OT: plane crashed into World Trade Center in NYC
Bill Schnakenberg
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>
> A small plane just crashed into the WTC
> See it on CNN
Initial reports said a small plane. Now they're saying it was a 737.
Another plane just crashed into the second building. It looks like a
suicide terrorist act.
Michelle
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>Date: 09/11/2001 8:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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>
>A small plane just crashed into the WTC
>See it on CNN
>
I'm watching it now Bill. I still can't believe this is happening. My friends
father worked in the building when it was bombed and I'm not sure if he's
retired since then. I hope so. I still can't believe I'm seeing this on TV.
Its surreal :(
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Susanne Hackbarth
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> A small plane just crashed into the WTC
> See it on CNN
>
reported on it's way somewhere? They didn't know where then all of a sudden
the Pentagon was attacked. Let's pray that was the 3rd plane and there are
no more!
Susanne in So. California
Karen Rodgers
No such luck, it was the Pentagon.
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now is - prayers to all involved..
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Sally Beacham
Another large plane just crashed in Western PA, don't know if it's
related...
Please, no more.
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Rodgers) wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:03:41 GMT, "Susanne Hackbarth"
><susa...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>
>>"Bill Schnakenberg" <will...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>>news:3B9E0906...@frontiernet.net...
>>> A small plane just crashed into the WTC
>>> See it on CNN
>>>
>>I had been watching Channel 5 out of NY when they announced a 3rd plane was
>>reported on it's way somewhere? They didn't know where then all of a sudden
>>the Pentagon was attacked. Let's pray that was the 3rd plane and there are
>>no more!
>
>No such luck, it was the Pentagon.
I live about five miles from the Pantagon and my wide works in DC,
just a few blocks from the Capitol. Now, she has to get home and she
normally takes the subway to the Pentagon and a bus from there. I'll
be surprised if she gets home in under two hours.
co
Jeanne Brynie
series of events. San Antonio city dept heads all present at emergency
operations center, special mass at noon at the cathedral, air base closed, no
flights out as in the whole country.....everyone in the whole country and for
that matter the entire world is affected by this one.
"*^*" Jeanne "*^*"
Fugitive
grounded. They said there are 10,000 people in each building. This is
a hundred times worse that Oklahoma City.
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:52:22 -0400, Bill Schnakenberg
<will...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>A small plane just crashed into the WTC
>See it on CNN
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Ronald Vick
Looks like a deliberate act when TWO planes fly into a building..
This could start a war.
Ron
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> and my wide works in DC,
She probably wouldn't appreciate that typo :). Not that she is.
Cliff
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Fugitive
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:52:22 -0400, Bill Schnakenberg
<will...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>A small plane just crashed into the WTC
>See it on CNN
Tvveets
area is ok, still waiting to hear about sister-in-law who works for United.
She was enroute to Newark and got re-routed to Philly. She's alive. .
.landed and stranded. Still haven't heard squat about other friends who
work in the area of the Trade Center : (. . .may God be with us all.
My heart goes out to all families involved.
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trev
> See it on CNN
>
to your Nation
Matt
> See it on CNN
>
I turned on CNN and thought I was watching something from a movie. :(
Nuke the basturds that did this.
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Hey Matt,
As sad, shocked, dismayed, frightened and outraged as we all must be -
two wrongs still don't make a right. Innocent people die in acts of mass
destruction. Let's be calm and seek justice, not retribution.
Sally
p.s. The bastards could be us.
Fugitive
and you know what that started. There are many thousands in those
buildings. Pray for us
Ronald Vick
Just as long as she gets home safely.
Ron
Birmingham Bob
> I heard it was a 767. One of the towers collapsed. All planes in US
> grounded. They said there are 10,000 people in each building. This is
> a hundred times worse that Oklahoma City.
Both towers have now collapsed. Reports say 50,000 people worked in the two
buildings. It's not sure how many were able to evacuate.
A third passenger plane hit the Pentagon, destroying two floors in the south
west wing.
A fourth plane crashed in Pennsylvania, it was also reported as hijacked.
Some speculation it was shot down but no one is sure.
Two were American flights, two United, all bound for California. (3 LAX and
1 San Francisco). LAX has been ordered closed. Approximately 225 folks were
on board the four planes.
Likewise, the Capital and White House and other official government
buildings have all been closed and evacuated in Washington, DC. All area
museums have also been closed.
A major gas leak at the site of the trade center collapse is now causing a
major threat. The lower half of Manhattan has been ordered evacuated.
Birmingham Bob
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"Birmingham Bob" <n4...@arrl.net> wrote in message
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>>I live about five miles from the Pantagon and my wide works in DC,
>>just a few blocks from the Capitol. Now, she has to get home and she
>>normally takes the subway to the Pentagon and a bus from there. I'll
>>be surprised if she gets home in under two hours.
