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Marnie Parker

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May 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/26/00
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I just joined the newsgroup. I am sure this has been asked before.

First, I have a lot of art experience, though I haven't really painted in about
15 years. But I am no graphic artist and have always felt overwhelmed by
computer drawing programs. I also find the mouse bulky and hard to use. It
doesn't feel directly connected to my hand the way a pencil or paintbrush does.


But finally I took this last month and studied on-line tutorials (thanks
everyone for doing those!) and have eventually figured out the basics of Paint
Shop Pro, which is a very, very complicated program. I still have a lot more to
learn, but feel I now know ten times more than I did.

However, these questions I have not found answered in any on-line tutorials.

1. Floodfill - I am trying to create bordered background, a border on one side,
white page on the rest. I create the border and use the floodfill tool to fill
the rest with white. Only sometimes there are lines in the white. These lines
ocassionally show up in IE and always show up in Netscape. Little dotted lines.
I have put all the settings on flood fill as high as they go.

How can I create a white background with no lines?

2. Text/Selected - I sometimes want to use a specific background for text. The
floodfill with pattern is not always what I want. I use text/selection for
those instances. (Yeah, I'm now clued into antialias). But when I use selection
instead of floating, it seems that I can't move the selection once it is on the
background. And I need to place it in certain spots, not always centered but
over certain areas of the background to later be cut out and pasted as a new
selection.

How can I align (move, etc.) text when I have chosen selection and not
floating?

BTW - Now that I know how to use PSP better, I am really enjoying getting back
into art and trying my hand at computer art (just web page graphics for now).

Thank you, Doe :-)


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Beth Winter

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May 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/26/00
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Marnie Parker wrote:
>
> I just joined the newsgroup. I am sure this has been asked before.
>
> First, I have a lot of art experience, though I haven't really painted in about
> 15 years. But I am no graphic artist and have always felt overwhelmed by
> computer drawing programs. I also find the mouse bulky and hard to use. It
> doesn't feel directly connected to my hand the way a pencil or paintbrush does.

You might find it worth the money to invest in a graphics tablet.
I know I'm thinking of one (I draw in pencil and ink as well as
CGI)

<snip>


> 1. Floodfill - I am trying to create bordered background, a border on one side,
> white page on the rest. I create the border and use the floodfill tool to fill
> the rest with white. Only sometimes there are lines in the white. These lines
> ocassionally show up in IE and always show up in Netscape. Little dotted lines.
> I have put all the settings on flood fill as high as they go.
>
> How can I create a white background with no lines?

New layer below the one with the border, fill it with white.
Should have no lines

> 2. Text/Selected - I sometimes want to use a specific background for text. The
> floodfill with pattern is not always what I want. I use text/selection for
> those instances. (Yeah, I'm now clued into antialias). But when I use selection
> instead of floating, it seems that I can't move the selection once it is on the
> background. And I need to place it in certain spots, not always centered but
> over certain areas of the background to later be cut out and pasted as a new
> selection.
>
> How can I align (move, etc.) text when I have chosen selection and not
> floating?

Just get any selection tool and drag it -- bear in mind that not
only the selection, but what's in it will move. A good idea is to
float the selection, move it, save to alpha channel, then delete
it and load selection from alpha channel

Btw, welcome to the newsgroup! :-)

--
Beth Winter

Marnie Parker

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May 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/26/00
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>Subject: Re: New User - Two Specific PSP Questions
>From: Beth Winter ren...@astercity.net
>Date: 5/26/00 12:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time

>Just get any selection tool and drag it -- bear in mind that not
>only the selection, but what's in it will move. A good idea is to
>float the selection, move it, save to alpha channel, then delete
>it and load selection from alpha channel
>
>Btw, welcome to the newsgroup! :-)
>
>--
>Beth Winter

Thanks! Prompt reply too!

Oh, phooey, now I have to learn about channels. Hehehehe.

Thanks again, Doe :-)

Ronald Vick

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May 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/26/00
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On 26 May 2000 19:32:59 GMT, doea...@aol.com (Marnie Parker) wrote:

>I just joined the newsgroup. I am sure this has been asked before.
>
>First, I have a lot of art experience, though I haven't really painted in about
>15 years. But I am no graphic artist and have always felt overwhelmed by
>computer drawing programs. I also find the mouse bulky and hard to use. It
>doesn't feel directly connected to my hand the way a pencil or paintbrush does.
>
>

>But finally I took this last month and studied on-line tutorials (thanks
>everyone for doing those!) and have eventually figured out the basics of Paint
>Shop Pro, which is a very, very complicated program. I still have a lot more to
>learn, but feel I now know ten times more than I did.
>
>However, these questions I have not found answered in any on-line tutorials.
>

>1. Floodfill - I am trying to create bordered background, a border on one side,
>white page on the rest. I create the border and use the floodfill tool to fill
>the rest with white. Only sometimes there are lines in the white. These lines
>ocassionally show up in IE and always show up in Netscape. Little dotted lines.
>I have put all the settings on flood fill as high as they go.
>
>How can I create a white background with no lines?

If you're saving the image as a JPG, those dots are the JPG artifice,
which occur around a sharp change in intensity. Once you save the
first time in JPG, those are put into the image and can only be
removed with much work. Re-Create your image, then save it in a
non-lossy format. GIF is normally used.

If you must use JPG, then use the File-Export-JPG to create as small
an image as possible, while keeping the artifices as un-objectional as
possible. Less compression = less visible dots, but bigger file size.

>2. Text/Selected - I sometimes want to use a specific background for text. The
>floodfill with pattern is not always what I want. I use text/selection for
>those instances. (Yeah, I'm now clued into antialias). But when I use selection
>instead of floating, it seems that I can't move the selection once it is on the
>background. And I need to place it in certain spots, not always centered but
>over certain areas of the background to later be cut out and pasted as a new
>selection.
>
>How can I align (move, etc.) text when I have chosen selection and not
>floating?

Selections are moved using the Move tool (four arrow icon), and RIGHT
clicking/dragging the selection.


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galewis

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May 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/26/00
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Marnie --

Another way you can accomplish your second task is to promote
the selected text to a new layer. Once you have the marching
ants around your text selection click on Selections | Promote to
Layer. Then you'll be able to move your text around without
affecting the background.

Grant

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Fred

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May 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/27/00
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I normally place my text on a new layer then I can move it as much as
possible with out worrying about it later when I do not like its placement.
At the end of the edit session (if I am complete) I merge all layers
(Flatten) and save my work. If I am not done I save it as .PSP file so I can
pick it all up later
"Marnie Parker" <doea...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> 2. Text/Selected - I sometimes want to use a specific background for text.
The
> floodfill with pattern is not always what I want. I use text/selection for
> those instances. (Yeah, I'm now clued into antialias). But when I use
selection
> instead of floating, it seems that I can't move the selection once it is
on the
> background. And I need to place it in certain spots, not always centered
but
> over certain areas of the background to later be cut out and pasted as a
new
> selection.
>
> How can I align (move, etc.) text when I have chosen selection and not
> floating?
>
> BTW - Now that I know how to use PSP better, I am really enjoying getting
back
> into art and trying my hand at computer art (just web page graphics for
now).
>
> Thank you, Doe :-)

Pam

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May 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/28/00
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For left borders backgrounds .I start with the border graphic itself.I use
the add borders instead of flood fill.,I put two or three narrow borders
in.I then change the background to light color or white. I set the borders
for 1200 pixels wide.
My last border will be the light part of the page.Now since the image is
wider then most monitors
the border tiles vertically only.


Also if you want you can do a pencil line art sketch of something then
scan it in with a scanner.
then you can use the paint tools in psp to color your image or art.work.
For actual drawing the mouse can be hard
many use graphics tablets instead for drawing they come with pens you can
use to draw.


gwynne

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