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tsiemon

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Jun 9, 2008, 1:01:03 PM6/9/08
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Solid Edge with Synchronous Technology software is a groundbreaking
release delivering a new modeling paradigm that combines the speed and
flexibility of explicit modeling with the control and predictability
of parameterized design. It does away with the history tree, you no
longer have to worry about design intent, and all models from all CAD
systems are treated equally.

They have a deal going on where you can replace one seat of Solid
Works with a seat of Solid Edge Classic with Synchronous Technology

Regular list price: $ 6,994 total
Promotional Price: $2,994
You Save $4,000 !!


Contact Adam.Ma...@engmeth.com for more info.

DaisyFlower

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Jun 9, 2008, 1:32:38 PM6/9/08
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buy it sight unseen,. Jon's butt boy Lumberyard said it best: "pig in a
poke"
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

fcsuper

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Jun 9, 2008, 3:54:50 PM6/9/08
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> Contact Adam.Markov...@engmeth.com for more info.

You should actually try reading the SW forums before posting stuff
like this. Most regulars have seen the video demo. I'm personally
not impressed with the smoke and mirrors.

neil

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Jun 9, 2008, 4:03:20 PM6/9/08
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well that could be tempting if you are getting fed up with SW
pity they didnt post that offer before I paid subs... :o)


pfar...@priorclave.co.uk

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Jun 9, 2008, 4:13:41 PM6/9/08
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> Contact Adam.Markov...@engmeth.com for more info.

If they really believed that SolidEdge is better than Solidworks, they
would give a free seat of SolidEdge, in exchange for your Solidworks.
$2,994 is a lot of cash to throw away, if the user finds out, that it
is worse than Solidworks.
They would get their money back from subscription, so why the charge?
Video's mean nothing, if made by the company, give the program to a
real Solidworks user, (like myself :-) and you would get a real
diagnosis on the validity of the claims.
Using a program in the real world, with real models, differ emmensely,
from promotional videos.

John R. Carroll

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Jun 9, 2008, 4:19:07 PM6/9/08
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I'd say just the opposite about pricing. A couple thousand dollars is worth
taking but it's no reason to migrate.
Migrating from SW to another product wouldn't be inexpensive when you
consider the effort such an undertaking would require.
Siemens would be well served by a migration tool for SW users and not a
bunch of marketing hoopla about functionality that products like Catia have
had for many years. Such migration tools are avaliable for DSS customers
moving from SW to Catia and well engineered and automated migration tools
will be the DSS answer to UG's latest push.

Anyone here seen V6 yet?

--

John R. Carroll
www.machiningsolution.com


brew...@aol.com

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Jun 9, 2008, 4:35:01 PM6/9/08
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On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:13:41 -0700 (PDT), pfar...@priorclave.co.uk
wrote:

>Video's mean nothing, if made by the company, give the program to a
>real Solidworks user, (like myself :-)

If it works as shown in the videos then any third grader or Jon
Bandqueer should be able to use it.

tnik

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Jun 9, 2008, 6:27:52 PM6/9/08
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careful, you don't want the third grade population to get upset.

jon_banquer

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Jun 9, 2008, 10:16:37 PM6/9/08
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So stop blowing smoke and using mirrors.

http://www.mavenmicro.com

June 25 Solid Edge Synchronous Technology Launch

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/

phil scott

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Jun 10, 2008, 4:12:02 AM6/10/08
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On Jun 9, 12:54 pm, fcsuper <fcsu...@gmail.com> wrote:

inventor had similarly impressive smoke and mirrors on their routed
systems... the rest of their program is not at all greased up like
that

Id have to get a trial run on SE before I paid that kind of money


Phil scott

phil scott

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Jun 10, 2008, 4:16:40 AM6/10/08
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ezzzactly.... this will be very interesting. when inventor 08
came out it was selling at a premium, within a few months they were
giving away the 'short version' that was mostly like the full blown
version... why?

i found it difficult to learn,

Cliff

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Jun 10, 2008, 6:00:40 AM6/10/08
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And what of 3rd party CAM programs & their data that
were used with SolidWorks?
Or any other third party software?

>Anyone here seen V6 yet?

Note that UG needs to be considered too, not just SE.
http://www.theorem.co.uk/pages/pde.htm
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Cliff

Cliff

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Jun 10, 2008, 6:38:24 AM6/10/08
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On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:12:02 -0700 (PDT), phil scott <ph...@philscott.net> wrote:

>inventor had similarly impressive smoke and mirrors on their routed

"routed"?

jon_banquer

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Jun 10, 2008, 7:22:05 AM6/10/08
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Here's a review of Solid Edge with Synchronous Technology by one of
the most respected names in the business

http://tinyurl.com/3g37h6

Cliff

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Jun 10, 2008, 2:54:25 PM6/10/08
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On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:22:05 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer <jon_b...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Here's a review of Solid Edge with Synchronous Technology by one of
>the most respected names in the business

In the business of marketing & ads?
Looks like he had been director of marketing for Dassault Systems
and is now sort of freelance (in specialty marketing).
But is he a USER of SE?
--
Cliff

phil scott

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Jun 10, 2008, 5:30:46 PM6/10/08
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On Jun 9, 1:35 pm, brewe...@aol.com wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:13:41 -0700 (PDT), pfarn...@priorclave.co.uk

> wrote:
>
> >Video's mean nothing, if made by the company, give the program to a
> >real Solidworks user, (like myself :-)
>
> If it works as shown in the videos then any third grader or Jon
> Bandqueer should be able to use it.

ahh...that would be my speed then.

phil scott

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Jun 10, 2008, 5:36:30 PM6/10/08
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On Jun 10, 3:38 am, Cliff <Clhupr...@aol.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:12:02 -0700 (PDT), phil scott <p...@philscott.net> wrote:
> >inventor had similarly impressive smoke and mirrors on their routed
>
>   "routed"?


they have a slick demo on autodesk site... basically you pick either
end of a pipe line, then draw a straight line between, then drag the
line around corners etc so it looks good... run your other pipes the
same way, enter non interference flow direction and slope criteria,
pipe type valves from a menu..and autocad draws it for you. .. and
alarms any interferences they dont tell you what a pain in the
ass it is to set all that up and do the usual 3d drawings and
assemblies.... editing can be nasty.


Cliff

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Jun 11, 2008, 5:50:28 AM6/11/08
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Got it, thanks.
Some of the CAD systems have maximim limits on the "size"
of what's modeled; probably not a concern in your case.

Don't know if either SW or SE are much good at routing pipes,
wires, etc.
Anybody (except jb)?
--
Cliff

madcadman

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Jun 12, 2008, 12:59:39 AM6/12/08
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HEY JON "PENIS-BREATH" BANQUER: THE ONLY ONE "BLOWING" ANYTHING HERE IS
YOU!!! YOU LOSER.

"jon_banquer" <jon_b...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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madcadman

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Jun 12, 2008, 1:05:23 AM6/12/08
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That loser banquer can't even find the on button, that's why he goes to the
public library to post to usenet or compose his "blog"--because the
computers are already on over there.

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jon_banquer

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Jun 12, 2008, 8:38:19 AM6/12/08
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A virtual library of helpful links and information

http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/

Cliff

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Jun 12, 2008, 9:30:01 AM6/12/08
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On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:38:19 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer <jon_b...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>A virtual library of helpful links and information

Demand a 16 hour video of those charts so that every time you need to
countersink a hole you can watch the video again to get the correct
number from the chart.
--
Cliff

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