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Subject: Re: FCPS Test Scores
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 20:39:37 -0400
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Thanks for all your thoughts on this!
Net-net I guess we can sum it up to what we already know which is that =
there is a pattern between the wealth of the community and the =
kid=E2=80=99s academic scores.

Since these scores do vary widely does that not imply that our schools =
are economically segregated?

From: Warren Myers=20
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 10:55 AM
To: collexion@googlegroups.com=20
Subject: Re: FCPS Test Scores

I agree that the school district data isn't perfect - but the =
"districts" themselves aren't secret :)=20

That being said, I'm looking forward to the Open Data Lex event next =
week myself



On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Chad Cottle <opendata...@gmail.com> =
wrote:

  At this point in time, school districts are not "open data."  They =
have historically been tightly controlled by FCPS and will not be part =
of the data sets available at launch.  Open Lexington should make it a =
priority to visit them and make the case for opening up their data.  =
Nick Such and I had this on our radar back in the summer but it fell =
off.  Once we (the city) go live next week I firmly feel that others =
will follow suit if for no other reason than looking bad if they don't.

  Does the PVA allow one to get a total dump of their address and =
assessed valued property?  We (the city) maintain the parcels/lot lines =
but we have no stake in the assessment game.  I do know that once per =
year the "certified tax roll" for all properties are sent to the state =
for their blessing so it is all public data and should be made =
available.  Has anyone every asked the PVA for this?  He seems like he =
is trying to foster better relations with the community so he may be =
agreeable to this.

  So, if you have those data sets it becomes pretty easy at that point =
to just use a GIS package to throw it all together and do some analysis. =
 Given that we have looked at this data for the past 15 years =
internally, I don't think you are going to find anything too exciting.

  The only real "gotcha" is when you consider that there is a percentage =
(not sure how high or low it is) of students who are out of district or =
participate in a magnet program that is not based on their address....so =
they don't fall neatly into boxes.

  If one were so inclined or bored you could download their PDFs and =
digitize the school districts in less than an hour.  :)

  Sorry for rambling.  Hope this helps.
  Chad=20




  On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Christopher Harn <har...@hotmail.com> =
wrote:

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http://www.kentucky.com/2012/11/02/2393316/fayette-test-scores-vary-widel=
y.html

    I would love to see an overlay of these schools test scores, their =
districts, property values, an other economic indicators...

    use the data from the PVA?

    or opendatalex?

    thoughts?
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<DIV>Thanks for all your thoughts on this!</DIV>
<DIV>Net-net I guess we can sum it up to what we already know which is =
that=20
there is a pattern between the wealth of the community and the =
kid=E2=80=99s academic=20
scores.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Since these scores do vary widely does that not imply that our =
schools are=20
economically segregated?</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 02, 2012 10:55 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: FCPS Test Scores</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: =
none">I=20
agree that the school district data isn't perfect - but the "districts"=20
themselves aren't secret :)=20
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>That being said, I'm looking forward to the Open Data Lex event =
next week=20
myself</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_extra><BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Chad Cottle =
<SPAN=20
dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:opendata...@gmail.com"=20
target=3D_blank>opendata...@gmail.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20
class=3Dgmail_quote>At this point in time, school districts are not =
"open=20
  data."&nbsp; They have historically been tightly controlled by FCPS =
and will=20
  not be part of the data sets available at launch.&nbsp; Open Lexington =
should=20
  make it a priority to visit them and make the case for opening up =
their=20
  data.&nbsp; Nick Such and I had this on our radar back in the summer =
but it=20
  fell off.&nbsp; Once we (the city) go live next week I firmly feel =
that others=20
  will follow suit if for no other reason than looking bad if they=20
  don't.<BR><BR>Does the PVA allow one to get a total dump of their =
address and=20
  assessed valued property?&nbsp; We (the city) maintain the parcels/lot =
lines=20
  but we have no stake in the assessment game.&nbsp; I do know that once =
per=20
  year the "certified tax roll" for all properties are sent to the state =
for=20
  their blessing so it is all public data and should be made =
available.&nbsp;=20
  Has anyone every asked the PVA for this?&nbsp; He seems like he is =
trying to=20
  foster better relations with the community so he may be agreeable to=20
  this.<BR><BR>So, if you have those data sets it becomes pretty easy at =
that=20
  point to just use a GIS package to throw it all together and do some=20
  analysis.&nbsp; Given that we have looked at this data for the past 15 =
years=20
  internally, I don't think you are going to find anything too=20
  exciting.<BR><BR>The only real "gotcha" is when you consider that =
there is a=20
  percentage (not sure how high or low it is) of students who are out of =

  district or participate in a magnet program that is not based on their =

  address....so they don't fall neatly into boxes.<BR><BR>If one were so =

  inclined or bored you could download their PDFs and digitize the =
school=20
  districts in less than an hour.&nbsp; :)<BR><BR>Sorry for =
rambling.&nbsp; Hope=20
  this helps.<SPAN class=3DHOEnZb><FONT =
color=3D#888888><BR>Chad</FONT></SPAN>=20
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  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Christopher =
Harn <SPAN=20
  dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:har...@hotmail.com"=20
  target=3D_blank>har...@hotmail.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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    <DIV><A=20
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title=3Dhttp://www.kentucky.com/2012/11/02/2393316/fayette-test-scores-va=
ry-widely.html=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.kentucky.com/2012/11/02/2393316/fayette-test-scores-va=
ry-widely.html"=20
    =
target=3D_blank>http://www.kentucky.com/2012/11/02/2393316/fayette-test-s=
cores-vary-widely.html</A></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>I would love to see an overlay of these schools test scores, =
their=20
    districts, property values, an other economic indicators...</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>use the data from the PVA?</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>or opendatalex?</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>thoughts?</DIV><SPAN><FONT color=3D#888888>
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