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gs

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:45:11 AM11/9/09
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I have tried several times, just get a blank page with FF and a
connection error on IE - latest flash player etc. is installed.

Just curious if others are able to get in..

cheers

steven_nospam at Yahoo! Canada

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:59:32 AM11/9/09
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I get the opening page when I go to http://metalink.oracle.com but
then get the IE error after a timeout when clicking on the "Sign In"
button to try to get to the secure page. (10:54am Eastern)

Gerard H. Pille

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:07:21 PM11/9/09
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It worked for part of the day.

They are now probably restoring Classic Metalink.

I hope.

Thomas Kellerer

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:56:32 PM11/9/09
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gs wrote on 09.11.2009 16:45:
> I have tried several times, just get a blank page with FF and a
> connection error on IE - latest flash player etc. is installed.
>
Isn't today the scheduled lock out of all users with a safe browser? (i.e. those not using a flash plugin)

joel garry

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:01:12 PM11/9/09
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On Nov 9, 7:59 am, "steven_nospam at Yahoo! Canada"

I'm stuck at 90% loaded after login, with it flashing benefits like
Faster Problem Resolution and Improved System Stability. (10AM PST)

jg
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Charles Hooper

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Nov 9, 2009, 2:43:27 PM11/9/09
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On Nov 9, 10:45 am, gs <g...@gs.com> wrote:

It worked OK for me with IE 8 a couple hours before your post. The
site had performance problems displaying search results - even
clicking a link in the search results sometimes required more than a
minute to display the matching result page. This was my first time
using the Flash based interface. The new interface did look
interesting with a lot of potential, but it was a bit too cluttered,
especially with things popping up on the screen as the mouse pointer
was moved. It did not help that the message "Unable to communicate
with server - Server Timeout" appeared at the top right of the web
page, and when I clicked on one of the search results the navigation
area of the page (at the left and top) was blurred (disabled) making
it impossible to select a different page (search result or other page)
to view - even the back button in the browser had no effect (this was
noticed at about the time of your post).

One thing that I noticed when accessing the site for the first time
(or after a restart of IE), when the flash loading message appeared,
my computer showed that it was hitting the upper transfer limit for
the T1 Internet connection while the flash loading message was on the
screen - the message must have remained on the screen for 10 to 20
seconds. If the same behavior is present for everyone accessing the
site, I would imagine that the Internet bandwidth requirements at the
Metalink site must be very high and might be contributing to a self
inflicted denial of service.

Charles Hooper
IT Manager/Oracle DBA
K&M Machine-Fabricating, Inc.

Matthias Hoys

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Nov 9, 2009, 3:08:49 PM11/9/09
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"gs" <g...@gs.com> wrote in message news:bOWJm.51232$Db2.9586@edtnps83...

It's not called Metalink anymore - it's now called My Oracle Support :-)
Already missing the old name...

Matthias


Mladen Gogala

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Nov 9, 2009, 3:18:03 PM11/9/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:01:12 -0800, joel garry wrote:

> On Nov 9, 7:59 am, "steven_nospam at Yahoo! Canada"
> <steven_nos...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> On Nov 9, 10:45 am, gs <g...@gs.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I have tried several times, just get a blank page with FF and a
>> > connection error on IE - latest flash player etc. is installed.
>>
>> > Just curious if others are able to get in..
>>
>> > cheers
>>
>> I get the opening page when I go tohttp://metalink.oracle.combut then
>> get the IE error after a timeout when clicking on the "Sign In" button
>> to try to get to the secure page. (10:54am Eastern)
>
> I'm stuck at 90% loaded after login, with it flashing benefits like
> Faster Problem Resolution and Improved System Stability. (10AM PST)
>
> jg

I managed to log in. No bookmarks, no service requests! This is an
unbreakable disaster(TM)!

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Palooka

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Nov 9, 2009, 4:18:55 PM11/9/09
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What's next? My little pony?

Shakespeare

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Nov 9, 2009, 5:02:12 PM11/9/09
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Palooka schreef:

My First Exadata

Shakespeare

hpuxrac

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:17:13 PM11/9/09
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On Nov 9, 10:45 am, gs <g...@gs.com> wrote:

snip

Like Joel I am stuck at 90% and the Improved System Stability think
keeps flashing periodically at the bottom of the screen ...

joel garry

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:54:39 PM11/9/09
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On Nov 9, 2:02 pm, Shakespeare <what...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> Palooka schreef:
>
> > On 09/11/09 20:08, Matthias Hoys wrote:
> >> "gs"<g...@gs.com> wrote in messagenews:bOWJm.51232$Db2.9586@edtnps83...

