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jon_banquer
Oct 4, 2012, 1:44:24 AM10/4/12
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The only place you will find it is on the CADCAM Technology Leaders
group on LinkedIn.
group on LinkedIn.
jonny bonkers
Oct 4, 2012, 7:47:12 PM10/4/12
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HERE'S THE "REAL" UGLY TRUTH ABOUT HSMWORKS:
"Who I'm working with to deliver what truly will be the next
generation of CAM: www.hsmworks.com" -Jon Banquer-
"I understand why your shop did not go with HSMWorks. We have a lot of
work to do." -Jon Banquer-
"Jon is not affiliated with HSMWorks ApS in any way and that we cannot
control what people are writing on the web. Anybody can get
evaluation licenses of HSMWorks and test it themselves. I hope this
clarifies any doubt." - HSMWorks ApS -
"Who I'm working with to deliver what truly will be the next
generation of CAM: www.hsmworks.com" -Jon Banquer-
"I understand why your shop did not go with HSMWorks. We have a lot of
work to do." -Jon Banquer-
"Jon is not affiliated with HSMWorks ApS in any way and that we cannot
control what people are writing on the web. Anybody can get
evaluation licenses of HSMWorks and test it themselves. I hope this
clarifies any doubt." - HSMWorks ApS -
jon_banquer
Oct 4, 2012, 8:34:32 PM10/4/12
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jonny bonkers
Oct 4, 2012, 8:50:45 PM10/4/12
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Hey NutJob, You said in another post, "I have never lied on
Usenet". Seems like that Lie was just another one of your hundreds
of lies on Usenet like the MONSTER LIE you told below about "Working
for HSMWorks" until HSMWorks management called you out on that LIE.
You had no affiliation with HSMWorks then or ever. Your pants are on
fire YA FREAKIN LIAR. BWAHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAA !
What a WhackJob you are, a total WhackJob!
Usenet". Seems like that Lie was just another one of your hundreds
of lies on Usenet like the MONSTER LIE you told below about "Working
for HSMWorks" until HSMWorks management called you out on that LIE.
You had no affiliation with HSMWorks then or ever. Your pants are on
fire YA FREAKIN LIAR. BWAHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAA !
What a WhackJob you are, a total WhackJob!
jon_banquer
Oct 4, 2012, 9:10:01 PM10/4/12
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jonny bonkers
Oct 5, 2012, 6:13:31 AM10/5/12
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jon_banquer
Oct 5, 2012, 10:48:11 AM10/5/12
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On Oct 4, 6:10 pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The only place you will find it is on the CADCAM Technology Leaders
> group on LinkedIn.
New comments added this morning.
> The only place you will find it is on the CADCAM Technology Leaders
> group on LinkedIn.
jon_banquer
Oct 5, 2012, 11:52:23 AM10/5/12
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jon_banquer
Oct 6, 2012, 3:23:20 PM10/6/12
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jon_banquer
Oct 8, 2012, 4:43:56 PM10/8/12
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"I too have lead friends to this CAM solution. I feel like I have been
s@#T on, mislead, you name it."
"it will be a cold day in Hell before I ever would consider another
3rd party CAM solution again."
jon_banquer
Oct 8, 2012, 7:27:55 PM10/8/12
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On Oct 3, 10:44 pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The only place you will find it is on the CADCAM Technology Leaders
> group on LinkedIn.
Major updates now posted to the CADCAM Technology Leaders group on
> The only place you will find it is on the CADCAM Technology Leaders
> group on LinkedIn.
jon_banquer
Oct 11, 2012, 8:17:00 PM10/11/12
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relationship with HSMWorks. Well, now you have someone who backs up
what I've been saying were serious problems with HSMWorks for the last
year on many independent blogs:
http://www.mecsoft.com/blog/hsmworks-acquired-by-autodesk/
In Tom Brewer's world what's true yesterday has to be true today or
tomorrow. The CADCAM world simply doesn't work like this. At one
point, HSMWorks has a lot of promise. When it because obvious to me
that HSMWorks was making all the wrong moves and wasn't serious about
proper documentation or proper marketing I cut my ties and moved on.
Unfortunately, people like Tom Brewer are too stupid to understand how
the CADCAM industry really works and that a product that's good today
doesn't guarantee that it will be good tomorrow.
In the case of HSMWorks, my track record of posting to blogs on the
problems with HSMWorks for at least the last year shows I knew exactly
what I was talking about and that what I had to say about HSMWorks was
dead nuts on.
