Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning behind the changes.
As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane. 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop of it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways. Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example. Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes? Seconds? No clue.
My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open up registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell them out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open the following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
- Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're trying to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this on our spare time. - Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but not 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public registration. - Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code. YOU MAY NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR TICKET OR YOU PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window) - We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes. Non-Alumni who somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that ticket.
One important additional piece: We're doing away with group registrations. We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small number, well under 20% of total sales.)
If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past then I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that, but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for everyone.
This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of fuss.
As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in public. Reach me at jim.hol...@codemash.org.
First of all, thanks go out to Jim and the rest of the CodeMash board and
volunteers for all of their hard work organizing this event.
For those of us whose companies registered us last year as a group, and may
not have entered our individual email addresses into Eventbrite, is there
any way of requesting the alumni code if we don't get the email?
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Jim Holmes <j...@iterativerose.com> wrote:
> Folks,
> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years
> past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning
> behind the changes.
> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane.
> 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not
> crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop of
> it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year
> with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing
> to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever
> getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core
> acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the
> conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be
> relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways.
> Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the
> conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example.
> Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't
> imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes?
> Seconds? No clue.
> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha
> frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core
> then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for
> alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open
> up registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this
> early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell
> them out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open
> the following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
> - Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're
> trying to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this
> on our spare time.
> - Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but
> not 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public
> registration.
> - Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code.
> YOU MAY NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR
> TICKET OR YOU PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window)
> - We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes.
> Non-Alumni who somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that
> ticket.
> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group registrations.
> We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration
> has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group
> registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the
> percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small
> number, well under 20% of total sales.)
> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past then
> I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your
> organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can
> mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that,
> but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for
> everyone.
> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an
> effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of
> fuss.
> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it
> here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in
> public. Reach me at jim.hol...@codemash.org.
> Regards,
> Jim Holmes
> President, CodeMash Board of Directors
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If only Meijer hadnt cut me out of going last year. Take my chances with the public window. Awesome conference, cant wait to see it this year, hoping I get to speak :)
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:35:45 PM UTC-5, Jim Holmes wrote:
> Folks,
> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years > past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning > behind the changes.
> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane. > 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not > crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop of > it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year > with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing > to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever > getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core > acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the > conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be > relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways. > Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the > conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example. > Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't > imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes? > Seconds? No clue.
> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha > frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core > then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for > alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open > up registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this > early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell > them out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open > the following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
> - Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're > trying to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this > on our spare time. > - Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but > not 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public > registration. > - Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code. > YOU MAY NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR > TICKET OR YOU PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window) > - We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes. > Non-Alumni who somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that > ticket.
> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group registrations. > We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration > has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group > registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the > percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small > number, well under 20% of total sales.)
> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past then > I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your > organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can > mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that, > but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for > everyone.
> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an > effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of > fuss.
> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it > here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in > public. Reach me at jim.h...@codemash.org <javascript:>.
> Regards,
> Jim Holmes > President, CodeMash Board of Directors
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:35:45 PM UTC-4, Jim Holmes wrote:
> Folks,
> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years > past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning > behind the changes.
> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane. > 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not > crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop of > it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year > with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing > to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever > getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core > acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the > conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be > relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways. > Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the > conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example. > Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't > imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes? > Seconds? No clue.
> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha > frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core > then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for > alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open > up registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this > early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell > them out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open > the following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
> - Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're > trying to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this > on our spare time. > - Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but > not 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public > registration. > - Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code. > YOU MAY NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR > TICKET OR YOU PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window) > - We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes. > Non-Alumni who somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that > ticket.
> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group registrations. > We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration > has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group > registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the > percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small > number, well under 20% of total sales.)
> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past then > I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your > organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can > mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that, > but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for > everyone.
> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an > effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of > fuss.
> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it > here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in > public. Reach me at jim.h...@codemash.org <javascript:>.
> Regards,
> Jim Holmes > President, CodeMash Board of Directors
Female over 40 black haired alumni get first crack even a week earlier?
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From: jfarrell
Sent: 9/19/2012 9:45 PM
To: codemash@googlegroups.com
Subject: [CodeMash] Re: Registration Info for CodeMash 2013
If only Meijer hadnt cut me out of going last year. Take my chances with
the public window. Awesome conference, cant wait to see it this year,
hoping I get to speak :)
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:35:45 PM UTC-5, Jim Holmes wrote:
> Folks,
> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years
> past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning
> behind the changes.
> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane.
> 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not
> crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop of
> it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year
> with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing
> to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever
> getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core
> acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the
> conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be
> relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways.
> Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the
> conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example.
> Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't
> imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes?
> Seconds? No clue.
> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha
> frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core
> then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for
> alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open
> up registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this
> early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell
> them out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open
> the following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
> - Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're
> trying to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this
> on our spare time.
> - Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but
> not 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public
> registration.
> - Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code.
> YOU MAY NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR
> TICKET OR YOU PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window)
> - We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes.
> Non-Alumni who somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that
> ticket.
> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group registrations.
> We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration
> has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group
> registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the
> percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small
> number, well under 20% of total sales.)
> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past then
> I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your
> organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can
> mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that,
> but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for
> everyone.
> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an
> effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of
> fuss.
> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it
> here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in
> public. Reach me at jim.h...@codemash.org <javascript:>.
> Regards,
> Jim Holmes
> President, CodeMash Board of Directors
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On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:35:45 PM UTC-4, Jim Holmes wrote:
> Folks,
> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years > past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning > behind the changes.
> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane. > 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not > crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop of > it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year > with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing > to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever > getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core > acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the > conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be > relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways. > Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the > conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example. > Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't > imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes? > Seconds? No clue.
> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha > frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core > then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for > alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open > up registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this > early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell > them out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open > the following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
> - Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're > trying to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this > on our spare time. > - Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but > not 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public > registration. > - Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code. > YOU MAY NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR > TICKET OR YOU PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window) > - We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes. > Non-Alumni who somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that > ticket.
> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group registrations. > We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration > has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group > registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the > percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small > number, well under 20% of total sales.)
> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past then > I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your > organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can > mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that, > but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for > everyone.
> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an > effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of > fuss.
> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it > here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in > public. Reach me at jim.h...@codemash.org <javascript:>.
> Regards,
> Jim Holmes > President, CodeMash Board of Directors
As someone who was at the 2011 event and then missed 2012 due to the insanity of how fast tickets went I feel like I'm now getting double punished. Bad enough to miss last year, now my chances of getting a ticket this year are going to be even worse. I do not love this decision, and if you are trying to reward people who were involved early on in Codemash only rewarding 2012 attendees seems shortsighted since that was the first year I'm betting a lot of the "originals" you are trying to protect were forced to stay home.
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:35:45 PM UTC-4, Jim Holmes wrote:
> Folks,
> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years > past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning > behind the changes.
> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane. > 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not > crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop of > it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year > with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing > to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever > getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core > acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the > conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be > relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways. > Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the > conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example. > Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't > imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes? > Seconds? No clue.
> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha > frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core > then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for > alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open > up registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this > early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell > them out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open > the following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
> - Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're > trying to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this > on our spare time. > - Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but > not 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public > registration. > - Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code. > YOU MAY NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR > TICKET OR YOU PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window) > - We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes. > Non-Alumni who somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that > ticket.
> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group registrations. > We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration > has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group > registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the > percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small > number, well under 20% of total sales.)
> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past then > I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your > organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can > mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that, > but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for > everyone.
> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an > effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of > fuss.
> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it > here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in > public. Reach me at jim.h...@codemash.org <javascript:>.
> Regards,
> Jim Holmes > President, CodeMash Board of Directors
One thing to keep in mind: even last year, tickets went unsold (or,
unused). The situation usually is that someone purchased a ticket, and then
couldn't attend due to work or family scheduling, so they tried to sell the
ticket (at cost) to someone who could attend. Some of these were never
successfully resold due to a lack if interest, and thus, were not used.
Even if you miss the sales window, keep that week open on your calendar,
and be ready to jump on the opportunity to use the "send a geek in my
place" policy.
On Sep 20, 2012 7:47 AM, "Scott Wachtmann" <swach...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gotta say I'm kind of disappointed to hear this.
> As someone who was at the 2011 event and then missed 2012 due to
> the insanity of how fast tickets went I feel like I'm now getting double
> punished. Bad enough to miss last year, now my chances of getting a ticket
> this year are going to be even worse. I do not love this decision, and if
> you are trying to reward people who were involved early on in Codemash only
> rewarding 2012 attendees seems shortsighted since that was the first year
> I'm betting a lot of the "originals" you are trying to protect were forced
> to stay home.
> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:35:45 PM UTC-4, Jim Holmes wrote:
>> Folks,
>> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years
>> past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning
>> behind the changes.
>> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane.
>> 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not
>> crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
>> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop
>> of it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every
>> year with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up
>> willing to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without
>> ever getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That
>> core acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the
>> conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be
>> relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways.
>> Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the
>> conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example.
>> Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
>> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
>> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't
>> imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes?
>> Seconds? No clue.
>> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha
>> frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core
>> then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
>> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for
>> alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open
>> up registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this
>> early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell
>> them out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open
>> the following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
>> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
>> - Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're
>> trying to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this
>> on our spare time.
>> - Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but
>> not 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public
>> registration.
>> - Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code.
>> YOU MAY NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR
>> TICKET OR YOU PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window)
>> - We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes.
>> Non-Alumni who somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that
>> ticket.
>> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group
>> registrations. We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash
>> registration has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping
>> group registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear:
>> the percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively
>> small number, well under 20% of total sales.)
>> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past
>> then I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with
>> your organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that
>> can mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about
>> that, but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for
>> everyone.
>> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an
>> effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of
>> fuss.
>> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it
>> here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in
>> public. Reach me at jim.h...@codemash.org.
>> Regards,
>> Jim Holmes
>> President, CodeMash Board of Directors
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I believe that for the most part those who utilized this email list to sell their tix up to a week out were able to sell their tix. I recall a couple people waited too long and could not sell theirs at the last couple days left.
The market for our line of work is better this year than last. I did not have a ticket last year and was able to get one the week before. there were almost a dozen tix made available around two weeks before so don't worry if you can't get tix right away. I'm sure there will be some available three weeks out.
Steve Fazekas
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 20, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Jason Follas <jfol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One thing to keep in mind: even last year, tickets went unsold (or, unused). The situation usually is that someone purchased a ticket, and then couldn't attend due to work or family scheduling, so they tried to sell the ticket (at cost) to someone who could attend. Some of these were never successfully resold due to a lack if interest, and thus, were not used.
> Even if you miss the sales window, keep that week open on your calendar, and be ready to jump on the opportunity to use the "send a geek in my place" policy.
> On Sep 20, 2012 7:47 AM, "Scott Wachtmann" <swach...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gotta say I'm kind of disappointed to hear this.
> As someone who was at the 2011 event and then missed 2012 due to the insanity of how fast tickets went I feel like I'm now getting double punished. Bad enough to miss last year, now my chances of getting a ticket this year are going to be even worse. I do not love this decision, and if you are trying to reward people who were involved early on in Codemash only rewarding 2012 attendees seems shortsighted since that was the first year I'm betting a lot of the "originals" you are trying to protect were forced to stay home.
> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:35:45 PM UTC-4, Jim Holmes wrote:
> Folks,
> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning behind the changes.
> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane. 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop of it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways. Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example. Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes? Seconds? No clue.
> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open up registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell them out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open the following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
> Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're trying to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this on our spare time.
> Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but not 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public registration.
> Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code. YOU MAY NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR TICKET OR YOU PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window)
> We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes. Non-Alumni who somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that ticket.
> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group registrations. We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small number, well under 20% of total sales.)
> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past then I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that, but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for everyone.
> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of fuss.
> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in public. Reach me at jim.h...@codemash.org.
> Regards,
> Jim Holmes
> President, CodeMash Board of Directors
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On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Jason Follas <jfol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One thing to keep in mind: even last year, tickets went unsold (or,
> unused). The situation usually is that someone purchased a ticket, and then
> couldn't attend due to work or family scheduling, so they tried to sell the
> ticket (at cost) to someone who could attend. Some of these were never
> successfully resold due to a lack if interest, and thus, were not used.