> >>> I have tried several times, just get a blank page with FF and a
> >>> connection
> >>> error on IE - latest flash player etc. is installed.
>
> >>> Just curious if others are able to get in..
>
> >>> cheers
>
> >> It's not called Metalink anymore - it's now called My Oracle Support :-)
> >> Already missing the old name...

meatlink, metaclunk, it was easy.

Hmmm... MESS? More Old Shit?

OHhhh http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/MOS Maintenance Out of
Service

>
> > What's next? My little pony?
>
> My First Exadata
>
> Shakespeare

LOL!

Petabyte-in-the-box: Petabox!

jg
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/06/60minutes/main5555565.shtml

Shakespeare

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Nov 10, 2009, 1:48:20 AM11/10/09
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hpuxrac schreef:

I now use Google Chrome (Internet Exploder just gives me a white screen,
but I did experiment with my settings for some other site, so it may be
my fault). With Chrome, it all works ok now.

Shakespeare

Shakespeare

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:01:50 AM11/10/09
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hpuxrac schreef:

There should be an option without Flash (html login) but once you have
Flash enabled, it does not show in the menu. So here's the link for
Metalink without Flash:

https://support.oracle.com/CSP/ui/signin_en.html#

Shakespeare

Shakespeare

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:05:09 AM11/10/09
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Shakespeare schreef:

Well... that link doesn't work either, but this one does (for now at least)

https://supporthtml.oracle.com/ep/faces/index.jspx

Shakespeare
To flash or not to flash.....

Noons

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Nov 10, 2009, 3:40:44 AM11/10/09
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After quite a few tries, finally got in.
It had lost all my prior customizations.
Then when I tried to customize the dashboard,
it crashed FF and IE.
Ah well, I'm gonna give it another coupla days
before bothering...

srivenu kadiyala

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Nov 10, 2009, 9:38:53 AM11/10/09
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Looks like they had to do some sort of recovery.
When i tried to login last weekend, i got the following message 'file
66 cannot be read at this time' ORA-01110: data file metalinkXXX.dbf'
regards
srivenu

yossarian

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Nov 10, 2009, 9:48:07 AM11/10/09
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srivenu kadiyala wrote:

> When i tried to login last weekend, i got the following message 'file
> 66 cannot be read at this time' ORA-01110: data file metalinkXXX.dbf'

The shoemaker always wear broken shoes...

Eugene Pokopac

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Nov 10, 2009, 9:55:00 AM11/10/09
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No luck getting in yesterday after 4:00 PM EST. Probably had the
actual conversion done by Elbonians (see Dilbert if that term makes no
sense). I'll deal with it later in the week. I'd be canned if I
brought up a system like that after a conversion.
Was it ever tested on a development server?

joel garry

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:18:03 PM11/10/09
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Mladen Gogala

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:46:27 PM11/10/09
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:55:00 -0800, Eugene Pokopac wrote:

> No luck getting in yesterday after 4:00 PM EST. Probably had the actual
> conversion done by Elbonians (see Dilbert if that term makes no sense).

Oh, the term does make sense, a lot of sense.


> I'll deal with it later in the week. I'd be canned if I brought up a
> system like that after a conversion. Was it ever tested on a development
> server?

I believe that Oracle Corp. has transcended the earthly testing. The users
will do the testing.

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Shakespeare

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Nov 10, 2009, 3:49:02 PM11/10/09
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joel garry schreef:

"In case you didn�t read in the FAQ � there will be an HTML version for
anyone unable to use flash. Hint: If your browser allows flash, there
isn�t an HTML option. You�ll have to figure out the rest."

Well, I did! Enjoy:

https://supporthtml.oracle.com/ep/faces/index.jspx

And now we are waiting for commercial breaks every 4 to 5 minutes.....

Shakespeare

Mladen Gogala

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Nov 10, 2009, 4:44:37 PM11/10/09
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:49:02 +0100, Shakespeare wrote:

> joel garry schreef:
>> On Nov 10, 12:40 am, Noons <wizofo...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>> gs wrote,on my timestamp of 10/11/2009 2:45 AM:
>>>
>>>> I have tried several times, just get a blank page with FF and a
>>>> connection error on IE - latest flash player etc. is installed. Just
>>>> curious if others are able to get in..
>>> After quite a few tries, finally got in. It had lost all my prior
>>> customizations. Then when I tried to customize the dashboard, it
>>> crashed FF and IE.
>>> Ah well, I'm gonna give it another coupla days before bothering...
>>
>> Neener neener neener!
>> http://blogs.oracle.com/Support/2009/11/
classic_metalinknanananahnana.html
>>
>> jg
>> --
>> @home.com is bogus.
>> http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/nov/10/feds-bust-atm-hacking-
ring-accused-of-stealing-9m/
>

> "In case you didn’t read in the FAQ – there will be an HTML version for


> anyone unable to use flash. Hint: If your browser allows flash, there

> isn’t an HTML option. You’ll have to figure out the rest."


