Lua Group

[Nicholas Warner]

Hey dudes, we're starting a Lua meet up group! interested? tweet @xtoddx

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[Aaron Arnett]

Sounds interesting... Is there a particular direction in mind for a lua-specific group?

Personally I'd love to see something like an 'emerging-languages' group... Where a variety of compelling but lesser used - and likely not large enough to maintain a dedicated crowd for the duration - languages and related technologies could be presented on, discussed and otherwise fostered...

Depending on the format, it could have something new and useful for everybody...

Thanks,

Aaron

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[Brian Smith]

+1

-brian

[Dave]

--- On Thu, 11/1/12, Nicholas Warner <nickw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Nicholas Warner <nickw...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Lua Group
> To: coll...@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 1, 2012, 11:08 AM
>
> Hey dudes, we're starting a Lua meet up group! interested?
> tweet @xtoddx

Lua? Hmmm:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lua#Hawaiian

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Dave

[Dave]

--- On Thu, 11/1/12, Aaron Arnett <aaar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Aaron Arnett <aaar...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Lua Group
> To: coll...@googlegroups.com

> Date: Thursday, November 1, 2012, 11:50 AM
>
> Sounds interesting... Is there a particular direction in mind for
> a lua-specific group?
>
> Personally I'd love to see something like an 'emerging-languages'
> group... Where a variety of compelling but lesser used - and likely
> not large enough to maintain a dedicated crowd for the duration -
> languages and related technologies could be presented on, discussed
> and otherwise fostered...

I'm a fan of REXX:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rexx

> Depending on the format, it could have something new and useful for
> everybody...
>
> Thanks,Aaron

Dave

[Jerome Hollon]

I've been using lua quite extensively for mobile phone app development via the corona sdk. If there's interest, I'd be happy to do a brief talk/workshop on it.

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[Brian Smith]

Which mobile phone env? I'd be interested in alternative methods for mobile development other than Java (Android) and iPhone's XCode + Obj-c crud... particularly if I can develop with my existing development env.

-brian

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[Cory Stargel]

+1

[Jerome Hollon]

That's the beauty of corona. Both platform support OpenGL, which has a lua interpreter, which they exploit. So I have one code set and can deploy to Android, nook, kindle, and iOS. 

I could do a demo or talk about it next Wednesday if you guys are interested. I'm never been to the building, is there a projector/big monitor with hdmi? 

On Thursday, November 1, 2012 1:54:26 PM UTC-4, Cory Stargel wrote:

+1

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Brian Smith <pin...@gmail.com> wrote:

Which mobile phone env? I'd be interested in alternative methods for mobile development other than Java (Android) and iPhone's XCode + Obj-c crud... particularly if I can develop with my existing development env.

-brian

On 11/01/12 13:34, Jerome Hollon wrote:

I've been using lua quite extensively for mobile phone app development via the corona sdk. If there's interest, I'd be happy to do a brief talk/workshop on it.

[Nicholas Warner]

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Jerome Hollon <jerome...@gmail.com> wrote:

That's the beauty of corona. Both platform support OpenGL, which has a lua interpreter, which they exploit. So I have one code set and can deploy to Android, nook, kindle, and iOS. 

I could do a demo or talk about it next Wednesday if you guys are interested.

sounds great!

 

I'm never been to the building, is there a projector/big monitor with hdmi? 

yes, we have an hd projector with hdmi

 

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[Todd Willey]

IT IS SETTLED.  November 7, 2012 6PM @ Collexion -- Lua club initial meeting featuring corona for mobile development.

[Jerome Hollon]

Would you guys prefer a demo/talk, a workshop that you participate in, or both?

[Brian Smith]

Is there a google public calendar for Collexion? Or some sort of calendar that lightening in thunderbird can slurp in?

-brian

[Nicholas Warner]

https://www.google.com/calendar/b/0/embed?src=rijtvomsveu6p...@group.calendar.google.com

[nx]

Anybody building anything in Lua right now? i.e. games?

[Brian]

Awesome window manager uses lua, I have a bunch of stuff hacked into it.

-brian on droid

[Christopher Harn]

http://www.kentucky.com/2012/11/02/2393316/fayette-test-scores-vary-widely.html

 

I would love to see an overlay of these schools test scores, their districts, property values, an other economic indicators...

 

use the data from the PVA?

 

or opendatalex?

 

thoughts?

 

[Chad Cottle]

At this point in time, school districts are not "open data."  They have historically been tightly controlled by FCPS and will not be part of the data sets available at launch.  Open Lexington should make it a priority to visit them and make the case for opening up their data.  Nick Such and I had this on our radar back in the summer but it fell off.  Once we (the city) go live next week I firmly feel that others will follow suit if for no other reason than looking bad if they don't.

Does the PVA allow one to get a total dump of their address and assessed valued property?  We (the city) maintain the parcels/lot lines but we have no stake in the assessment game.  I do know that once per year the "certified tax roll" for all properties are sent to the state for their blessing so it is all public data and should be made available.  Has anyone every asked the PVA for this?  He seems like he is trying to foster better relations with the community so he may be agreeable to this.

So, if you have those data sets it becomes pretty easy at that point to just use a GIS package to throw it all together and do some analysis.  Given that we have looked at this data for the past 15 years internally, I don't think you are going to find anything too exciting.

The only real "gotcha" is when you consider that there is a percentage (not sure how high or low it is) of students who are out of district or participate in a magnet program that is not based on their address....so they don't fall neatly into boxes.