> Even if you miss the sales window, keep that week open on your calendar,
> and be ready to jump on the opportunity to use the "send a geek in my
> place" policy.
> On Sep 20, 2012 7:47 AM, "Scott Wachtmann" <swach...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Gotta say I'm kind of disappointed to hear this.
>> As someone who was at the 2011 event and then missed 2012 due to
>> the insanity of how fast tickets went I feel like I'm now getting double
>> punished. Bad enough to miss last year, now my chances of getting a ticket
>> this year are going to be even worse. I do not love this decision, and if
>> you are trying to reward people who were involved early on in Codemash only
>> rewarding 2012 attendees seems shortsighted since that was the first year
>> I'm betting a lot of the "originals" you are trying to protect were forced
>> to stay home.
>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:35:45 PM UTC-4, Jim Holmes wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years
>>> past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning
>>> behind the changes.
>>> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown
>>> insane. 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well,
>>> it's not crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
>>> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop
>>> of it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every
>>> year with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up
>>> willing to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without
>>> ever getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That
>>> core acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the
>>> conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be
>>> relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways.
>>> Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the
>>> conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example.
>>> Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
>>> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
>>> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't
>>> imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes?
>>> Seconds? No clue.
>>> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha
>>> frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core
>>> then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
>>> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for
>>> alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open
>>> up registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this
>>> early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell
>>> them out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open
>>> the following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
>>> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
>>> - Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're
>>> trying to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this
>>> on our spare time.
>>> - Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes,
>>> but not 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public
>>> registration.
>>> - Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code.
>>> YOU MAY NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR
>>> TICKET OR YOU PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window)
>>> - We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes.
>>> Non-Alumni who somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that
>>> ticket.
>>> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group
>>> registrations. We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash
>>> registration has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping
>>> group registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear:
>>> the percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively
>>> small number, well under 20% of total sales.)
>>> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past
>>> then I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with
>>> your organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that
>>> can mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about
>>> that, but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for
>>> everyone.
>>> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an
>>> effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of
>>> fuss.
>>> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it
>>> here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in
>>> public. Reach me at jim.h...@codemash.org.
>>> Regards,
>>> Jim Holmes
>>> President, CodeMash Board of Directors
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I have to agree with Scott, from a slightly different view point. I finally
work for a company that will send me to conferences so only recently found
out about codemash so my guess is I won't have a chance at getting tickets
this year.
What about having a conference 2 times a year or finding a bigger venue?
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 20, 2012, at 6:47 AM, Scott Wachtmann <swach...@gmail.com> wrote:
Gotta say I'm kind of disappointed to hear this.
As someone who was at the 2011 event and then missed 2012 due to
the insanity of how fast tickets went I feel like I'm now getting double
punished. Bad enough to miss last year, now my chances of getting a ticket
this year are going to be even worse. I do not love this decision, and if
you are trying to reward people who were involved early on in Codemash only
rewarding 2012 attendees seems shortsighted since that was the first year
I'm betting a lot of the "originals" you are trying to protect were forced
to stay home.
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:35:45 PM UTC-4, Jim Holmes wrote:
> Folks,
> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years
> past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning
> behind the changes.
> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane.
> 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not
> crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop of
> it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year
> with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing
> to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever
> getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core
> acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the
> conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be
> relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways.
> Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the
> conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example.
> Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't
> imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes?
> Seconds? No clue.
> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha
> frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core
> then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for
> alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open
> up registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this
> early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell
> them out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open
> the following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
> - Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're
> trying to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this
> on our spare time.
> - Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but
> not 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public
> registration.
> - Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code.
> YOU MAY NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR
> TICKET OR YOU PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window)
> - We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes.
> Non-Alumni who somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that
> ticket.
> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group registrations.
> We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration
> has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group
> registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the
> percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small
> number, well under 20% of total sales.)
> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past then
> I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your
> organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can
> mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that,
> but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for
> everyone.
> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an
> effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of
> fuss.
> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it
> here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in
> public. Reach me at jim.h...@codemash.org <javascript:>.
> Regards,
> Jim Holmes
> President, CodeMash Board of Directors
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> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Jason Follas <jfol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> One thing to keep in mind: even last year, tickets went unsold (or,
>> unused). The situation usually is that someone purchased a ticket, and then
>> couldn't attend due to work or family scheduling, so they tried to sell the
>> ticket (at cost) to someone who could attend. Some of these were never
>> successfully resold due to a lack if interest, and thus, were not used.
>> Even if you miss the sales window, keep that week open on your calendar,
>> and be ready to jump on the opportunity to use the "send a geek in my
>> place" policy.
>> On Sep 20, 2012 7:47 AM, "Scott Wachtmann" <swach...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Gotta say I'm kind of disappointed to hear this.
>>> As someone who was at the 2011 event and then missed 2012 due to
>>> the insanity of how fast tickets went I feel like I'm now getting double
>>> punished. Bad enough to miss last year, now my chances of getting a ticket
>>> this year are going to be even worse. I do not love this decision, and if
>>> you are trying to reward people who were involved early on in Codemash only
>>> rewarding 2012 attendees seems shortsighted since that was the first year
>>> I'm betting a lot of the "originals" you are trying to protect were forced
>>> to stay home.
>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:35:45 PM UTC-4, Jim Holmes wrote:
>>>> Folks,
>>>> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years
>>>> past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning
>>>> behind the changes.
>>>> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown
>>>> insane. 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well,
>>>> it's not crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
>>>> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop
>>>> of it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every
>>>> year with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up
>>>> willing to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without
>>>> ever getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That
>>>> core acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the
>>>> conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be
>>>> relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways.
>>>> Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the
>>>> conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example.
>>>> Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
>>>> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
>>>> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't
>>>> imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes?
>>>> Seconds? No clue.
>>>> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha
>>>> frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core
>>>> then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
>>>> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for
>>>> alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open
>>>> up registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this
>>>> early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell
>>>> them out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open
>>>> the following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
>>>> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
>>>> - Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're
>>>> trying to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this
>>>> on our spare time.
