.
Uni
Mike
jflad...@shaw.ca wrote on 1/25/03 7:39 PM:
> As for me, I just love the fact that you can't resist responding to
> me.
I think you are responding to him also.
":^) ®
> every time you open your mouth, you prove yourself to
> the unsuspecting.
As do you.
":^) ®
> Perhaps one day you will realize that you are your
> own worst enemy...
Mirrors .... are there mirrors in your home?
":^) ®
--
Mike
€ Logo Design €
Put some fun in your next logo!
Site at: http://www.artistmike.com
Mike
jflad...@shaw.ca wrote on 1/25/03 8:02 PM:
>> Most people in the comp-graphics newsgroup saw it as an attack. I posted
>> a picture and you came and followed behind, with your attack, because
>> you're such a mean person.
>
> Another lie.
I don't know about "most people" and what they "saw"... but I did see you
making rude comments about the graphic.
Mike
jflad...@shaw.ca wrote on 1/25/03 8:21 PM:
>> Oh, I see.
>
> At a loss for words? How sad.
How rude.
":^) ®
> > I contact many people by e-mail. So, what you don't
>> hear, won't hurt you a bit.
> Sure you do. Nothing like imaginary friends, is there? Do you hear
> voices in your head, too?
How rude.
":^) ®
> Silly little (in all senses of the word) man,
> dancing on your strings.
>
> Jackie
So much rude behavior... so sad.
Mike
jflad...@shaw.ca wrote on 1/25/03 10:24 PM:
> With your track record here, do you
> seriously think anyone believes you?
What "anyone" believes is irrelevant. He has as much right to post his
opinions as you do.
You are free to think him a liar and he is free to think you are overweight.
Mike
jflad...@shaw.ca wrote on 1/25/03 11:17 PM:
> Ah yes, the
> rollerskating rhinoceros... good for a laugh, if nothing else.
Projecting your own self image upon others?
If not... then being rude again?
How sad.
Mike
wrote on 1/25/03 11:17 PM:
> Artist Mike
> ... said I could play with one of his Net Toys. You are fun to play
> with, Jackie.
Be careful with her... don't break my toys.
Mike
night...@yahoo.com wrote on 1/26/03 2:39 AM:
> Newbies and lurkers will form their own opinions of him
> regardless of what you post. Your posts only serve to help others form an
> opinion of *you*.
>
> Gail
Just a little reminder... you don't get to decide what "Newbies and lurkers"
use to make their decisions.
Each reader decides on the value to place on each message.
Mike
gregfar...@earthlink.net wrote on 1/26/03 2:41 AM:
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:39:07 +0100, "jbc" <j.ba...@home.nl> wrote:
>
>> Jackie Laderoute wrote:
>>> Uni wrote:
>>
>>>> Maybe I'll send Kris's e-mails to Adobe.
>>
>>> Look at Chris Cox - he's well known
>>> (especially in his interactions with Timo)
>>> for being less than judicious in his distaste. I
>>> suspect he'd email Kris a letter of sympathy
>>> and understanding. ;-)
>>
>> And you actually think this is funny.
>>
>> Let me tell you that I as an enthusiastic new poster and foreign customer
>> did not think so at all when it happened to me with Jasc's Kris Zaklika.
>>
>> You can patrol and stomp back and forth through this newsgroup to defend him
>> till doomsday and it still won't be funny and it still isn't right.
>>
>> Joske
>>
>>
>
> Joske; Even when I was at my worst, and I once was, Kris came very
> close to always being a gentleman. If, in your case he wasn't, I
> suspect you brought that on.
Oh, that's good. Take the blame for the emails off of the author and put it
on the reciever.
I do laugh at your "logic".
Jackie Laderoute
>in article 5e273vgin6hdk2ab6...@4ax.com, Jackie Laderoute at
>jflad...@shaw.ca wrote on 1/25/03 11:17 PM:
>
>> Ah yes, the
>> rollerskating rhinoceros... good for a laugh, if nothing else.
>
>Projecting your own self image upon others?
>
>If not... then being rude again?
Absolutely. I have nothing to gain by being polite to liars.
>How sad.
