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russel...@gmail.com
Mar 22, 2013, 12:48:47 PM3/22/13
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May 3, 2013 in Orlando, Florida, 8 AM to 2PM.
Presenters Chris Eaton, Danny Arnold and Eric Alton are not to be missed!
This event is being sponsored by IDUG and is a nice supplement to extend and update your DB2 for LUW skills at the same time you enjoy all the IDUG congference has to offer. But, if you cannot make the IDUG conference, you are still able to attend this workshop.
We'll cover all the hot topics you care about: compression, performance, availability and more. We'll cover the basics and much more. Full details: http://www.idug.org/p/cm/ld/fid=284
Register soon as space is limited.
Presenters Chris Eaton, Danny Arnold and Eric Alton are not to be missed!
This event is being sponsored by IDUG and is a nice supplement to extend and update your DB2 for LUW skills at the same time you enjoy all the IDUG congference has to offer. But, if you cannot make the IDUG conference, you are still able to attend this workshop.
We'll cover all the hot topics you care about: compression, performance, availability and more. We'll cover the basics and much more. Full details: http://www.idug.org/p/cm/ld/fid=284
Register soon as space is limited.
Helmut Tessarek
Mar 22, 2013, 1:02:37 PM3/22/13
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> Register soon as space is limited.
Unfortunately with all the travel restrictions at IBM, I don't get the
approval. It would be nice to connect with customers and DBAs at such events
though...
--
Helmut K. C. Tessarek
DB2 Performance and Development
IBM Toronto Lab
Mladen Gogala
Mar 23, 2013, 4:43:28 PM3/23/13
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troublesome to reach, as it is not on NYC subway network. Unfortunately,
we in small town America, like New York City, don't have our own IDUG,
according to this page:
http://www.idug.org/p/cm/ld/fid=185&ic11=12&commid=147
I must say that I'm perplexed by the fact that there is a New England IDUG
and there isn't a New York City one. After all, we're talking about the
place who sold their star pitcher and batter to finance a musical named
"No, No Nanette". They get an IDUG, and we don't?
--
Mladen Gogala
The Oracle Whisperer
http://mgogala.byethost5.com
Larry
Mar 23, 2013, 5:44:58 PM3/23/13
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customers. In fact, there was just a meeting this past week. Meets once
per quarter. If you're interested: http://tridexdb2.natemurphy.net/ .
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Larry E.
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TheBoss
Mar 23, 2013, 7:21:26 PM3/23/13
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Mladen Gogala <gogala...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:pan.2013.03...@gmail.com:
There's only 1 IDUG (I for International), so the New England user group
isn't an IDUG but just a (local/regional) DUG.
The group for NY is the "Tri-State DB2 Technology Exchange (NY, NJ, CT)"
< http://www.idug.org/p/cm/ld/fid=185&ic11=12&commid=168 >
And user groups aren't 'institutionalised' from top to bottom, they are
built locally (by volunteers, with support from IDUG if needed).
--
Jeroen
news:pan.2013.03...@gmail.com:
isn't an IDUG but just a (local/regional) DUG.
The group for NY is the "Tri-State DB2 Technology Exchange (NY, NJ, CT)"
< http://www.idug.org/p/cm/ld/fid=185&ic11=12&commid=168 >
And user groups aren't 'institutionalised' from top to bottom, they are
built locally (by volunteers, with support from IDUG if needed).
--
Jeroen
TheBoss
Mar 23, 2013, 7:34:22 PM3/23/13
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Helmut Tessarek <tess...@evermeet.cx> wrote in
news:kii2rf$3g5$1...@news.albasani.net:
> On 22.03.13 12:48 , russel...@gmail.com wrote:
>> May 3, 2013 in Orlando, Florida, 8 AM to 2PM.
>> Register soon as space is limited.
>
> Unfortunately with all the travel restrictions at IBM, I don't get the
> approval. It would be nice to connect with customers and DBAs at such
> events though...
