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Anthony Lisanti

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Jun 12, 2008, 7:12:42 AM6/12/08
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Maybe my cable company has garbage content, but there's nothing in
this group buy junk posts. Anyone else happen to be in NJ with
Optonline?

Optonline's news groups really suck!

David McCall

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Jun 12, 2008, 1:18:11 PM6/12/08
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"Anthony Lisanti" <ajli...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Dead is a little strong, but it isn't very active.

For some reason most of the people thar frequented this group
have moved on for whatever reason. Maybe the SPAM chased them off.

At any rate, I think there may still be active web based forumns.
I just haven't gotten into that rehlm.

Some of us do still check this group just in case something comes up.

David


Chilla

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Jun 15, 2008, 9:20:51 PM6/15/08
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Is this group dead.... Nooooooooooo :-D

Mark Dunakin

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Jul 12, 2008, 5:40:24 PM7/12/08
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Looks like it for sure LOL
I check in about once a month, and 99% of the time, there are just a
few posts and most if not all are always just spam and porn ads or
something else.
To THIS DAY, I still get emails from former members of this forum who
want to
know where all the good olden day LWers went to and are at now?
Sadly, I have no clue anymore?
It's like everyone scattered to the four winds as you can only find a
few in SpinQuad, a few at
Renderosity, and a few at CG Talk, which I won't even go near that scum
place, and a great portion of
the LWers that email me, have bad things to say about CG Talk as well,
so really, I don't know where
everyone meets, at least the decent LWers, not the kiddies fight sites,
like NewTek's own forums are like.
And most of the oldies from here aren't at the NewTek forums anyway, so
I really
don't know what to tell people when they email me on the subject?
Sometimes makes me want to start up my own LW forums site and make it
for only people
who want to talk LW and not argue and fight or over moderate to the
point that no one ends
up wanting to come there anymore, like what ended up happening at the CG
Talk place.
Remember, it used to be a great place to go, but somewhere along the way,
it seemed to have been slowly overtaken by power trip people.
Sad.

Nice to see you two here that I still know :)

..........................md :)


Chilla wrote:
> Is this group dead.... Nooooooooooo :-D
>

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Kevin F Stubbs

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Jul 13, 2008, 5:19:06 AM7/13/08
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I still check in here from time to time but I've been away from LWing
and 3D in general for most of this year due to personal circumstances.
As you say Mark, nice to see a few familiar names still floating around :-)

Cheers

Kevin F Stubbs
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David McCall

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Jul 13, 2008, 9:49:40 AM7/13/08
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"Kevin F Stubbs" <kevin_f...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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It is ashame that this site is so unused.
I think there are some that still monitor it.

Wher has everybody gone?

David


Kevin Gleeson

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Jul 13, 2008, 10:21:21 AM7/13/08
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We's hidin' in the woods . . .

Actually got a job through today that will probably have me drag
Lightwave out again as I'll be doing it from home.

Still serial dongled LW6.5 though :-)

Mark Dunakin

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Sep 3, 2008, 7:29:45 PM9/3/08
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It does look like it's been for some time now, pretty much just us few here
and that seems to be about where things have stayed at for the longest time?

................................................md :)

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Matthew

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Sep 5, 2008, 7:47:14 AM9/5/08
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I was starting to think all the chickens had flown this chicken coop.

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David McCall

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Sep 5, 2008, 9:17:17 AM9/5/08
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Not much happens here anymore.
Even the spamers don't bother with this site anymore.

There still seem to be a few of us that check the site for messages
(Hi Mark :-)

Verizon has dropped all binaries so I don't ever see that one anymore.

I'm trying to learn AutoCAD for my theater work. It is going very slowly.
I need to be more compatible with other people in the Biz, plus I bought
some really neat software that is integrated into Acad that is designed
for theatrical lighting. Once you have your scene lit with the IES lights
you can create all of your lighting cues within the software, or you can
hook up the lighting console to the computer and create the show on the
console. In addition it produces all of the paperwork that list all of the
circuits, channels, gel list etc. The catch is that you have to learn Acad
first :-(
http://ldassistant.com/
I much prefer working in Lightwave and will still use it for everything
else.


David

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Kevin Gleeson

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Sep 5, 2008, 7:58:43 PM9/5/08
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I'm mainly using 3DS Max now but will still model in LW to a point
where I need to import the model for Max's stack to operate properly.
Our lead animator is the same. Everyone else just usees Max solely.
The last couple of years our projects have been done in Flash, so my
3D work at the moment is next to nil.

We tend to pick the app that is appropriate for the look the producers
are aiming at. We've written tools for Flash that are being sold
around the world.

I'd like to go back to a 3D project. I'm getting bored just editing
and compositing.


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Graeme Bell

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Oct 10, 2008, 8:47:04 PM10/10/08
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"David McCall" <mccal...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Hope not. I just got here.

Graeme

Mark Dunakin

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Oct 25, 2008, 8:43:24 PM10/25/08
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David McCall wrote:
> Not much happens here anymore.
> Even the spamers don't bother with this site anymore.
>
> There still seem to be a few of us that check the site for messages
> (Hi Mark :-)
>
Yep, I'm still here :)
I check in about twice a month.
And I agree that at least the spammers have mostly vanished, and for me,
this makes me feel people will want to come here more when they don't
have to wade through a ton of crap.
But hey, us few, it's cool.