Or thieves. Must suck to know that people form their opinions of you
by your own behaviours - makes the "clique doesn't like me" lament
fall flat.
Uni
>
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 08:11:18 -0800, Mike <mi...@artistmike.com> wrote:
>
> >in article 5e273vgin6hdk2ab6...@4ax.com, Jackie Laderoute at
> >jflad...@shaw.ca wrote on 1/25/03 11:17 PM:
> >
> >> Ah yes, the
> >> rollerskating rhinoceros... good for a laugh, if nothing else.
> >
> >Projecting your own self image upon others?
> >
> >If not... then being rude again?
>
> Absolutely. I have nothing to gain by being polite to liars.
>
> >How sad.
>
> Or thieves. Must suck to know that people form their opinions of you
> by your own behaviours - makes the "clique doesn't like me" lament
> fall flat.
Jackie's back!!!!!!!!
Hi Jackie!! You fizzled out on me!!!! Hubby tell you to take the dog for
a walk, or did you have to restock the fridge, due to your midnight
snack? I do hope we can continue our conversation!!
Big HUGS to a BIG Gal.
Uni
Jackie Laderoute
>Jackie Laderoute wrote:
>> Uni wrote:
>
>>> Maybe I'll send Kris's e-mails to Adobe.
>
>> Look at Chris Cox - he's well known
>> (especially in his interactions with Timo)
>> for being less than judicious in his distaste. I
>> suspect he'd email Kris a letter of sympathy
>> and understanding. ;-)
>
>And you actually think this is funny.
Absolutely. Uni prances about, lying about everything, and then gets
offended when people think he's a thief. "My PSP" can't do this, "My
PSP" doesn't have that - then he complains that people think "his PSP"
is probably a warez version? If you can't see the irony in that, you
are truly humour impaired.
>Let me tell you that I as an enthusiastic new poster and foreign customer
>did not think so at all when it happened to me with Jasc's Kris Zaklika.
Was that before or after you decided to misrepresent what you
"thought" Kris had said in this newsgroup - implying that he had
violated his NDA?
>You can patrol and stomp back and forth through this newsgroup to defend him
>till doomsday and it still won't be funny and it still isn't right.
Poor thing - but you are learning from the puppet. You may claim to
want a fresh start, but it's always the same old thing.
Blaze1
I don't work for JASC and I don't want to make this sound like an attack
because it isn't. But your understanding of the software business seems to
be very little. That's not a bad thing mind you but I'd like to point out a
couple of things.
> Didn't Kris Zaklika, of Jasc Software, Inc., state, in this newsgroup,
> that AfterShot was not developed by Jasc, but was purchased and sold
> under the Jasc name?
This is common practice. For example game companies do this sort of thing
all the time. If you look at almost any Activision game, it's produced by a
smaller company and distributed through Activision.
The benefit is for both the developer and the distributor. The developer
ususally gets a royalty and perhaps even some start up funding while the
distributor gets to add another 'notch' to their offerings. This is a legal
agreement between the two parties as to how much compensation and how much
credit is displayed etc. Neither party is getting screwed by this.
> Quite honestly, I'm rather confused what they actually develop, in
> house. I look at the Credits in Paint Shop Pro, and all I see are
> "Engineers" listed, with not a single "Programmer" in sight.
Why should this matter? Either you like their product or not.
> When an individual from Jasc Software, Inc. is allowed to threaten a
> customer, via e-mail, and nothing is done about it, that's a form of
> corruption.
I'm still curious about this. Honestly I'd like to know what threats you
received. But I know you don't want to share...
Uni
You learn quickly.
Now, give FEEBLE a pat on the back for his mush watercolor thing.
Uni
Nightingail
>Yes, I have seen you feel insulted about Kris' >derogatory remark about
> plug-ins and yet swallow your pride to get your feelings across without
> irritating him. That is not respect, Gail, that is fear.
>
> That is your choice - we each respond to arrogance in our own way,
> especially when we think we need something from someone.
>
> Joske
Your fantasies about me are irrelevant. (© Mike C.)
Nightingail
news:BA5950DE.2DE5C%mi...@artistmike.com...