>>>> - Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes,
>>>> but not 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public
>>>> registration.
>>>> - Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access
>>>> code. YOU MAY NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY
>>>> YOUR TICKET OR YOU PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window)
>>>> - We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes.
>>>> Non-Alumni who somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that
>>>> ticket.
>>>> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group
>>>> registrations. We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash
>>>> registration has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping
>>>> group registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear:
>>>> the percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively
>>>> small number, well under 20% of total sales.)
>>>> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past
>>>> then I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with
>>>> your organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that
>>>> can mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about
>>>> that, but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for
>>>> everyone.
>>>> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an
>>>> effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of
>>>> fuss.
>>>> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do
>>>> it here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in
>>>> public. Reach me at jim.h...@codemash.org.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jim Holmes
>>>> President, CodeMash Board of Directors
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On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Jim Holmes <j...@iterativerose.com> wrote:
> Folks,
> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years
> past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning
> behind the changes.
> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane.
> 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not
> crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop of
> it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year
> with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing
> to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever
> getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core
> acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the
> conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be
> relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways.
> Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the
> conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example.
> Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't imagine
> what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes? Seconds? No
> clue.
> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha frenzy/shark
> attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core then we lose
> some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for alumni
> of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open up
> registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this
> early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell them
> out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open the
> following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
> Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're trying to
> do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this on our spare
> time.
> Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but not
> 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public
> registration.
> Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code. YOU MAY
> NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR TICKET OR YOU
> PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window)
> We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes. Non-Alumni who
> somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that ticket.
> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group registrations.
> We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration
> has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group
> registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the
> percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small
> number, well under 20% of total sales.)
> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past then I
> heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your
> organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can
> mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that,
> but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for
> everyone.
> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an effort
> to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of fuss.
> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it
> here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in
> public. Reach me at jim.hol...@codemash.org.
> Regards,
> Jim Holmes
> President, CodeMash Board of Directors
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It's interesting, if not a bit annoying, that people seem to think the
Codemash planners didn't work through *all* of these ideas and more
before they came up with their current plan.
There are some things we just have to live with. Nothing says anyone
*must* go to Codemash. There *are* plenty of other conferences in the
region (devlink, codestock, that conference, MADExpo). Yea, Codemash
is awesome, but life will go on for those that can't get tickets this
year, right?
In the end, it is what it is and we all have to deal with it.
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Tim Wilson <tim...@smarttypes.org> wrote:
> What are the constraining factors -- why the 1200 ticket ceiling ?
> Assuming we can't get past these constraints
> Maybe we can assume some % of no-shows in the model
> Another interesting option is limiting the # of tickets an individual
> can purchase (1 credit card / 1 ticket) ??
> Another obvious option (unpopular i assume) is increasing the price
> enough to lower demand
> It seems non-intuitive but maybe make the early-bird price more than
> the normal price -- and the procrastinator price cheaper still ??
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Jim Holmes <j...@iterativerose.com> wrote:
>> Folks,
>> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years
>> past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning
>> behind the changes.
>> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane.
>> 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not
>> crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
>> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop of
>> it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year
>> with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing
>> to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever
>> getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core
>> acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the
>> conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be
>> relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways.
>> Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the
>> conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example.
>> Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
>> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
>> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't imagine
>> what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes? Seconds? No
>> clue.
>> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha frenzy/shark
>> attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core then we lose
>> some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
>> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for alumni
>> of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open up
>> registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this
>> early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell them
>> out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open the
>> following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
>> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
>> Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're trying to
>> do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this on our spare
>> time.
>> Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but not
>> 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public
>> registration.
>> Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code. YOU MAY
>> NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR TICKET OR YOU
>> PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window)
>> We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes. Non-Alumni who
>> somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that ticket.
>> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group registrations.
>> We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration
>> has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group
>> registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the
>> percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small
>> number, well under 20% of total sales.)
>> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past then I
>> heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your
>> organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can
>> mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that,
>> but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for
>> everyone.
>> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an effort
>> to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of fuss.
>> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it
>> here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in
>> public. Reach me at jim.hol...@codemash.org.
>> Regards,
>> Jim Holmes
>> President, CodeMash Board of Directors
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You have as much chance as any other first-time attendee, which is
quite good if you're sitting at your computer at the appointed time
hitting F5. It's never failed for the folks in our office who've
bought tickets for the last several years. But do plan on it selling
out in minutes not days or hours.
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Chris McNear <chris.mcn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have to agree with Scott, from a slightly different view point. I finally
> work for a company that will send me to conferences so only recently found
> out about codemash so my guess is I won't have a chance at getting tickets
> this year.
> What about having a conference 2 times a year or finding a bigger venue?
> Sent from my iPad
> On Sep 20, 2012, at 6:47 AM, Scott Wachtmann <swach...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gotta say I'm kind of disappointed to hear this.
> As someone who was at the 2011 event and then missed 2012 due to the
> insanity of how fast tickets went I feel like I'm now getting double
> punished. Bad enough to miss last year, now my chances of getting a ticket
> this year are going to be even worse. I do not love this decision, and if
> you are trying to reward people who were involved early on in Codemash only
> rewarding 2012 attendees seems shortsighted since that was the first year
> I'm betting a lot of the "originals" you are trying to protect were forced
> to stay home.
> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:35:45 PM UTC-4, Jim Holmes wrote:
>> Folks,
>> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years
>> past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning
>> behind the changes.
>> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane.
>> 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not
>> crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
>> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop of
>> it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year
>> with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing
>> to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever
>> getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core
>> acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the
>> conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be
>> relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways.
>> Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the
>> conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example.
>> Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
>> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
>> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't
>> imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes?
>> Seconds? No clue.
>> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha
>> frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core
>> then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
>> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for
>> alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open up
>> registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this
>> early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell them
>> out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open the
>> following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
>> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
>> Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're trying
>> to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this on our
>> spare time.
>> Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but not
>> 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public
>> registration.
>> Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code. YOU MAY
>> NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR TICKET OR YOU
>> PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window)
>> We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes. Non-Alumni who
>> somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that ticket.
>> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group registrations.
>> We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration
>> has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group
>> registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the
>> percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small
>> number, well under 20% of total sales.)
>> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past then
>> I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your
>> organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can
>> mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that,
>> but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for
>> everyone.
>> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an
>> effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of
>> fuss.
>> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it
>> here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in
>> public. Reach me at jim.h...@codemash.org.
>> Regards,
>> Jim Holmes
>> President, CodeMash Board of Directors
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Let's make it like Hunger Games, where you get a chance in the lottery
for every year you've previously attended, and maybe extra chances if
you were a speaker or volunteer or what-have-you... if you've never
attended before, you just get 1 chance.
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Michael Eaton <mjea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's interesting, if not a bit annoying, that people seem to think the
> Codemash planners didn't work through *all* of these ideas and more
> before they came up with their current plan.
> There are some things we just have to live with. Nothing says anyone
> *must* go to Codemash. There *are* plenty of other conferences in the
> region (devlink, codestock, that conference, MADExpo). Yea, Codemash
> is awesome, but life will go on for those that can't get tickets this
> year, right?
> In the end, it is what it is and we all have to deal with it.
> mike
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Tim Wilson <tim...@smarttypes.org> wrote:
>> What are the constraining factors -- why the 1200 ticket ceiling ?
>> Assuming we can't get past these constraints
>> Maybe we can assume some % of no-shows in the model
>> Another interesting option is limiting the # of tickets an individual
>> can purchase (1 credit card / 1 ticket) ??
>> Another obvious option (unpopular i assume) is increasing the price
>> enough to lower demand
>> It seems non-intuitive but maybe make the early-bird price more than
>> the normal price -- and the procrastinator price cheaper still ??
>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Jim Holmes <j...@iterativerose.com> wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years
>>> past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning
>>> behind the changes.
>>> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane.
>>> 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not
>>> crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
>>> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop of
>>> it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year
>>> with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing
>>> to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever
>>> getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core
>>> acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the
>>> conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be
>>> relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways.
>>> Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the
>>> conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example.
>>> Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
>>> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
>>> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't imagine
>>> what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes? Seconds? No
>>> clue.
>>> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha frenzy/shark
>>> attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core then we lose
>>> some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
>>> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for alumni
>>> of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open up
>>> registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this
>>> early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell them
>>> out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open the
>>> following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
>>> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
>>> Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're trying to
>>> do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this on our spare
>>> time.
>>> Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but not
>>> 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public
>>> registration.
>>> Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code. YOU MAY
>>> NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR TICKET OR YOU
>>> PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window)
>>> We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes. Non-Alumni who
>>> somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that ticket.
>>> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group registrations.
>>> We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration
>>> has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group
>>> registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the
>>> percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small
>>> number, well under 20% of total sales.)
>>> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past then I
>>> heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your
>>> organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can
>>> mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that,
>>> but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for
>>> everyone.
>>> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an effort
>>> to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of fuss.
>>> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it
>>> here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in
>>> public. Reach me at jim.hol...@codemash.org.
>>> Regards,
>>> Jim Holmes
>>> President, CodeMash Board of Directors
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On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Michael Eaton <mjea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's interesting, if not a bit annoying, that people seem to think the
> Codemash planners didn't work through *all* of these ideas and more
> before they came up with their current plan.
> There are some things we just have to live with. Nothing says anyone
> *must* go to Codemash. There *are* plenty of other conferences in the
> region (devlink, codestock, that conference, MADExpo). Yea, Codemash
> is awesome, but life will go on for those that can't get tickets this
> year, right?
> In the end, it is what it is and we all have to deal with it.
> mike
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Tim Wilson <tim...@smarttypes.org> wrote:
>> What are the constraining factors -- why the 1200 ticket ceiling ?
>> Assuming we can't get past these constraints
>> Maybe we can assume some % of no-shows in the model
>> Another interesting option is limiting the # of tickets an individual
>> can purchase (1 credit card / 1 ticket) ??
>> Another obvious option (unpopular i assume) is increasing the price
>> enough to lower demand
>> It seems non-intuitive but maybe make the early-bird price more than
>> the normal price -- and the procrastinator price cheaper still ??
>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Jim Holmes <j...@iterativerose.com> wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years
>>> past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning
>>> behind the changes.
>>> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane.
>>> 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not
>>> crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
>>> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop of
>>> it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year
>>> with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing
>>> to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever
>>> getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core
>>> acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the
>>> conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be
>>> relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways.
>>> Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the
>>> conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example.
>>> Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
>>> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
>>> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't imagine
>>> what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes? Seconds? No
>>> clue.
>>> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha frenzy/shark
>>> attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core then we lose
>>> some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
>>> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for alumni
>>> of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open up
>>> registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this
>>> early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell them
>>> out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open the
>>> following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
>>> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
>>> Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're trying to
>>> do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this on our spare
>>> time.
>>> Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but not
>>> 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public
>>> registration.
>>> Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code. YOU MAY
>>> NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR TICKET OR YOU
>>> PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window)
>>> We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes. Non-Alumni who
>>> somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that ticket.
>>> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group registrations.
>>> We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration
>>> has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group
>>> registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the
>>> percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small
>>> number, well under 20% of total sales.)
>>> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past then I
>>> heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your
>>> organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can
>>> mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that,
>>> but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for
>>> everyone.
>>> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an effort
>>> to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of fuss.
>>> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it
>>> here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in
>>> public. Reach me at jim.hol...@codemash.org.
>>> Regards,
>>> Jim Holmes
>>> President, CodeMash Board of Directors
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There are lots of ideas and feedback floating around. Rather than respond individually I'm just going to branch off the root message here.
We knew some folks would be frustrated no matter what got implemented. We're not able to to make everyone happy about everything, so we're not even remotely trying to. Sorry. What we're trying to do is make it as level a playing field as possible while getting things implemented with a small group of volunteers.
I'm not going to respond individually to all the ideas, many of them good ones; however I do want to hit on one point: raising ticket prices high enough to drop the demand for tickets.
