10g or 11g ?

Jeremy

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Aug 30, 2007, 2:22:13 PM8/30/07

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Planning to migrate our systems to a new data center env in next couple
of months. Currently on 9iR2 - thought was to go to 10g but should we go
straight to 11g instead? General approach is to be one release behind
the latest so that we know the platform is solid as a rock.

Be interested to hear opinions on this.

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jeremy

hpuxrac

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Aug 30, 2007, 2:43:44 PM8/30/07

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Well some of the expected oracle marketing droids in this newsgroup
( see what Howard has to say about ACE and directors by the way at
http://www.dizwell.com/prod see blogs ) will be pushing 11g for sure.

We moved recently to 10.2 on all our systems ( 10.2.0.3 ) and it's
working ok as long as you prevent database control from running. ( If
not then you lose a whole bunch of cpu cycle's looks like oracle isn't
up to speed at getting information about EMC symmetrix storage ).

We had been running 9.2.0.8 which was also pretty stable.

What platform? Oracle currently only has 11g out on linux and not
even sure if that's 64 bit.

My own recommendation ( and what we will be doing here ) is to start
slowly playing with 11g and evaluate it for implementation as it
becomes stable and widely available.

To me anyhow 11g sure looks a lot more like 10.3 than 11x so perhaps
that means it will be more ready to implement sooner than later.

iv...@hotmail.com

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Aug 30, 2007, 8:02:06 PM8/30/07

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Given you use "data center env", "next couple of months" and "solid as
a rock" in your post I just don't get why you consider 11g at all :)

Regards,
Igor

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Cristian Cudizio

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Aug 31, 2007, 3:02:30 AM8/31/07

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I've not installed 11g yet, but 64bit version is not out there. That makes me
think that 11g is a bit more than 10.3. However i think you'd better to continue
with your general approach a to migrate to 10.2.0.3 that a big jump from 9iR2.
When we 2 year ago have migrated to 10.1 on Linux x86_64 we have had a lot of problems
and nothing can makes me convince that similar problems could not happen
with new version 11g.
Obviously nothing prevent you to start testing also 11g

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Richard Foote

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Aug 31, 2007, 9:44:26 AM8/31/07

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"Jeremy" <jerem...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Hi Jeremy

In the next couple of months, you may still be waiting for 11g depending on
your platform.

I've been playing with Oracle since the Oracle 7 days (yep, I'm only a
relative newbie in this game) and if the first release of Oracle 8, 8i, 9i
and 10g are anything to go by, I would be hesitate to jump into the first
version of any major release.

In practicality, by the time one actually spends the time to learn the new
features and subtleties of the new product and by the time one tests
existing applications on the new release to discover the obvious bugs, you
may as well wait the remaining time until Release 2 anyways.

Another danger of jumping in too early is that it usually takes Oracle
Support until release 2 to become comfortable support the thing themselves.

Interestingly, I believe Oracle Corp are beginning to clue up to this usual
"waiting until Release Stable" strategy and I wouldn't be surprised if 11g
Release 2 appears earlier than usual.

Just my humble little opinion ...

Cheers

Richard

Palooka

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Sep 1, 2007, 5:39:19 PM9/1/07

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"Richard Foote"

> In the next couple of months, you may still be waiting for 11g depending
> on your platform.
>
> I've been playing with Oracle since the Oracle 7 days (yep, I'm only a
> relative newbie in this game) and if the first release of Oracle 8, 8i, 9i
> and 10g are anything to go by, I would be hesitate to jump into the first
> version of any major release.
>
> In practicality, by the time one actually spends the time to learn the new
> features and subtleties of the new product and by the time one tests
> existing applications on the new release to discover the obvious bugs, you
> may as well wait the remaining time until Release 2 anyways.
>
> Another danger of jumping in too early is that it usually takes Oracle
> Support until release 2 to become comfortable support the thing
> themselves.
>
> Interestingly, I believe Oracle Corp are beginning to clue up to this
> usual "waiting until Release Stable" strategy and I wouldn't be surprised
> if 11g Release 2 appears earlier than usual.
>

Completely agree. Business as usual. I don't even bother testing until the
release 2.

Palooka

jeremy

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Sep 4, 2007, 11:13:42 AM9/4/07

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On Aug 31, 2:44 pm, "Richard Foote" <richard.fo...@nospam.bigpond.com>
wrote:
> "Jeremy" <jeremy0...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:MPG.21411b283...@news.individual.net...
>
> > Planning to migrate our systems to a new data center env in next couple
> > of months. Currently on 9iR2 - thought was to go to 10g but should we go
> > straight to 11g instead? General approach is to be one release behind
> > the latest so that we know the platform is solid as a rock.
>
> > Be interested to hear opinions on this.
>
> > --
>
> Hi Jeremy

>
> Just my humble little opinion ...
>

Thanks Richard and everyone else who responded - it does seem that
10gR2 is the "safe" way to go.

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jeremy

DA Morgan

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Sep 4, 2007, 12:10:14 PM9/4/07

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In the next couple of months go to 10.2.0.3.

I would install 11g for sure ... but for purposes of gaining
familiarity and for testing but to move to production in 60-90
days ... far too soon to allow for appropriate testing cycles.
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Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
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Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
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