> in article JVOY9.4477>
> > Newbies and lurkers will form their own opinions of him
It wasn't my intention to 'decide' - I was just guessing as to what some
people might or might not do. But you have a point. I tend to underestimate
the sheer quantity of silly people in the world.
If people decide to place
value on the National Enquirer, Aurelians,or Rush Limbaugh, that would
indeed be their decision to make ;-)
Nightingail
news:BA5950DE.2DE5C%mi...@artistmike.com...
> in article JVOY9.4477>
It wasn't my intention to 'decide' - I was just guessing as to what some
people might or might not do. But you have a point. I tend to underestimate
the quantity of silly people in the world. If people decide to place
value on the National Enquirer, Aurelians,or Rush Limbaugh, that would
indeed be their decision to make ;-)
Nightingail
news:BA5950DE.2DE5C%mi...@artistmike.com...
> in article JVOY9.4477>
It wasn't my intention to 'decide' - I was just guessing as to what some
people might or might not do. But you have a point. I tend to underestimate
the sheer quantity of silly people in the world. If people decide to place
value on the National Enquirer, Aurelians,or Rush Limbaugh, that would
indeed be their decision to make ;-)
Gail
Kris Zaklika
>
> Uni,
>
> I don't work for JASC and I don't want to make this sound like an attack
> because it isn't. But your understanding of the software business seems to
> be very little. That's not a bad thing mind you but I'd like to point out a
> couple of things.
>
> > Didn't Kris Zaklika, of Jasc Software, Inc., state, in this newsgroup,
> > that AfterShot was not developed by Jasc, but was purchased and sold
> > under the Jasc name?
>
> This is common practice. For example game companies do this sort of thing
> all the time. If you look at almost any Activision game, it's produced by a
> smaller company and distributed through Activision.
A more pertinent example would be the artistic effects in Photoshop.
A cursory examination of Help > About > Plug-in shows that the
effects came from Imageware Research and Development Inc. and the
technology was not developed in-house at Adobe. I expect few Adobe
customers care about this and most appreciate that Adobe took steps
to put the effects in the program, even if they had to be licensed.
As regards After Shot, it was originally a product acquired from
Sierra Imaging, who sold it as Image Expert. Development of the
product has moved to Jasc and the most recent beta version is
available for download here: http://www.jasc.com/pbeta/pspa/
After Shot is now know as Paint Shop Photo Album to reflect the
fact it is now fully a member of the Jasc product family, with
development being done in-house. Just to show how complex the
software business is, I might mention that some of the technology
in Image Expert was acquired by Sierra and not developed by them :)
[snip]
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Kris Zaklika Jasc Software, Inc. The
Product Ideas: id...@jasc.com Power
Customer Service: customer...@jasc.com To
Technical Support: tec...@jasc.com Create
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nightingail
> very important. If you feel your safest bet is in publicly showing you too
> are speaking up, then do so.
>
> I have my work to show, and that stands no matter how other PSP'ers feel
> this should be about socializing with the right crowd.
I know what incident you were referring to you. What I meant by your
'fantasies' is that you interpreted that incident as my being 'afraid' of
Kris and 'swallowing my pride'. Those are your fantasies, i.e. how you
interpret the interaction, which of course is up to you. Kris and I have
been exchanging opinions about plugins long before you came to the
newsgroup, thus you have no idea what motivates anything I say to Kris (or
to anyone else for that matter). You can guess.. i.e. "fantasize", but
that's about it. This aside, you are right about one thing. None of this is
very important.
Gail
Kris Zaklika
The real situation is quite the reverse. Three or four times a
year Gail comes to my house and beats me about the head with
every plug-in in her possession. If I don't show the proper
level of respect she threatens to fractalize me. Then I can do
nothing but submit. She wears a devil mask for this exploit
and I am required to don a T-shirt emblazoned with the words
"Fraktalz Rulez". I live in mortal fear and my children cower
in the basement whenever she comes visiting. To tell you the
truth, the children inhabit the basement most of the time
because that's where the television and video games are, but
it makes a better fantasy when I tell it differently and say
they cower. In fact, Gail doesn't wear a devil mask either;
nor do I wear the T-shirt, but saying so contributes to the
fantasy as well. It may even be possible that Gail's visits
are entirely imaginary but none of you can know if they are
or not. Both Gail and I are right about plug-ins and both Gail
and I think none of this is important. Nobody will even notice
my post in the flood of silliness that constitutes today's
postings.
