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Tronic

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Jul 14, 2008, 4:13:48 PM7/14/08
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Extra London Underground staff were drafted in after a breakdown in
the Oyster card system left thousands of people needing replacement
cards.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7504734.stm

About 65,000 cards were corrupted and stopped working when they were
swiped during technical problems on Saturday.

Tube workers handed out replacement cards and to prevent long queues
some passengers travelled free of charge.

Transport for London (TfL) said by lunchtime on Monday more than
30,000 affected cards had been replaced.

Automatic refund

A TfL spokesman said: "The vast majority of passengers have travelled
without any disruption this morning and London Underground staff have
minimised the delay to passengers with cards that are not working.

"We are replacing affected cards and there are now less than 35,000
cards that need to be replaced.

"Ticket offices are well stocked and we advise those passengers who
have not yet replaced their cards to go to their nearest LU ticket
office throughout today."

The Oyster card system was inoperable for at least five hours on
Saturday and some 65,000 cards used during that time stopped working
or incurred a fine.

All passengers who incurred a maximum fare or fine as a result of the
fault will be given an automatic refund from Tuesday.

The cards are used as payment on buses, Tube, tram and the Docklands
Light Railway.

Passengers touch the electronic card on the reader on entry or exit to
a station, or when entering a bus.

An investigation has been launched into the problem and TfL is
expected to release a statement later this week.

abelard

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Jul 14, 2008, 4:22:26 PM7/14/08
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disgusting things....

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Flora__Fauna/Young_French_oysters_hit_by_abnormal_mortality/articleshow/3226919.cms
"Young oysters in most French breeding regions are dying at much
higher rates than normal and scientists have yet to understand the
causes, marine environmental experts said.

Oysters are a popular Christmas treat in France, which produces
130,000 tonnes annually, making France the fourth biggest producer
after China, Japan and South Korea."

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malc

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Jul 14, 2008, 4:39:05 PM7/14/08
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Tronic wrote:
> Extra London Underground staff were drafted in after a breakdown in

Oh do fuck off there's a good troll.


Tronic

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Jul 14, 2008, 4:49:22 PM7/14/08
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i try to remain professional i have professional ethics.

FACE

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Jul 14, 2008, 8:10:54 PM7/14/08
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From abelard <abel...@abelard.org>, in uk.politics.misc on Mon, 14 Jul
2008 22:22:26 +0200 :

>
>
>disgusting things....
>
>http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Flora__Fauna/Young_French_oysters_hit_by_abnormal_mortality/articleshow/3226919.cms
>"Young oysters in most French breeding regions are dying at much
>higher rates than normal and scientists have yet to understand the
>causes, marine environmental experts said.
>
>Oysters are a popular Christmas treat in France, which produces
>130,000 tonnes annually, making France the fourth biggest producer
>after China, Japan and South Korea."


So, is it your feeling that it was this French oyster deficit that was
reason for the underground oyster cards failing? Perhaps due to the dearth,
the amount of oyster per card has become too little........

FACE

abelard

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Jul 14, 2008, 8:17:06 PM7/14/08
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:10:54 -0400, FACE <AFaceIn...@today.net>
wrote:

that seems to me a very promising hypothesis

regards

mimus

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Jul 14, 2008, 10:08:31 PM7/14/08
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:17:06 +0200, abelard wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:10:54 -0400, FACE <AFaceIn...@today.net>
> wrote:
>
>> From abelard <abel...@abelard.org>, in uk.politics.misc on Mon, 14
>> Jul 2008 22:22:26 +0200 :
>
>>> disgusting things....
>>>
>>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Flora__Fauna/Young_French_oysters_hit_by_abnormal_mortality/articleshow/3226919.cms
>>> "Young oysters in most French breeding regions are dying at much
>>> higher rates than normal and scientists have yet to understand the
>>> causes, marine environmental experts said.
>>>
>>> Oysters are a popular Christmas treat in France, which produces
>>> 130,000 tonnes annually, making France the fourth biggest producer
>>> after China, Japan and South Korea."
>>
>> So, is it your feeling that it was this French oyster deficit that was
>> reason for the underground oyster cards failing? Perhaps due to the
>> dearth, the amount of oyster per card has become too little........
>
> that seems to me a very promising hypothesis

It just didn't leave the system with enough mussel?

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John of Aix

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Jul 15, 2008, 5:45:11 AM7/15/08
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Is that why it clammed up?


mimus

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Jul 15, 2008, 12:22:43 PM7/15/08
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I bet they're going to have to shell out a bundle.

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When a system is set up to accomplish some goal, a
new entity has come into being--the system itself.
No matter what the "goal" of the system, it
immediately begins to exhibit system behavior; that
is, to act according to the general laws that govern
the operation of all systems. Now the system itself
has to be dealt with.

< _Systemantics_


John of Aix

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Jul 15, 2008, 1:56:26 PM7/15/08
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mimus wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:45:11 +0200, John of Aix wrote:
>
>> mimus wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:17:06 +0200, abelard wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:10:54 -0400, FACE
>>>> <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From abelard <abel...@abelard.org>, in uk.politics.misc on Mon,
>>>>> 14 Jul 2008 22:22:26 +0200 :
>>>>
>>>>>> disgusting things....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Flora__Fauna/Young_French_oysters_hit_by_abnormal_mortality/articleshow/3226919.cms
>>>>>> "Young oysters in most French breeding regions are dying at much
>>>>>> higher rates than normal and scientists have yet to understand
>>>>>> the causes, marine environmental experts said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oysters are a popular Christmas treat in France, which produces
>>>>>> 130,000 tonnes annually, making France the fourth biggest
>>>>>> producer after China, Japan and South Korea."
>>>>>
>>>>> So, is it your feeling that it was this French oyster deficit that
>>>>> was reason for the underground oyster cards failing? Perhaps due
>>>>> to the dearth, the amount of oyster per card has become too
>>>>> little........
>>>>
>>>> that seems to me a very promising hypothesis
>>>
>>> It just didn't leave the system with enough mussel?
>>
>> Is that why it clammed up?
>
> I bet they're going to have to shell out a bundle.

Once it's been winkled out of them


abelard

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Jul 16, 2008, 2:57:33 PM7/16/08
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molluscs!

Paul C. Dickie

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Jul 17, 2008, 3:22:53 PM7/17/08
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In message <u0rn74985f6rjoa2f...@4ax.com>, abelard
<abel...@abelard.org> writes

>On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:10:54 -0400, FACE <AFaceIn...@today.net>
>wrote:
>
>>From abelard <abel...@abelard.org>, in uk.politics.misc on Mon, 14 Jul
>>2008 22:22:26 +0200 :
>
>>>disgusting things....
>>>
>>>http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Flora__Fauna/Young_French_oysters_h
>>>it_by_abnormal_mortality/articleshow/3226919.cms
>>>"Young oysters in most French breeding regions are dying at much
>>>higher rates than normal and scientists have yet to understand the
>>>causes, marine environmental experts said.
>>>
>>>Oysters are a popular Christmas treat in France, which produces
>>>130,000 tonnes annually, making France the fourth biggest producer
>>>after China, Japan and South Korea."
>
>>So, is it your feeling that it was this French oyster deficit that was
>>reason for the underground oyster cards failing? Perhaps due to the dearth,
>>the amount of oyster per card has become too little........
>
>that seems to me a very promising hypothesis

Or could it just have been a bit of grit?

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< Paul >

cheseroo

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Jul 18, 2008, 5:13:26 PM7/18/08
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>
> Or could it just have been a bit of grit?
>


There's a pearl of wisdom

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