The CADCAM Technology Leaders group on LinkedIn will continue to be
the best place to read about HSMWorks and why they really had to sell
out as well as what's going to happen to some of their former
resellers, etc.
jonny bonkers
Oct 12, 2012, 7:31:26 PM10/12/12
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> When it because obvious to me
> that HSMWorks was making all the wrong moves and wasn't serious about
> proper documentation or proper marketing I cut my ties and moved on. - Jon Banquer
> that HSMWorks was making all the wrong moves and wasn't serious about
"Jon is not affiliated with HSMWorks ApS in any way and that we cannot
clarifies any doubt." - HSMWorks ApS
Kinda says it all, doesn't it. Liar, Liar, pants on fire.
BWAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAH
jon_banquer
Oct 12, 2012, 8:05:39 PM10/12/12
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jon_banquer
Oct 16, 2012, 5:38:45 PM10/16/12
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SolidWorks has now stripped HSMWorks of the ability to sell OEM
versions of SolidWorks.
brewertr
Oct 16, 2012, 11:20:05 PM10/16/12
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> For years lying shit bags like Tom Brewer have tried to distort my
> relationship with HSMWorks.
LOL.....distort by quoting you and HSMWorks.............how is that
> relationship with HSMWorks.
distorting, how exactly is that lying?
"Who I'm working with to deliver what truly will be the next
generation of CAM: www.hsmworks.com" -Jon Banquer-
"I understand why your shop did not go with HSMWorks. We have a lot of
work to do." -Jon Banquer-
"Jon is not affiliated with HSMWorks ApS in any way and that we cannot
control what people are writing on the web. Anybody can get
evaluation licenses of HSMWorks and test it themselves. I hope this
clarifies any doubt." - HSMWorks ApS -
Or your claims you never post using fake/false names;
[
UPDATE -- July 8, 2007 -- I had to close this blog post to further
comments and to remove the personal attacks between Jon and some other
newsgroups readers. Before the interview, I made an agreement with Jon
about the style of the interview and the way to handle it. Jon didn't
respect our agreement, posting comments under fake names. Jon's
authentic and fake comments are all posted from the same IP address,
72.199.251.224. I can now see that my trust in Jon was misplaced.
]-Franco Folini-
> In Tom Brewer's world what's true yesterday has to be true today or
> tomorrow. The CADCAM world simply doesn't work like this. At one
> point, HSMWorks has a lot of promise.
bandwagons particularly without understanding or first hand experience
and it's funny watching you fall off and get run over by them on a
regular basis.
jon_banquer
Oct 16, 2012, 11:24:36 PM10/16/12
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Folini?
http://cadcamtechnologyleaders.blogspot.com/p/cadcam-marketing.html
jon_banquer
Oct 16, 2012, 11:25:21 PM10/16/12
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brewertr
Oct 18, 2012, 3:47:25 AM10/18/12
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jon_banquer_HSM Team Member_ wrote:
"OneCNC he has delivered on creating a good CADCAM system." - Jon
Banquer - Aug 23, 2003
"OneCNC looks good." - Jon Banquer - Aug 31 2003
"My advice would be to get your feet wet with a bargain basement
CAD/CAM system such as OneCNC." - Jon Banquer - May 7, 2005
"OneCNC has a good product" - Jon Banquer - May 11 2005
"Companies like OneCNC have proven you can be a successful company
without really targeting Auto and Aero." - Jon Banquer - July 30,
2006
"OneCNC needs major work!" - Jon Banquer - Jan 14, 2007
"It seems that OneCNC is so bad" "Since I've had to use this piece of
crap" - Jon Banquer - June 30, 2007
"You deserve to get fucked if you think Onecnc can hold a candle to
any of the packages you named." - Jon Banquer - Aug 19, 2007
> Ignorant:
"it's amazing how much better SmartCAM's UI still is." - Jon Banquer -
"SmartCAM badly needs a UI makeover" -Jon Banquer -
> Ignorant:
"May I remind you that your an anonymous loser who is too chicken shit
to post with his own name." - Jon Banquer - Dec 24 2006
Franco Folini UPDATE -- July 8, 2007 -- "Jon didn't respect our
SolidWorks 2007 Bible "the content is just superb!" - Jon Banquer -
Aug 8, 2007
To the author SolidWorks 2007 Bible "I should knock down 200 or so
pages this week. Which still won't get me to Multibodies! Just fucking
ridiculous, Matt." - Jon Banquer - Aug 19-2007
> Ignorant:
"John Carroll is probably the best thing that has ever happened to
U.S. Vero" - Jon Banquer - June 16, 2001
"the type of scumbag that John Carroll is... which is why he can't
sell jack shit" - Jon Banquer -
> Ignorant:
"You never chain geometry in Gibbs or SmartCAM. It's not necessary."
-Jon Banquer - May 20, 2005
From the SmartCAM Manual "Create the elements in any order, and
sequence them later, using modeling tools such as Chain."
> Ignorant:
"I would strongly suggest you buy The SolidWorks Bible. It will give
you many insights into how SolidWorks works" - Jon Banquer - Aug 19,
2007
"For all your talk about design intent it's amazing how few examples
you actually give in the SolidWorks Bible on design intent. Why is
that fucktard?" - Jon Banquer - July 14, 2007
> Ignorant:
"For the record I like SolidWorks" April 10, 1998
"I'd hate to be using SolidWorks" - Jon Banquer - Jan 15, 2005
> Ignorant:
"Need I remind you that it's you who is too much of a pussy to say a
word to Bill Gibbs on how you really feel about his claims of no
chaining." - Jon Banquer - July 15, 2007
"Last time I saw Bill Gibbs at a trade show he almost pissed in his
pants... I went out of my way to be polite and not disturb his
presentation." - Jon Banquer - Aug 11, 2007
> Ignorant
"Lots of us "clueless renegades" around" - Jon Banquer - July 4, 2007
> Ignorant
[IMO, associativity between toolpath and geometry is the only way to
go! Saves major time when changes occur... and they always seem to
occur. Associativity has no drawbacks that I know of. ] - Jon Banquer
[ This is the very same asshole who constantly makes the claim that
full associativity is always needed, despite being told numerous times
that it is, in FACT, not needed or desired in many cases !!!] - Jon
Banquer -
So which is it Jon?
Jon with his intellectual superiority and knowledge cannot be bound by
trivial constraints such experience, truth or consistency.
"SolidWorks has changed so much since I've been away from it and I
feel like I'm really far behind." - Jon Banquer - Aug. 8, 2007
"It takes a lot of effort to really understand SolidWorks." - Jon
Banquer - Aug 8, 2007
"Have plenty of clients that want stuff done in SolidWorks and I have
to focus my time there. - Jon Banquer - machine operator - Aug 11,
2007
Lot of people hiring machine operators with no experience or education
in drafting, designing or engineering to draw up their parts? Lots of
blocks with drilled holes?
To Matt, SolidWorks 2007 Bible Author "You don't have the broad based
CADCAM background I have and so you're ignorant on how other CADCAM
modelers work." -Jon Banquer-
"Never made this claim. Got proof that I have said I'm an expert user"
- Jon Banquer - July 21, 2007
"SolidWorks users are not savvy enough to understand why Usenet is
valuable compared to the overly moderated Eng-Tips" - Jon Banquer-
"To answer your question I have never worked in a sheet metal shop.
I'm not using the SolidWorks Flex Feature for sheet metal parts." -
Jon Banquer- Sept. 2007
The items you described Jon, where you recommend using the Flex
Feature "brackets, hangers" and other like suspension parts ARE sheet
metal parts.
Doh !!!!!!!
"OneCNC he has delivered on creating a good CADCAM system." - Jon
Banquer - Aug 23, 2003
"OneCNC looks good." - Jon Banquer - Aug 31 2003
"My advice would be to get your feet wet with a bargain basement
CAD/CAM system such as OneCNC." - Jon Banquer - May 7, 2005
"OneCNC has a good product" - Jon Banquer - May 11 2005
"Companies like OneCNC have proven you can be a successful company
without really targeting Auto and Aero." - Jon Banquer - July 30,
2006
"OneCNC needs major work!" - Jon Banquer - Jan 14, 2007
"It seems that OneCNC is so bad" "Since I've had to use this piece of
crap" - Jon Banquer - June 30, 2007
"You deserve to get fucked if you think Onecnc can hold a candle to
any of the packages you named." - Jon Banquer - Aug 19, 2007
> Ignorant:
"it's amazing how much better SmartCAM's UI still is." - Jon Banquer -
"SmartCAM badly needs a UI makeover" -Jon Banquer -
> Ignorant:
"May I remind you that your an anonymous loser who is too chicken shit
to post with his own name." - Jon Banquer - Dec 24 2006
Franco Folini UPDATE -- July 8, 2007 -- "Jon didn't respect our
agreement, posting comments under fake names."
