Received: by 10.204.131.75 with SMTP id w11mr60327bks.0.1330526181753; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 06:36:21 -0800 (PST) Path: t13ni83708bkb.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!news.glorb.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!newsfeed-00.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!not-for-mail From: Peter Davis Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs Subject: Re: emacs modernization, 2012 Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:36:19 -0500 Organization: The MathWorks, Inc. Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <684911db-0e53-4c34-9c4e-5ca9fd18a244@f4g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ah-pdavis.dhcp.mathworks.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: newscl01ah.mathworks.com 1330526179 18991 144.212.116.92 (29 Feb 2012 14:36:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@mathworks.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:36:19 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 2/28/2012 9:47 PM, Xah Lee wrote: > On Feb 28, 9:03 am, Peter Davis wrote: >> On 2/28/2012 11:35 AM, Dan Espen wrote: >> >> >> >>> Ever hear of ergo-emacs? >>> That's Xah's presentation. >>> I think he has more than a few users. >> >> I looked at the ErgoEmacs pages a bit. I can see a good case for why >> Notepad users should switch. I didn't see a compelling reason why >> existing proficient Emacs users would want to switch to this. >> >> There's also Aquamacs on the Mac ... a pretty good attempt (IMO) to >> integrate Emacs with Mac UI conventions. > > hi Peter, > > the key is to get FSF GNU Emacs to endorse, adopt, this. > > else, it's just third party mod, and ZXCV always come with stigma in > the emacs culture. Would this be as simple as including some additional code with a typical emacs installation, and perhaps having a command line argument to open emacs in "ergo-mode" as opposed to a default? What else would you expect FSF to do? -pd