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Peter Cross  
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 More options May 15 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: pcr...@zetnet.co.uk (Peter Cross)
Date: 1997/05/15
Subject: x2 in the UK

Hi ,,
Is the x2 flash available for the courier in the UK ??

Are there any BBS that support x2 ??? ( some people say you can connect to a bbs at 56k other say not , Any comments)

Could somebody tell me where to get a new face plate that says x2 or 56k !!! If you can get one I'll pay the postage  :)

If any one has any other info on x2 please mail me .

Thanks
Peter

Peter Cross : Thornton,Lancashire,England
E-Mail      :     pcr...@zetnet.co.uk


 
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Anthony Hill  
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 More options May 16 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: ah...@travel-net.com (Anthony Hill)
Date: 1997/05/16
Subject: Re: x2 in the UK

On Thu, 15 May 1997 20:05:56 GMT, pcr...@zetnet.co.uk (Peter Cross)
wrote:

>Hi ,,
>Is the x2 flash available for the courier in the UK ??

>Are there any BBS that support x2 ??? ( some people say you can connect to a bbs at 56k >other say not , Any comments)

        You can connect to the BBS using X2 if and only if they're
using a Courier I-Modem connected to a ISDN BRI line (err.. I suppose
you could do it if they've got USR MP8/MP16 connected to multiple BRIs
or Total Control connected to PRI/T1/E1 lines, but in that case it the
equipment would be exactly the same as what X2 capable ISPs use, and
most BBSs don't spend that sort of money).

>Could somebody tell me where to get a new face plate that says x2 or 56k !!! If you can >get one I'll pay the postage  :)

        Contact USR (the sales devision are probably the people to
talk to).  These new faceplates will DEFINATELY make the modem go
faster :>

Anthony Hill         | Favorite hobby: breaking Windows
ah...@travel-net.com |


 
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David Bowerman  
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 More options May 17 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: bower...@direct.ca (David Bowerman)
Date: 1997/05/17
Subject: x2 in the UK

pcr...@zetnet.co.uk wrote in a message to :

 pz> Are there any BBS that support x2 ??? ( some people say you can
 pz> connect to a bbs at 56k other say not , Any comments)

Not much use to you calling from the UK but the following North American
systems use Courier I-modems that can act as x2 servers.  As usual, subject to
change without notice -- the average life span of a BBS makes a mayfly look
like Methuselah. ;-))

The first 8 numbers support x2 on a regular basis,
the remaining 5 support x2 on an experimental basis.

1-502-245-8117  Janis Kracht     Louisville, KY, USA
1-360-427-0407  John Mudge       Shelton, WA, USA
1-281-980-1146  Bob Juge         Sugar Land, TX, USA
1-281-980-1092  Bob Juge         Sugar Land, TX, USA
1-847-884-6289  Joe Frankiewicz  Chicago, IL, USA
1-416-749-7230  Ray Dyer         Rexdale, ON, Canada
1-609-414-9095  Barry Geller     Maple Shade, NJ, USA
1-303-337-8701  Kirby Hylton     Aurora, CO, USA
1-810-493-0028  Don Plesky       Eastpointe, MI, USA
1-901-386-6067  Phil Arnold      Bartlett, TN, USA
1-404-321-9824  Bob McGrath      Decatur, GA, USA
1-770-277-0259  Chuck Robinson   Lawrenceville, GA, USA
1-803-308-0324  Bob Chapman      N Charleston, SC, USA

Regards,
       David

--- timEd/2 1.10+


 
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David Bowerman  
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 More options May 19 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: bower...@direct.ca (David Bowerman)
Date: 1997/05/19
Subject: x2 in the UK

na...@mips.rhein-neckar.de wrote in a message to :

> The first 8 numbers support x2 on a regular basis,

> 1-502-245-8117  Janis Kracht     Louisville, KY, USA

 nm> 1st attempt: entertaining noises, no connect
 nm> 2nd attempt: 16800/12000 V.34                           -urgh!  
 nm> "x2 Status: Channel will not support 3200 baud"       -huh?

The x2 back channel uses a 3200 symbol/second rate.  If the channel won't
support a 3200 rate, it won't do x2.