>
You still have exactly 1 day to submit a presentation for the IDUG EMEA
Conference in Barcelona, next October... ;-)
Hopefully I will get approval myself to attend, last opportunity I had was
Athens (Greece) in 2007...
--
Jeroen
news:kii2rf$3g5$1...@news.albasani.net:
> On 22.03.13 12:48 , russel...@gmail.com wrote:
>> May 3, 2013 in Orlando, Florida, 8 AM to 2PM.
>> Register soon as space is limited.
>
> Unfortunately with all the travel restrictions at IBM, I don't get the
> approval. It would be nice to connect with customers and DBAs at such
> events though...
>
Conference in Barcelona, next October... ;-)
Hopefully I will get approval myself to attend, last opportunity I had was
Athens (Greece) in 2007...
--
Jeroen
Helmut Tessarek
Mar 23, 2013, 8:05:49 PM3/23/13
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On 23.03.13 19:34 , TheBoss wrote:
> You still have exactly 1 day to submit a presentation for the IDUG EMEA
> Conference in Barcelona, next October... ;-)
> Hopefully I will get approval myself to attend, last opportunity I had was
> Athens (Greece) in 2007...
Hmm, I had submitted a presentation with a customer once. It got approved and
> You still have exactly 1 day to submit a presentation for the IDUG EMEA
> Conference in Barcelona, next October... ;-)
> Hopefully I will get approval myself to attend, last opportunity I had was
> Athens (Greece) in 2007...
1 week before the event it got cancelled (so were 70% of other IBMers
presentations). It was really awesome, because somebody from the conference
called me and told me that there were people waiting for my presentation.
They managed to cancel my flight and the hotel, but apparently didn't cancel
my session.
Being 2500km away didn't really help either.
Therefore I'm very careful submitting presentations again. Creating slides and
preparing for a presentation takes time and I have better things to do than
wasting my time just to get my presentation cancelled.
Mark A
Mar 23, 2013, 9:24:08 PM3/23/13
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On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 20:05:49 -0400, Helmut Tessarek wrote:
> Hmm, I had submitted a presentation with a customer once. It got
> approved and 1 week before the event it got cancelled (so were 70% of
> other IBMers presentations). It was really awesome, because somebody
> from the conference called me and told me that there were people waiting
> for my presentation. They managed to cancel my flight and the hotel, but
> apparently didn't cancel my session.
> Being 2500km away didn't really help either.
>
> Therefore I'm very careful submitting presentations again. Creating
> slides and preparing for a presentation takes time and I have better
> things to do than wasting my time just to get my presentation cancelled.
Last time I attended IDUG was about 3 years ago in Tampa. A few of the customer presentations were
> Hmm, I had submitted a presentation with a customer once. It got
> approved and 1 week before the event it got cancelled (so were 70% of
> other IBMers presentations). It was really awesome, because somebody
> from the conference called me and told me that there were people waiting
> for my presentation. They managed to cancel my flight and the hotel, but
> apparently didn't cancel my session.
> Being 2500km away didn't really help either.
>
> Therefore I'm very careful submitting presentations again. Creating
> slides and preparing for a presentation takes time and I have better
> things to do than wasting my time just to get my presentation cancelled.
pathetic. There was one presentation that was particularly bad (worst presentation of any kind
anywhere that I have ever heard), that I wanted to leave 5 minutes after it started, but I thought it
would be rude (I was near the front), but I regretted staying.
A few of the IBM presentations were nothing more than marketing pitches, using 80% of the same
slides as other IBM presentations during the same conference. But there were some good IBM
presentations, mostly by the DB2 architects and consultants. I don't think any IBM management should
be allowed to present, because it ends up being marketing BS. I will be attending in Orlando, and hope
the IDUG people have done a better job of screening presentations this time, but somehow I doubt it.