> Gail
> --
> Nightingail's Gallery
> http://www.nightingail.com
> Digital Artwork
--
Jackie Laderoute
wrote:
>The real situation is quite the reverse. Three or four times a
>year Gail comes to my house and beats me about the head with
>every plug-in in her possession. If I don't show the proper
>level of respect she threatens to fractalize me. Then I can do
>nothing but submit. She wears a devil mask for this exploit
>and I am required to don a T-shirt emblazoned with the words
>"Fraktalz Rulez". I live in mortal fear and my children cower
>in the basement whenever she comes visiting. To tell you the
>truth, the children inhabit the basement most of the time
>because that's where the television and video games are, but
>it makes a better fantasy when I tell it differently and say
>they cower. In fact, Gail doesn't wear a devil mask either;
>nor do I wear the T-shirt, but saying so contributes to the
>fantasy as well. It may even be possible that Gail's visits
>are entirely imaginary but none of you can know if they are
>or not. Both Gail and I are right about plug-ins and both Gail
>and I think none of this is important. Nobody will even notice
>my post in the flood of silliness that constitutes today's
>postings.
<Laugh> I just want to know why she doesn't visit me. I'll even wear
the T-shirt, but she can only beat me about the head with plugins that
I don't already own.
As for the kids, if she can keep them in the basement, that's good,
too. ;-)
Jackie Laderoute
>Now I know you probably wrote this...
[snip conjectural crap]
Oh gosh, what *would* we do without the infallible Joske to tell us
what is *really* going on? Just what is the source of this received
wisdom that empowers you - and only you - to interpret what people
mean? Seems to me that you see everything through the meanspirited
focus of your own personal biases... but, unlike you, I could be
wrong.
Why am I beginning to suspect that you were a literature major, always
sucking the joy out of reading by earnestly expounding on the author's
"true" meaning?
Porter
"Jackie Laderoute" <jflad...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
snip
> >As for my lack of talent, I'm not ashamed what I can do, and post to
> >several newsgroups. But it's obviously embarrassing for you to post your
> >work.
>
> Nope. I just (generally) choose not to. I have no need for the
> approval or approbations of anyone on Usenet - if I am pleased with my
> graphics play, that is sufficient. If my superiors are pleased with
> the graphics work I do for them, that also is sufficient (but those
> graphics belong to them, and it is not my business to use them outside
> their intended purpose).
>
> >> Ah, but you don't. No pictures of me anywhere online, I'm afraid - and
> >> unless you've decided to stalk me physically, there is no way you
> >> could know anything about my looks - not weight, not height, not hair
> >> colour (which has changed since the last time I mentioned it). Go
> >> ahead - tell us how you "know". Silly boy - do you really think you
> >> know anything about me?
> >
> >I don't think, I know.
>
> No, you don't. Any more than you "know" anything about graphics, about
> Jasc, or about corruption. With your track record here, do you
> seriously think anyone believes you? But go ahead - tell us how you
> "know". Details will help - I've met enough people on this newsgroup
> that can confirm whether you're right or wrong. Height, weight, colour
> of eyes, colour of hair, birthmarks - go ahead, take your pick. Prove
> one of your contentions, little man.
>
> >> >> More weight fantasies. Silly little (in all senses of the word) man,
> >> >> dancing on your strings.
> >>
> >> That bore repeating. ;-)
> >
> >You sure you didn't mean "boar" Miss Piggy?
>
> <Laugh> You really don't have a clue, do you? Now dance, puppet boy -
> you know you can't resist.
You know Jackie, I killfile trolls. I also make it a pretty strict practice
to skip right by all these threads where you are waltzing with them, and
shining a reality-check spotlight/flashlight onto their disgusting tiresome
behaviors. Generally the instant I see who you are quoting, there's just no
real reason for me to read further. Especially when it's all absolutely
nothing new here, or of any value to me whatsoever. Consequently, I've never
seen any of this weight stuff?
