Hi planners, has any registration date for C4L13 been determined / announced? I apologize if I missed it, not seeing it on either mailing list or the website. If not, please do announce it a few weeks in advance so people can set alarms / hire reminder services / clear schedules etc. Last year I was 3 hours late...
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Maccabee Levine <levi...@uwosh.edu> wrote:
> Hi planners, has any registration date for C4L13 been determined /
> announced? I apologize if I missed it, not seeing it on either mailing list
> or the website. If not, please do announce it a few weeks in advance so
> people can set alarms / hire reminder services / clear schedules etc. Last
> year I was 3 hours late...
Nope. We are still shooting for *after US Thanksgiving*
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> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Francis Kayiwa <francis.kay...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Nope. We are still shooting for *after US Thanksgiving*
> And registration has typically been announced 2-3 weeks in advance, hasn't
> it? I would expect the same this year.
> -Mike
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On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Andrew Darby <darby.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For those of us who have to request funding way in advance, do we have
> any ballpark figures on the registration and hotel nightly rates?
No more than $160 for the conference and exactly $115/night for the hotel.
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> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Andrew Darby <darby.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> For those of us who have to request funding way in advance, do we have
>> any ballpark figures on the registration and hotel nightly rates?
> No more than $160 for the conference and exactly $115/night for the hotel.
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On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:57:57 AM UTC-5, Michael J. Giarlo wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Francis Kayiwa <francis...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote:
>> Nope. We are still shooting for *after US Thanksgiving*
> And registration has typically been announced 2-3 weeks in advance, hasn't > it? I would expect the same this year.
Any idea when the registration date/time will be? I will be out of the country for two weeks in November and would like to try and plan on registering before the conference sells out.
On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:08:40 PM UTC-6, Maccabee Levine wrote:
> Hi planners, has any registration date for C4L13 been determined / > announced? I apologize if I missed it, not seeing it on either mailing > list or the website. If not, please do announce it a few weeks in advance > so people can set alarms / hire reminder services / clear schedules etc. > Last year I was 3 hours late...
> Any idea when the registration date/time will be? I will be out of the country for two weeks in November and would like to try and plan on registering before the conference sells out.
> Thanks,
> Brian
> On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:08:40 PM UTC-6, Maccabee Levine wrote:
> Hi planners, has any registration date for C4L13 been determined / announced? I apologize if I missed it, not seeing it on either mailing list or the website. If not, please do announce it a few weeks in advance so people can set alarms / hire reminder services / clear schedules etc. Last year I was 3 hours late...
> Thanks,
> Maccabee
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On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:36:04 PM UTC-5, Brian McBride wrote:
> Any idea when the registration date/time will be? I will be out of the > country for two weeks in November and would like to try and plan on > registering before the conference sells out.
> Thanks,
> Brian
> On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:08:40 PM UTC-6, Maccabee Levine wrote:
>> Hi planners, has any registration date for C4L13 been determined / >> announced? I apologize if I missed it, not seeing it on either mailing >> list or the website. If not, please do announce it a few weeks in advance >> so people can set alarms / hire reminder services / clear schedules etc. >> Last year I was 3 hours late...
Also, wasn't there some talk of breaking up the land grab into three separate sessions for those who won't be near a computer tomorrow at registration time?
Thanks again, Becky (being difficult this afternoon)
On Monday, November 26, 2012 3:57:37 PM UTC-6, Becky Yoose wrote:
> Bump.
> It's after Thanksgiving. When should we start camping out by our computers?
> On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:36:04 PM UTC-5, Brian McBride wrote:
>> Any idea when the registration date/time will be? I will be out of the >> country for two weeks in November and would like to try and plan on >> registering before the conference sells out.
>> Thanks,
>> Brian
>> On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:08:40 PM UTC-6, Maccabee Levine wrote:
>>> Hi planners, has any registration date for C4L13 been determined / >>> announced? I apologize if I missed it, not seeing it on either mailing >>> list or the website. If not, please do announce it a few weeks in advance >>> so people can set alarms / hire reminder services / clear schedules etc. >>> Last year I was 3 hours late...
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Becky Yoose <b.yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tomorrow?!
> Also, wasn't there some talk of breaking up the land grab into three
> separate sessions for those who won't be near a computer tomorrow at
> registration time?
Looking forward to your proposal to do just that for 2014. (Not being difficult)
I hope you're joking. PLEASE give everyone advance warning of registration date. Like at least a week, if not two weeks. People are going to be really mad if you open up registration without giving everyone advance warning, because of how quickly registration fills up.
Unless you consider previous vague announcements "sometime after thanksgiving" to have been advance warning?
I dont' think it should be that hard just to give us an exact date or time, at least a week (preferably two weeks) in advance of that date and time.
> Also, wasn't there some talk of breaking up the land grab into three
> separate sessions for those who won't be near a computer tomorrow at
> registration time?
> Thanks again,
> Becky (being difficult this afternoon)
> On Monday, November 26, 2012 3:57:37 PM UTC-6, Becky Yoose wrote:
> Bump.
> It's after Thanksgiving. When should we start camping out by our
> computers?
> On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:36:04 PM UTC-5, Brian McBride wrote:
> Any idea when the registration date/time will be? I will be out
> of the country for two weeks in November and would like to try
> and plan on registering before the conference sells out.
> Thanks,
> Brian
> On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:08:40 PM UTC-6, Maccabee Levine
> wrote:
> Hi planners, has any registration date for C4L13 been
> determined / announced? I apologize if I missed it, not
> seeing it on either mailing list or the website. If not,
> please do announce it a few weeks in advance so people can
> set alarms / hire reminder services / clear schedules etc.
> Last year I was 3 hours late...
> Thanks,
> Maccabee
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No I am not joking. Yes it is tomorrow. I wish I could have done
better. No *really* I do. I am extremely reluctant to kill it given
the resources I had to harness to make it be tomorrow. Actually I
can't to be honest.
If I can be clued in on what a week buys us I am happy to kill it.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Jonathan Rochkind <rochk...@jhu.edu> wrote:
> On 11/26/2012 5:09 PM, Becky Yoose wrote:
>> Tomorrow?!
> I hope you're joking. PLEASE give everyone advance warning of registration
> date. Like at least a week, if not two weeks. People are going to be really
> mad if you open up registration without giving everyone advance warning,
> because of how quickly registration fills up.
> Unless you consider previous vague announcements "sometime after
> thanksgiving" to have been advance warning?
> I dont' think it should be that hard just to give us an exact date or time,
> at least a week (preferably two weeks) in advance of that date and time.
>> Also, wasn't there some talk of breaking up the land grab into three
>> separate sessions for those who won't be near a computer tomorrow at
>> registration time?
>> Thanks again,
>> Becky (being difficult this afternoon)
>> On Monday, November 26, 2012 3:57:37 PM UTC-6, Becky Yoose wrote:
>> Bump.
>> It's after Thanksgiving. When should we start camping out by our
>> computers?
>> On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:36:04 PM UTC-5, Brian McBride wrote:
>> Any idea when the registration date/time will be? I will be out
>> of the country for two weeks in November and would like to try
>> and plan on registering before the conference sells out.
>> Thanks,
>> Brian
>> On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:08:40 PM UTC-6, Maccabee Levine
>> wrote:
>> Hi planners, has any registration date for C4L13 been
>> determined / announced? I apologize if I missed it, not
>> seeing it on either mailing list or the website. If not,
>> please do announce it a few weeks in advance so people can
>> set alarms / hire reminder services / clear schedules etc.
>> Last year I was 3 hours late...
>> Thanks,
>> Maccabee
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Point taken, though I can't remember if it was someone on the conference committee suggested it for this year or if it was discussed in the main c4l listserv. I'm still trying to track that reference down, but I might just leave it at that.
I'm a bit less panicked now that I know that there's a higher cap of 400.
On Monday, November 26, 2012 4:10:57 PM UTC-6, Francis Kayiwa wrote:
> > Also, wasn't there some talk of breaking up the land grab into three > > separate sessions for those who won't be near a computer tomorrow at > > registration time?
> Looking forward to your proposal to do just that for 2014. (Not being > difficult)
(1) A completed schedule
(2) Clarity about pre-conferences
(3) Consistency with conference expectations - that people have a chance to
slate the time into their schedule to register. This has been done
previously by having a long lead time (1-2 week) pre-announcement of the
registration date. And maybe one year by having multiple time slots.
-Jodi
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Francis Kayiwa
<francis.kay...@gmail.com>wrote:
> No I am not joking. Yes it is tomorrow. I wish I could have done
> better. No *really* I do. I am extremely reluctant to kill it given
> the resources I had to harness to make it be tomorrow. Actually I
> can't to be honest.
> If I can be clued in on what a week buys us I am happy to kill it.
> ./fxk
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Jonathan Rochkind <rochk...@jhu.edu>
> wrote:
> > On 11/26/2012 5:09 PM, Becky Yoose wrote:
> >> Tomorrow?!
> > I hope you're joking. PLEASE give everyone advance warning of
> registration
> > date. Like at least a week, if not two weeks. People are going to be
> really
> > mad if you open up registration without giving everyone advance warning,
> > because of how quickly registration fills up.
> > Unless you consider previous vague announcements "sometime after
> > thanksgiving" to have been advance warning?
> > I dont' think it should be that hard just to give us an exact date or
> time,
> > at least a week (preferably two weeks) in advance of that date and time.
> >> Also, wasn't there some talk of breaking up the land grab into three
> >> separate sessions for those who won't be near a computer tomorrow at
> >> registration time?
> >> On Monday, November 26, 2012 3:57:37 PM UTC-6, Becky Yoose wrote:
> >> Bump.
> >> It's after Thanksgiving. When should we start camping out by our
> >> computers?
> >> On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:36:04 PM UTC-5, Brian McBride wrote:
> >> Any idea when the registration date/time will be? I will be out
> >> of the country for two weeks in November and would like to try
> >> and plan on registering before the conference sells out.
> >> Thanks,
> >> Brian
> >> On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:08:40 PM UTC-6, Maccabee Levine
> >> wrote:
> >> Hi planners, has any registration date for C4L13 been
> >> determined / announced? I apologize if I missed it, not
> >> seeing it on either mailing list or the website. If not,
> >> please do announce it a few weeks in advance so people can
> >> set alarms / hire reminder services / clear schedules etc.
> >> Last year I was 3 hours late...
> >> Thanks,
> >> Maccabee
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On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Jodi Schneider <jschnei...@pobox.com> wrote:
> A week buys us:
> (1) A completed schedule
http://vote.code4lib.org/election/results/24 (Those will be the
prepared talks) posted to code4lib@ Where those will fit is still to
be determined. I'm not on the Planning (deliberately)
> (2) Clarity about pre-conferences
Also on the c4lwiki and I will be polishing that up tonight
> (3) Consistency with conference expectations - that people have a chance to
> slate the time into their schedule to register. This has been done
> previously by having a long lead time (1-2 week) pre-announcement of the
> registration date. And maybe one year by having multiple time slots.
I'm not following you here. Consistency with *other* conferences?
Other code4libs conferences? Please expand on this.
Great to hear that the talks and pre-conferences are coming.
The rest is consistency with previous years, after some trauma when
registration sold out in a day. The community hasn't done a good enough job
of communicating that, obviously -- so I think if it's important, we might
want to add it to the host requirements. I don't think we realized how hard
that is for hosts and obviously it's great that you're pulling everything
together!
