We had a good turnout on Saturday and looked at two places. One of the two
also has a smaller/cheaper little sister that we didn't see directly but
which I'm getting more information about.
Here's a summary of what we saw/discussed. Please chime in if I missed
anything.
1) Any of the spaces would meet our needs but in very different ways. The
smallest space would be affordable now with the number of committed members
we currently have. It would be basically a shared workshop. (Assuming
$30/month member dues)
The middle space is twice as large but we would need at least 15 committed
members. It's large enough for a shop and could (barely) serve to run
basic classes.
Both of these spaces are very basic but serviceable. There's only a single
shared bathroom for the entire facility and it is, to put it mildly, "a
guy's bathroom"
The largest space is very nice. It's modern, professional appearing, and
would be quite comfortable. It's also the kind of place where we could run
classes to raise additional revenue and expand membership. To make it
work, we would need 20 or more committed members AND a viable plan
to continuously run classes that generate additional revenue.
2) There seemed to be general consensus that as nice as the big space is,
we don't have either the membership or organizational discipline to pull it
off.
3) Moving/upgrading spaces won't be difficult as we grow so starting small
is good.
Bottom line conclusion: We want to move forward with either the small or
medium space. To do so, we're going to take a vote. The vote will happen
in the form of a meeting to occur in December.
Your vote will be a check for three months dues ($90). This will cover
first and last months rent and security deposit. We'll decide on which
space we rent based on the number of committed members we have. If we
don't raise enough for the small space, all checks will be returned.
All paying members will have equal access to the space and a vote in the
operating rules to be established.
My suggestion would be the December 20th Hacknight meeting at Zach's place
to take a vote.
> We had a good turnout on Saturday and looked at two places. One of the
> two also has a smaller/cheaper little sister that we didn't see directly
> but which I'm getting more information about.
> Here's a summary of what we saw/discussed. Please chime in if I missed
> anything.
> 1) Any of the spaces would meet our needs but in very different ways. The
> smallest space would be affordable now with the number of committed members
> we currently have. It would be basically a shared workshop. (Assuming
> $30/month member dues)
> The middle space is twice as large but we would need at least 15 committed
> members. It's large enough for a shop and could (barely) serve to run
> basic classes.
> Both of these spaces are very basic but serviceable. There's only a
> single shared bathroom for the entire facility and it is, to put it mildly,
> "a guy's bathroom"
> The largest space is very nice. It's modern, professional appearing, and
> would be quite comfortable. It's also the kind of place where we could run
> classes to raise additional revenue and expand membership. To make it
> work, we would need 20 or more committed members AND a viable plan
> to continuously run classes that generate additional revenue.
> 2) There seemed to be general consensus that as nice as the big space is,
> we don't have either the membership or organizational discipline to pull it
> off.
> 3) Moving/upgrading spaces won't be difficult as we grow so starting small
> is good.
> Bottom line conclusion: We want to move forward with either the small or
> medium space. To do so, we're going to take a vote. The vote will happen
> in the form of a meeting to occur in December.
> Your vote will be a check for three months dues ($90). This will cover
> first and last months rent and security deposit. We'll decide on which
> space we rent based on the number of committed members we have. If we
> don't raise enough for the small space, all checks will be returned.
> All paying members will have equal access to the space and a vote in the
> operating rules to be established.
> My suggestion would be the December 20th Hacknight meeting at Zach's place
> to take a vote.
Brad. Here is another option that the "treasurer" could use.
https://squareup.com/ just add a 2.75% convience fee to monthly dues
to cover the expense of credit card processing. It is also simple to
file a LLC. So that no one member is saddled with the liability of
rent/expenses etc etc etc.
On 11/13/12, Zach Zeman <gamerdon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sounds like a plan. I have some questions about the implementation and the
> voting system, but we can talk this week at my place.
> -Zach
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Brad Collette
> <shopinthewo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> We had a good turnout on Saturday and looked at two places. One of the
>> two also has a smaller/cheaper little sister that we didn't see directly
>> but which I'm getting more information about.
>> Here's a summary of what we saw/discussed. Please chime in if I missed
>> anything.
>> 1) Any of the spaces would meet our needs but in very different ways.
>> The
>> smallest space would be affordable now with the number of committed
>> members
>> we currently have. It would be basically a shared workshop. (Assuming
>> $30/month member dues)
>> The middle space is twice as large but we would need at least 15
>> committed
>> members. It's large enough for a shop and could (barely) serve to run
>> basic classes.
>> Both of these spaces are very basic but serviceable. There's only a
>> single shared bathroom for the entire facility and it is, to put it
>> mildly,
>> "a guy's bathroom"
>> The largest space is very nice. It's modern, professional appearing, and
>> would be quite comfortable. It's also the kind of place where we could
>> run
>> classes to raise additional revenue and expand membership. To make it
>> work, we would need 20 or more committed members AND a viable plan
>> to continuously run classes that generate additional revenue.