> Ignorant:
SolidWorks 2007 Bible "the content is just superb!" - Jon Banquer -
Aug 8, 2007
To the author SolidWorks 2007 Bible "I should knock down 200 or so
pages this week. Which still won't get me to Multibodies! Just fucking
ridiculous, Matt." - Jon Banquer - Aug 19-2007
> Ignorant:
"John Carroll is probably the best thing that has ever happened to
U.S. Vero" - Jon Banquer - June 16, 2001
"the type of scumbag that John Carroll is... which is why he can't
sell jack shit" - Jon Banquer -
> Ignorant:
"You never chain geometry in Gibbs or SmartCAM. It's not necessary."
-Jon Banquer - May 20, 2005
From the SmartCAM Manual "Create the elements in any order, and
sequence them later, using modeling tools such as Chain."
> Ignorant:
"I would strongly suggest you buy The SolidWorks Bible. It will give
you many insights into how SolidWorks works" - Jon Banquer - Aug 19,
2007
"For all your talk about design intent it's amazing how few examples
you actually give in the SolidWorks Bible on design intent. Why is
that fucktard?" - Jon Banquer - July 14, 2007
> Ignorant:
"For the record I like SolidWorks" April 10, 1998
"I'd hate to be using SolidWorks" - Jon Banquer - Jan 15, 2005
> Ignorant:
"Need I remind you that it's you who is too much of a pussy to say a
word to Bill Gibbs on how you really feel about his claims of no
chaining." - Jon Banquer - July 15, 2007
"Last time I saw Bill Gibbs at a trade show he almost pissed in his
pants... I went out of my way to be polite and not disturb his
presentation." - Jon Banquer - Aug 11, 2007
> Ignorant
"Lots of us "clueless renegades" around" - Jon Banquer - July 4, 2007
> Ignorant
[IMO, associativity between toolpath and geometry is the only way to
go! Saves major time when changes occur... and they always seem to
occur. Associativity has no drawbacks that I know of. ] - Jon Banquer
[ This is the very same asshole who constantly makes the claim that
full associativity is always needed, despite being told numerous times
that it is, in FACT, not needed or desired in many cases !!!] - Jon
Banquer -
So which is it Jon?
Jon with his intellectual superiority and knowledge cannot be bound by
trivial constraints such experience, truth or consistency.
"SolidWorks has changed so much since I've been away from it and I
feel like I'm really far behind." - Jon Banquer - Aug. 8, 2007
"It takes a lot of effort to really understand SolidWorks." - Jon
Banquer - Aug 8, 2007
"Have plenty of clients that want stuff done in SolidWorks and I have
to focus my time there. - Jon Banquer - machine operator - Aug 11,
2007
Lot of people hiring machine operators with no experience or education
in drafting, designing or engineering to draw up their parts? Lots of
blocks with drilled holes?
To Matt, SolidWorks 2007 Bible Author "You don't have the broad based
CADCAM background I have and so you're ignorant on how other CADCAM
modelers work." -Jon Banquer-
"Never made this claim. Got proof that I have said I'm an expert user"
- Jon Banquer - July 21, 2007
"SolidWorks users are not savvy enough to understand why Usenet is
valuable compared to the overly moderated Eng-Tips" - Jon Banquer-
"To answer your question I have never worked in a sheet metal shop.
I'm not using the SolidWorks Flex Feature for sheet metal parts." -
Jon Banquer- Sept. 2007
The items you described Jon, where you recommend using the Flex
Feature "brackets, hangers" and other like suspension parts ARE sheet
metal parts.
Doh !!!!!!!
brewertr
Oct 18, 2012, 3:51:31 AM10/18/12
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On Oct 16, 8:24 pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Just how stupid and how wrong is Tom Brewer when it comes to Franco
> Folini?
>
> http://cadcamtechnologyleaders.blogspot.com/p/cadcam-marketing.html
You link to your own rant on your OWN blob? ROFLMAO, who you trying
>
> Just how stupid and how wrong is Tom Brewer when it comes to Franco
> Folini?
>
> http://cadcamtechnologyleaders.blogspot.com/p/cadcam-marketing.html
to fool, fool?
You're just pissed because Franco caught you breaking your word
(AGAIN).
jon_banquer
Oct 18, 2012, 4:21:47 AM10/18/12
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jon_banquer
Oct 18, 2012, 4:22:23 AM10/18/12
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brewertr
Oct 18, 2012, 8:33:07 AM10/18/12
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> For years lying shit bags like Tom Brewer have tried to distort my
> relationship with HSMWorks.
> relationship with HSMWorks.
LOL.....distort by quoting you and HSMWorks.............how is that
distorting, how exactly is that lying?