> 1-847-884-6289  Joe Frankiewicz  Chicago, IL, USA

 nm> 1st attempt: CONNECT 33333/ARQ/x2
 nm> 2nd attempt: CONNECT 33333/ARQ/x2
 nm> 3rd attempt: CONNECT 16800/ARQ/V34

 nm> Oh well.
 nm> Anyway, so much for the claim that x2 won't work over a
 nm> mu-law/A-law gateway. It's not stellar, but it is very definitely
 nm> an x2 connection between a server in North America and a client in
 nm> Europe.

Barely.  Reminds me of the comment about a dancing bear.  It's not how well it
dances, it's the fact that it dances at all. <g>

 nm> aty16
 nm>  -24  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . x x x . . . . . .   0
 nm>  -26  . x . . x x x x X X X X X X X X X X X X X . . . .   2
 nm>  -28  X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X x . .   4
 nm>  -30  X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X . .   6
 nm>  -32  X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X .   8
 nm>  -34  X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X .  10
 nm>  -36  X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X  12
 nm> Level --------------------Frequency-------------------- Attn      
 nm>       0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3
 nm>       1 3 4 6 7 9 0 2 3 5 6 8 9 1 2 4 5 7 8 0 1 3 4 6 7
 nm>       5 0 5 0 5 0 5 0 5 0 5 0 5 0 5 0 5 0 5 0 5 0 5 0 5
 nm>       0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Blech.

Regards,
       David

--- timEd/2 1.10+


 
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Alexey Stanovoy  
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 More options May 20 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: "Alexey Stanovoy" <xploa...@mail.wplus.net>
Date: 1997/05/20
Subject: Re: x2 in the UK

Hi!

> Oh well.
> Anyway, so much for the claim that x2 won't work over a mu-law/A-law
> gateway. It's not stellar, but it is very definitely an x2 connection
> between a server in North America and a client in Europe.
> Christian 'naddy' Weisgerber                  na...@mips.rhein-neckar.de
>   See another pointless homepage at <URL:http://home.pages.de/~naddy/>.

Try to call first Russian x2 ISP in Moskow.

x2 Modem Pool +7 (095) 7379002 andsend me statistics after d/l first 3
files from menu (login: guest -  without password). Statistics after
connect ATI6I11Y16.

--

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 With best regards,                 Unofficial Russian USR User Group
 Alexey Stanovoy.                   "Russian Team USR" Coordinator.
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Christian Weisgerber  
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 More options May 20 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: na...@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber)
Date: 1997/05/20
Subject: Re: x2 in the UK

bower...@direct.ca (David Bowerman) writes:
> The first 8 numbers support x2 on a regular basis,

> 1-502-245-8117  Janis Kracht     Louisville, KY, USA

1st attempt: entertaining noises, no connect
2nd attempt: 16800/12000 V.34                           -urgh!
  "x2 Status: Channel will not support 3200 baud"       -huh?

> 1-360-427-0407  John Mudge       Shelton, WA, USA

no answer

> 1-281-980-1146  Bob Juge         Sugar Land, TX, USA

1st attempt: no connect
2nd attempt, x2 disabled: no connect

The modems will produce entertaining noises for some 30 seconds,
eventually the answering modem hangs up.
THIS IS NOT ACCECTABLE. A pair of Couriers won't connect over a
transatlantic line? What is this, the Dark Ages?

> 1-847-884-6289  Joe Frankiewicz  Chicago, IL, USA

1st attempt: CONNECT 33333/ARQ/x2
2nd attempt: CONNECT 33333/ARQ/x2
3rd attempt: CONNECT 16800/ARQ/V34

Oh well.
Anyway, so much for the claim that x2 won't work over a mu-law/A-law
gateway. It's not stellar, but it is very definitely an x2 connection
between a server in North America and a client in Europe.

ati6
USRobotics Courier V.Everything Link Diagnostics...

