VERY Old RDB Manuals (V2.3) wanted!
vaxorcist
buy oder trade for hobbyist use.
Genuine manuals, copies or files (pdf/tiff/...), anything is welcome!
Regards
Ulli
vaxorcist
Theese are the manuals wanted:
AA-GQ93D-TE VAX RDB/VMS Release Notes
AA-JK92A-TE VAX Info Introduction to Database Development
AA-JK93A-TE VAX Info Introduction to Application Development
AA-JL07A-TE VAX RDB/VMS RDML Reference Manual
AA-KN51A-TE VAX RDB/VMS RDML Pocket Guide
AA-N032F-TE VAX RDB/VMS Installation Guide
AA-N033D-TE VAX RDB/VMS Pocket Guide
AA-N034B-TE VAX RDB/VMS Guide to Database Design and Definition
AA-N035C-TE VAX RDB/VMS Guide to Database Administration and
Maintenance
AA-N036C-TE VAX RDB/VMS Guide to Data Manipulation
AA-N038C-TE VAX RDB/VMS Guide to Programming
AA-N039D-TE VAX RDB/VMS Reference Manual
AD-N032F-T1 VAX RDB/VMS Installation Guide Update
AV-HX12B-TE VAX Info Doc Brochure
AV-N037E-TE VAX RDB/VMS Before you Install Letter
Rich Jordan
Do you know the timeframe for those releases? The oldest I have here
on hand is the November 1992 CONDOC kit and it covers Rdb V4.1. I
_might_ have a few older ones but only going back a year or two more,
in storage. As in its a pain in the rear to get at them and I won't
try if the 2.x or 3.x availability dates are before early 1990...
Rich
Al Kossow
> As in its a pain in the rear to get at them and I won't
> try if the 2.x or 3.x availability dates are before early 1990...
The release note for 3.0 is Jul, 1988 and the earliest manuals I see
from the DEC archives at CHM are 1985.
Were they putting docs for layered products on documentation CDs this
early?
Antonio Carlini
@registered.motzarella.org:
FWIW: My earliest Consolidated Software CD is May 1989.
Antonio
vaxorcist
> Do you know the timeframe for those releases? The oldest I have here
> on hand is the November 1992 CONDOC kit and it covers Rdb V4.1. I
> _might_ have a few older ones but only going back a year or two more,
> in storage. As in its a pain in the rear to get at them and I won't
> try if the 2.x or 3.x availability dates are before early 1990...
>
> Rich
RDB/VAX V2.3 release date is 9/87 (the last RDB version to work under
VMS V4.x).
But nevertheless thanks for considering to dig out old manuals ...
Regards,
Ulli
vaxorcist
> The release note for 3.0 is Jul, 1988 and the earliest manuals I see
> from the DEC archives at CHM are 1985.
>
> Were they putting docs for layered products on documentation CDs this
> early?
What are the "DEC archives at CHM"?
Is it anything available online or otherwise?
Regards,
Ulli
David Biddulph
news:f14d92ad-c2e7-40e3...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 28, 7:27 pm, Al Kossow <a...@spies.com> wrote:
>
>> The release note for 3.0 is Jul, 1988 and the earliest manuals I see
>> from the DEC archives at CHM are 1985.
> What are the "DEC archives at CHM"?
Google is your friend:
http://www.decconnection.org/computermuseum.pdf
--
David Biddulph
Rich Jordan
Ulli,
sorry, but that is definitely earlier than anything I have in
storage. I have one or two of the kits that DEC sent out in plastic
CD folders (looked like floppy disk cases) before they moved to the
early pasteboard folders but I think they're from late '89 at the
absolute earliest.
Actually those may be more accessible since they didn't fit in
the box with the pasteboard ones. I'll check if I can.
Rich
Dann Corbit
> RDB V2.3 (or any other Version 2.x or 3.x) manuals wanted to borrow,
> buy oder trade for hobbyist use.
> Genuine manuals, copies or files (pdf/tiff/...), anything is welcome!
You won't want to use version 2.x or 3.x unless you really have to. There
was an 80% improvment in performance between version 3.0 and 4.1. See:
"How the Rdb/VMS Data Sharing System Became Fast (1992) "
by David Lomet Rick Anderson T. K. Rengarajan Peter Spiro
I can probably find manuals for 4.0 and above somewhere. I have all Rdb
versions from 4.0 up to modern versions.
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Sue
Ulli,
Please send me email on may HP email account.
thanks
Sue Skonetski
vaxorcist
> You won't want to use version 2.x or 3.x unless you really have to. There
> was an 80% improvment in performance between version 3.0 and 4.1. See:
> "How the Rdb/VMS Data Sharing System Became Fast (1992) "
> by David Lomet Rick Anderson T. K. Rengarajan Peter Spiro
>
> I can probably find manuals for 4.0 and above somewhere. I have all Rdb
> versions from 4.0 up to modern versions.
Thank you for the hint on the article about RDB performance.
I will read it carefully.
Nevertheless I want to run RDB on OLD VAX hardware using VMS V4 as a
Hobbyist. So there's no need for speed - it's all for fun!
Regards
Ulli
P.S.
May I ask for help again when I want to use newer versions (e.g. V4)
additionally?
vaxorcist
> Ulli,
> sorry, but that is definitely earlier than anything I have in
> storage. I have one or two of the kits that DEC sent out in plastic
> CD folders (looked like floppy disk cases) before they moved to the
> early pasteboard folders but I think they're from late '89 at the
> absolute earliest.
>
> Actually those may be more accessible since they didn't fit in
> the box with the pasteboard ones. I'll check if I can.
>
> Rich
Sounds like RDB V3.x, probably V3.1.
Would be very nice if you could have a look and check!
Thank you!
Regards
Ulli
Dann Corbit
Sure, that's what Usenet is for.
Rdb V 4.2.1 is really the minimum that I would run, since there were so many
bugs fixed and also the big speedup.
Consider:
http://www.sciinc.com/remotedba/techinfo/versioninfo/rdb410.asp
http://www.sciinc.com/remotedba/techinfo/versioninfo/rdb411.asp
http://www.sciinc.com/remotedba/techinfo/versioninfo/rdb420.asp
http://www.sciinc.com/remotedba/techinfo/versioninfo/rdb421.asp
We've got it running on an old VAX running VMS 6.1 here:
SQL> show version
Current version of SQL is: VAX SQL V4.2-1
SQL> attach 'filename cnxdir:connx_rdb_examples';
SQL> show tables
User tables in database with filename cnxdir:connx_rdb_examples
BLOBTEST
CUSTOMERS
EQUIPMNT
EQUIP_VIEW A view.
ORDERS
PRODUCTS
PRODUCT_GROUPS
SQL>