Ok, just WTF is going on ??????? somebody pls tell me !
Where do all of these Indian headhunters come from all of a sudden ?
I started looking recently after < 3 years and like 95% of the contacts I been getting via Monster are from Indians and most of them I spoke with have that heavy accent, and many of them just plain can not talk.
It's so drastically different from my past experience it seems rather weird.
> Ok, just WTF is going on ??????? somebody pls tell me !
> Where do all of these Indian headhunters come from all of a sudden ?
> I started looking recently after < 3 years and like 95% of the contacts > I been getting via Monster are from Indians and most of them I spoke > with have that heavy accent, and many of them just plain can not talk.
> It's so drastically different from my past experience it seems rather > weird.
And this relates to Oracle how?
And why is the national, cultural, ethnic, or other background of the headhunter an issue? -- Daniel A. Morgan University of Washington damor...@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond) Puget Sound Oracle Users Group www.psoug.org
> Ok, just WTF is going on ??????? somebody pls tell me !
> Where do all of these Indian headhunters come from all of a sudden ?
> I started looking recently after < 3 years and like 95% of the contacts > I been getting via Monster are from Indians and most of them I spoke > with have that heavy accent, and many of them just plain can not talk.
> It's so drastically different from my past experience it seems rather > weird.
I speculate it's what happened to all the H1-B's when they were no longer "needed," and their relatives sponsored by them. But even breathing such a thought will upset half the Indian subcontinent, so don't tell anybody. Not only can they not talk, from what I've been getting, they can't read either. Probably some are self-styled entrepreneurs trying to set up body shops just like they did in Bangalore.
Then again, very few headhunters of any stripe have ever been any good for me. The ones that have get my repeat business - though that never seems to work, either. I do miss the good old days when _they_ would make pretty resumes. This being treated like a soup can on a shelf bites. I don't believe I have ever gotten any work after filling out proprietary format resumes. Anyone else have?
DA Morgan wrote: > meathammer wrote: > > (this is regarding US market)
> > Ok, just WTF is going on ??????? somebody pls tell me !
> > Where do all of these Indian headhunters come from all of a sudden ?
> > I started looking recently after < 3 years and like 95% of the contacts > > I been getting via Monster are from Indians and most of them I spoke > > with have that heavy accent, and many of them just plain can not talk.
> > It's so drastically different from my past experience it seems rather > > weird.
> And this relates to Oracle how?
One can assume from the group posted it relates to Oracle, finding a job, discussion.
> And why is the national, cultural, ethnic, or other background of the > headhunter an issue?
If all of a sudden the process of finding a job becomes more difficult due to a large proportion of bogus usage of Monster by people with certain backgrounds, that is a legitimate issue. It is especially relevant if a small number of idiots make the largest proportion of responses, unfairly making all members of a group look bad, wouldn't you agree? Personally, I would like to figure out a way to educate these idiots and improve the process, and I don't mean that sarcastically. Somewhat like in a newsgroup, there is a lot of monkey-see, monkey-do among these folk, and simply ignoring such a dynamic does not extinguish it.
joel garry wrote: > DA Morgan wrote: >> meathammer wrote: >>> (this is regarding US market)
>>> Ok, just WTF is going on ??????? somebody pls tell me !
>>> Where do all of these Indian headhunters come from all of a sudden ?
>>> I started looking recently after < 3 years and like 95% of the contacts >>> I been getting via Monster are from Indians and most of them I spoke >>> with have that heavy accent, and many of them just plain can not talk.
>>> It's so drastically different from my past experience it seems rather >>> weird. >> And this relates to Oracle how?
> One can assume from the group posted it relates to Oracle, finding a > job, discussion.
>> And why is the national, cultural, ethnic, or other background of the >> headhunter an issue?
> If all of a sudden the process of finding a job becomes more difficult > due to a large proportion of bogus usage of Monster by people with > certain backgrounds, that is a legitimate issue. It is especially > relevant if a small number of idiots make the largest proportion of > responses, unfairly making all members of a group look bad, wouldn't > you agree? Personally, I would like to figure out a way to educate > these idiots and improve the process, and I don't mean that > sarcastically. Somewhat like in a newsgroup, there is a lot of > monkey-see, monkey-do among these folk, and simply ignoring such a > dynamic does not extinguish it.
I am fully appreciative of the points you raise but I notice that you did so without the ethnic connotation which was what I objected to. -- Daniel A. Morgan University of Washington damor...@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond) Puget Sound Oracle Users Group www.psoug.org
> And why is the national, cultural, ethnic, or other background of the > headhunter an issue?
<sigh> guessed this would come up but just not the 1st reply haha. no, not an "issue" at all....just so very different so sudden. It's like you don't follow sports at all for a couple years and "suddenly" one day you notice 90% of the NBA players are Mexicans ! OK i guess, but just you-know-what-I-mean ;)
meathammer wrote: > "DA Morgan" >> And this relates to Oracle how?
> Oracle-realted jobs
>> And why is the national, cultural, ethnic, or other background of the >> headhunter an issue?
> <sigh> guessed this would come up but just not the 1st reply haha. > no, not an "issue" at all....just so very different so sudden. > It's like you don't follow sports at all for a couple years > and "suddenly" one day you notice 90% of the NBA players are Mexicans ! > OK i guess, but just you-know-what-I-mean ;)
The NBA used to be an all-white club: That is no longer the case. The ethnic make-up of recruiters is and will continue to change. That is a given.
The reason I objected to this when I said "Oracle how" is that these are not just Oracle recruiters. They are technology recruiters. It is not the case that all Oracle recruiters have one ethnic makeup and C and Java recruiters are another. Equally you bringing up the fact that they were from country X rather than Y seemed provocative and I thought a bucket of cold water appropriate. -- Daniel A. Morgan University of Washington damor...@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond) Puget Sound Oracle Users Group www.psoug.org
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