Somehow that word Piggy (pork lover that I am) caught the corner of my eye,
and I allowed myself to be sucked into reading this rather unending tome.
Should I ascertain here, that a woman who would have to gain at least twenty
frigging pounds to even be considered slender - is actually being ongoing
harangued as "fat"? Okay, now THAT is really funny. Also pretty typical,
considering the truly desperate pathetic state of its source.
Never though I'd actually be enjoying a laugh over any of this swill. Get
it? Swill, piggy - sometimes I just slay me. :) Excuse the interruption. I
only stopped by, to OT the thread.
Porter
Jackie Laderoute
<campratty...@attbi.com> wrote:
>> >You sure you didn't mean "boar" Miss Piggy?
>
>You know Jackie, I killfile trolls. I also make it a pretty strict practice
>to skip right by all these threads where you are waltzing with them, and
>shining a reality-check spotlight/flashlight onto their disgusting tiresome
>behaviors. Generally the instant I see who you are quoting, there's just no
>real reason for me to read further. Especially when it's all absolutely
>nothing new here, or of any value to me whatsoever. Consequently, I've never
>seen any of this weight stuff?
You haven't missed much. ;-) Long story short, somehow Uni "knows"
that I am fat. Been going on forever. <lol> Now he's got krustov on
that bandwagon, too.
>Somehow that word Piggy (pork lover that I am) caught the corner of my eye,
>and I allowed myself to be sucked into reading this rather unending tome.
>Should I ascertain here, that a woman who would have to gain at least twenty
>frigging pounds to even be considered slender - is actually being ongoing
>harangued as "fat"? Okay, now THAT is really funny. Also pretty typical,
>considering the truly desperate pathetic state of its source.
<laugh> Shhh... you're going to let my secret out (and it's only ten
pounds they want me to gain - the big concern being that rifle and
full kit is more than 60 per cent of my body weight <g>). What's
really funny is that, as an army officer, I have one of the few
occupations that will stand me on a scale twice a year. The only time
they ever told me to lose weight (five pounds, as I recall), I was
twenty-one days postpartum and breastfeeding. ;-) After I finished
"educating" the medic about what I thought of that, they took the
notation off my file.
[Of course, my thirteen year old would be happy if I gained weight -
then I'd stop stealing her jeans. ;-)]
But the thing for me has always been not a question of any sort of
hurt feelings - I'm not fat, so Uni just proves himself a liar
continually - but concern for others. I've met some of the people
here, but by no means most of them. For all I know, some of them could
be overweight and sensitive about it - how many of them are out there
cringing every time he makes a fat joke at my "expense"?
>Never though I'd actually be enjoying a laugh over any of this swill. Get
>it? Swill, piggy - sometimes I just slay me. :) Excuse the interruption. I
>only stopped by, to OT the thread.
Thank you for that. Should have done it myself, but heat of the
moment, etc. I think I've vented just about all the spleen I can
tolerate for the nonce - the idiots just have a way of pushing my
blood pressure into the danger zone every so often. (Of course,
"someone" will take that as an indication of a hypertension problem -
it's a metaphor, folks. My BP last week was 90 over 60, low as is
normal for me. I hit 120 over 80 once in my life, during my second
pregnancy, and I was hospitalized for it. Satisfied? <g>)
Uni
>
> Blaze1 wrote:
> >
> > Uni,
> >
> > I don't work for JASC and I don't want to make this sound like an attack
> > because it isn't. But your understanding of the software business seems to
> > be very little. That's not a bad thing mind you but I'd like to point out a
> > couple of things.
> >
> > > Didn't Kris Zaklika, of Jasc Software, Inc., state, in this newsgroup,
> > > that AfterShot was not developed by Jasc, but was purchased and sold
> > > under the Jasc name?
> >
> > This is common practice. For example game companies do this sort of thing
> > all the time. If you look at almost any Activision game, it's produced by a
> > smaller company and distributed through Activision.
>
> A more pertinent example would be the artistic effects in Photoshop.
> A cursory examination of Help > About > Plug-in shows that the
> effects came from Imageware Research and Development Inc. and the
> technology was not developed in-house at Adobe. I expect few Adobe
> customers care about this and most appreciate that Adobe took steps
> to put the effects in the program, even if they had to be licensed.
>
> As regards After Shot, it was originally a product acquired from
> Sierra Imaging, who sold it as Image Expert.
See, Jackie, I am right and you were WRONG! You're ALWAY wrong!!!!!
Uni
Shadowfax
news:3E3487F1...@no.email.org:
> You're ALWAY wrong!!!!!
>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
This is better than the Super Bowl...oh well, half time is over.
--
Scott
**Remove the NO and SPAM from my e-mail address to reply**
Uni
>
> Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in
> news:3E3487F1...@no.email.org:
>
> > You're ALWAY wrong!!!!!
> >
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
And you'll notice how the keyword "watercolor" bring both Blaze and
Faxman out from hiding.
Uni
Uni
>
> "Mike" <mi...@artistmike.com> wrote in message
> news:BA5950DE.2DE5C%mi...@artistmike.com...
> > in article JVOY9.4477>
> > > Newbies and lurkers will form their own opinions of him
> > Each reader decides on the value to place on each message
>
> It wasn't my intention to 'decide' - I was just guessing as to what some
> people might or might not do. But you have a point. I tend to underestimate
> the quantity of silly people in the world. If people decide to place
> value on the National Enquirer, Aurelians,or Rush Limbaugh, that would
> indeed be their decision to make ;-)
Artist Mike, I'm glad YOU'RE an Artist and not part of The Clique, like
Freckled Factual Fractal Gail is.
:-)
Uni
Dan Campbell
> Uni <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in
> news:3E3487F1...@no.email.org:
>
>
>>You're ALWAY wrong!!!!!
>>
>
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
>
> This is better than the Super Bowl...oh well, half time is over.
>
>
No, it's not. The "PSP Clique" is whupping the "Troll Clique" worse
than the Buccaneers are beating the Raiders! Boring!!!!
Uni
Oh, and Donald, neither can this Campbell Soup dude!!!
Uni
Uni
>
> "Uni" <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in message
> news:3E329DA7...@no.email.org...
> >
> > Your images, while cute, don't impress me.
> > They look like you write, that is, poorly, with little to no pride.
> > If you require further explanation, just yell :-)
> >
>
> Well the sky's lifelike but the ocean looks rather pixellated (especially
> near the bottom right).
Well, I DID sharpen it with Paint Shop Pro, so blame the pixellation on
it!
Maybe Z' Man will fix it in version 8, whenever that MAY OCCUR!
Uni
>
> Stephen
Nightingail
Gail
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http://www.nightingail.com
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"Kris Zaklika" <kzak...@jasc.com> wrote in message
news:3E346440...@jasc.com...
Mike
jflad...@shaw.ca wrote on 1/26/03 9:40 AM:
> Absolutely. I have nothing to gain by being polite to liars.
You have only your self-respect to lose if you dip into the mud to play with
people that you think are liars.
What people think of you is irrelevant, what you think of yourself is what
is of value and what you have to lose by your actions.
":^) ®
At this point you can't go around writing that you are not rude to people
now can you.
":^) ®
Because you are rude if you think it is justified ... you are no better than
the "pup" when he uses the words he chooses to use.
You are no better than Uni, when he chooses to do the things in the
newsgroup that you don't like. You stoop to his level to show him how wrong
he is.
In my view that never works.
":^) ®
--
Mike
€ Logo Design €
Put some fun in your next logo!
Site at: http://www.artistmike.com
Mike
night...@yahoo.com wrote on 1/26/03 11:32 AM:
> "Mike" <mi...@artistmike.com> wrote in message
> news:BA5950DE.2DE5C%mi...@artistmike.com...
>> in article JVOY9.4477>
>>> Newbies and lurkers will form their own opinions of him
>> Each reader decides on the value to place on each message
>
>
> It wasn't my intention to 'decide' - I was just guessing as to what some
> people might or might not do. But you have a point. I tend to underestimate
> the sheer quantity of silly people in the world.
