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(14:17:22) rhin0: i program
(14:17:26) rhin0: still
(14:17:37) rhin0: <- programmer
(14:18:19) rhin0: i was programming in industry in the 80s
(14:18:21) rhin0: in software houses
(14:18:48) rhin0: im a hell of a lot better at it than i was then
(14:18:53) Caelum: what do you program in now?
(14:18:56) rhin0: python
(14:20:28) rhin0: i recommend it
(14:20:50) rhin0: its skeltal
(14:20:51) Caelum: I code perl
(14:20:56) rhin0: stipped things away
(14:21:31) rhin0: does perl have object orientation
(14:21:40) Caelum: yes
(14:21:43) rhin0: i like python because its more OO
(14:21:48) rhin0: like pascal
(14:21:52) rhin0: i think
(14:22:02) rhin0: prolog
(14:22:07) rhin0: i liked prolog
(14:22:24) Caelum: pascal did not have OO until some extensions in
turbopascal/delphi
(14:22:35) rhin0: no idea
(14:22:49) ***rhin0 background relational databases java then python
(14:23:32) Caelum: I do database stuff, did some java before
(14:23:46) rhin0: database "stuff" to me is the baseline
(14:23:46) Caelum: I work on an ORM
(14:24:19) rhin0: whats an ORM please
(14:25:00) Caelum: OO interface to a relational database
(14:25:10) Caelum: like SQLAlchemy
(14:25:39) rhin0: tm
(14:25:49) rhin0: what the hell is that
(14:25:58) rhin0: sql is garbage who gives a crap
(14:26:21) Caelum: SQL Alchemy is a python ORM
(14:26:39) Caelum: there is also the Django ORM
(14:27:11) rhin0: ok ok
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(14:28:37) rhin0: i never saw the point of sql
(14:28:59) rhin0: when you program with a relational database operating
system
(14:29:02) rhin0: its intrinsic
(14:29:35) rhin0: m$ in early 2000s figured they were still working with
flatfiles (they still do)
(14:29:43) rhin0: the configuration of their OS
(14:30:11) rhin0: advanced people have their base line filing system as a
relational database
(14:30:37) rhin0: m$ organisation fell apart because they couldn't
control their data
(14:31:13) rhin0: if you put the m$ platform (at they thought about in
the early years of the millenium)
(14:31:29) rhin0: onto a relational database structure ..
(14:31:53) rhin0: people here still talking about "directory structure"
(14:32:03) rhin0: real people talk in dictionaries
(14:32:20) rhin0: (relational databases)
(14:32:32) rhin0: m$ thought about and could have moved to a real model
(14:32:43) rhin0: but its dead kindergarten structure
(14:32:49) rhin0: dead people all I see
(14:33:33) rhin0: people are still programming and the program is the
object
(14:33:40) rhin0: the data is the object
(14:33:52) rhin0: m$ never saw the data
(14:33:55) rhin0: its dead
(14:34:01) rhin0: m$ is a corpse
(14:34:07) rhin0: hell apple is a corpse
(14:34:18) rhin0: its a conceptual model
(14:34:19) ***Caelum goes to have breakfast &
(14:35:05) rhin0: yer all idiots
(14:35:10) rhin0: i pity you
(14:35:32) rhin0: you lost the model
(14:35:37) rhin0: the real model the power
(14:35:55) rhin0: yer stuck in the thick retarded microsoft universe
(14:36:00) rhin0: its disgusting
(14:36:29) rhin0: you wasted your lives
(14:36:39) rhin0: with yer stupid pc OS S
(14:36:50) rhin0: nothing real fucking toys
(14:37:04) rhin0: things will change
(14:37:44) rhin0: microsoft retarded the industry for 20 years
(14:37:49) rhin0: its what monopolies do
(14:37:56) rhin0: its limitation
(14:38:17) rhin0: they limit
(14:38:28) rhin0: they have very little scope they limit and retard
markets
(14:38:42) rhin0: m$ was the largest monopoly in history
(14:38:53) rhin0: we are very shortly now pulling away from it
(14:39:31) rhin0: any innovation m$ destroyed
(14:39:34) rhin0: wilfully
(14:39:46) rhin0: retardation of progress control
(14:39:50) ***iiSnardy feels like he's strolling through Hyde Park ...
(14:40:00) rhin0: business is anti progress technological progress
(14:40:18) ***rhin0 vomits on shoes