If one were so inclined or bored you could download their PDFs and digitize the school districts in less than an hour.  :)

Sorry for rambling.  Hope this helps.
Chad

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[Jerome Hollon]

What about using zillow or truilia for property value "estimates"? Zillow even has an API: http://www.zillow.com/howto/api/GetZestimate.htm

[Blake Hall]

The Census also has some housing data. Here the NYTimes made some really awesome maps using a bunch of census data: http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2010/explorer
Specifically the median home value. It's broken up by census tracts.

[Mindy Antonchak]

I do know that David O'Neil has worked very hard to modernize the PVA office and I would imagine he would be very open to collaboration of open data.  

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[Andrew Wyllie]

Chad makes a good point about matching school scores to neighborhoods.  Many of the scores will be skewed by magnet programs as well as parents trying to cheat the system.  The school board has an incentive to move magnet programs to schools that do not test well - that's why the gifted and talented program runs at Winburn middle school as opposed to a school which is more central to the students that use it.  Parents that are concerned about school testing scores will go to great lengths to get their kids into the top performing schools, regardless of where they live.  This is not to say that there would not be any value in combing the school and property value data, but that the analysis would not simply be a matter of combing the two data sets and printing out a map.

I would like to see a better assessment done on schools which include more factors than just test scores.  It might also be interesting if you could break out test scores from students in magnet programs (the kids that are "bused in") and then associate them back to their own neighborhood (like x percentage of kids in some neighborhood are going out of their district for school) which would give you a better idea of how property values correlate to level of education.

Cool stuff - I'm looking forward to the launch of Open Lexington and I'm hoping to participate as it moves forward.

Andrew

[Thomas D'Andrea Jr.]

Zillow is OK... however their calculations are based on recent sales history. We have found that areas that don't have recent sales are way undervalued. In one subdivision I examined, only 2 houses had sold out of about 50 in the past 20 years. The Zillow estimates ended up being over $100,000 out of touch with what the houses were actually worth at dollars per square foot. Also, because Zillow tries to formulate using averages, it is also affected where subdivision boundaries occur. From what I could tell, Zillow seems to be better for areas that have high turnover and are in the middle of a subdivision, but can't really be relied upon for much else other than current PVA value and last sale value.

[Warren Myers]

I agree that the school district data isn't perfect - but the "districts" themselves aren't secret :)

That being said, I'm looking forward to the Open Data Lex event next week myself

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[Christopher Harn]

Thanks for all your thoughts on this!

Net-net I guess we can sum it up to what we already know which is that there is a pattern between the wealth of the community and the kid’s academic scores.

 

Since these scores do vary widely does that not imply that our schools are economically segregated?

 

From: Warren Myers

Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 10:55 AM

To: coll...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: FCPS Test Scores

 

I agree that the school district data isn't perfect - but the "districts" themselves aren't secret :)

 

That being said, I'm looking forward to the Open Data Lex event next week myself

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Chad Cottle <opend...@gmail.com> wrote:

At this point in time, school districts are not "open data."  They have historically been tightly controlled by FCPS and will not be part of the data sets available at launch.  Open Lexington should make it a priority to visit them and make the case for opening up their data.  Nick Such and I had this on our radar back in the summer but it fell off.  Once we (the city) go live next week I firmly feel that others will follow suit if for no other reason than looking bad if they don't.

Does the PVA allow one to get a total dump of their address and assessed valued property?  We (the city) maintain the parcels/lot lines but we have no stake in the assessment game.  I do know that once per year the "certified tax roll" for all properties are sent to the state for their blessing so it is all public data and should be made available.  Has anyone every asked the PVA for this?  He seems like he is trying to foster better relations with the community so he may be agreeable to this.

So, if you have those data sets it becomes pretty easy at that point to just use a GIS package to throw it all together and do some analysis.  Given that we have looked at this data for the past 15 years internally, I don't think you are going to find anything too exciting.

The only real "gotcha" is when you consider that there is a percentage (not sure how high or low it is) of students who are out of district or participate in a magnet program that is not based on their address....so they don't fall neatly into boxes.

If one were so inclined or bored you could download their PDFs and digitize the school districts in less than an hour.  :)

Sorry for rambling.  Hope this helps.
Chad

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Christopher Harn <har...@hotmail.com> wrote:

http://www.kentucky.com/2012/11/02/2393316/fayette-test-scores-vary-widely.html

 

I would love to see an overlay of these schools test scores, their districts, property values, an other economic indicators...

 

use the data from the PVA?

 

or opendatalex?

 

thoughts?

 

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[Chase Southard]

Yes! Let's work on this.

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[Brian Smith]

Just to touch base, We're still meeting tonight at 6PM for Lua / Corona?

-brian

[Ben Gold]

I plan on heading in, hope someone's there to learn us some good..

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[Todd Willey]

Yes!  I'll bring some drinks & pizza (I may be a touch late, though).

6PM @ Collexion garage.

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Brian Smith <pin...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Jerome Hollon]

I'll be there!

[Jerome Hollon]

Hey guys,

Corona invited me to write a guest blog post about our meeting, and they've finally published it (after they edited it).

See it here:
    http://www.coronalabs.com/blog/2013/01/03/spreading-the-word-about-corona-guest-post/

If you guys are interested in a Google Hangout with the Corona dev team, that is something they do, I can talk with their PR lady and see if they're interested.

Regards,
Jerome

[David Hempy]

I just spent a little while reading up on Corona.  Now I'm way bummed I didn't attend the demo at Collexion.  I'll keep an eye out for any repeat performances in the area.

-dave