>
> If people decide to place
> value on the National Enquirer, Aurelians,or Rush Limbaugh, that would
> indeed be their decision to make ;-)
>
> Gail
Yes, indeed there are quite a few silly people in the world, and it seems
that many of them are attracted to me. I do get my share to play with.
Mike
jflad...@shaw.ca wrote on 1/26/03 3:45 PM:
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 00:17:36 +0100, "jbc" <j.ba...@home.nl> wrote:
>
>> Now I know you probably wrote this...
>
> [snip conjectural crap]
>
> Oh gosh, what *would* we do without the infallible Joske to tell us
> what is *really* going on? Just what is the source of this received
> wisdom that empowers you - and only you - to interpret what people
> mean? Seems to me that you see everything through the meanspirited
> focus of your own personal biases... but, unlike you, I could be
> wrong.
>
> Why am I beginning to suspect that you were a literature major, always
> sucking the joy out of reading by earnestly expounding on the author's
> "true" meaning?
It was just an opinion, Jackie. You really do get your olive drab panties
in a bunch real easy, don't you.
Mike
wrote on 1/26/03 6:48 PM:
> No, it's not. The "PSP Clique" is whupping the "Troll Clique" worse
> than the Buccaneers are beating the Raiders! Boring!!!!
Not according to the "Clique"... they think the newsgroup is "ruined" and
everyone of value is leaving.
"Chuckle ® " is a registered trademark of ArtistMike.com
So who are you going to believe? Them?
":^) ®
I on the other hand think the newsgroup is getting better and more to my
liking so who is "winning"?
Mike
campratty...@attbi.com wrote on 1/26/03 4:23 PM:
Excuse me... I just took off your "OT" on the thread. Continue on.
Mike
jflad...@shaw.ca wrote on 1/26/03 4:59 PM:
Just taking the "OT" off the topic.
Kris Zaklika
>
> You knew it was me? I guess this means the devil mask didn't work..
Next time avoid the fractal design on the mask :)
--
Ilya Razmanov
Fractalize? Are you sure Gail never treatened to RANDOMIZE you big time? She
keeps trying to do that to me. Worst thing, it is my own plugin she beats me
about the head with - ouch...
(Ilyich in a hurry tries to save a PRESET of himself, to recover after next
Gail's visit)
Ilyich.
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Ilya Razmanov (a.k.a. Ilyich the Toad)
http://photoshop.msk.ru/ - Photoshop plug-in filters
"Don't call me crazy! I'm just not user-friendly!"
- Roberto, Futurama
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Dan Campbell
To quote Mike (except for the last word, which I've modified):
You have only your self-respect to lose if you dip into the mud to play
with people that you think are [silly].
Mike
wrote on 1/27/03 11:08 AM:
> You have only your self-respect to lose if you dip into the mud to play
> with people that you think are [silly].
Playing with silly people is different than lowering myself to their level
in order to "teach them a lesson".
I don't care what silly people learn or don't learn. I just like to play
with them.
Stephen Stewart
> Stephen Stewart wrote:
> >
> > "Uni" <no.e...@no.email.org> wrote in message
> > news:3E329DA7...@no.email.org...
> > >
> > > Your images, while cute, don't impress me.
> > > They look like you write, that is, poorly, with little to no pride.
> > > If you require further explanation, just yell :-)
> > >
> >
> > Well the sky's lifelike but the ocean looks rather pixellated
(especially
> > near the bottom right).
>
> Well, I DID sharpen it with Paint Shop Pro, so blame the pixellation on
> it!
Ah that explains it, you don't know how to use the software.
You should have blurred it instead.
A bad workman blames his tools.
Stephen
Mike
a.non...@no.spam wrote on 1/27/03 12:40 PM:
> A bad workman blames his tools.
If the tool is not helping you do the job, find another tool.
Nightingail
news:b13p3o$41r$2...@netserv1.free.net...
> Fractalize? Are you sure Gail never treatened to RANDOMIZE you big time?
She
> keeps trying to do that to me. Worst thing, it is my own plugin she beats
me
> about the head with - ouch...
>
> (Ilyich in a hurry tries to save a PRESET of himself, to recover after
next
> Gail's visit)
<evil laughter> .. but Ilyich, that's just because your plugins make the
best weapons ;-)))