>> 2) There seemed to be general consensus that as nice as the big space is,
>> we don't have either the membership or organizational discipline to pull
>> it
>> off.
>> 3) Moving/upgrading spaces won't be difficult as we grow so starting
>> small
>> is good.
>> Bottom line conclusion: We want to move forward with either the small or
>> medium space. To do so, we're going to take a vote. The vote will
>> happen
>> in the form of a meeting to occur in December.
>> Your vote will be a check for three months dues ($90). This will cover
>> first and last months rent and security deposit. We'll decide on which
>> space we rent based on the number of committed members we have. If we
>> don't raise enough for the small space, all checks will be returned.
>> All paying members will have equal access to the space and a vote in the
>> operating rules to be established.
>> My suggestion would be the December 20th Hacknight meeting at Zach's
>> place
>> to take a vote.
> Brad. Here is another option that the "treasurer" could use.
> https://squareup.com/ just add a 2.75% convience fee to monthly dues
> to cover the expense of credit card processing. It is also simple to
> file a LLC. So that no one member is saddled with the liability of
> rent/expenses etc etc etc.
> On 11/13/12, Zach Zeman <gamerdon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sounds like a plan. I have some questions about the implementation and
>> the
>> voting system, but we can talk this week at my place.
>> -Zach
>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Brad Collette
>> <shopinthewo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> We had a good turnout on Saturday and looked at two places. One of the
>>> two also has a smaller/cheaper little sister that we didn't see directly
>>> but which I'm getting more information about.
>>> Here's a summary of what we saw/discussed. Please chime in if I missed
>>> anything.
>>> 1) Any of the spaces would meet our needs but in very different ways.
>>> The
>>> smallest space would be affordable now with the number of committed
>>> members
>>> we currently have. It would be basically a shared workshop. (Assuming
>>> $30/month member dues)
>>> The middle space is twice as large but we would need at least 15
>>> committed
>>> members. It's large enough for a shop and could (barely) serve to run
>>> basic classes.
>>> Both of these spaces are very basic but serviceable. There's only a
>>> single shared bathroom for the entire facility and it is, to put it
>>> mildly,
>>> "a guy's bathroom"
>>> The largest space is very nice. It's modern, professional appearing,
>>> and
>>> would be quite comfortable. It's also the kind of place where we could
>>> run
>>> classes to raise additional revenue and expand membership. To make it
>>> work, we would need 20 or more committed members AND a viable plan
>>> to continuously run classes that generate additional revenue.
>>> 2) There seemed to be general consensus that as nice as the big space
>>> is,
>>> we don't have either the membership or organizational discipline to pull
>>> it
>>> off.
>>> 3) Moving/upgrading spaces won't be difficult as we grow so starting
>>> small
>>> is good.
>>> Bottom line conclusion: We want to move forward with either the small
>>> or
>>> medium space. To do so, we're going to take a vote. The vote will
>>> happen
>>> in the form of a meeting to occur in December.
>>> Your vote will be a check for three months dues ($90). This will cover
>>> first and last months rent and security deposit. We'll decide on which
>>> space we rent based on the number of committed members we have. If we
>>> don't raise enough for the small space, all checks will be returned.
>>> All paying members will have equal access to the space and a vote in the
>>> operating rules to be established.
>>> My suggestion would be the December 20th Hacknight meeting at Zach's
>>> place
>>> to take a vote.
> On 11/13/12, Carl Campbell <dicthor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Brad. Here is another option that the "treasurer" could use.
> > https://squareup.com/ just add a 2.75% convience fee to monthly dues
> > to cover the expense of credit card processing. It is also simple to
> > file a LLC. So that no one member is saddled with the liability of
> > rent/expenses etc etc etc.
> > On 11/13/12, Zach Zeman <gamerdon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Sounds like a plan. I have some questions about the implementation and
> >> the
> >> voting system, but we can talk this week at my place.
> >> -Zach
> >> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Brad Collette
> >> <shopinthewo...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>> We had a good turnout on Saturday and looked at two places. One of the
> >>> two also has a smaller/cheaper little sister that we didn't see
> directly
> >>> but which I'm getting more information about.
> >>> Here's a summary of what we saw/discussed. Please chime in if I missed
> >>> anything.
> >>> 1) Any of the spaces would meet our needs but in very different ways.
> >>> The
> >>> smallest space would be affordable now with the number of committed
> >>> members
> >>> we currently have. It would be basically a shared workshop. (Assuming
> >>> $30/month member dues)
> >>> The middle space is twice as large but we would need at least 15
> >>> committed
> >>> members. It's large enough for a shop and could (barely) serve to run
> >>> basic classes.