Mladen Gogala
Mar 23, 2013, 11:01:15 PM3/23/13
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On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 17:44:58 -0400, Larry wrote:
> There is a local DB2 User's Group that meets for NYC and vicinity
> customers. In fact, there was just a meeting this past week. Meets once
> per quarter. If you're interested: http://tridexdb2.natemurphy.net/ .
Yes, I am interested, thanks. I was afraid that I will have to dust off
> There is a local DB2 User's Group that meets for NYC and vicinity
> customers. In fact, there was just a meeting this past week. Meets once
> per quarter. If you're interested: http://tridexdb2.natemurphy.net/ .
my old "1918 - Rehearse the Curse" T-Shirts and go to NE.
Frederik Engelen
Mar 24, 2013, 6:43:23 AM3/24/13
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Disclaimer: I am part of the IDUG EMEA 2013 (aka Barcelona) Conference Planning Committee, this is my personal opinion but I risk being biased.
Jeroen,
Did you consider submitting an abstract? It's the best guarantee to be able to go, you surely have got the skills and it's been a long time since we met. Do you always pick out the conferences when they're in Southern Europe? ;-)
You won't be the only one there who is active on this list, by the way. Hope to see you there (presenting or not).
Helmut,
I think that's unheard of. I don't know what happened since I wasn't part of the organisation at that time. Too bad, too, since I think the labs' guys presentations are among the most valuable - especially the years when new stuff is announced - and it would be nice to meet you in person.
But it's indeed a lot of work, that's no secret. It is rewarding work, but when creating my first IDUG presentation it took me a while to figure that out :-)
Mark,
Sometimes a presentation looks better on paper than in real life and you get one that turns out bad, yes. and I also regretted going to some of them. That's the reality and a consequence of letting new members participate as well instead of playing safe and only invite experienced speakers. If you want to avoid marketing, the users are the best way to go. Last year's Berlin had a memorable moment to illustrate that. In my experience, most IBM labs guys are really open and enthousiastic and just want to get the word out on the technology they've been working on over the last years.
I hope Orlando will be a good experience, I would love to be able to go as well but the travel expenses are a bit too high to carry personally. Just make sure you fill out your evaluation forms in all honesty, that really helps those who do the screening next year ;-)
Kind regards,
Frederik
Jeroen,
Did you consider submitting an abstract? It's the best guarantee to be able to go, you surely have got the skills and it's been a long time since we met. Do you always pick out the conferences when they're in Southern Europe? ;-)
You won't be the only one there who is active on this list, by the way. Hope to see you there (presenting or not).
Helmut,
I think that's unheard of. I don't know what happened since I wasn't part of the organisation at that time. Too bad, too, since I think the labs' guys presentations are among the most valuable - especially the years when new stuff is announced - and it would be nice to meet you in person.
But it's indeed a lot of work, that's no secret. It is rewarding work, but when creating my first IDUG presentation it took me a while to figure that out :-)
Mark,
Sometimes a presentation looks better on paper than in real life and you get one that turns out bad, yes. and I also regretted going to some of them. That's the reality and a consequence of letting new members participate as well instead of playing safe and only invite experienced speakers. If you want to avoid marketing, the users are the best way to go. Last year's Berlin had a memorable moment to illustrate that. In my experience, most IBM labs guys are really open and enthousiastic and just want to get the word out on the technology they've been working on over the last years.
I hope Orlando will be a good experience, I would love to be able to go as well but the travel expenses are a bit too high to carry personally. Just make sure you fill out your evaluation forms in all honesty, that really helps those who do the screening next year ;-)
Kind regards,
Frederik
Helmut Tessarek
Mar 24, 2013, 7:05:08 PM3/24/13
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Hi Frederik,
On 24.03.13 6:43 , Frederik Engelen wrote:
> I think that's unheard of. I don't know what happened since I wasn't part
> of the organisation at that time. Too bad, too, since I think the labs'
> guys presentations are among the most valuable - especially the years when
> new stuff is announced - and it would be nice to meet you in person.
I'm not sure if it was an IDUG or some other conference.