"Who I'm working with to deliver what truly will be the next
generation of CAM: www.hsmworks.com" -Jon Banquer-
"I understand why your shop did not go with HSMWorks. We have a lot of
work to do." -Jon Banquer-
"Jon is not affiliated with HSMWorks ApS in any way and that we cannot
control what people are writing on the web. Anybody can get
evaluation licenses of HSMWorks and test it themselves. I hope this
clarifies any doubt." - HSMWorks ApS -
Or your claims you never post using fake/false names;
[
distorting, how exactly is that lying?
"Who I'm working with to deliver what truly will be the next
generation of CAM: www.hsmworks.com" -Jon Banquer-
"I understand why your shop did not go with HSMWorks. We have a lot of
work to do." -Jon Banquer-
"Jon is not affiliated with HSMWorks ApS in any way and that we cannot
control what people are writing on the web. Anybody can get
evaluation licenses of HSMWorks and test it themselves. I hope this
clarifies any doubt." - HSMWorks ApS -
Or your claims you never post using fake/false names;
[
UPDATE -- July 8, 2007 -- I had to close this blog post to further
comments and to remove the personal attacks between Jon and some other
newsgroups readers. Before the interview, I made an agreement with Jon
about the style of the interview and the way to handle it. Jon didn't
respect our agreement, posting comments under fake names. Jon's
authentic and fake comments are all posted from the same IP address,
72.199.251.224. I can now see that my trust in Jon was misplaced.
]-Franco Folini-
comments and to remove the personal attacks between Jon and some other
newsgroups readers. Before the interview, I made an agreement with Jon
about the style of the interview and the way to handle it. Jon didn't
respect our agreement, posting comments under fake names. Jon's
authentic and fake comments are all posted from the same IP address,
72.199.251.224. I can now see that my trust in Jon was misplaced.
]-Franco Folini-
> In Tom Brewer's world what's true yesterday has to be true today or
> tomorrow. The CADCAM world simply doesn't work like this. At one
> point, HSMWorks has a lot of promise.
> tomorrow. The CADCAM world simply doesn't work like this. At one
> point, HSMWorks has a lot of promise.
jon_banquer
Oct 18, 2012, 10:49:32 AM10/18/12
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jon_banquer
Oct 19, 2012, 10:55:21 AM10/19/12
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jon_banquer
Oct 19, 2012, 4:08:20 PM10/19/12
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On Oct 19, 7:55 am, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> SolidWorks has now stripped HSMWorks of the ability to sell OEM
> versions of SolidWorks.
CIMCO Integration in the US may also be in big trouble. I'll know more
> SolidWorks has now stripped HSMWorks of the ability to sell OEM
> versions of SolidWorks.
shortly.
brewertr
Oct 19, 2012, 4:22:54 PM10/19/12
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jon_banquer
Oct 19, 2012, 4:42:36 PM10/19/12
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You're about as dumb as they come, Brewer.
jon_banquer
Oct 19, 2012, 4:42:50 PM10/19/12
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On Oct 19, 1:08 pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
jon_banquer
Oct 19, 2012, 8:27:30 PM10/19/12
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http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/19/jeff-bezos-the-smart-people-change-their-minds/
"The people who are right a lot often change their minds. Bezos said
he doesn’t think consistency of thought as a particularly positive
trait. It’s better, even healthier in fact, to have an idea that
contradicts one you had before.
The smart people constantly revise their understandings of a matter.
They reconsider problems they thought they had solved. They are open
to new points of view, new information, and challenges to their own
ways of thinking.
Is he saying you should not have a well-formed point of view? Of
course not – instead think of your thoughts as temporary ones,
flexible to change. You may be only partly right one moment and partly
wrong another. But in all, you are there to think. And thinkers go
through constant introspection, open to other views.
The ones who are wrong — well, they too often get lost in the details
that just support one point of view, Bezos said."
"The people who are right a lot often change their minds. Bezos said
he doesn’t think consistency of thought as a particularly positive
trait. It’s better, even healthier in fact, to have an idea that
contradicts one you had before.
The smart people constantly revise their understandings of a matter.
They reconsider problems they thought they had solved. They are open
to new points of view, new information, and challenges to their own
ways of thinking.
Is he saying you should not have a well-formed point of view? Of
course not – instead think of your thoughts as temporary ones,
flexible to change. You may be only partly right one moment and partly
wrong another. But in all, you are there to think. And thinkers go
through constant introspection, open to other views.
The ones who are wrong — well, they too often get lost in the details
that just support one point of view, Bezos said."
jon_banquer
Oct 21, 2012, 7:13:03 PM10/21/12
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jon_banquer
Oct 21, 2012, 7:15:10 PM10/21/12
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