>
> Well, I did! Enjoy:
>
> https://supporthtml.oracle.com/ep/faces/index.jspx
>
> And now we are waiting for commercial breaks every 4 to 5 minutes.....
>
> Shakespeare

Thanks! As for the commercial breaks, here is a really good commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNVOl5_3_Zo


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Mladen Gogala

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Nov 10, 2009, 4:52:32 PM11/10/09
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I couldn't hold this one for myself. I just couldn't:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aySEdLaEDc8

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Shakespeare

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Nov 10, 2009, 5:01:54 PM11/10/09
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Mladen Gogala schreef:

LOL: you need FLASH PLAYER to see it..... I just uninstalled that to see
the non-flash link on MOS...

Shakespeare

Mladen Gogala

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Nov 10, 2009, 5:38:36 PM11/10/09
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Firefox has an extension called "flashblock" which can block flash
selectively. Needless to say, if you don't unblock oracle.com, your
Firefox will work like a charm with the no-flash ML.


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Jonathan Lewis

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:00:23 PM11/10/09
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"gs" <g...@gs.com> wrote in message news:bOWJm.51232$Db2.9586@edtnps83...

>I have tried several times, just get a blank page with FF and a connection
>error on IE - latest flash player etc. is installed.
>
> Just curious if others are able to get in..
>

> cheers


It's beginning to sound like I'm the only person on the forums,
newsgroups, and list-servers not having problems.

I guess I must be the one holding the exclusive metalink lock.

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Jonathan Lewis
http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com

Author: Cost Based Oracle: Fundamentals
http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/cbo_book/ind_book.html

The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ
http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html


Cristian Cudizio

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Nov 11, 2009, 3:23:40 AM11/11/09
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On 11 Nov, 00:00, "Jonathan Lewis" <jonat...@jlcomp.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
> "gs" <g...@gs.com> wrote in messagenews:bOWJm.51232$Db2.9586@edtnps83...

> >I have tried several times, just get a blank page with FF and a connection
> >error on IE - latest flash player etc. is installed.
>
> > Just curious if others are able to get in..
>
> > cheers
>
> It's beginning to sound like I'm the only person on the forums,
> newsgroups, and list-servers not having problems.
>
> I guess I must be the one holding the exclusive metalink lock.
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Jonathan Lewishttp://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com
>
> Author: Cost Based Oracle: Fundamentalshttp://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/cbo_book/ind_book.html

>
> The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQhttp://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html


I don't like too much new look of My Oracle Support, sometimes login
requires a lot of time (it can take some minutes
showing the slogan "faster problem resolution" :) ). It seem to me
that situation here (in Italy) get worse on the
afternoon.

Regards,
Cristian

Jonathan Lewis

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Nov 11, 2009, 4:09:29 AM11/11/09
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"Cristian Cudizio" <cristian...@yahoo.it> wrote in message
news:9eb2f04f-28a4-4ce9...@g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

>
> I don't like too much new look of My Oracle Support, sometimes login
> requires a lot of time (it can take some minutes
> showing the slogan "faster problem resolution" :) ). It seem to me
> that situation here (in Italy) get worse on the
> afternoon.
>

That may simply be because the hardware is in the US, and the
Americans are just starting their day as the Italians are heading
into their afternoon.

Regards
Jonathan Lewis


Noons

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Nov 11, 2009, 5:31:41 AM11/11/09
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joel garry wrote,on my timestamp of 11/11/2009 6:18 AM:

How professional and respectful!

And here is my reply:
http://dbasrus.blogspot.com/2009/11/quite-frankly-warticki-you-should.html

Probably gonna ensure that I'll never receive one of their "awards".
Or indeed the promised "golf day" after we padded their pockets to the tune of 6
figure license fees and yearly maintenance updates...

(BTW, I never intended to accept the promise: it'd be unprofessional to do so.
Yes, I know, it's a quaint dba 1.0 concept, professionalism...)