> >>> Both of these spaces are very basic but serviceable. There's only a
> >>> single shared bathroom for the entire facility and it is, to put it
> >>> mildly,
> >>> "a guy's bathroom"
> >>> The largest space is very nice. It's modern, professional appearing,
> >>> and
> >>> would be quite comfortable. It's also the kind of place where we could
> >>> run
> >>> classes to raise additional revenue and expand membership. To make it
> >>> work, we would need 20 or more committed members AND a viable plan
> >>> to continuously run classes that generate additional revenue.
> >>> 2) There seemed to be general consensus that as nice as the big space
> >>> is,
> >>> we don't have either the membership or organizational discipline to
> pull
> >>> it
> >>> off.
> >>> 3) Moving/upgrading spaces won't be difficult as we grow so starting
> >>> small
> >>> is good.
> >>> Bottom line conclusion: We want to move forward with either the small
> >>> or
> >>> medium space. To do so, we're going to take a vote. The vote will
> >>> happen
> >>> in the form of a meeting to occur in December.
> >>> Your vote will be a check for three months dues ($90). This will cover
> >>> first and last months rent and security deposit. We'll decide on which
> >>> space we rent based on the number of committed members we have. If we
> >>> don't raise enough for the small space, all checks will be returned.
> >>> All paying members will have equal access to the space and a vote in
> the
> >>> operating rules to be established.
> >>> My suggestion would be the December 20th Hacknight meeting at Zach's
> >>> place
> >>> to take a vote.
> Brad. Here is another option that the "treasurer" could use.
> https://squareup.com/ just add a 2.75% convience fee to monthly dues
> to cover the expense of credit card processing. It is also simple to
> file a LLC. So that no one member is saddled with the liability of
> rent/expenses etc etc etc.
> On 11/13/12, Zach Zeman gamerdon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sounds like a plan. I have some questions about the implementation and
> the
> > voting system, but we can talk this week at my place.
> > -Zach
> > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Brad Collette
> > shopinthewo...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> We had a good turnout on Saturday and looked at two places. One of the
> >> two also has a smaller/cheaper little sister that we didn't see
> directly
> >> but which I'm getting more information about.
> >> Here's a summary of what we saw/discussed. Please chime in if I missed
> >> anything.
> >> 1) Any of the spaces would meet our needs but in very different ways.
> >> The
> >> smallest space would be affordable now with the number of committed
> >> members
> >> we currently have. It would be basically a shared workshop. (Assuming
> >> $30/month member dues)
> >> The middle space is twice as large but we would need at least 15
> >> committed
> >> members. It's large enough for a shop and could (barely) serve to run
> >> basic classes.
> >> Both of these spaces are very basic but serviceable. There's only a
> >> single shared bathroom for the entire facility and it is, to put it
> >> mildly,
> >> "a guy's bathroom"
> >> The largest space is very nice. It's modern, professional appearing,
> and
> >> would be quite comfortable. It's also the kind of place where we could
> >> run
> >> classes to raise additional revenue and expand membership. To make it
> >> work, we would need 20 or more committed members AND a viable plan
> >> to continuously run classes that generate additional revenue.
> >> 2) There seemed to be general consensus that as nice as the big space
> is,
> >> we don't have either the membership or organizational discipline to
> pull
> >> it
> >> off.
> >> 3) Moving/upgrading spaces won't be difficult as we grow so starting
> >> small
> >> is good.
> >> Bottom line conclusion: We want to move forward with either the small
> or
> >> medium space. To do so, we're going to take a vote. The vote will
> >> happen
> >> in the form of a meeting to occur in December.
> >> Your vote will be a check for three months dues ($90). This will cover
> >> first and last months rent and security deposit. We'll decide on which
> >> space we rent based on the number of committed members we have. If we
> >> don't raise enough for the small space, all checks will be returned.
> >> All paying members will have equal access to the space and a vote in
> the
> >> operating rules to be established.
> >> My suggestion would be the December 20th Hacknight meeting at Zach's
> >> place
> >> to take a vote.
Is the group being organized for-profit or not-for-profit? Just curious as
it affects donations, et cetera
On Nov 13, 2012 2:37 PM, <Scott.Kovale...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm pretty sure we're firmly in the not-for-profit realm. Actually becoming
a 501c3 tax-exempt organization, however, will probably wait until we are
much larger.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Nathan Odle <nathan.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is the group being organized for-profit or not-for-profit? Just curious
> as it affects donations, et cetera
> On Nov 13, 2012 2:37 PM, <Scott.Kovale...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I was looking at those commercials this weekend and thinking that might
>> be good for dues collection.
>> On , Carl Campbell <dicthor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Brad. Here is another option that the "treasurer" could use.
I picked one up After finding out about them in the July Wired. I
have only test swiped it but it works and I figured it would be handy
for selling on CL/Yardsales.
Carl
On 11/13/12, Scott.Kovale...@gmail.com <Scott.Kovale...@gmail.com> wrote:
