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logik

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Jun 1, 2001, 10:25:50 PM6/1/01
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hey all....
im trying to create an old feel to some b&w images of pictures of nurses
and soldiers. what im trying to do is bring colour into the
images....cheeks....lips eyes and clothes etc.I believe they used to use
water colours at the time to bring the photos to life (im talking about the
world war 2 years). so anyways i have a number of excellent images that i
wish to try to enhance using psp. im just wondering if there are any
tutorials to help me with it or any pages that anyone knows about that
contain example images of this colouring method. also im wondering if
there are any downloadable pallettes that may help me out with getting the
colours authentic. at the moment im just using the standard pallete in psp
with a couple of customized colours.

any help on this is apreciated....
thanks ...
logik

Jeanne Brynie

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Jun 1, 2001, 10:45:22 PM6/1/01
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A very good way to start would be to click on Effects/Artistic Effects/Aged
Newspaper or Effects/Artistic Effects/Sepia. Adjust the percentage to your
liking. You're right about the watercolor tinting. No color photography (for
the consumer at least) at that time. To add color, you might try using the
airbrush tool at a low opacity and low density and an appropriate brush size.
Step 1, Hardness 0 should work. I think it will look best if you use just a
hint of color rather than bright patches. It will be easier to work on your
image if you will first enlarge it by clicking on View/Zoom in by 1. Hope this
helps.

"*^*" Jeanne "*^*"

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amused.

Fugitive

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Jun 2, 2001, 1:19:41 AM6/2/01
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Layers, layers, layers, you should use layers, if you don't know how
yet, teach yourself, read, until it works for you, then dupe the
image, save to psp, and a skin layer, hair layer, shadow, lips, eyes,
these can be used to increase or lower opacity of each color you
choose, you do not have to do any color work on the
original(background)image. Practice. good luck.

Joop Pot

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Jun 2, 2001, 5:32:44 AM6/2/01
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hey..
This might be helpfull:
http://www.crosswinds.net/~gblr/tutorials/colorize.htm
good luck
Joop

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Porter

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Jun 2, 2001, 8:25:31 AM6/2/01
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Ember

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Jun 2, 2001, 4:41:59 PM6/2/01
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 05:19:41 GMT, Fugitive <greg...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>Layers, layers, layers, you should use layers, if you don't know how
>yet, teach yourself, read, until it works for you, then dupe the
>image, save to psp, and a skin layer, hair layer, shadow, lips, eyes,
>these can be used to increase or lower opacity of each color you
>choose, you do not have to do any color work on the
>original(background)image. Practice. good luck.
>
>

Can I tag on here Fugitive and ask you a follow-up? I have 40 years,
on and off, of B&W photos from my own darkroom and would like to
colourize a few of them. I've read 2 or 3 tutorials but they all seem
to skip steps or so it seems.

When I create different layers for body parts, from what layer or
image do I select them from?

My concern is that something might not get selected or get selected
twice. For example, I might select the eye area and then when
selecting the face, not come close enough to the eye and thus there is
a band around the eye that doesn't get into any layer. If I cut out
areas from the same image such that my original got reduced each time,
well that might work -- like taking newspaper clippings.

Anything you could say on the fundamentals of creating the layers
would be appreciated. It seems to me at this point it would be easier
not to create layers at all, just select areas and air brush them on
the original picture.

Ember

Fugitive

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Jun 2, 2001, 5:18:33 PM6/2/01
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Ember; what a nice name,oh, back to layers. Open the layers window and
keep it visible, I keep mine at bottom of screen, your image is open,
choose create layer, that done, it will be 100% transparent but it's
actually on 100% opacity. name it skin, color liberally with spray or
brush, color the whole damn face in like a kid would, now turn down
transparency to, say 50% where you can see the background image. Get
eraser out and erase lips hair, nose holes, whatever. Some people use
one color for face tones, well stick to that for now, I use more than
one, but it's more complicated and requires more layers. After you
clean up around the eyes and stuff, you can adjust the transp. to suit
you. Now create one for the eyes, and , hair, that's four including
the original, wouldn't go further for now unless you have a really
organized art mind and want to. Name each one. Click on a layer to
work on it and make sure the name is on the top of the window. Double
clk to change name. If you have more Q, email me.
greg