But then again: since when did any of that stop me?
:)

Noons

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Nov 11, 2009, 5:33:39 AM11/11/09
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Jonathan Lewis wrote,on my timestamp of 11/11/2009 10:00 AM:

>
> It's beginning to sound like I'm the only person on the forums,
> newsgroups, and list-servers not having problems.

Likely. I've been using the MOS interface for months now, and it has been
notoriously reluctant to cooperate in the last few days. Leaving it alone until
it stabilizes into some semblance of usability...

> I guess I must be the one holding the exclusive metalink lock.

:)
10046 time?

Matthias Hoys

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Nov 11, 2009, 6:19:17 AM11/11/09
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"Cristian Cudizio" <cristian...@yahoo.it> wrote in message
news:9eb2f04f-28a4-4ce9...@g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

Here in Belgium login is also taking a long time... (well, longer than the
"old" Metalink). But once inside I didn't encounter any problems yet. And
all my bookmarks are there.

Matthias


Fred Pierce

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Nov 11, 2009, 8:43:39 AM11/11/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:18:55 +0000, Palooka <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:

Clippy

Steve Howard

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Nov 11, 2009, 9:06:47 AM11/11/09
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On Nov 9, 10:45 am, gs <g...@gs.com> wrote:
> I have tried several times, just get a blank page with FF and a
> connection error on IE - latest flash player etc. is installed.
>
> Just curious if others are able to get in..
>
> cheers

All,

Sorry for starting a new thread on this yesterday, this one completely
got past me. I finally got in last night around 8PM. This morning,
I'm getting no love.

I really think Oracle is getting too large for their own good. This
has to be one of the worst software project releases I have ever seen.

Regards,

Steve

joel garry

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Nov 11, 2009, 12:21:25 PM11/11/09
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On Nov 11, 2:31 am, Noons <wizofo...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> joel garry wrote,on my timestamp of 11/11/2009 6:18 AM:
>
>
>
> > Neener neener neener!http://blogs.oracle.com/Support/2009/11/classic_metalinknanananahnana...
>
> How professional and respectful!
>
> And here is my reply:http://dbasrus.blogspot.com/2009/11/quite-frankly-warticki-you-should...

Why don't you tell us what you really think? :-D

BTW, CW lined out the clueless word in the blog post. I think he was
trying to be funny, FWIW.

>
> Probably gonna ensure that I'll never receive one of their "awards".
> Or indeed the promised "golf day" after we padded their pockets to the tune of 6
> figure license fees and yearly maintenance updates...
>
> (BTW, I never intended to accept the promise: it'd be unprofessional to do so.
> Yes, I know, it's a quaint dba 1.0 concept, professionalism...)
>
> But then again: since when did any of that stop me?
> :)

I doubt if the guy will get fired, and he probably will deserve an
award having to be the face of this disaster. If I may dive into
improbable paranoia for a moment, I wonder if they purposely did this
before a bank holiday? For the information of those outside the US or
otherwise wouldn't know, today is Veterans Day.

jg
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"...trash pickup will be delayed one day."
Two different radio stations this morning.

The Boss

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Nov 11, 2009, 5:22:57 PM11/11/09
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joel garry wrote:
> On Nov 11, 2:31 am, Noons <wizofo...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> joel garry wrote,on my timestamp of 11/11/2009 6:18 AM:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Neener neener
>>> neener!http://blogs.oracle.com/Support/2009/11/classic_metalinknanananahnana...
>>
>> How professional and respectful!
>>
>> And here is my
>> reply:http://dbasrus.blogspot.com/2009/11/quite-frankly-warticki-you-should...
>
> Why don't you tell us what you really think? :-D
>
> BTW, CW lined out the clueless word in the blog post. I think he was
> trying to be funny, FWIW.
>

CW actually apologised:
http://blogs.oracle.com/Support/2009/11/oracle_customer_support_ok_i_t.html

Probably after reading this article in CW (!):
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9140613/Users_call_new_Oracle_support_portal_a_fiasco_?taxonomyId=1

BTW: I must have been very lucky; I didn't try to login to MOS until 10
minutes ago, and got in like a flash ...
(which is to say: it is performing the same as it was doing 1 or 2 weeks
ago, which is worse than Classic ML, but acceptable for my limited needs)

Cheers!

