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Kevin Lynch

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Dec 15, 2000, 3:09:03 PM12/15/00
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Hi folks,

Have any of you been able to get DSL and a dialup connection working
simultaneously, running NT 4.0?

I use dial up to connect to the network of a major client and just got a
DSL connection - Ethernet Lan card connected to a DSL modem. DSL access
is nice and fast for internet browsing, but when I connect to the
client, not only do I lose my DSL connection, but I cant access the
client's exchange server. I can map drives on the client's network with
no problem, but I cant run MS Exchange, with a server on the client
network.

Both the DSL and client connections use DHCP with DNS assigned by the
server. I'm not sure if having DNS on seperate connections is an issue
or if the client's DNS overides the ISP's DNS when I attach, or if there
are any particular issues using mail.

Ideally what I would like to do is use DSL connection with Netscape for
web browsing and general email and use the dialup connection for
mounting drives in client network and running MS Exchange on client's
network. I havent been able to figure out how these applications bind to

particular adaptors (DUN or DSL via Ethernet), since they all use
TCP/IP.

Any advice would be much appreciated

Kevin

wa...@my-deja.com

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Dec 15, 2000, 5:32:25 PM12/15/00
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After contecting to the dialup:

Are you able to ping an IP address of a systems on the DU network?

Are you able to ping an IP at your DSL ISP?

If pinging IPs works then it's likely that DNS is the issue.

How to cure that? Heck I don't know but you'd be a step closer to
knowing what the problem is.

Daz

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William McBrine

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Dec 15, 2000, 6:22:52 PM12/15/00
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Kevin Lynch <kly...@rlc.net> wrote:

> Have any of you been able to get DSL and a dialup connection working
> simultaneously, running NT 4.0?

Sure. You may have to play with the "route" command to make it work. What
you want is to route only the traffic that _has_ to go over dialup that
way, and make the DSL connection your default route.

Take a look at "TCP/IP settings" on the "Server" tab. There's a checkbox
that says "Use default gateway on remote network". You'll want to uncheck
this, but not just yet -- first, you need to find out what routes you
actually need.

Dial-up, and then go to the command line and do "route print". The output
will look something like this:

C:\>route print
===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...00 50 56 b6 01 0c ...... AMD PCNET Family Ethernet Adapter
0x3 ...00 01 d0 4b 52 80 ...... NdisWan Adapter
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 152.125.216.69 152.125.216.69 1
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.14 2
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
152.125.0.0 255.255.0.0 152.125.216.69 152.125.216.69 1
152.125.216.69 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.14 192.168.1.14 2
192.168.1.14 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
192.168.1.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.14 192.168.1.14 1
224.0.0.0 224.0.0.0 152.125.216.69 152.125.216.69 1
224.0.0.0 224.0.0.0 192.168.1.14 192.168.1.14 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.14 192.168.1.14 1
===========================================================================

Here, "0.0.0.0" means the default route. 192.168.1.1 is the gateway for DSL,
and 192.168.1.14 is the machine's IP. (These are actually addresses on my
LAN, but it works the same way if you have a direct connection to DSL from
the NT computer.) The other default route line was put in by the dialup
adapter; it effectively displaces the old default route.

If we remove both default routes:

route delete 0.0.0.0

and then restore the DSL default route:

route add 0.0.0.0 mask 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1

normal DSL traffic is restored, while traffic destined for the 152.125.xx.xx
net continues to be routed over dialup. Unchecking the "Use remote gateway"
box before dialing up has the same effect.

But, is this enough? In my case, no -- as I can see by this excerpt from the
output of "ipconfig /all" (winipcfg will work as well):

Primary WINS Server . . . . : 152.124.64.18
Secondary WINS Server . . . : 152.124.173.19

Seeing this, I know that I at least have to route 152.124.xx.xx, as well.
Following the model of the existing route for 152.125.xx.xx:

route add 152.124.0.0 mask 255.255.0.0 152.125.216.69

This seems to be enough for my case, but it's a bit of trial and error. You
should find out the IP's of any of the machines on the dialup LAN that you
know you have to use, and figure out which nets they're in. If you're lucky,
no additional route statements will be needed.

HOWEVER, the fact that you're unable to access your Exchange server after
dialup is cause for concern. Since the dialup has set the default route, it
shouldn't be a routing issue. You may have another problem to work on there.

> Both the DSL and client connections use DHCP with DNS assigned by the
> server. I'm not sure if having DNS on seperate connections is an issue
> or if the client's DNS overides the ISP's DNS when I attach,

It seems that it does, in NT 4. It doesn't happen in Win 98, oddly enough.
This happens whether or not you uncheck "Use default gateway", but you could
try overriding it with the "Specify name server addresses" option from the
same page.

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William McBrine <wmcb...@telocity.com>

BWG

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Dec 16, 2000, 7:30:06 PM12/16/00
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Todd Pattist wrote:
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> Kevin Lynch <kly...@rlc.net> wrote:
>
How would you do this in windows Me???????

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billy ball

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Dec 17, 2000, 10:03:30 AM12/17/00
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On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:30:06 -0000, BWG <rne...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>Todd Pattist wrote:
>>
>> Kevin Lynch <kly...@rlc.net> wrote:
>>
>How would you do this in windows Me???????

why would anyone *use* windows Me???

jco...@computer.net

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Dec 17, 2000, 8:13:30 PM12/17/00
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Oh I don't know. Perhaps they bought a new machine and it came
preloaded on it? Other then some driver issues it seems much the
same as Win98se.
Not everyone has the patience or inclination to run Linux or Windows
NT/2000

William McBrine

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Dec 20, 2000, 8:00:20 PM12/20/00
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BWG <rne...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> How would you do this in windows Me???????

It works much the same in 98 SE as in NT 4. I assume ME would be the same.

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William McBrine <wmcb...@telocity.com>

FPF

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Jan 1, 2001, 6:31:47 PM1/1/01
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Here's a follow up question....

Since I run a small non for profit webserver on a windows 200 pro
machine in my home (http://compchat.com) I would like to get my DSL
free. As I've stated before WINFIRE has blocked all incoming ports
making this impossible. I have a dial-up connection that I can also
use.

Is it possible to setup the dial-up connection to accept the incoming
requests and then route them out through Winfire (and at the same time
be able to surf the net via Winfire DSL). IOW I want the outside
world to have access to ports 80 and 8080 on my machine which are
blocked by winfire DSL but not by my dial-up ISP.

TIA

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