Looking for ancient version of RTX-Tiny (for 8051)
Mark Moulding
I'm using a really, really old version of C51; specifically, version 4.10,
old enough that it's branded with the Franklin name. I'm maintaining a
couple of existing products, and although I have the compiler, linker, etc.,
I don't have the RTX-Tiny libraries.
I've purchased the latest Kiel product, including the RTX-Tiny subsystem,
but the RTOS interface (and in fact it appears the entire library structure)
has changed, and cannot be used with the older version of the compiler that
is still in use on these older products.
The Franklin and Kiel companies parted ways quite some time ago, apparently
in a large cloud of dust. Although there is still a Franklin software site
(fsinc.com), all the email links on it bounce, and the phone number listed
has been disconnected.
I certainly would like to acquire these older RTX-Tiny libraries. Does
anyone have an idea where I might track them down? I don't want to encourage
software piracy in any form, so I'd be willing to pay a sensible license fee
(remember, this stuff is >>10 years old...) to upgrade my existing compiler
tool chain, if it seems appropriate.
Thanks for any help you can give!
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Mark Moulding
Neil
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"Neil" <Neil...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>> I'm using a really, really old version of C51; specifically, version
>> 4.10, old enough that it's branded with the Franklin name. I'm
>> maintaining a couple of existing products, and although I have the
>> compiler, linker, etc., I don't have the RTX-Tiny libraries.
> Did you contact Keil about this? They may have them.
Yup - the word I got is that they never received any of the Franklin-branded
code back into their repositories. Whether or not that's true I have no
idea, but it's quite clear that Keil actively avoids any association with
the Franklin products.
For that matter, they wouldn't even let me "upgrade" my current 8.x software
to 7.x, although the files are clearly shown on the web site. Why would I
want to do that, you ask? Because I want to run the tool chain under Linux,
which I can do in a DOS emulator, except that the 8.x products use a unique
computer keying (probably the disk serial number) scheme that doesn't seem
to work under Linux. Apparently the 7.x product doesn't have this security
"feature".
So I'm back hunting for ancient 4.x RTX-Tiny libraries again. Can anyone
help?
Thanks!
--
Mark Moulding
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came to it. A white man brought me here. I am very happy now."
While being brought to the Mission by this gentleman, she laid
hold of his coat, and would not let go until she was safely
inside. It is significant that in this case and the following,
methods of punishment allowed even unto death by Chinese law, are
administered by the mistresses of slaves in America.
No. 2. "One day I was playing in the street near my home in
Canton, and a man kidnaped me. He said: 'Come with me; your mother
told me to take you to buy something for her, and you are to take
it back.' I have never seen my father and mother since. In 3 or 4
days I was taken to the Hong Kong steamer. I dared not cry on the
street, but on board the steamer I cried very much. The kidnaper
said: 'Don't you cry, or you will have the policeman after you,
and they'll take you off to the foreign devils' prison.' At Hong
Kong he sold me to a woman, and after staying at her house a few
days she brought me to California. I had a yellow paper given me,
but I don't know what it was. The woman told me I must say I was
born in California. I came here last winter. I am 11 years old.
I don't remember the name of the steamer. The woman sold me to
another woman. I had to work as cook, and nurse her little
bound-footed child, who was strapped to my back to carry. The
child I carried was 9 years old; and I was 11. My mistress was
very cruel. Often she took off all my clothes, laid me on a bench
and beat me with a rattan until I was black all over. Then she
said: 'I will get rid of you and sell you.' The keeper of a
brothel came to buy me, and look me over to see how much I was
worth. A Chinaman living next door, knowing how I was treated and
that I was going to be put in a brothel, when I saw him in the
passageway, asked me if I wished to come to t
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to be sufficient arguments across the water, they have no force in
California. There are women, alas! willing to make a trade of their
virtue for _their own gain_, without forcing Chinese women to make a
trade of their virtue for _the gain of masters_. As to Chinese custom:
America is not setting forth inducements for the Chinese to come and
live in our midst, as did Sir Charles Elliott when he promised the
Chinese the privilege of practicing their own social and religious
rites and customs, "pending Her Majesty's pleasure." If Chinese or any
other class of foreigners come to reside in the United States, it
is with the understanding that they must conform to the laws of the
country, whatever modification or radical alteration it obliges them
to make in their native customs, and if they will not do this they
must take the consequences.
No class of people, taken as a whole, are possessed of a greater
moral sense or can be reached more readily by moral suasion, than
the Chinese. We believe that if a proper condition of public moral
sentiment were maintained, by the enforcement of the laws of the
United States in Chinese communities, no class of people would be more
delighted than the respectable Chinese themselves, who are now left in
a state of terror for their own lives from the highbinders, and who
often dare not bring over their lawful wives from China, to live in
the midst of this reign of terr
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and after some time had been sent away to California. She had been
present when bargains were struck for the women, the price being
various; bought here, the women cost from fifty to one hundred
and fifty dollars, and when sold in California they were to be
disposed of from two hundred and fifty to three hundred and fifty
each.[A] She said the woman had "made a great deal of money. She
has told me so." She also said some were unwilling to go, but were
afraid to resist. She said between ten and twenty women had passed
through the woman's hands, to her knowledge. The brothel-keeper's
reply was, that the last witness owed her money, and had taken
some ornaments which belonged to her--together with a denial that
she had bought anybody or sent anyone to California. What was the
outcome of this dreadful arraignment of crimes against Chinese
girls? The woman was "ordered to find security (two sureties of
$250 each) for her appearance in any court, for any purpose and at
any time within twelve months." No reco
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therefore, without fear, favour or affection, discharge this duty
to the best of my ability."
CHAPTER 10.
NOT FALLEN--BUT ENSLAVED.
The Report of the Commission affords the following instructive
account of the difference in the moral and social status between the
prostitute of the East and West:
"In approaching the subject of prostitution, as it is found in
Hong Kong at the present day, it is absolutely necessary for a
full and just comprehension of it, to keep in mind two distinct
considerations. One is the almost total identity of the whole
system of prostitution, which since times immemorial is an
established institution all over the large empire of China. The
other point to be kept in mind is the radical difference
which distinguishes the personal character, the life and the
surroundings of Chinese prostitutes from all that is
characteristic of the prostitutes of Europe." ... "At the present
day the Chinese prostitutes of H
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moral by act of parliament, and it is foolish to try; to put a man in
jail will not change him from a thief into an honest man." "But," you
reply, "we do not punish men for stealing and for murder for their own
good, but for the good of the community at large." Certainly. Then
what becomes of the argument that because men will not become pure by
act of parliament they are to be allowed to commit their depredations
unmolested? The primary object of law is not reformatory but
protective,--for the victims of lawlessness.
Our great Law-Giver, Jesus Christ, admitted a certain necessity of
evil, but He did not say, "therefore license it, to keep it within
bounds." He said, "It _must needs be_ that offenses come." But His
remedy for keeping the offenses within bounds was, "woe to that man by
whom the offense cometh." As inevitably as the offense was committed
so invariably must the punishment fall on the offender's head. That
is the only way to keep any evil within bounds. This is the principle
that underlies all law.
These Hong Kong officials who believed in the licensing of brothel
slavery and brought it about, have much to say about the "unfortunate
creatures" who were the victims of men. But if the advocate of license
is self-deceived in his attitude toward this social evil, we need not
be deceived in him. One does not propose a license as a remedy for an
evil, except as led to that view by secret sympathy with the evil.
A license of an evil is never proposed excepting upon the mental
acquiescence in that evil.
British officials who licensed immoral houses at Hong Kong did not
wish the libertine to be disturbed in his dep
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land, and were brought to the Mission by the Commissioners of
Immigration.
These Chinese were arrested, the case tried in Federal Court,
these girls being the principal witnesses; yet twelve supposedly
good men dismissed the criminals, and the case was lost.
Surrounded by the genial environment of our Mission, the minds of
these four girls unfolded in a remarkable manner; fascinated with
their studies, they constantly begged us to intercede with the
authorities that they might remain in the Mission and obtain an
education; but, although every effort was made, they were deported
after a seven months' stay.
They had learned to love our Home life, had united with our
Christian Endeavor Society and had become interested in all our
work, and we would be quite unreconciled to their departure did we
not know that our missionaries in Shanghai stand ready to receive
and care for them when they arrive.
No. 6. Seen Fah. The first beams of the rising sun shone bright
and hopefully into a pleasant room in the Presbyterian Mission
Home one morning last autumn. It threw its cheerful radiance over
a group of three gathered there to plan an important undertaking,
lighting the bright, eager faces of two young Chinese girls, and
giving renewed courage to the anxious heart of the Superintendent.
What important event had to be discussed? What serious matter
decided? News had reached the Mission Home, a few hours before,
of a young Chinese girl just landed in San Francisco and sold for
three thousand dollars. Plans to save this helpless and innocent
child, before it was too late, were the subject of discussion at
that early morning meeting. In such a serious undertaking every
possibili
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habits, and thus that until special attention has been excited it
has escaped public notice. But recently the abomination has forced
itself on my notice. In some cases convictions have been had; in
two notable instances, although I called for prosecution, the
criminals escaped. They were Chinese in respectable positions,
and I was given to understand that buying children by respectable
Chinamen as servants was according to Chinese customs, and that to
attempt to put it down would be to arouse the prejudices of the
Chinese. The practice is on the increase. It is in this port,
and in this Colony especially, that the so-called Chinese custom
prevails. Under the English flag, slavery, it has been said, does
not, cannot ever be. Under that flag it does exist in this Colony,
and is, I believe, at this moment more openly practiced than at
any former period of its history. Cyprus has been under our rule
for about a year, and already, both in the House of Commons and in
the House of Lords, questions have been asked, and the Members
of the present Ministry have assure
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mother under circumstances from which he must have known that the
child had been kidnaped. But although the facts were known at the
Police Court, and this man remained exceeding ten days afterward
in the Colony, no charge was ever made against him. After passing
sentences at this time, I made some observations on the '_patria
potestas_' [power of the father] theory. Dr. Eitel having painted
this condition in China in what I thought too favorable colors,
I quoted from Doolittle's 'Social Life in China,' unquestioned
testimony as to what _patria potestas_ was in China before the
controversy now raised, and from Mr. Parker, Her Britannic
Majesty's Consul at Canton, as to its present state in China.
After these quotations, I simply asked, Can greater tyranny, more
unchecked caprice, be described or even conceived as inexcusable
over wife, concubine, child, or purchased or inherited
slave?'--the quotations I made being up to this time undisputed
... what I said was necessary to introduce the expression of my
conviction ... that none of the elements of the system of _patria
potestas_ exist in Hong Kong, including of course adoption. It is
to this conviction that I point as the moral ground for enforcing
English law against kidnaping and buying and selling human beings.
The gravamen of all my complaints is, that the pauper kidnapers
and sellers are punished, while the rich buyers go free. No case
can come on for trial in this Court except upon an
Chris H
Moulding <ma...@markesystems.no.damn.spam.com> writes
>
>"Neil" <Neil...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>news:4782e760$0$9084$607e...@cv.net...
>
>>> I'm using a really, really old version of C51; specifically, version
>>> 4.10, old enough that it's branded with the Franklin name. I'm
>>> maintaining a couple of existing products, and although I have the
>>> compiler, linker, etc., I don't have the RTX-Tiny libraries.
>
>> Did you contact Keil about this? They may have them.
>
>Yup - the word I got is that they never received any of the Franklin-branded
>code back into their repositories. Whether or not that's true I have no
>idea, but it's quite clear that Keil actively avoids any association with
>the Franklin products.
There is much unhappy history there I believe. Franklin rebadged Keil
for the US market..
>For that matter, they wouldn't even let me "upgrade" my current 8.x software
>to 7.x, although the files are clearly shown on the web site. Why would I
>want to do that, you ask?
Probably because of the Franklin association
>Because I want to run the tool chain under Linux,
>which I can do in a DOS emulator, except that the 8.x products use a unique
>computer keying (probably the disk serial number) scheme that doesn't seem
>to work under Linux. Apparently the 7.x product doesn't have this security
>"feature".
If you go to a windows box and use a legitimate V8 I am sure Keil would
help. I have certainly supplied older versions for people
>So I'm back hunting for ancient 4.x RTX-Tiny libraries again. Can anyone
>help?
Find an old demo CD of the Keil C51. RTX Tiny was "free" on the PK-51
and AFAIK the old demo CD's had it on.
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>>which I can do in a DOS emulator, except that the 8.x products use a
>>unique
>>computer keying (probably the disk serial number) scheme that doesn't seem
>>to work under Linux. Apparently the 7.x product doesn't have this
>>security
>>"feature".
>
> If you go to a windows box and use a legitimate V8 I am sure Keil would
> help. I have certainly supplied older versions for people
Well, actually I spent quite some time on the phone with their support
staff, on two separate occasions, with different support associates, and
pretty much ran into a stone wall both times. The biggest concession I was
offered was an additional license key so that I could run the product on
three, rather than the default two, unique computers - Windows only:
"We don't support Linux installations of any kind."
"We're not authorizing any new 7.x serial numbers."
"Your license is only qualified for version 8.x product."
Bleh!
>
>>So I'm back hunting for ancient 4.x RTX-Tiny libraries again. Can anyone
>>help?
>
> Find an old demo CD of the Keil C51. RTX Tiny was "free" on the PK-51 and
> AFAIK the old demo CD's had it on.
That's an idea. I believe I have an old Franklin-branded demo of their
early Windows-based IDE. Now if I can just find where I put those
floppies...
Thanks for the memory nudge!
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Mark Moulding
Chris H
Moulding <ma...@markesystems.no.damn.spam.com> writes
>>>Because I want to run the tool chain under Linux,
>>>which I can do in a DOS emulator, except that the 8.x products use a
>>>unique
>>>computer keying (probably the disk serial number) scheme that doesn't seem
>>>to work under Linux. Apparently the 7.x product doesn't have this
>>>security
>>>"feature".
>>
>> If you go to a windows box and use a legitimate V8 I am sure Keil would
>> help. I have certainly supplied older versions for people
>
>Well, actually I spent quite some time on the phone with their support
>staff, on two separate occasions, with different support associates, and
>pretty much ran into a stone wall both times.
IT would be if you wanted Linux support.
> The biggest concession I was
>offered was an additional license key so that I could run the product on
>three, rather than the default two, unique computers - Windows only:
At least they are trying to be helpful
>"We don't support Linux installations of any kind."
>"We're not authorizing any new 7.x serial numbers."
>"Your license is only qualified for version 8.x product."
>
>Bleh!
Don't blame them for not supporting Linux... they don't support VMS
either. IF you choose an OS the SW vendor does not support it is hardly
their fault
>
>>
>>>So I'm back hunting for ancient 4.x RTX-Tiny libraries again. Can anyone
>>>help?
>>
>> Find an old demo CD of the Keil C51. RTX Tiny was "free" on the PK-51 and
>> AFAIK the old demo CD's had it on.
>
>That's an idea. I believe I have an old Franklin-branded demo of their
>early Windows-based IDE. Now if I can just find where I put those
>floppies...
I have some old version of the Keil demo Cd. Email me direct.