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Nicholas Warner  
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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 11:08:43 -0400
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Hey dudes, we're starting a Lua meet up group! interested? tweet @xtoddx

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Aaron Arnett  
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Sounds interesting... Is there a particular direction in mind for a
lua-specific group?

Personally I'd love to see something like an 'emerging-languages' group...
Where a variety of compelling but lesser used - and likely not large enough
to maintain a dedicated crowd for the duration - languages and related
technologies could be presented on, discussed and otherwise fostered...

Depending on the format, it could have something new and useful for
everybody...

Thanks,
Aaron

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Brian Smith  
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+1

-brian

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Dave  
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--- On Thu, 11/1/12, Nicholas Warner <nickwar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Nicholas Warner <nickwar...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Lua Group
> To: collexion@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 1, 2012, 11:08 AM

> Hey dudes, we're starting a Lua meet up group! interested?
> tweet @xtoddx

Lua?  Hmmm:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lua#Hawaiian

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--- On Thu, 11/1/12, Aaron Arnett <aaarn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Aaron Arnett <aaarn...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Lua Group
> To: collexion@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 1, 2012, 11:50 AM

> Sounds interesting... Is there a particular direction in mind for
> a lua-specific group?

> Personally I'd love to see something like an 'emerging-languages'
> group... Where a variety of compelling but lesser used - and likely
> not large enough to maintain a dedicated crowd for the duration -
> languages and related technologies could be presented on, discussed
> and otherwise fostered...

I'm a fan of REXX:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rexx

> Depending on the format, it could have something new and useful for
> everybody...

> Thanks,Aaron

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Jerome Hollon  
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I've been using lua quite extensively for mobile phone app development via the corona sdk. If there's interest, I'd be happy to do a brief talk/workshop on it.

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Brian Smith  
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Which mobile phone env? I'd be interested in alternative methods for
mobile development other than Java (Android) and iPhone's XCode + Obj-c
crud... particularly if I can develop with my existing development env.

-brian

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Cory Stargel  
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Jerome Hollon  
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That's the beauty of corona. Both platform support OpenGL, which has a lua
interpreter, which they exploit. So I have one code set and can deploy to
Android, nook, kindle, and iOS.

I could do a demo or talk about it next Wednesday if you guys are
interested. I'm never been to the building, is there a projector/big
monitor with hdmi?


 
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Nicholas Warner  
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On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Jerome Hollon <jeromehol...@gmail.com>wrote:

> That's the beauty of corona. Both platform support OpenGL, which has a lua
> interpreter, which they exploit. So I have one code set and can deploy to
> Android, nook, kindle, and iOS.

> I could do a demo or talk about it next Wednesday if you guys are
> interested.

sounds great!

> I'm never been to the building, is there a projector/big monitor with hdmi?

yes, we have an hd projector with hdmi

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Todd Willey  
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IT IS SETTLED.  November 7, 2012 6PM @ Collexion -- Lua club initial
meeting featuring corona for mobile development.

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Jerome Hollon  
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Would you guys prefer a demo/talk, a workshop that you participate in, or
both?


 
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Is there a google public calendar for Collexion? Or some sort of
calendar that lightening in thunderbird can slurp in?

-brian

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https://www.google.com/calendar/b/0/embed?src=rijtvomsveu6pf9p6f48hh8...@group.calendar.google.com

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Anybody building anything in Lua right now? i.e. games?


 
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Awesome window manager uses lua, I have a bunch of stuff hacked into it.

-brian on droid
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http://www.kentucky.com/2012/11/02/2393316/fayette-test-scores-vary-w...

I would love to see an overlay of these schools test scores, their districts, property values, an other economic indicators...

use the data from the PVA?

or opendatalex?

thoughts?


 
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At this point in time, school districts are not "open data."  They have
historically been tightly controlled by FCPS and will not be part of the
data sets available at launch.  Open Lexington should make it a priority to
visit them and make the case for opening up their data.  Nick Such and I
had this on our radar back in the summer but it fell off.  Once we (the
city) go live next week I firmly feel that others will follow suit if for
no other reason than looking bad if they don't.

Does the PVA allow one to get a total dump of their address and assessed
valued property?  We (the city) maintain the parcels/lot lines but we have
no stake in the assessment game.  I do know that once per year the
"certified tax roll" for all properties are sent to the state for their
blessing so it is all public data and should be made available.  Has anyone
every asked the PVA for this?  He seems like he is trying to foster better
relations with the community so he may be agreeable to this.

So, if you have those data sets it becomes pretty easy at that point to
just use a GIS package to throw it all together and do some analysis.
Given that we have looked at this data for the past 15 years internally, I
don't think you are going to find anything too exciting.