I was rather speaking of conferences in general.
But you can be sure that I wouldn't have any marketing slides in my presentation.
I'm neither sales nor marketing. ;-) No further comment necessary.
On 24.03.13 6:43 , Frederik Engelen wrote:
> I think that's unheard of. I don't know what happened since I wasn't part
> of the organisation at that time. Too bad, too, since I think the labs'
> guys presentations are among the most valuable - especially the years when
> new stuff is announced - and it would be nice to meet you in person.
I was rather speaking of conferences in general.
But you can be sure that I wouldn't have any marketing slides in my presentation.
I'm neither sales nor marketing. ;-) No further comment necessary.
Larry
Mar 24, 2013, 10:47:59 PM3/24/13
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On 3/23/2013 11:01 PM, Mladen Gogala wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 17:44:58 -0400, Larry wrote:
>
>> There is a local DB2 User's Group that meets for NYC and vicinity
>> customers. In fact, there was just a meeting this past week. Meets once
>> per quarter. If you're interested: http://tridexdb2.natemurphy.net/ .
>
> Yes, I am interested, thanks. I was afraid that I will have to dust off
> my old "1918 - Rehearse the Curse" T-Shirts and go to NE.
>
>
>
I will try to remember to send you the announcement for the next meeting.
> On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 17:44:58 -0400, Larry wrote:
>
>> There is a local DB2 User's Group that meets for NYC and vicinity
>> customers. In fact, there was just a meeting this past week. Meets once
>> per quarter. If you're interested: http://tridexdb2.natemurphy.net/ .
>
> Yes, I am interested, thanks. I was afraid that I will have to dust off
> my old "1918 - Rehearse the Curse" T-Shirts and go to NE.
>
>
>
Mladen Gogala
Mar 25, 2013, 1:39:11 AM3/25/13
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 22:47:59 -0400, Larry wrote:
> On 3/23/2013 11:01 PM, Mladen Gogala wrote:
>> On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 17:44:58 -0400, Larry wrote:
>>
>>> There is a local DB2 User's Group that meets for NYC and vicinity
>>> customers. In fact, there was just a meeting this past week. Meets
>>> once per quarter. If you're interested:
>>> http://tridexdb2.natemurphy.net/ .
>>
>> Yes, I am interested, thanks. I was afraid that I will have to dust off
>> my old "1918 - Rehearse the Curse" T-Shirts and go to NE.
>>
>>
>>
> I will try to remember to send you the announcement for the next
> meeting.
Thanks Larry. I am trying to learn DB2 and am looking to attend few
> On 3/23/2013 11:01 PM, Mladen Gogala wrote:
>> On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 17:44:58 -0400, Larry wrote:
>>
>>> There is a local DB2 User's Group that meets for NYC and vicinity
>>> customers. In fact, there was just a meeting this past week. Meets
>>> once per quarter. If you're interested:
>>> http://tridexdb2.natemurphy.net/ .
>>
>> Yes, I am interested, thanks. I was afraid that I will have to dust off
>> my old "1918 - Rehearse the Curse" T-Shirts and go to NE.
>>
>>
>>
> I will try to remember to send you the announcement for the next
> meeting.
meetings and find someone who I can ask questions. Every database system
has something that may be called "spirit", in absence of a better word.
I've spent my whole career working on Oracle databases and now I work for
a consulting company which supports DB2. I was asked to learn
fundamentals of DB2, but, as it turns out, fundamentals are never enough.
Old oraclites, and I do belong to that category, having started with
Oracle 4 on Dos 3.3 and PC-XT with only 640KB RAM, are frequently very
belligerent and having closed mind, but I really do want to learn how does
DB2 do it. I have installed DB2 (Version 10.1.2, Express-C) on my PC (2
virtual machines) and I really like what I see so far. Is there a
possibility to test things like DPF down the line? What edition of DB2
would I have to buy to play a bit with DPF?
Helmut Tessarek
Mar 25, 2013, 2:25:31 AM3/25/13
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On 25.03.13 1:39 , Mladen Gogala wrote:
> Is there a
> possibility to test things like DPF down the line? What edition of DB2
> would I have to buy to play a bit with DPF?
DPF was bundled with ESE (although still priced separately), but now you need
> Is there a
> possibility to test things like DPF down the line? What edition of DB2
> would I have to buy to play a bit with DPF?
to get the Infosphere Warehouse Edition to get DPF.
Usually there is a 30 or 60-day trial available with all DB2 editions, so I'd
just download a trial to get started.
Or you could go to your local IBM representative and ask for a POC with DPF
(in most cases though the sales guys have to be convinced that you are rather
sincere with buying DPF).
Buying DPF just to play around might be a little bit expensive.
The rule of thumb is to use DPF for warehouses larger than 5 TB...
I'm sure that others in this newsgroup have more experience with licensing
issues and how to test DB2 properly.
A very interesting tool to test and learn new features of DB2 is the freely
available program called: The Technology Explorer for IBM DB2
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/db2mc/index.php?title=Main_Page
Mark A
Mar 25, 2013, 2:29:40 AM3/25/13
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On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 05:39:11 +0000, Mladen Gogala wrote:
> Is there
> a possibility to test things like DPF down the line? What edition of DB2
> would I have to buy to play a bit with DPF?
InfoSphere Warehouse Edition (DPF) has a Developer edition that costs abut $1800. It is basically ESE
> Is there
> a possibility to test things like DPF down the line? What edition of DB2
> would I have to buy to play a bit with DPF?
with the DPF feature license added.
Larry
Mar 25, 2013, 11:56:46 PM3/25/13
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links that I just recently sent a client of mine looking to "transfer
skills" from oracle to Db2:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/data/library/techarticle/dm-0401gupta/
http://www.channeldb2.com/events/oracle-and-db2-an
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/data/kits/dataprokit/index.html
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/data/db2virtualworkshop/index.html
TheBoss
Mar 28, 2013, 7:39:10 PM3/28/13
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Frederik Engelen <engelen...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:d79c28ed-87bd-4208...@googlegroups.com:
> Disclaimer: I am part of the IDUG EMEA 2013 (aka Barcelona) Conference
> Planning Committee, this is my personal opinion but I risk being
> biased.
Hey, didn't even noticed that, shame on me. Congrats!
>
> Jeroen,
>
> Did you consider submitting an abstract? It's the best guarantee to be
> able to go, you surely have got the skills and it's been a long time
> since we met./
Coming from someone with your knowledge and skills, I take that as a big
compliment.In the past I indeed have given it some consideration, but to
be honest: I don't see my self as a speaker for an IDUG audience. It
simply isn't in my nature to speak to an audience larger than a handful.
I rather would write an article (for a magazine or a blog or such) but
even then I would have difficulties of finding a subject that
a) I am able to write something interesting on.
b) isn't already covered by others.
c) wouldn't violate my NDA's with either my employer or more importantly
our customers I work for.
Another factor is that I have to divide my time between DB2 on z/OS and
DB2 on LUW (and until about 2 years ago also Oracle), which leaves ample
time to experiment with new features or such.
Not complaining though, I'm happy to still have a very fulfilling job...
> / Do you always pick out the conferences when they're in
> Southern Europe? ;-)
What's wrong with:
a) good weather
b) delicious food
c) help to balance the European economy between North&South ;-)
Having said that...
I visited IDUG Athens in 2007 and according Wikipedia:
"After 14 consecutive years of economic growth, Greece went into
recession in 2008."
May be that's why I am not allowed to visit IDUG since... ;-)
>
> You won't be the only one there who is active on this list, by the
> way. Hope to see you there (presenting or not).
>
[...]
Regards,
--
Jeroen
news:d79c28ed-87bd-4208...@googlegroups.com:
> Disclaimer: I am part of the IDUG EMEA 2013 (aka Barcelona) Conference
> Planning Committee, this is my personal opinion but I risk being
> biased.
