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Some very old, expensive, and interesting computer items on ebay.

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Don McKenzie

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Aug 9, 2012, 3:51:27 PM8/9/12
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Apple 1 original $75K

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=160810171525&nma=true&rt=nc&si=dvqofCNLX4lPgItmd0XSxR9XUaQ%253D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

C4040 ES INTEL CPU RARE $800K

http://www.ebay.com/itm/C4040-ES-INTEL-CPU-RARE-/190404561375?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item2c54ff09df

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spamtrap1888

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Aug 9, 2012, 4:24:06 PM8/9/12
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On Aug 9, 12:51 pm, Don McKenzie <5...@2.5A> wrote:
> Apple 1 original $75K
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557...
>
> C4040 ES INTEL CPU RARE $800K
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/C4040-ES-INTEL-CPU-RARE-/190404561375?pt=US_V...
>

Funny that all the other C4040 engineering samples are in white
packages, not brown, and do not have a 1975 date code. How would an
Intel sample get to China to begin with?

Don McKenzie

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Aug 9, 2012, 5:09:09 PM8/9/12
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doesn't look much like this one does it?
http://www.rarecpus.com/images/intelC4040.jpg

here is another nice little collection of pictures:
http://www.willsmith.org/collectible_chips/

Don McKenzie

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Aug 9, 2012, 5:15:34 PM8/9/12
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On 10-Aug-12 7:09 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
> On 10-Aug-12 6:24 AM, spamtrap1888 wrote:
>> On Aug 9, 12:51 pm, Don McKenzie <5...@2.5A> wrote:
>>> Apple 1 original $75K
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557...
>>>
>>> C4040 ES INTEL CPU RARE $800K
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/C4040-ES-INTEL-CPU-RARE-/190404561375?pt=US_V...
>>>
>>
>> Funny that all the other C4040 engineering samples are in white
>> packages, not brown, and do not have a 1975 date code. How would an
>> Intel sample get to China to begin with?
>
> doesn't look much like this one does it?
> http://www.rarecpus.com/images/intelC4040.jpg
>
> here is another nice little collection of pictures:
> http://www.willsmith.org/collectible_chips/

just found a whole bunch of them which may throw a different light on the subject.
http://www.chipdb.org/cat-4040-350.htm

Don McKenzie

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Aug 9, 2012, 5:54:41 PM8/9/12
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On 10-Aug-12 7:42 AM, Greegor wrote:
>> C4040 ES INTEL CPU RARE
>
> Wouldn't the 4004 be even more valuable?

I should hope so, but at $800K for a 4040, I figure it is about $799.9K over priced.

hamilton

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Aug 9, 2012, 7:17:56 PM8/9/12
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On 8/9/2012 3:54 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:
> On 10-Aug-12 7:42 AM, Greegor wrote:
>>> C4040 ES INTEL CPU RARE
>>
>> Wouldn't the 4004 be even more valuable?
>
> I should hope so, but at $800K for a 4040, I figure it is about $799.9K
> over priced.
>
So, you'd pay $100 to get one ??


Trevor Wilson

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Aug 9, 2012, 7:29:26 PM8/9/12
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**This is very interesting. I have a 256k printer buffer I purchased
from you a few years back, that may be worth a fortune one day.

Yay!

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Roberto Waltman

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Aug 9, 2012, 7:35:02 PM8/9/12
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Trevor Wilson wrote:
>**This is very interesting. I have a 256k printer buffer I purchased
>from you a few years back, that may be worth a fortune one day.

I am having a hard time convincing my wife that we need to be patient
and wait, until my garage-full-of-junk becomes Alibaba's treasure
cave.
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Yaputya

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Aug 9, 2012, 7:42:54 PM8/9/12
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"hamilton" <hami...@nothere.com> wrote in message news:k01gf8$c89$1...@dont-email.me...
If it came with a certificate of authenticity.......how easy would it be to clone
a 4040 these days?



Trevor Wilson

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Aug 9, 2012, 8:34:26 PM8/9/12
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On 8/10/2012 9:35 AM, Roberto Waltman wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> **This is very interesting. I have a 256k printer buffer I purchased
>>from you a few years back, that may be worth a fortune one day.
>
> I am having a hard time convincing my wife that we need to be patient
> and wait, until my garage-full-of-junk becomes Alibaba's treasure
> cave.
> --
> Roberto Waltman
>

**Those words probably apply to 90% of the people who read these groups.
My collection of 1,200 baud modems, 386 laptops, 256k RAm chips, 28 year
old CD players, Sony Beta machines, 20MB hard drives and valves are
surely going to be worth something. Actually, some of my crap is
(finally) starting to become valuable (I have a nice assortment of quite
valuable vaccuum tubes). SWMBO calls it "junk". She knows nothing.


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Phil Hobbs

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Aug 9, 2012, 8:55:15 PM8/9/12
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That's all part of the balance of nature. In order for my baseball card
collection to become valuable, everybody else's mom had to throw theirs
away while they were at summer camp.

(Do they have cricket cards in OZ?)

Cheers

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Trevor Wilson

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Aug 9, 2012, 9:07:13 PM8/9/12
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On 8/10/2012 10:55 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>
>> On 8/10/2012 9:35 AM, Roberto Waltman wrote:
>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> **This is very interesting. I have a 256k printer buffer I purchased
>>> >from you a few years back, that may be worth a fortune one day.
>>>
>>> I am having a hard time convincing my wife that we need to be patient
>>> and wait, until my garage-full-of-junk becomes Alibaba's treasure
>>> cave.
>>> --
>>> Roberto Waltman
>>>
>>
>> **Those words probably apply to 90% of the people who read these groups.
>> My collection of 1,200 baud modems, 386 laptops, 256k RAm chips, 28 year
>> old CD players, Sony Beta machines, 20MB hard drives and valves are
>> surely going to be worth something. Actually, some of my crap is
>> (finally) starting to become valuable (I have a nice assortment of quite
>> valuable vaccuum tubes). SWMBO calls it "junk". She knows nothing.
>>
>
> That's all part of the balance of nature. In order for my baseball card
> collection to become valuable, everybody else's mom had to throw theirs
> away while they were at summer camp.
>
> (Do they have cricket cards in OZ?)
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil Hobbs
>

**Probably. Never been a follower of sports. Played some, but never
watched any. I do recall collecting cards from the local gas station,
when I was a kid. Atlantic Petrol. As always, there was one, quite rare
card. My mum probably chucked them out, along with my Superman and
Batman comics. Arrggghhh!

Lucky I've still got my Beta machines.

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miso

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Aug 9, 2012, 11:12:42 PM8/9/12
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Your "Chinese" is a common sidebraze used "in-house." Maybe the other
packages were for engineering samples that went to outside vendors.

The free shipping makes this deal so tempting. Wait, that price isn't in
rupees?


Walter Banks

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Aug 10, 2012, 9:35:08 AM8/10/12
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Don McKenzie wrote:

> On 10-Aug-12 7:42 AM, Greegor wrote:
> >> C4040 ES INTEL CPU RARE
> >
> > Wouldn't the 4004 be even more valuable?
>
> I should hope so, but at $800K for a 4040, I figure it is about $799.9K over priced.

I agree. Does make me wonder what the two 4004's
I gave away a couple years ago are worth

w..

Spehro Pefhany

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Aug 10, 2012, 10:09:03 AM8/10/12
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According to this article, they were worth $212-$550 each in 2005, on
eBay.

http://www.chipsetc.com/computer-memorabilia-collectors.html

Less than 25 cents/transistor, vs less than 1.5E-5 cents/transistor on
a Gulftown i7 (about 2 million times more expensive).

Jon Elson

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Aug 10, 2012, 6:28:25 PM8/10/12
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Geez! Shouldn't have thrown out all that old crap years ago!
I had an 8008 CPU, and probably some other vintage stuff. Hmmm,
wait, I think I still HAVE an 8008 and matching EPROMS, etc.
in an old prototype I made.

Jon

David Eather

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Aug 10, 2012, 11:33:01 PM8/10/12
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I have 100 TRILLION Dollars so it's no problem for me - they want Zimbabwe
dollars right?

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David Eather

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Aug 10, 2012, 11:34:42 PM8/10/12
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A working Atari 2600 sold to the Smithsonian for 10K - not a fortune but...

UltimatePatriot

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Aug 10, 2012, 11:36:33 PM8/10/12
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 13:33:01 +1000, "David Eather" <eat...@tpg.com.au>
wrote:
I have two Alpha SBCs, but US dollars are required.

David Eather

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Aug 10, 2012, 11:43:12 PM8/10/12
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:55:15 +1000, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>
>> On 8/10/2012 9:35 AM, Roberto Waltman wrote:
>> > Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> >> **This is very interesting. I have a 256k printer buffer I purchased
>> >>from you a few years back, that may be worth a fortune one day.
>> >
>> > I am having a hard time convincing my wife that we need to be patient
>> > and wait, until my garage-full-of-junk becomes Alibaba's treasure
>> > cave.
>> > --
>> > Roberto Waltman
>> >
>>
>> **Those words probably apply to 90% of the people who read these groups.
>> My collection of 1,200 baud modems, 386 laptops, 256k RAm chips, 28 year
>> old CD players, Sony Beta machines, 20MB hard drives and valves are
>> surely going to be worth something. Actually, some of my crap is
>> (finally) starting to become valuable (I have a nice assortment of quite
>> valuable vaccuum tubes). SWMBO calls it "junk". She knows nothing.
>>
>
> That's all part of the balance of nature. In order for my baseball card
> collection to become valuable, everybody else's mom had to throw theirs
> away while they were at summer camp.
>
> (Do they have cricket cards in OZ?)

Until very recently (only the last 10 years or so) it wasn't done. Some
people had signature books, the occasional signed bat or actual signed
photos but that was all. Now it is being marketed as a big thing - like
POKEMON (i.e. mostly worthless).

BTW, somewhat recently a bat signed by Don Bradman and the entire 1948
"Invincibles" (Australia's greatest and most famous player and team) went
up for auction - until then it was held in such high regard that it laid
forgotten in a shed and the owner's kids used it for backyard cricket!

>
> Cheers
>
> Phil Hobbs

Stonethrower

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Aug 11, 2012, 11:31:37 AM8/11/12
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> If it came with a certificate of authenticity
I never saw such a paper. Paper, right?
How I can be sure that certificate itself is not cloned?

StoneThrower
www.dgmicrosys.com

spamtrap1888

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Aug 11, 2012, 1:31:09 PM8/11/12
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On Aug 10, 8:43 pm, "David Eather" <eat...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

> BTW, somewhat recently a bat signed by Don Bradman and the entire 1948
> "Invincibles" (Australia's greatest and most famous player and team) went
> up for auction - until then it was held in such high regard that it laid
> forgotten in a shed and the owner's kids used it for backyard cricket!
>


Kids don't appreciate the value of collectables -- when my brother was
a teenager he once used part of my dad's coin collection to pay for a
pizza he ordered -- at face value of course.

Trevor Wilson

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Aug 11, 2012, 8:25:29 PM8/11/12
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**Oops. Kinda like my grandmother. She took a considerable number
(around 30 - 40, as I recall) of mint condition Australian Sovereigns
down to the bank, where they dutifully gave her face value (1 Pound = 2
Dollars each) for the coins. Back when she did it (my old man hit the
roof) the collector value would have exceeded $100.00 each. YIKES!

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Paul

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Aug 12, 2012, 8:34:53 AM8/12/12
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In article <k05ttb$lb6$1...@ls237.t-com.hr>, digi_64-public[removeme]
@yahoo.com says...
Certificate of Authenticity was very much a 90's thing, until M$oft and
Intel then started doing it I doubt anyone actually had even thought of
them, except for pop memorabilia.

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Aug 12, 2012, 10:07:12 PM8/12/12
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I'd rather have one of these:

http://www.hpmuseum.org/hp9100.htm

I stumbled across this when pricing a couple of my old HP calculators. I
appear to be up over $100 on the original price of my HP 16C.

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Don Kuenz

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Aug 22, 2012, 11:50:31 AM8/22/12
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In sci.electronics.design Don McKenzie <5...@2.5a> wrote:
> On 10-Aug-12 7:42 AM, Greegor wrote:
>>> C4040 ES INTEL CPU RARE
>>
>> Wouldn't the 4004 be even more valuable?
>
> I should hope so, but at $800K for a 4040, I figure it is about $799.9K over priced.

Confucius say
Many valuable things for sale on ebay with teeny tiny turnover.

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Greegor

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Aug 23, 2012, 4:19:27 AM8/23/12
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That reminds me, a few years back I noticed
some items listed for greater than 10 times
the going rate and they were NOT quantity 10 lots.

I concluded they were part of some kind of
credit card fraud or money laundering scheme.

Why else would somebody buy an item for
2000 each when multiple vendors were
quite active selling the exactly identical
item for 200 each?

Is it possible that the same kind of racket has
jumped on "antique" computer items to
more easily conceal the apparent money laundering?

eBay just last week formally banned listings for
"intangeable" items like prayers and hexes.

"Antique" items may be the next best thing
for money laundering rackets since "going rate"
might be impossible to determine and fair price
might depend massively on historical or
personal sentimental value.

Rene

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Sep 11, 2012, 2:40:00 PM9/11/12
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I used to be one of these 90% until 2010, in that year I had a big clean
up in my house, threw virtually everything away apart from a very
limited number of items I *really* like, and this made me feel sooo
good! Space itself really feels better than heaps of old crap that take
it up.

Rene

yaputya

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Sep 11, 2012, 5:31:16 PM9/11/12
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"Rene" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:k2o0i4$477$1...@dont-email.me...
If you have lived in the same place for decades it is easy to accumulate
and keep junk that may eventually be worth a buck or two. If you put a
cost on the storage space, most stuff is not worth it. But you rarely
know what is going to appreciate in value beforehand.
If you have moved house several times you have probably had to
make some hard decisions - I threw out one of the early prototype
Microbee's with 64k static RAM, because it was shit compared to
the PC-clones available at the time I was moving. I would have kept
it if I hadn't been under the pressure of moving to minimise junk.

It gets much worse if you have to move overseas..........







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