Chars sent                   20      Chars Received             1443
Chars lost                    0
Octets sent                  20      Octets Received             752
Blocks sent                  15      Blocks Received              46
Blocks resent                 0

Retrains Requested            0      Retrains Granted              0
Line Reversals                0      Blers                         0
Link Timeouts                 0      Link Naks                     0

Data Compression       V42BIS 2048/32
Equalization           Long
Fallback               Enabled
Protocol               LAPM SREJ 128/15
Speed                  32000/31200
Last Call              00:01:21

Disconnect Reason is Escape code
OK
ati11
USRobotics Courier V.Everything Link Diagnostics...

Modulation               x2/V.34+
Carrier Freq    ( Hz )   NONE/1920
Symbol Rate              8000/3200
Trellis Code             NONE/64S-4D
Nonlinear Encoding       NONE/ON
Precoding                NONE/OFF
Shaping                  OFF/ON
Preemphasis Index        NONE/0
Recv/Xmit Level (-dBm)   22.1/12.2
SNR             ( dB )   40.2
Near Echo Loss  ( dB )   23.0
Far Echo Loss   ( dB )  
Roundtrip Delay (msec)   112
Timing Offset   ( ppm)   -3375
Carrier Offset  ( ppm)   10
RX Upshifts              0
RX Downshifts            0
TX Speedshifts           2
x2 Status                0000; 0000-0000-0001-0000-0000-0000; 00,00 003D;01

OK
aty16
 -24  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . x x x . . . . . .   0
 -26  . x . . x x x x X X X X X X X X X X X X X . . . .   2
 -28  X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X x . .   4
 -30  X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X . .   6
 -32  X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X .   8
 -34  X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X .  10
 -36  X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X  12
Level --------------------Frequency-------------------- Attn
      0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3
      1 3 4 6 7 9 0 2 3 5 6 8 9 1 2 4 5 7 8 0 1 3 4 6 7
      5 0 5 0 5 0 5 0 5 0 5 0 5 0 5 0 5 0 5 0 5 0 5 0 5
      0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

OK

For the record:

ati7
USRobotics Courier V.Everything Configuration Profile...

Product type           US/Canada External
Options                HST,V32bis,Terbo,VFC,V34+,x2
Fax Options            Class 1,Class 2.0
Clock Freq             20.16Mhz
Flash ROM              512k
Ram                    64k

Supervisor date        02/25/97
DSP date               02/25/97

Supervisor rev         7.1.4
DSP rev                2.2.1

--
Christian 'naddy' Weisgerber                  na...@mips.rhein-neckar.de
  See another pointless homepage at <URL:http://home.pages.de/~naddy/>.


 
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Christian Weisgerber  
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 More options May 30 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: na...@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber)
Date: 1997/05/30
Subject: Re: x2 in the UK

"Alexey Stanovoy" <xploa...@mail.wplus.net> writes:
> Try to call first Russian x2 ISP in Moskow.

> x2 Modem Pool +7 (095) 7379002 and send me statistics after d/l first 3

                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Is that +7  95 7379002
     or +7 095 7379002 ?

Hmm, either one gives a "no such number" intercept.

--
Christian 'naddy' Weisgerber                  na...@mips.rhein-neckar.de
  See another pointless homepage at <URL:http://home.pages.de/~naddy/>.


 
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Alex Tartakovski  
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 More options May 31 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: tar...@ibm.net (Alex Tartakovski)
Date: 1997/05/31
Subject: Re: x2 in the UK

On 30 May 1997 00:19:26 +0200, na...@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian

Weisgerber) wrote:
>"Alexey Stanovoy" <xploa...@mail.wplus.net> writes:

>> Try to call first Russian x2 ISP in Moskow.

>> x2 Modem Pool +7 (095) 7379002 and send me statistics after d/l first 3
>                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Is that +7  95 7379002
>     or +7 095 7379002 ?

>Hmm, either one gives a "no such number" intercept.

>--
>Christian 'naddy' Weisgerber                  na...@mips.rhein-neckar.de
>  See another pointless homepage at <URL:http://home.pages.de/~naddy/>.

It should be 7 - 095 - some 7 digit Moscow phone number. 7 and 095 are
Russia's and Moscow international access codes. As usual,  your access
code should precede the international number you're dialing. In US you
dial 011 first.

 
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