>>co
>>
>>baseb...@hotmail.com
>
>Just as long as she gets home safely.
Thank you, Ron, I'm sure she will, but I grossly underestimated the
time it will take. I figured she'd just take the northern subway line
into Virginia, but I neglected to take into account that that line has
to go through the Pentagon to get to our area.
Cliff
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>On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:10:12 GMT, Ronald Vick <Ron...@cfl.rr.com>
>wrote:
>>Just as long as she gets home safely.
>
>Thank you, Ron, I'm sure she will, but I grossly underestimated the
>time it will take. I figured she'd just take the northern subway line
>into Virginia, but I neglected to take into account that that line has
>to go through the Pentagon to get to our area.
She got home, safe and sound. It took four hours (20 minutes to
drive)--subway to bus to subway to bus. Now, I've got to go see
whether there is anything left in the grocery store (or whether
everyone is stockpiling goods in panic)--today being shopping day.
Thanks to everyone who enquired,
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Cliff
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Susanne Hackbarth
> drive)--subway to bus to subway to bus. Now, I've got to go see
> whether there is anything left in the grocery store (or whether
> everyone is stockpiling goods in panic)--today being shopping day.
>
> Thanks to everyone who enquired,
Cliff, happy to hear your wife is home.
Susanne
Bill Schnakenberg
>
> "Fugitive" <gregfar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> > I heard it was a 767. One of the towers collapsed. All planes in US
> > grounded. They said there are 10,000 people in each building. This is
> > a hundred times worse that Oklahoma City.
>
> Both towers have now collapsed. Reports say 50,000 people worked in the two
> buildings. It's not sure how many were able to evacuate.
>
> A third passenger plane hit the Pentagon, destroying two floors in the south
> west wing.
>
> A fourth plane crashed in Pennsylvania, it was also reported as hijacked.
> Some speculation it was shot down but no one is sure.
>
> Two were American flights, two United, all bound for California. (3 LAX and
> 1 San Francisco). LAX has been ordered closed. Approximately 225 folks were
> on board the four planes.
They picked planes that had the most fuel on board to do the most
damage.
>
> Likewise, the Capital and White House and other official government
> buildings have all been closed and evacuated in Washington, DC. All area
> museums have also been closed.
>
> A major gas leak at the site of the trade center collapse is now causing a
> major threat. The lower half of Manhattan has been ordered evacuated.
>
> Birmingham Bob
Mike
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Pearl Harbor was a Military Strike, albeit a terrorist like one. We will
mett out retribution, Bush can't afford to look weak, but it won't be a war
against a nation, unless it was SoDamn Insane over in Iraq.
We've struck back at terroists several times with out going to war with a
nation.
Angela M. Cable
> Hey Matt,
>
> As sad, shocked, dismayed, frightened and outraged as we all must be -
> two wrongs still don't make a right. Innocent people die in acts of mass
> destruction. Let's be calm and seek justice, not retribution.
You're thinking that this is an act of terrorism...it's not, it's an act
of war...new rules. The Taliban has been covering bin Laden's ass for
far too long, the entire world has been putting up with that psycho
Saddam for years. When the FBI figures out who did it, we need to bomb
them, quickly and without notice, doing nothing simply invites further
attacks, we have a right to defend the safety of our citizens.
Personally, I think the FBI all ready knows who's responsible, what the
news is reporting as both the cell phone call from the woman in the
lavatory and the call made by the American airlines flight attendant
can't possibly be complete.
> p.s. The bastards could be us.
I'd be pretty surprised if it turned out to be some redneck neo-nazi
group, you'd need a minimum of four suicidal psychos with the ability to
pilot a commercial airliner, I'd guess that you'd actually send more
like eight, four groups of two pairs. You'd want a back-up pilot in the
event that somebody on the plane cowboyed up and managed to take out one
of the psychos. Even McVeigh wasn't committed enough to his "cause" to
die in the explosion and he only managed to rustle up one other
conspirator. One in each group would have *had* to have something like
a Glock either on their person or in their carry on, in the unlikely
chance that the minimum-wage person running the x-ray machine actually
noticed the gun, the second of the pair could report back that they'd
been discovered. I would bet real money that there were at least two
more "teams" ready to board at different airports in the event that one
group got discovered. This is much too sophisticated an operation for
your garden-variety nut.
Just heard on the news, they're calling for type O and anybody who's Rh
negative...if you know your blood type, call up the local Red Cross and
see if they're taking donations yet. I'm A-, gotta find my phone book
in this mess :-)
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You can't do something like this and hope to get by with it. There is
going to be hell to pay. I was just thinkin the other day that we were
luckyer than Israel because we don't have all those bombers. I am very
sad with this. You know if they can do this, they can get a nuke into
NYC too.
greg
Greg Kamer
> I'd be pretty surprised if it turned out to be some redneck neo-nazi
> group, you'd need a minimum of four suicidal psychos with the ability to
> pilot a commercial airliner, I'd guess that you'd actually send more
> like eight, four groups of two pairs. You'd want a back-up pilot in the
> event that somebody on the plane cowboyed up and managed to take out one
> of the psychos. Even McVeigh wasn't committed enough to his "cause" to
> die in the explosion and he only managed to rustle up one other
> conspirator. One in each group would have *had* to have something like
> a Glock either on their person or in their carry on, in the unlikely
> chance that the minimum-wage person running the x-ray machine actually
> noticed the gun, the second of the pair could report back that they'd
> been discovered. I would bet real money that there were at least two
> more "teams" ready to board at different airports in the event that one
> group got discovered. This is much too sophisticated an operation for
> your garden-variety nut.
I agree.... None of our home grown neo-nazi militia nutcases have the
dedication to take themselves out along with their targets...
This was some middle eastern terrorists. bin Laden is the one that pops into
my mind as being carzy enough to go these lenghts.
What surprises me is our intell community claims to have had no knowledge
beforehand that something like this was in the works....
I'm also wondering about the airlines that were chosen. American and United?
I wonder if there is not some symbolisim in their names alone?
Mike
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> Can you imagine the paybacks, that could start as early as tonight.
> You can't do something like this and hope to get by with it. There is
> going to be hell to pay. I was just thinkin the other day that we were
> luckyer than Israel because we don't have all those bombers. I am very
> sad with this. You know if they can do this, they can get a nuke into
> NYC too.
We're not as nice as Israel is either. Yes Israel strikes back, but not to
the degree that we do. If Israel struck back at their attackers like we do,
then the incidents over there wouldn't be as close.
Matt
>
> As sad, shocked, dismayed, frightened and outraged as we all must be -
> two wrongs still don't make a right. Innocent people die in acts of mass
> destruction. Let's be calm and seek justice, not retribution.
I know two wrongs don't make a right, but these people don't understand
anything but force(and yes nuke is overkill). And like Angela said this
getting to be more than just 'simple' terrorism.
Birmingham Bob
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> This was some middle eastern terrorists. bin Laden is the one that pops
into
> my mind as being carzy enough to go these lenghts.
FBI/CIA is moving quickly. Reports on Fox/Cnn say they hijackers were all
arabic. Vehicles sized in the parking lots of the airports show islamic
writings, airlines manuals written in islamic, and one even had a pic of Bin
Lauden.
Shortly after the incidents, the NSA intercepted cell phone calls between
known Bin Lauden supporters congratulating each other on the days work.
It's looking more and more like Bin Lauden is the AIQ.
> What surprises me is our intell community claims to have had no knowledge
> beforehand that something like this was in the works....
Reports say they had indications something big was going to happen, but
that's the most specific thing I've heard on that matter so far.
> I'm also wondering about the airlines that were chosen. American and
United?
> I wonder if there is not some symbolisim in their names alone?
Very well could be, haven't heard that angle before.
Kris Zaklika
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> "Greg Kamer" <n...@spam.invalid.com> wrote in message
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> > This was some middle eastern terrorists. bin Laden is the one that pops
> into
> > my mind as being carzy enough to go these lenghts.
>
> FBI/CIA is moving quickly. Reports on Fox/Cnn say they hijackers were all
> arabic. Vehicles sized in the parking lots of the airports show islamic
> writings, airlines manuals written in islamic, and one even had a pic of Bin
> Lauden.
I don't think there is an "islamic" language. Islam is a
religion. Arabic is a language - that of the Koran - perhaps
this is what you mean.
>
> Shortly after the incidents, the NSA intercepted cell phone calls between
> known Bin Lauden supporters congratulating each other on the days work.
>
> It's looking more and more like Bin Lauden is the AIQ.
>
> > What surprises me is our intell community claims to have had no knowledge
> > beforehand that something like this was in the works....
>
> Reports say they had indications something big was going to happen, but
> that's the most specific thing I've heard on that matter so far.
>
> > I'm also wondering about the airlines that were chosen. American and
> United?
> > I wonder if there is not some symbolisim in their names alone?
>
> Very well could be, haven't heard that angle before.
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Birmingham Bob
"Kris Zaklika" <kzak...@jasc.com> wrote in message
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> > FBI/CIA is moving quickly. Reports on Fox/Cnn say they hijackers were
all
> > arabic. Vehicles sized in the parking lots of the airports show islamic
> > writings, airlines manuals written in islamic, and one even had a pic of
Bin
> > Lauden.
>
> I don't think there is an "islamic" language. Islam is a
> religion. Arabic is a language - that of the Koran - perhaps
> this is what you mean.
I was typing rather quickly at the time, basically repeating what I heard on
TV/Radio. When they said Islamic writings, I assumed they meant writings
about Islam.
Birmingham Bob