Cliff Notes Version: Hell no. [1]
Longer version: CodeMash remains, at its heart despite insane growth, a community-ish conference. Our goal has always been to provide kickass content that helps change how people view their work/craft/industry. Keeping prices really low ensures that we can still get attendees from organizations who can't afford DevConnections, TechEd, or other insanely priced conferences. We see an incredible mix of indies, college students, and newcomers to the industry. We're able to see these folks make amazing changes in their environments because of what they're taking back from the conference. The day we raise CodeMash ticket prices to $2,500 to cut demand for the conference is the day I pack my bags and head back to Alaska to live in the woods. [2]
I get that some folks wish the registration would run differently. Really, I do. I think we've got a pretty good system in place, all things considered.
Jim
[1] This version not approved by the other CodeMash Board members, CodeMash committee members, or my mom. Sorry, sometimes I don't self-filter well.
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:35:45 PM UTC-4, Jim Holmes wrote:
> Folks,
> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years > past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning > behind the changes.
> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane. > 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not > crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop of > it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year > with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing > to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever > getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core > acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the > conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be > relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways. > Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the > conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example. > Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't > imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes? > Seconds? No clue.
> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha > frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core > then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for > alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open > up registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this > early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell > them out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open > the following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
> - Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're > trying to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this > on our spare time. > - Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but > not 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public > registration. > - Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code. > YOU MAY NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR > TICKET OR YOU PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window) > - We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes. > Non-Alumni who somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that > ticket.
> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group registrations. > We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration > has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group > registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the > percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small > number, well under 20% of total sales.)
> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past then > I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your > organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can > mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that, > but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for > everyone.
> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an > effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of > fuss.
> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it > here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in > public. Reach me at jim.hol...@codemash.org.
> Regards,
> Jim Holmes > President, CodeMash Board of Directors
No matter what decision is/was made to increase "fairness" it can't
possibly be viewed as fair by everyone. I'm sure the board spent much time
and effort discussing the issues before coming up with this decision.
I'm sure there are different, more complex, ways that the board could come
up with so that some people view it as more fair, but other people will
find it less fair.
They're in a hard position--there's not much you can do when 1200 tickets
sell out in 22 minutes (other than celebrate the success).
My point is, there are clearly not enough tickets to go around, a debate on
what to do differently will drag on forever because there will always be
someone who will feel they're at better odds to not get a ticket.
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Jim Holmes <j...@iterativerose.com> wrote:
> Folks,
> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years
> past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning
> behind the changes.
> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane.
> 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not
> crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop of
> it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year
> with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing
> to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever
> getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core
> acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the
> conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be
> relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways.
> Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the
> conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example.
> Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't
> imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes?
> Seconds? No clue.
> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha
> frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core
> then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for
> alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open
> up registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this
> early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell
> them out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open
> the following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
> - Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're
> trying to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this
> on our spare time.
> - Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but
> not 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public
> registration.
> - Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code.
> YOU MAY NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR
> TICKET OR YOU PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window)
> - We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes.
> Non-Alumni who somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that
> ticket.
> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group registrations.
> We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration
> has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group
> registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the
> percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small
> number, well under 20% of total sales.)
> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past then
> I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your
> organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can
> mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that,
> but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for
> everyone.
> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an
> effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of
> fuss.
> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it
> here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in
> public. Reach me at jim.hol...@codemash.org.
> Regards,
> Jim Holmes
> President, CodeMash Board of Directors
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On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Tim Wilson <tim...@smarttypes.org> wrote:
> What are the constraining factors -- why the 1200 ticket ceiling ?
> Assuming we can't get past these constraints
> Maybe we can assume some % of no-shows in the model
> Another interesting option is limiting the # of tickets an individual
> can purchase (1 credit card / 1 ticket) ??
> Another obvious option (unpopular i assume) is increasing the price
> enough to lower demand
> It seems non-intuitive but maybe make the early-bird price more than
> the normal price -- and the procrastinator price cheaper still ??
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Jim Holmes <j...@iterativerose.com> wrote:
> > Folks,
> > Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years
> > past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the
> reasoning
> > behind the changes.
> > As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane.
> > 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's
> not
> > crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
> > It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop
> of
> > it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every
> year
> > with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up
> willing
> > to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever
> > getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core
> > acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the
> > conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be
> > relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways.
> > Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the
> > conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the
> example.
> > Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
> > That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
> > If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't
> imagine
> > what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes? Seconds?
> No
> > clue.
> > My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha
> frenzy/shark
> > attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core then we
> lose
> > some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
> > With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for
> alumni
> > of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open up
> > registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this
> > early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell
> them
> > out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open the
> > following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
> > Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
> > Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're trying
> to
> > do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this on our
> spare
> > time.
> > Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but not
> > 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public
> > registration.
> > Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code. YOU
> MAY
> > NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR TICKET OR
> YOU
> > PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window)
> > We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes. Non-Alumni
> who
> > somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that ticket.
> > One important additional piece: We're doing away with group
> registrations.
> > We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration
> > has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group
> > registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the
> > percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small
> > number, well under 20% of total sales.)
> > If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past
> then I
> > heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your
> > organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can
> > mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about
> that,
> > but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for
> > everyone.
> > This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an
> effort
> > to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of fuss.
> > As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it
> > here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in
> > public. Reach me at jim.hol...@codemash.org.
> > Regards,
> > Jim Holmes
> > President, CodeMash Board of Directors
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> Let's make it like Hunger Games, where you get a chance in the lottery
> for every year you've previously attended, and maybe extra chances if
> you were a speaker or volunteer or what-have-you... if you've never
> attended before, you just get 1 chance.
> #notreally
> Steve
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Michael Eaton <mjea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It's interesting, if not a bit annoying, that people seem to think the
> > Codemash planners didn't work through *all* of these ideas and more
> > before they came up with their current plan.
> > There are some things we just have to live with. Nothing says anyone
> > *must* go to Codemash. There *are* plenty of other conferences in the
> > region (devlink, codestock, that conference, MADExpo). Yea, Codemash
> > is awesome, but life will go on for those that can't get tickets this
> > year, right?
> > In the end, it is what it is and we all have to deal with it.
> > mike
> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Tim Wilson <tim...@smarttypes.org>
> wrote:
> >> What are the constraining factors -- why the 1200 ticket ceiling ?
> >> Assuming we can't get past these constraints
> >> Maybe we can assume some % of no-shows in the model
> >> Another interesting option is limiting the # of tickets an individual
> >> can purchase (1 credit card / 1 ticket) ??
> >> Another obvious option (unpopular i assume) is increasing the price
> >> enough to lower demand
> >> It seems non-intuitive but maybe make the early-bird price more than
> >> the normal price -- and the procrastinator price cheaper still ??
> >> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Jim Holmes <j...@iterativerose.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Folks,
> >>> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years
> >>> past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the
> reasoning
> >>> behind the changes.
> >>> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown
> insane.
> >>> 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well,
> it's not
> >>> crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
> >>> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last
> drop of
> >>> it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every
> year
> >>> with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up
> willing
> >>> to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever
> >>> getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core
> >>> acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the
> >>> conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be
> >>> relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways.
> >>> Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the
> >>> conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the
> example.
> >>> Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
> >>> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
> >>> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't
> imagine
> >>> what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes?
> Seconds? No
> >>> clue.
> >>> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha
> frenzy/shark
> >>> attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core then we
> lose
> >>> some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
> >>> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for
> alumni
> >>> of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open up
> >>> registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this
> >>> early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't
> sell them
> >>> out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open
> the
> >>> following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
> >>> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
> >>> Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're
> trying to
> >>> do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this on our
> spare
> >>> time.
> >>> Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but not
> >>> 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public
> >>> registration.
> >>> Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code. YOU
> MAY
> >>> NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR TICKET
> OR YOU
> >>> PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window)
> >>> We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes. Non-Alumni
> who
> >>> somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that ticket.
> >>> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group
> registrations.
> >>> We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash
> registration
> >>> has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group
> >>> registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the
> >>> percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively
> small
> >>> number, well under 20% of total sales.)
> >>> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past
> then I
> >>> heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your
> >>> organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that
> can
> >>> mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about
> that,
> >>> but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for
> >>> everyone.
> >>> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an
> effort
> >>> to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of
> fuss.
> >>> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do
> it
> >>> here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in
> >>> public. Reach me at jim.hol...@codemash.org.
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Jim Holmes
> >>> President, CodeMash Board of Directors
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I typically just observe these discussions but have to chime in on this one. As a first-time attendee in 2012 this is great for me (although let's be real, there's still going to be a flurry within the alumni pool) but I see where the folks who missed out in 2012 are coming from. Passionate responses by the folks here are simply a testament to what a great job you the organizers do in setting up this event. There is an over-abundance of mediocrity in our industry and CodeMash is like coming up for air.
I don't wish to trade spots with any of the organizers as they weigh the options of growing the conference vs. having to set a limit that ends up excluding people that can benefit from the content, or raising ticket prices to limit demand vs. keeping them amazingly affordable so that it's difficult to justify not attending (even if your employer won't support you). Every decision I have observed out of this group has been at the aim and result of continually making CodeMash the best conference of its kind, period. My hat is off to you.
On Sep 19, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Jim Holmes <j...@iterativerose.com> wrote:
> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning behind the changes.
> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane. 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop of it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways. Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example. Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes? Seconds? No clue.
> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open up registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell them out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open the following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
> Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're trying to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this on our spare time.
> Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but not 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public registration.
> Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code. YOU MAY NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR TICKET OR YOU PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window)
> We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes. Non-Alumni who somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that ticket.
> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group registrations. We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small number, well under 20% of total sales.)
> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past then I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that, but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for everyone.
> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of fuss.
> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in public. Reach me at jim.hol...@codemash.org.
> Regards,
> Jim Holmes
> President, CodeMash Board of Directors
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Thanks for keeping the prices low. I have enjoyed CodeMash in the past and really look forward to coming again to expand and blow out my mind with all that I'm going to learn.
I now work for a company that can pay the insane prices from time to time, but I've been in positions where the idea of paying $2,000 for a ticket to a conference was laughable. Having a reasonable price for CodeMash and hosting it at a place where a room can be reserved for $88 makes a huge difference is many people being able to afford to come. (Yes, many of the crazy expensive conferences can be at hotels where the cheap rooms are $200+ a night)
Yes, having a reasonably priced (cheap) conference increases demand. But I second what Steven said before - as long as you're sitting at your computer when registration opens, you can get a ticket. Show up an hour later, and you won't. Well, unless things sell out in a matter of seconds...
On Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:52:50 AM UTC-4, Jim Holmes wrote:
> There are lots of ideas and feedback floating around. Rather than respond > individually I'm just going to branch off the root message here.
> We knew some folks would be frustrated no matter what got implemented. > We're not able to to make everyone happy about everything, so we're not > even remotely trying to. Sorry. What we're trying to do is make it as level > a playing field as possible while getting things implemented with a small > group of volunteers.
> I'm not going to respond individually to all the ideas, many of them good > ones; however I do want to hit on one point: raising ticket prices high > enough to drop the demand for tickets.
> Cliff Notes Version: Hell no. [1]
> Longer version: CodeMash remains, at its heart despite insane growth, a > community-ish conference. Our goal has always been to provide kickass > content that helps change how people view their work/craft/industry. > Keeping prices really low ensures that we can still get attendees from > organizations who can't afford DevConnections, TechEd, or other insanely > priced conferences. We see an incredible mix of indies, college students, > and newcomers to the industry. We're able to see these folks make amazing > changes in their environments because of what they're taking back from the > conference. The day we raise CodeMash ticket prices to $2,500 to cut demand > for the conference is the day I pack my bags and head back to Alaska to > live in the woods. [2]
> I get that some folks wish the registration would run differently. Really, > I do. I think we've got a pretty good system in place, all things > considered.
> Jim
> [1] This version not approved by the other CodeMash Board members, > CodeMash committee members, or my mom. Sorry, sometimes I don't self-filter > well.
> [2] Neither was this version.
> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:35:45 PM UTC-4, Jim Holmes wrote:
>> Folks,
>> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years >> past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning >> behind the changes.
>> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane. >> 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not >> crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
>> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop >> of it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every >> year with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up >> willing to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without >> ever getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That >> core acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the >> conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be >> relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways. >> Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the >> conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example. >> Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
>> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
>> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't >> imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes? >> Seconds? No clue.
>> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha >> frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core >> then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
>> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for >> alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open >> up registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this >> early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell >> them out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open >> the following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
>> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
>> - Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're >> trying to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this >> on our spare time. >> - Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but >> not 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public >> registration. >> - Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code. >> YOU MAY NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR >> TICKET OR YOU PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window) >> - We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes. >> Non-Alumni who somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that >> ticket.
>> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group >> registrations. We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash >> registration has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping >> group registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: >> the percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively >> small number, well under 20% of total sales.)
>> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past >> then I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with >> your organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that >> can mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about >> that, but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for >> everyone.
>> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an >> effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of >> fuss.
>> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it >> here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in >> public. Reach me at jim.h...@codemash.org <javascript:>.
>> Regards,
>> Jim Holmes >> President, CodeMash Board of Directors
I would assume that the alumni list is going to receive an email about the changes prior to them occurring and that when this email goes out it will be discussed on this list. If you don't receive the email, then I would contact Jim or whoever he designates.
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From: "David Nolf" <davidn...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:21 AM
To: codemash@googlegroups.com
Subject: [CodeMash] Re: Registration Info for CodeMash 2013
Jim,
Last year two of us from were at a RavenDB training a couple days before codemash at the Kalahari and were able to buy/transfer a couple codemash tickets with the precompiler from someone that was unable to attend the event.
Since we attended the event, how can I confirm that we are infact in the alumni.
Thanks,
Dave
On Wednesday, 19 September 2012 21:35:45 UTC-4, Jim Holmes wrote:
> Folks,
> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years
past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning behind the changes.
> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane.
1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop
of it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways. Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example. Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't
imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes? Seconds? No clue.
> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha
frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for
alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open up registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell them out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open the following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
> Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're trying
to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this on our spare time.
> Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but not
2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public registration.Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code. YOU MAY NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR TICKET OR YOU PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window)We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes. Non-Alumni who somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that ticket.
> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group
registrations. We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small number, well under 20% of total sales.)
> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past
then I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that, but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for everyone.
> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an
effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of fuss.
> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it
here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in public. Reach me at jim.h...@codemash.org.
> Regards,
> Jim Holmes
> President, CodeMash Board of Directors
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Sounds to me like it is time for some grass roots movement to get CodeMash fired up in a couple other areas of the country throughout the year to ease the crush. I sense we're all challenged for conferences that don't break the bank yet provide quality speakers and allow us to network (which often times is the best part next to bacon). We have a crew of people here in Montana that would be willing to fire up a conference in our beautiful state if we could get quality speakers and give devs a chance to breathe some mountain air. Sometimes bigger is not better. But running satellites throughout the year spreads the work of doing confs and allows regional travel as well which keeps the cost down. Toss it around at your next board meeting, Jim, and keep up the great work. You are blazing trail for us all.
On Wednesday, 19 September 2012 19:35:45 UTC-6, Jim Holmes wrote:
> Folks,
> Registration for CodeMash 2013 will run a bit differently than in years > past. I wanted to take time to share some details and some of the reasoning > behind the changes.
> As you're likely aware, the demand for CodeMash tickets has grown insane. > 1300 tickets for 2012 sold out in 22 minutes. That's crazy! (Well, it's not > crazy, it's an indicator of how awesometastic our community is!)
> It's my firm belief that CodeMash owes all its success, every last drop of > it, to a core group of attendees and speakers who've come along every year > with an amazing outlook. This core started out in v0 and showed up willing > to have frank, open discussions on a wide range of things without ever > getting heated, disrespectful, or digressing into flame wars. That core > acted as role models for newcomers every following year, and as the > conference grew, so did that core. That wonderful core could always be > relied on for setting the tone in sessions, keynotes, and the hallways. > Newcomers saw how passionate folks were, and how the > conversations/interactions were carried out, and they followed the example. > Those newcomers became part of the expanding core each following year.
> That core is what's made CodeMash so awesome. Well, that and the bacon.
> If last year's registration was blown through in 22 minutes, I can't > imagine what registration would be like for 2013. Single-digit minutes? > Seconds? No clue.
> My biggest concern is losing that core of folks in the piranha > frenzy/shark attack that registration may turn in to. If we lose that core > then we lose some of the special tone that makes CodeMash so wonderful.
> With that in mind, we'll be having a special registration window for > alumni of CodeMash 2012. If you attended or spoke in 2012 then we'll open > up registration a week early. HOWEVER, we'll have only 700 tickets in this > early window. Alumni get first crack at those tickets. If we don't sell > them out, then leftovers will roll in to the "public" pool that will open > the following week where we'll sell the additional 500 tickets.
> Here are some ground rules about the Alumni pool:
> - Please, don't be a jackass. Keep in mind the spirit of what we're > trying to do here, and also keep in mind that we're volunteers doing this > on our spare time. > - Alumni means CodeMash 2012. If you attended earlier CodeMashes, but > not 2012, then sorry, but you'll have to wait for the general public > registration. > - Alumni will get an email with a special, personalized access code. > YOU MAY NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE ELSE. YOU USE THIS TO BUY YOUR > TICKET OR YOU PASS FOR THIS YEAR. (Or go buy one in the public window) > - We'll validate all purchases once the Alumni window closes. > Non-Alumni who somehow made it in will be refunded their cash and lose that > ticket.
> One important additional piece: We're doing away with group registrations. > We know this impacts a number of organizations, but CodeMash registration > has turned into somewhat of a raffle/lottery system. Dropping group > registrations levels the playing field for everyone. (To be clear: the > percentage of tickets sold to group registrations was a relatively small > number, well under 20% of total sales.)
> If you are in an organization that's used group purchases in the past then > I heartily recommend you start clarifying purchasing policies with your > organization. Right now. You'll need to buy your own ticket, and that can > mean dealing with reimbursements and other workflows. I'm sorry about that, > but again, we're trying to do our best to make it a level field for > everyone.
> This is a lot of info to digest. Hopefully you'll agree that it's an > effort to do as best as possible to meet a crazy demand with a minimum of > fuss.
> As always, please feel free to ping me with questions or feedback. Do it > here in the Group, or via e-mail if you're uncomfortable conversing in > public. Reach me at jim.h...@codemash.org <javascript:>.
> Regards,
> Jim Holmes > President, CodeMash Board of Directors
