Modeling tools

[Chad Pry]

Does anyone have a model tool they particular like?

Chad

[Jim Weirich]

On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Chad Pry wrote:

>
> Does anyone have a model tool they particular like?

I like the white board. If I don't have one available, I have been
known to use 4x6 index cards. Scott Barron likes the 5x7 size, but
that's just too big for me. Mark Windholtz prefers the 3x5 size (he
feels you can put too much information on the 4x6s).

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[mike]

It makes me feel old, and even older by the implication that it makes YOU
old, but I agree 100% on the whiteboard.

I think that most of the time, I also require someone handy who may or may
not understand what I am talking about, but at least is attentive as sort
of a positive peer pressure. This especially helped me with a complicated
set of inter-related polymorph sti models the other day.

Thanks MacGregor, even though now I just accused YOU of possibly not
understanding the topic at hand.

Till I further ostracize myself and others,

Mike

On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:26:56 -0400, Jim Weirich <jim.w...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[Dean]

I'm not sure if the original question was about UML modeling tools, or
just models in an ActiveRecord sense, but the tool I like the most
lately is

http://yuml.me/

mostly because of the concise DSL they came up with for expressing
relationships.

So this would the next step after the whiteboard phase -- once we've
agreed on the models and relationships, then I would use yUML to
create a diagram and throw that image up on the wiki...

-Dean

On Sep 11, 11:45 pm, mike <m...@l4m3.com> wrote:
> It makes me feel old, and even older by the implication that it makes YOU
> old, but I agree 100% on the whiteboard.
>
> I think that most of the time, I also require someone handy who may or may
> not understand what I am talking about, but at least is attentive as sort
> of a positive peer pressure. This especially helped me with a complicated
> set of inter-related polymorph sti models the other day.
>
> Thanks MacGregor, even though now I just accused YOU of possibly not
> understanding the topic at hand.
>
> Till I further ostracize myself and others,
>
> Mike
>

> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:26:56 -0400, Jim Weirich <jim.weir...@gmail.com>

> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Chad Pry wrote:
>
> >> Does anyone have a model tool they particular like?
>
> > I like the white board.  If I don't have one available, I have been  
> > known to use 4x6 index cards.  Scott Barron likes the 5x7 size, but  
> > that's just too big for me.  Mark Windholtz prefers the 3x5 size (he  
> > feels you can put too much information on the 4x6s).
>
> > --
> > -- Jim Weirich

> > -- jim.weir...@gmail.com

[Craig Muth]

> http://yuml.me/

> mostly because of the concise DSL they came up with for

> expressing relationships.

Dude, that is brilliant!  I'll definitely use this.  I dig the wiki-like syntax for creating use case diagrams:

[User]-(Sign up)

[User]-(Create blog post)

IMO this area - apps that have their own wiki-like syntaxes to help users create content - is just beginning to show its potential.  I see Hashtags and @refs etc. in twitter as part of the same trend, as well as simpler features like trusting users to create comma-separated lists of tags in a single text field.

--Craig

[Chad Pry]

Thank you everyone for the ideas.

I agree, the yuml site seems quite nice.  The ability to build multiple tools based on this drawing platform is definitely a plus.

For now, I've setup Mingle and I am playing with the stories until I feel comfortable with another diagram/modeling option.  The blackboard will do nicely in the interim.

Chad

[Greg Malcolm]

Wow, yuml would have been really useful to me last week!

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