Re: Please cancel reservations if you have no ticket

[Justin Pihony]

Actually, that would be a bad thing if you have followed the previous threads. When cancelled, the room goes to a general pool (no discount). Thus why most people are asking for transfers.

On Monday, November 5, 2012 9:06:14 AM UTC-5, Paul wrote:

Please, if you reserved but never got a CodeMash ticket, cancel your hotel reservations.

Many of us who bought tickets are unable to get reservations, especially for Thursday night, as the hotel is completely booked. I know that there is a $25 cancellation fee, but that is the appropriate price to pay for making reservations before tickets went on sale.

I ask you to do the right thing, and remove the complication of trying to transfer rooms only to people "in the know" enough to find this group.

To the conference organizers, I think it may be necessary to require proof of conference attendance when people check in, in order to receive the conference-rate at the hotel. I fear that there may be a significant number of people choosing to take advantage of the significantly discounted rates in order to just make a vacation for themselves, after not getting a ticket to the conference. I hope that is not the case, of course, but with the total lack of availability, I'm forced to wonder.

[Eric Gurney]

At this point, I'd be willing to pay full price as I haven't gotten any responses to my request for a transfer.

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[Jeff Blankenburg]

All, patience is a virtue in this game, unfortunately.  There will literally be dozens of people that determine, at the last minute, that they will not be able to attend (work, family, etc.).  Find yourself a room elsewhere, and then, when these people come forward, pounce.  Both tickets and rooms will start to open up the week before Christmas or so.

 

Right now, those people are still being optimistic that they'll finish their project by the end of the year, but as all good software developers know, deadlines slip.  Just be patient, while securing a place to stay nearby, just in case.

[Debbie Holy]

Vendors are also booked in rooms

[Jim Holmes]

Paul,

We as CodeMash organizers are not going to get in the middle of the
Kalahari's reservation process. As a small group of volunteers we simply
can't manage that.

I think you're inflating the likelihood of people trying to get a cheap rate
at the Kalahari mid-week in January... :)

Jim

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/codemash/-/CYFBdC44tlgJ.

[David Stanek]

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Paul <midd...@gmail.com> wrote:

I hope that is not the case, of course, but with the total lack of availability, I'm forced to wonder.

As I understand it there are something like 750 rooms. The conference is something like 1300 attendees. No matter how you slice it there will be a large number of people staying down the street. Most conferences I go to have this same problem.

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[Robert Casto]

Last year Kalahari said they would be offering more roomsto CodeMash. They want to make money as well and so offering more rooms is a kindness and courtesy they didn't have to offer. Also running a shuttle service from the other hotels is a service they don't have to offer.

I was able to book a room minutes after getting a ticket so the opportunity was there. Although they were at 70% booked when I got my room.

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[David Stanek]

That's a good point. Out of the 750 rooms (assuming that's a close number) they may not have been offering all of them at the Codemash rate anyway.

[Mark Harr]

Paul; I would not expect that anyone is holding rooms without tickets. There are 850 rooms for 1200 attendees, plus 200-300 speakers and staff, plus vendors that are not either. If you factor in other resort guests that made reservations without any idea of the conference, it works out to only a little more than half the attendees staying onsite.

While it is unfortunate that not everyone can stay onsite, it is due to the enormous popularity of the conference and venue.

[bmma...@aep.com]

Everyone that attends code mash is aware of this group. Therefore everyone would receive the same notification when rooms become available. Asking people to cancel their reservations to throw them back in the general pool is wrong as is telling the event organizers how to run an event that they have done one heck of a job at all these years. Just saying.

On Nov 5, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Paul <midd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Please, if you reserved but never got a CodeMash ticket, cancel your hotel reservations.
>
> Many of us who bought tickets are unable to get reservations, especially for Thursday night, as the hotel is completely booked. I know that there is a $25 cancellation fee, but that is the appropriate price to pay for making reservations before tickets went on sale.
>
> I ask you to do the right thing, and remove the complication of trying to transfer rooms only to people "in the know" enough to find this group.
>

> To the conference organizers, I think it may be necessary to require proof of conference attendance when people check in, in order to receive the conference-rate at the hotel. I fear that there may be a significant number of people choosing to take advantage of the significantly discounted rates in order to just make a vacation for themselves, after not getting a ticket to the conference. I hope that is not the case, of course, but with the total lack of availability, I'm forced to wonder.

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[Steve Fazekas]

I think after a few more years of attending CodeMash will give those the snooze ya looze mentality about getting a room in advance.

Being able to get the opportunity to attend CodeMash for me was fair enough. I'll stay anywhere, and the Fairfield Inn was nice. Doing that again this year.

Btw, My iPhone tried to switch looze with Lopez... Sounds about right.

Steve Fazekas

Sent from my iPhone

[Paul]

I certainly mean no offense to the organizers of the event. I do think it is a lot to presume that literally everyone who attends this conferences is aware of, and monitoring, this google group. This is the first year that I was made aware of it. 

I had not been met with difficulty in making hotel reservations in the past; perhaps having to stay at other area hotels is a common occurrence, but I had not heard of it. Perhaps that is why people started making reservations without having tickets. Still, with all those tickets selling out in under 2 minutes, I must imagine that there are many people still sitting on reservations when they cannot attend the conference. I think it is not "wrong" to ask that they cancel these reservations, when they cannot fulfill them. Perhaps, the "right" thing to do is not to make reservations at a hotel when you do not know if you will be using them, if you are unwilling to cancel them?

I'm really not trying to be a jerk about this, I'm just trying to help all the people that are stuck without a place to stay. 

[Michael Eaton]

Perhaps they're holding on to the reservations in the hopes they score
a ticket to the conference. Not much different than your situation,
right? Maybe they're thinking, "I wish the people that got tickets,
but don't have a hotel room would cancel their Codemash ticket."

> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/codemash/-/7n6LyWUC7g8J.

[Matthew Groves]

Uh oh, prisoner's dilemma! Or is it dining philosophers?

[Paul]

hehe, perhaps so ;)

[Antrim, Tate]

@Matt Groves – remember the bango music on the shuttle ride last year?  Those are great codemash memories.

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[Paul Middlin]

Is there a list somewhere of where all the shuttles go to?

[MaggiePlusPlus]

I agree with Mike, I doubt anyone would want to take a vacation during codemash and not attend the conference. I would guess maybe a few room holders don't have tickets and they will likely get tickets as others plans change. Primarily due to their determination which is why they booked a room early.

Maggie

[Brian Krebs]

All,

If you want to cancel your reservation and eat the 25 bucks - go ahead, if you don't, please feel free to use our capitalist system to keep from having to pay a 25 buck cancellation fee by doing an exchange...  After all, the tickets did sell out in 3 minutes and I'm sure that there are some people who were waiting to pounce that just got locked out.  Not fair, but that's life. 

It's also not fair to ask others to cancel a reservation and eat 25 bucks because of it.  :)  I'm cool with it in my inbox as part of being a group member.

Codemash organizers, I'd see if you could get the hotel to waive the cancellation fee for those in our reserved rooms since they'll all be able to be booked anyway..... it would be nice if we could communicate it so that others can take all of the rooms.  (just sayin!)

Otherwise, I for one don't care if people keep using the google groups or whatnot to trade.  If I wasn't commuting, I'd be looking too.

Peace.

Brian

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Paul <midd...@gmail.com> wrote:

Please, if you reserved but never got a CodeMash ticket, cancel your hotel reservations.

Many of us who bought tickets are unable to get reservations, especially for Thursday night, as the hotel is completely booked. I know that there is a $25 cancellation fee, but that is the appropriate price to pay for making reservations before tickets went on sale.

I ask you to do the right thing, and remove the complication of trying to transfer rooms only to people "in the know" enough to find this group.

To the conference organizers, I think it may be necessary to require proof of conference attendance when people check in, in order to receive the conference-rate at the hotel. I fear that there may be a significant number of people choosing to take advantage of the significantly discounted rates in order to just make a vacation for themselves, after not getting a ticket to the conference. I hope that is not the case, of course, but with the total lack of availability, I'm forced to wonder.

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[Duane Collicott]

From personal experience (I became ill the night before Code Mash 2011) I can tell you that Kalahari will hold on to your deposit and apply it to next year, meaning you lose nothing in the long run. They even volunteered that option when I had to call to cancel.

 

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[James Bender]

I think, as someone said earlier, a lot of people are holding onto rooms because there is still a chance they can get a ticket. Things happen and people have to bow out. We ended up with an extra ticket last year that we couldn’t give away, so there will probably be plenty of opportunities in the two weeks before CodeMash to secure a ticket.

 

Also, Jim has stated many times that he’s not going to get in the middle of the Kalahari’s reservation process and with all the resort does to accommodate CodeMash I don’t blame him.

 

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All,