>
> Jeroen,
>
> Did you consider submitting an abstract? It's the best guarantee to be
> able to go, you surely have got the skills and it's been a long time
Coming from someone with your knowledge and skills, I take that as a big
compliment.In the past I indeed have given it some consideration, but to
be honest: I don't see my self as a speaker for an IDUG audience. It
simply isn't in my nature to speak to an audience larger than a handful.
I rather would write an article (for a magazine or a blog or such) but
even then I would have difficulties of finding a subject that
a) I am able to write something interesting on.
b) isn't already covered by others.
c) wouldn't violate my NDA's with either my employer or more importantly
our customers I work for.
Another factor is that I have to divide my time between DB2 on z/OS and
DB2 on LUW (and until about 2 years ago also Oracle), which leaves ample
time to experiment with new features or such.
Not complaining though, I'm happy to still have a very fulfilling job...
> / Do you always pick out the conferences when they're in
> Southern Europe? ;-)
What's wrong with:
a) good weather
b) delicious food
c) help to balance the European economy between North&South ;-)
Having said that...
I visited IDUG Athens in 2007 and according Wikipedia:
"After 14 consecutive years of economic growth, Greece went into
recession in 2008."
May be that's why I am not allowed to visit IDUG since... ;-)
>
> You won't be the only one there who is active on this list, by the
> way. Hope to see you there (presenting or not).
>
Regards,
--
Jeroen
Frederik Engelen
Apr 6, 2013, 6:08:04 AM4/6/13
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Nice to hear that. Hope to see you some day in the near future.
--
Frederik Engelen
russel...@gmail.com
Apr 10, 2013, 3:36:02 PM4/10/13
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On Friday, March 22, 2013 12:48:47 PM UTC-4, russel...@gmail.com wrote:
> May 3, 2013 in Orlando, Florida, 8 AM to 2PM. Presenters Chris Eaton, Danny Arnold and Eric Alton are not to be missed! This event is being sponsored by IDUG and is a nice supplement to extend and update your DB2 for LUW skills at the same time you enjoy all the IDUG congference has to offer. But, if you cannot make the IDUG conference, you are still able to attend this workshop. We'll cover all the hot topics you care about: compression, performance, availability and more. We'll cover the basics and much more. Full details: http://www.idug.org/p/cm/ld/fid=284 Register soon as space is limited.
All
> May 3, 2013 in Orlando, Florida, 8 AM to 2PM. Presenters Chris Eaton, Danny Arnold and Eric Alton are not to be missed! This event is being sponsored by IDUG and is a nice supplement to extend and update your DB2 for LUW skills at the same time you enjoy all the IDUG congference has to offer. But, if you cannot make the IDUG conference, you are still able to attend this workshop. We'll cover all the hot topics you care about: compression, performance, availability and more. We'll cover the basics and much more. Full details: http://www.idug.org/p/cm/ld/fid=284 Register soon as space is limited.
Very lively discussion here on a post of one workshop on DB2 LUW. I love it!
A few points:
-- Chris Eaton is an excellent presenter in this session. There will be no "marketing BS" from him. He is a long-time DB2 expert and a very interesting presenter. Danny Arnold is also a long-time DB2 expert. Eric is from IBM labs and developed some of the features that he is presenting -- so you are hearing the story first hand.
-- You can attend this workshop only if you choose, but you have to be in Orlando to do so.
-- Travel budgets being what they are, the other option you have is a shorter (90 min) technical webcast that covers similar topics without leaving your desk. Link: bit.ly/tt2013may8 (see my next post)
-- I love the perspective that customer presentations bring. True some people are not as experienced at presenting as others. We would love to hear from those of you who use the product. Opportunities for you to present are at other idug.org events coming up later in the year, at regional user groups, and also at the IBM Information on Demand Conference later this year.
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