The only real "gotcha" is when you consider that there is a percentage (not
sure how high or low it is) of students who are out of district or
participate in a magnet program that is not based on their address....so
they don't fall neatly into boxes.

If one were so inclined or bored you could download their PDFs and digitize
the school districts in less than an hour.  :)

Sorry for rambling.  Hope this helps.
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Jerome Hollon  
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What about using zillow or truilia for property value "estimates"?
Zillow even has an API: http://www.zillow.com/howto/api/GetZestimate.htm

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The Census also has some housing data. Here the NYTimes made some really
awesome maps using a bunch of census data:
http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2010/explorer
Specifically the median home value. It's broken up by census tracts.

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I do know that David O'Neil has worked very hard to modernize the PVA
office and I would imagine he would be very open to collaboration of open
data.

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Chad makes a good point about matching school scores to neighborhoods.
Many of the scores will be skewed by magnet programs as well as parents
trying to cheat the system.  The school board has an incentive to move
magnet programs to schools that do not test well - that's why the gifted
and talented program runs at Winburn middle school as opposed to a
school which is more central to the students that use it.  Parents that
are concerned about school testing scores will go to great lengths to
get their kids into the top performing schools, regardless of where they
live.  This is not to say that there would not be any value in combing
the school and property value data, but that the analysis would not
simply be a matter of combing the two data sets and printing out a map.

I would like to see a better assessment done on schools which include
more factors than just test scores.  It might also be interesting if you
could break out test scores from students in magnet programs (the kids
that are "bused in") and then associate them back to their own
neighborhood (like x percentage of kids in some neighborhood are going
out of their district for school) which would give you a better idea of
how property values correlate to level of education.

Cool stuff - I'm looking forward to the launch of Open Lexington and I'm
hoping to participate as it moves forward.

Andrew

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Zillow is OK... however their calculations are based on recent sales
history. We have found that areas that don't have recent sales are way
undervalued. In one subdivision I examined, only 2 houses had sold out of
about 50 in the past 20 years. The Zillow estimates ended up being over
$100,000 out of touch with what the houses were actually worth at dollars
per square foot. Also, because Zillow tries to formulate using averages, it
is also affected where subdivision boundaries occur. From what I could
tell, Zillow seems to be better for areas that have high turnover and are
in the middle of a subdivision, but can't really be relied upon for much
else other than current PVA value and last sale value.


 
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I agree that the school district data isn't perfect - but the "districts"
themselves aren't secret :)

That being said, I'm looking forward to the Open Data Lex event next week
myself

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Thanks for all your thoughts on this!
Net-net I guess we can sum it up to what we already know which is that there is a pattern between the wealth of the community and the kid’s academic scores.

Since these scores do vary widely does that not imply that our schools are economically segregated?

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I agree that the school district data isn't perfect - but the "districts" themselves aren't secret :)

That being said, I'm looking forward to the Open Data Lex event next week myself

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  At this point in time, school districts are not "open data."  They have historically been tightly controlled by FCPS and will not be part of the data sets available at launch.  Open Lexington should make it a priority to visit them and make the case for opening up their data.  Nick Such and I had this on our radar back in the summer but it fell off.  Once we (the city) go live next week I firmly feel that others will follow suit if for no other reason than looking bad if they don't.

  Does the PVA allow one to get a total dump of their address and assessed valued property?  We (the city) maintain the parcels/lot lines but we have no stake in the assessment game.  I do know that once per year the "certified tax roll" for all properties are sent to the state for their blessing so it is all public data and should be made available.  Has anyone every asked the PVA for this?  He seems like he is trying to foster better relations with the community so he may be agreeable to this.

  So, if you have those data sets it becomes pretty easy at that point to just use a GIS package to throw it all together and do some analysis.  Given that we have looked at this data for the past 15 years internally, I don't think you are going to find anything too exciting.

  The only real "gotcha" is when you consider that there is a percentage (not sure how high or low it is) of students who are out of district or participate in a magnet program that is not based on their address....so they don't fall neatly into boxes.

  If one were so inclined or bored you could download their PDFs and digitize the school districts in less than an hour.  :)

  Sorry for rambling.  Hope this helps.
  Chad

  On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Christopher Harn <har...@hotmail.com> wrote:

    http://www.kentucky.com/2012/11/02/2393316/fayette-test-scores-vary-w...

    I would love to see an overlay of these schools test scores, their districts, property values, an other economic indicators...

    use the data from the PVA?

    or opendatalex?

    thoughts?
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