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Jeroen

The Boss

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Nov 11, 2009, 5:40:00 PM11/11/09
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Jonathan Lewis wrote:
> "gs" <g...@gs.com> wrote in message
> news:bOWJm.51232$Db2.9586@edtnps83...
>> I have tried several times, just get a blank page with FF and a
>> connection error on IE - latest flash player etc. is installed.
>>
>> Just curious if others are able to get in..
>>
>> cheers
>
>
> It's beginning to sound like I'm the only person on the forums,
> newsgroups, and list-servers not having problems.
>
> I guess I must be the one holding the exclusive metalink lock.

Typical case of a Writer blocking Readers? ...
(d&r)

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Jeroen


Noons

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Nov 11, 2009, 6:54:29 PM11/11/09
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On Nov 12, 9:22 am, "The Boss" <use...@No.Spam.Please.invalid> wrote:


> >> And here is my
> >> reply:http://dbasrus.blogspot.com/2009/11/quite-frankly-warticki-you-should...
>
> > Why don't you tell us what you really think? :-D

I just did...
;)

> > BTW, CW lined out the clueless word in the blog post.  I think he was
> > trying to be funny, FWIW.

Ah yes, the revisionism started. Good thing I saved the page at the
right time. Nothing like a bit of true history.

> CW actually apologised:http://blogs.oracle.com/Support/2009/11/oracle_customer_support_ok_i_...

Good on him! He also apologized in my blog, read the comments.
Needlessly: it's to clients he has to do so, I'm just the "Negative
Nellie"...


> Probably after reading this article in CW (!):http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9140613/Users_call_new_Oracle_...

Most unfortunate, really. Why is it that other companies don't have
these kind of problems?

A hint would be: they LISTEN to their customers, instead of spending
huge marketing budgets deriding them.


> BTW: I must have been very lucky; I didn't try to login to MOS until 10
> minutes ago, and got in like a flash ...
> (which is to say: it is performing the same as it was doing 1 or 2 weeks
> ago,  which is worse than Classic ML, but acceptable for my limited needs)

Oh, I fully expect everyone from now on to all of a sudden have great
results and no problems whatsoever.
That was, however, hardly the point...

Noons

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On Nov 12, 9:40 am, "The Boss" <use...@No.Spam.Please.invalid> wrote:

>
> > I guess I must be the one holding the exclusive metalink lock.
>
> Typical case of a Writer blocking Readers? ...
> (d&r)

You sir, owe me a bottle of screen cleaner fluid!

Mladen Gogala

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Nov 13, 2009, 10:50:51 AM11/13/09
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HTML version no longer has my favorites. It looks that we are to be
punished for preferring HTML.

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Frank van Bortel

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Nov 18, 2009, 9:23:24 AM11/18/09
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Steve Howard wrote:
<snip!>

> I really think Oracle is getting too large for their own good. This
> has to be one of the worst software project releases I have ever seen.

Looks like Larry is getting ready to sell to Bill?

More eye candy than contents.
Oracle: look at Google! Why do you think Google was a hit to start
with? Yup! A clean and mean, no flashy interface.

--

Regards,
Frank van Bortel

Frank van Bortel

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Nov 18, 2009, 9:47:51 AM11/18/09
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No - there was a problem with your (and mine, and
everybody's) favorites. The should be converted from
the old system by Nov, 9th. But if you checked your
favs in that period (nov 6-9), oracle "assumes you
added new, and will not convert the old".
Great... I ran into the sequence of being forced
to go to MOS on Nov 6th. Checked my favs - gone!
Checked faq's and found above comment. Ergo: all
favs gone.

Had nothing to do with flash or html version - just
tried html today (luckily the old Patchset links are
unchanged in the html version), with the
same link above

Tip when stuck at 90%: keep hitting refresh!

Steve Howard

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Nov 18, 2009, 10:21:48 AM11/18/09
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On Nov 18, 9:23 am, Frank van Bortel <frank.van.bor...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Another one to add to the list. Currently, no searches work for me on
MOS with Firefox or IE. This is a really surreal experience. I know
it is rhetorical, but how on earth was this released?!!

hpuxrac

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Nov 18, 2009, 5:56:06 PM11/18/09
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On Nov 18, 10:21 am, Steve Howard <stevedhow...@gmail.com> wrote:

snip

> Another one to add to the list.  Currently, no searches work for me on
> MOS with Firefox or IE.  This is a really surreal experience.

Searches are working for me ... can you give a specific example of a
search that fails so I can try to reproduce?

Steve Howard

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Nov 19, 2009, 3:08:56 PM11/19/09
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This one turned out to be just interminable slowness. There is a
small flash "spinning gizmo" on the right side of the page that I
missed, so it looked like it was an empty page.

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