On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 20:41:59 GMT, Ember <REMe...@operamail.com>
wrote:

Bill Schnakenberg

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Jun 2, 2001, 5:40:14 PM6/2/01
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Ember wrote:

> On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 05:19:41 GMT, Fugitive <greg...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Layers, layers, layers, you should use layers, if you don't know how
> >yet, teach yourself, read, until it works for you, then dupe the
> >image, save to psp, and a skin layer, hair layer, shadow, lips, eyes,
> >these can be used to increase or lower opacity of each color you
> >choose, you do not have to do any color work on the
> >original(background)image. Practice. good luck.
> >
> >
>
> Can I tag on here Fugitive and ask you a follow-up? I have 40 years,
> on and off, of B&W photos from my own darkroom and would like to
> colourize a few of them. I've read 2 or 3 tutorials but they all seem
> to skip steps or so it seems.
>
> When I create different layers for body parts, from what layer or
> image do I select them from?
>
> My concern is that something might not get selected or get selected
> twice. For example, I might select the eye area and then when
> selecting the face, not come close enough to the eye and thus there is
> a band around the eye that doesn't get into any layer. If I cut out
> areas from the same image such that my original got reduced each time,
> well that might work -- like taking newspaper clippings.
>

You don't have to 'select' anything. You create a layer over the original
background image and paint on that. Like you were putting a piece of glass
over a portait and painting on the glass. Reduce the opacity of the color
layer so you can see the background image underneath.

>
> Anything you could say on the fundamentals of creating the layers
> would be appreciated. It seems to me at this point it would be easier
> not to create layers at all, just select areas and air brush them on
> the original picture.

Then you would have everything on one layer. How you gonna adjust each
color without adjusting the image too?
Just in case you didn't see my small tut on this, it is here:
http://www.frontiernet.net/~willshak/photocolor/index.html
You can skip the ship coloring and go down to the yearbook photo.

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co

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Jun 2, 2001, 7:34:03 PM6/2/01
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Bill Schnakenberg <will...@frontiernet.net> wrote in
<3B195D3E...@frontiernet.net>:

If you want to use Effects/Enhance Photo/Manual Color Correction, you have
to have something on the layer on which you're applying the correction,
don't you? I just recently started experimenting with coloring black and
white photographs, and I make a copy of the background layer and work on
it, selecting the areas I want to apply skintones (for example). They
usuually are too vivid, so I vary the opacity of that layer until it
appears suitable. I save all my selections to alpha channel so I can reload
them if I need to change colors, brightness, etc. As long as you have an
area selected, any adjustments should just apply to that area.

Making the selections is the most time-consuming part, but once you have
then made and saved, you can re-apply them in the event you want/need to
start over. Just be sure that you don't destroy the image you had been
working on, because you will lose the alpha channel--the alternative is to
save your selections to disk.

As for making the selections, start with the Selection tool, set to Smart
Edge. Once you had a rough outline, then you can zoom in on the image
and fine tune it using either the Selection tool set to Freehand or the
Magic Wand in conjunction with the Shift (Add) and Ctrl (Subtract) keys.

I've been working on a group photo eight people outside their house, and
I'm quite pleased with the results I'm seeing. I'm also surprised that it
is taking much less time that I thought it would.

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logik

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Jun 2, 2001, 11:32:42 PM6/2/01
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just wanted to thank you all for your advise and links. with your help im
definatelly on the right track.

cheers....
logik

Doug Nelson

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Jun 3, 2001, 3:56:28 AM6/3/01
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logik <nom...@world.com> wrote in
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Many examples with step-by-step descriptions (some in PSP, some not) at
http://www.retouchpro.com/challenge/restoration/challenge3/index.html

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Ember

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Jun 3, 2001, 7:26:21 PM6/3/01
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Thanks for the 2 useful replies. Am working on it but had to replace
my hot water tank this weekend :-)
Ember (sorry, not a lady)!
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