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BluesFlooz

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Jan 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/8/99
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I created a duplicate font folder when I wanted to back up my fonts to our
network server. But now, if I try to delete any fonts from the duplicate
folder, it deletes the font from my real font folder. How do I get rid of this
duplicate folder? It's taking up a lot of HD space.

Thanks!!

"Yield to temptation...the opportunity may never pass your way again" --Robert
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jwh...@ix.netcom.com

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I assume your network is running Win NT. I run Win 95 on my computer,
and it will do the same thing you are describing. It has to do with the
way the operating system manages fonts. I had a duplicate font file on
another hard drive on my system. Guess what. When I decided to free
up some HD space, the file had about 800 fonts in it, I deleted the
back-up font file, and the parent file on the main hard drive lost the
identical fonts. I even tried to hide the backup file in a subdirectory
without the word "font" in it. I think the system looks in every file
for a font extension, you know, .ttf, .shx, etc... I've tried to
contact Microsoft about this, due to the inconvenience of this, but they
have yet to respond. My advice would be to back-up the fonts to an
external source before you delete, CD-R, ZIP or superdisk. That's the
only way you can be certain.

Once you back-up your main folder off of the system, you can get rid of
the duplicate folder. You can also try moving the contents of the
duplicate folder to the main font folder using "CUT" and "Paste". The
entire contents will then "Paste" over the existing fonts. Duplicates
will prompt you, asking to replace or ignore. Try ignore all, only fonts
not duplicated will paste. Good luck, and let me know how it works for
you on a network. Last time I tried removing duplicate fonts, I ended
up rebuilding my system.

Lorenz

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Jan 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/8/99
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hi,
i have had the same problem- simply use a zip or jaz drive... thats
the way i solved the problem.
cu
Lorenz
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Thomas Ferguson

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Jan 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/8/99
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Devilishly subtle problem, eh what?

Try this-
1. Back up system.dat and user.dat (hidden files in \windows).
2. Check the duplicate folder's attributes. Assure that the system, s
attribute is set off.
3. Delete the folder and its contents. Make sure you have the actual font
files available in another location.
3. Start Regedit.exe and open the \shell folder key by clicking on each +
in turn
HKEY_CURRINT_USERS\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell
Folders
4. Check the entry for fonts. It should be "c:\windows\fonts"
Contrary to the sig file, do _not_ yield to the temptation of trying another
path unless you like subtle problems to solve. :-)
5. Change it if it is different ... and it probably will be. {Edit Modify
Don't type in the quotes}.
6. Close Regedit.
7. Restart Windows.

Suggestion: If you want a backup font file "on-line", create a folder which
is not a subdirectory of c:\windows or c:\windows\fonts. It can include
fonts in the name: c:\ttfonts, for example. To copy files to it, open the
source folder and highlight the files; then, carry out the operation - do
not drag/drop the fonts folder.

Good luck.
-Tom

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Louis Vosloo

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Jan 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/9/99
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BluesFlooz wrote:

> I created a duplicate font folder when I wanted to back up my fonts to our
> network server. But now, if I try to delete any fonts from the duplicate
> folder, it deletes the font from my real font folder. How do I get rid of this
> duplicate folder? It's taking up a lot of HD space.

How did you create the "duplicate folder"? By dragging and dropping?
For example, what it shows you is not at all the set of files in that folder,
but registry entries for fonts. Which may very well point to the new place.
It is possible that what you did was move the font files to another place
instead of copying them.

Which means there is actually only one copy of the fonts (perhaps)
and when you uninstall those you loose all fonts (perhaps).
If you want to create a real duplicate for backup purposes you may need
to drop into a command prompt and use the COPY command to bypass
the cleverness of the active folder.


Darren Mackay

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Jan 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/9/99
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|I created a duplicate font folder when I wanted to back up my fonts
|to our network server. But now, if I try to delete any fonts from
|the duplicate folder, it deletes the font from my real font folder.
|How do I get rid of this duplicate folder? It's taking up a lot of
|HD space.

Your problem is related to the fact that you local font folder is linked to
an object type, being a font folder object. When using explorer to copy your
font folder, windows assumes that you want to shift or mirror your font
folder. You can get around this by simply opening up a DOS box, and using
the command line xcopy cmmmand to copy your fonts to another folder, either
to your network, or just to another folder on your drive.

Hope this has been some help

Darren

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Thomas Ferguson

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Jan 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/9/99
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Darren Mackay wrote in message <777m7j$sk0$1...@bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au>...

>|I created a duplicate font folder when I wanted to back up my fonts
>|to our network server. But now, if I try to delete any fonts from
>|the duplicate folder, it deletes the font from my real font folder.
>|How do I get rid of this duplicate folder? It's taking up a lot of
>|HD space.
>
>Your problem is related to the fact that you local font folder is linked to
>an object type, being a font folder object. When using explorer to copy
your
>font folder, windows assumes that you want to shift or mirror your font
>folder. You can get around this by simply opening up a DOS box, and using
>the command line xcopy cmmmand to copy your fonts to another folder, either
>to your network, or just to another folder on your drive.
>
>Hope this has been some help
>
>Darren
>


Your suggestion about using DOS and xcopy to create duplicate font files for
backup is a good one. It avoids some of the possible missteps in using
Windows Explorer. To amplify the reason if I may.

Try this rather standard operation-
Open Windows Explorer. Choose an actual font in \windows\fonts, not a
shotcut. Higlight it. Press Ctrl and then drag it with the mouse to another
folder (c:\temp, for example). This will copy the file to the other folder,
of course. Now, delete the file from c:\windows\fonts. It will remain in
c:\temp. Similarly, deleting from c:\temp will leave the file in
c:\windows\fonts. So Windows Explorer can be used for font operations
without creating problems with special folders. Just remember not to copy or
move the folder, itself.

-Tom

Leanne Riding

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Jan 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/9/99
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I'm on Win95, and never had that problem, although I have had some problems. So it
must only happen in certain situations.
Most of my fonts are currently stored neatly in their own file folders, and when I
want to install them I just put a shortcut to the font into the main font folder.
This hasn't caused me any problems.

BluesFlooz wrote:

> I created a duplicate font folder when I wanted to back up my fonts to our
> network server. But now, if I try to delete any fonts from the duplicate
> folder, it deletes the font from my real font folder. How do I get rid of this
> duplicate folder? It's taking up a lot of HD space.
>

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