Request for Second Podcast
0 views
Skip to first unread message
Seth
Jul 16, 2009, 9:35:26 AM7/16/09
to Object-Oriented Programming in ColdFusion
I did some research last night on Groovy/Grails and Ruby/Rails as they
were mentioned in the podcast. Two things struck me about them.
1) Each language/framework is OO.
2) The frameworks (Grails and Rails) favor convention over
configuration.
I'd like to hear in the next podcast, a discussion of what, if any,
Coldfusion frameworks meet this criteria. I suspect that there are
none.
In my view, the major problem with OO in Coldfusion is that we non-OO
experts are told there is a right way to do OO, but there is nothing
that can explain it to us, only a vague promise that if we keep trying
we'll eventually get it. We need a framework that has the right way
baked into it, one that favors the right conventions over
configuration and flexibility.
were mentioned in the podcast. Two things struck me about them.
1) Each language/framework is OO.
2) The frameworks (Grails and Rails) favor convention over
configuration.
I'd like to hear in the next podcast, a discussion of what, if any,
Coldfusion frameworks meet this criteria. I suspect that there are
none.
In my view, the major problem with OO in Coldfusion is that we non-OO
experts are told there is a right way to do OO, but there is nothing
that can explain it to us, only a vague promise that if we keep trying
we'll eventually get it. We need a framework that has the right way
baked into it, one that favors the right conventions over
configuration and flexibility.
Peter Bell
Jul 16, 2009, 11:22:29 AM7/16/09
to coldfu...@googlegroups.com
Convention over configuration frameworks in CF? My favorites would be
ColdBox and Model Glue, although that's not to say Mach-II isn't - I
just haven't looked at it in a while. There is also CFWheels which is
a Rails style port with a small but dedicated following.
ColdBox and Model Glue, although that's not to say Mach-II isn't - I
just haven't looked at it in a while. There is also CFWheels which is
a Rails style port with a small but dedicated following.
Sean Corfield
Jul 17, 2009, 4:21:38 AM7/17/09
to coldfu...@googlegroups.com
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Seth<sfel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd like to hear in the next podcast, a discussion of what, if any,
> Coldfusion frameworks meet this criteria. I suspect that there are
> none.
> I'd like to hear in the next podcast, a discussion of what, if any,
> Coldfusion frameworks meet this criteria. I suspect that there are
> none.
ColdBox, cfWheels, Fusebox 5.5 (no-XML).
> In my view, the major problem with OO in Coldfusion is that we non-OO
> experts are told there is a right way to do OO
No, I don't see that message. What I see is people constantly saying
there is no One True Way.
--
Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
Railo Technologies US -- http://getrailo.com/
An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
"If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
-- Margaret Atwood
Sean Corfield
Jul 17, 2009, 4:22:05 AM7/17/09
to coldfu...@googlegroups.com
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Peter Bell<pe...@pbell.com> wrote:
> Convention over configuration frameworks in CF? My favorites would be
> ColdBox and Model Glue, although that's not to say Mach-II isn't
> Convention over configuration frameworks in CF? My favorites would be
> ColdBox and Model Glue, although that's not to say Mach-II isn't
Model-Glue is *not* convention over configuration at all...
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages