On Apr 2, 1:18 pm, Cydrome Leader <prese...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
> In rec.crafts.metalworking jon_banquer <
jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Apr 2, 11:27?am, Cydrome Leader <prese...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
> >> In rec.crafts.metalworking jon_banquer <
jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >> > On Apr 1, 7:12?pm, Cydrome Leader <prese...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
> >> >> In rec.crafts.metalworking jon_banquer <
jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >> >> > is a story of what happens when you bring in traditional automotive
> >> >> > executives that have been in the automotive business forever and try
> >> >> > and combine them them with those who have truly revolutionary new
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http://jalopnik.com/5405602/aptera-founders-ousted-in-boardroom-showdown
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> >> >> no suprise here.
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> >> >> What did the person who hired the dinosaur think would happen?
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> >> > Before Paul Wilber destroyed Aptera he destroyed Saleen.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saleen
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> >> > I still l have a few prints of some of the magnesium parts I
> >> > programmed and machined for the Saleen S7-R.
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> >> I just came across a copy of a memo from corporate plunderer types that
> >> tookover a company I worked for. It uses rediculous MBA-speak to outline
> >> how to fire all the founders, then the managers then the workers.
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> > What you wrote above is now a very familiar story all across America.
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http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1070490_aptera-collapse-how-why-i...
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> > Trica Fambro, electrical engineer, former Aptera employee, and wife of
> > Aptera founder Steve Fambro:
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> > "Can't take comments from Paul (Wilber) or Marques at face value. If I
> > hadn't had worked with them and been witness to their actions and read
> > their board presentations, I may have given them the benefit of the
> > doubt. It's very sad existence, but they lie as easily as they
> > breathe. They would have gained the respect of the fans had they been
> > honest about their xprize performance, refunding the deposits, etc.,
> > but it was always spin and more spin. Not sure if they know how to do
> > anything different."
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> > "It was an interesting and awful experience, but I'm hopeful something
> > good may come of Aptera now that Paul is gone. Paul did finally admit
> > he made a mistake putting all of Aptera's eggs in the DOE basket, but
> > now he's going for the humble, fall-on-your-sword, approach with the
> > press in hopes of getting another job. I'm not surprised a bit."
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> whoops, somebody forgot a car company exists to make cars, not look for
> grant handout money.
http://venturebeat.com/2010/02/02/ev-maker-aptera-in-disarray-as-founders-fade-away-2/
"While Fambro and Anthony have retained their seats on the Carlsbad,
Calif. company’s board of directors, they have little say in day-to-
day decision making, even though it was their original vision. These
responsibilities have fallen to Aptera’s new CEO Paul Wilbur — one of
the main sources of conflict with the original leadership team (though
it remains uncertain why the rift occurred).
Shortly after Fambro and Anthony departed in November, Aptera
announced major delays in its production schedule."
http://www.apteraforum.com/showthread.php?t=5009
"Hi Guys,
I'm not sure how many visit this place anymore, but I thought you'd
find this interesting.
Most of you know the VW 1L concept car was my personal inspiration to
start Aptera. No joke. I analyzed that car, I studied it, I made
MATLAB models. Around 2008/2009 I saw in the press) that the concept
had been being quietly developed and shown at the Dubai auto show,
where VW announced plans to build it. I believed it was real and that
it was a potential threat to Aptera and Chris and I used it and many
other reasons to lobby to begin production and stop screwing around
with Detroit style drinkholders.
Paul convinced the board that it wasn't real, it wasn't a threat and
that it's just Steve and Chris being Steve and Chris. He knew
better...being the builder of the SSR and all :-) "
http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/future-cars/spy-shots/caught-testing-2014-volkswagen-xl1
"As we've already pointed out – and VW will happily remind you – the
XL1 has been engineered to return 235-mpg. A low curb weight and
slippery aerodynamics are going to be hugely important, though we have
no reason to doubt the teardrop shape of this prototype can deliver on
VW's promise of an outstanding drag coefficient of only 0.186."
"A curb weight of 1,749 lbs. has been made possible by the use of
lightweight materials, most likely copious amounts aluminum and carbon
fiber. Only 23.2-percent of the XL1 will be made out of steel or
iron."