> Verizon has dropped all binaries so I don't ever see that one anymore.
>
> I'm trying to learn AutoCAD for my theater work. It is going very slowly.
> I need to be more compatible with other people in the Biz, plus I bought
> some really neat software that is integrated into Acad that is designed
> for theatrical lighting. Once you have your scene lit with the IES lights
> you can create all of your lighting cues within the software, or you can
> hook up the lighting console to the computer and create the show on the
> console. In addition it produces all of the paperwork that list all of the
> circuits, channels, gel list etc. The catch is that you have to learn Acad
> first :-(
>
Wow, that all DOES sound really cool though!
Would love to see that in real action.

> http://ldassistant.com/
> I much prefer working in Lightwave and will still use it for everything
> else.
>
And yeah, I'm really starting to get back into LW again after a very
very long time away from it and am loving the new lighting types and
like that.
Still haven't bothered to look into the FiberFX stuff much at all, other
then when it first came out way
back in beta, but that was a long time back and it's far better now, so
I need to look into that again soon.
Trying to finish the beta with a certain other program though and thats
been using up all my time.

.............................md :)

Ma3rk

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Oct 28, 2008, 8:34:50 PM10/28/08
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I still keep track of this NG as well.  I'm still not overly fond of the forum method of getting information or help. 

I'm still kicking the tires with LW 9.5.  I know there's a 9.5.1 out in beta but I don't feel like dealing with that particularly.  Even so, I immediately crashed it trying to use the new FiberFX with a nodally applied weight map.  It worked until I tried to make any adjustment, then BooEEP, no Layout.  Oh well, plenty of other features to get up to speed with.

I too have recently been exploring other CAD type programs specifically for set lighting previz applications, but for motion picture work (at some point anyway).  My union has a couple dozen fully enabled educational versions of VectorWorks 2008 so I've been studying that past few months.  It's very powerful and has a lot of features that are pretty slick, but in the final analysis I wasn't all that impressed with their render engine.  Creating fly-thrus in VW was painful too, to say the least.  I'm able to export geometry & textures out to Lightwave though.  There's a bit of clean-up to do as the format creates tris rather than quads and some surface attributes need tweeks.  I had to run a series of tests to figure out the scaling options so it would translate accurately, but once I understood the options combo it all worked out.

With LW 9.5 finally getting Photometric lights, along with some pretty powerful tool additions from WTools3D with LWCad, I decided to hold off making the VectorWorks purchase.  VW tools for instrument management has some quirks to work out which I'm sure will happen, but much of it didn't seem that well suited anyway to how a film set is lit vs. a stage or concert venue.  LWCad handles doors & windows quite well, but doesn't have the parametric options to customize.  LWCad does handle roofs better than VW on complex shapes, as well as the tiling feature.  Overall, I'm able to create much cleaner geometry in LW I feel, but you don't have the 2D and document management tools that you do in a true CAD application. 

I'd like to find some specific tools for playing around more with photometric lights.  I've gotten some of the ERCO files to play with but didn't find any geometry files.  I also found a test scene or two on one of the forums to fiddle with.

What I haven't found is a way to edit or otherwise create an IES file.  I know it's a simple text file or spreadsheet file, but I haven't found anywhere online that describes the format or variables.  I suppose if I was really ambitious I might find such a set of tools, but nothing obvious came up on some basic searches.

Later guys,

M.

Hn

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Oct 28, 2008, 10:14:17 PM10/28/08
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Ma3rk wrote:
> I still keep track of this NG as well. I'm still not overly fond of the
> forum method of getting information or help.
>
> I'm still kicking the tires with LW 9.5. I know there's a 9.5.1 out in
> beta but I don't feel like dealing with that particularly. Even so, I
> immediately crashed it trying to use the new FiberFX with a nodally
> applied weight map. It worked until I tried to make any adjustment,
> then BooEEP, no Layout. Oh well, plenty of other features to get up to
> speed with.

FiberFX is much more stable in later builds, 9.5.1 in general is worth
playing with.

David McCall

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Oct 29, 2008, 11:08:44 AM10/29/08
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See if this whets your wistle.
http://www.ldassistant.com/

It is specifically designed to do exactly what you want to do.

There are 2 versions.
One is a plug-in for Autocad 8
And the other version has it built into an OEM version of Autocad 8
for $2500 you get a version of Autocad that suposedly has everything we
might need plus the LDA features.

It does most any schedule you might want down to cable runs if you like
and you can build light cues right in the software.
It has full visualization with photometric lights (including movers)

One of the coolest parts is that you can connect your lighting console to
the computer
and create your whole show.

I own it but haven't gotten my head around Autocad yet so I can't speak from
experiance.

If you buy it mention my name :-)

LDI is coming up (or has just happened) so there may be an LDI special price
available.

After writing all of this I realized that I said most of this in the earlier
post.
Oh well, here it is again.

David


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