-Jodi
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Francis Kayiwa
<francis.kay...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Jodi Schneider <jschnei...@pobox.com>
> wrote:
> > A week buys us:
> > (1) A completed schedule
> http://vote.code4lib.org/election/results/24 (Those will be the
> prepared talks) posted to code4lib@ Where those will fit is still to
> be determined. I'm not on the Planning (deliberately)
> > (2) Clarity about pre-conferences
> Also on the c4lwiki and I will be polishing that up tonight
> > (3) Consistency with conference expectations - that people have a chance
> to
> > slate the time into their schedule to register. This has been done
> > previously by having a long lead time (1-2 week) pre-announcement of the
> > registration date. And maybe one year by having multiple time slots.
> I'm not following you here. Consistency with *other* conferences?
> Other code4libs conferences? Please expand on this.
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First, very, very grateful to you all for the hard work you've in
preparation for this year's Code4Lib. Chicago stepped up to the
plate. If registration ends up having to be tomorrow, I'll live with
it. I'll give some arguments in favor of delaying it.They're not as
graceful/well-thought out as they could be, because I want to finish
them before leaving work ;).
I know there has been criticism in years past that code4lib is
exclusionary. We've fought against it, but there's probably some
truth to it. There are tendencies that many current regulars may not
even be aware of.
I've heard complaints about lack of lead time affects those with
institutions with more time needed for filing requests and the like.
It also is harder on people who are in institutions where they don't
fully control their own time (perhaps part time tech and part time
desk person, or have a lot of meetings, or may have a lot of
commitments) and need to be able to plan a chunk of time to sign up
for this fast filling up conference. It's also hard for those who
travel frequently to have a short window of notice.
There's also the slight issue that you announced at 4:00pm central. I
was able to notice this before I left work and sent in an email to my
boss saying I might have to skip a meeting tomorrow for my usual "sit
in front of the keyboard and pray". Folks on the east coast may well
be sitting at home at dinner right now and may not notice this until
tomorrow morning. Unless, of course, they're in the more limited
social circles of the IRC list, which already has the topic changed or
know other people who will contact them to let them know sooner.
Depending on work schedules (say, someone who works weekends and takes
Monday/Tuesday off) they may not even be connecting to a computer.
These might help re-enforce the image that there's a core group as
people with flexible schedules and flexible budgets/procedures will be
able to quickly arrange stuff to get in to register while those who
aren't don't get in, leading to some of the same faces over and over.
(I must admit I'm ambiguous with how I feel with some of the charges
of the difficulty of registrations in the past being exclusionary, but
I can recognize that there have been folks who feel that way.)
My hope is the 400 cap will alleviate a lot of the stresses of the
system so perhaps this is worry about nothing.
I'm really trying not to come across as judgmental. I think till we
can get some sort of better organization/group/committee that can work
on this, it's going to be really hard on the hosts to pull everything
off perfectly.
Jon Gorman - who has been mulling over these issues without any great
answers himself, but might be able to do a lightning talk or blog post
at some eventual point...
<francis.kay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No I am not joking. Yes it is tomorrow. I wish I could have done
> better. No *really* I do. I am extremely reluctant to kill it given
> the resources I had to harness to make it be tomorrow. Actually I
> can't to be honest.
> If I can be clued in on what a week buys us I am happy to kill it.
> ./fxk
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Jonathan Rochkind <rochk...@jhu.edu> wrote:
>> On 11/26/2012 5:09 PM, Becky Yoose wrote:
>>> Tomorrow?!
>> I hope you're joking. PLEASE give everyone advance warning of registration
>> date. Like at least a week, if not two weeks. People are going to be really
>> mad if you open up registration without giving everyone advance warning,
>> because of how quickly registration fills up.
>> Unless you consider previous vague announcements "sometime after
>> thanksgiving" to have been advance warning?
>> I dont' think it should be that hard just to give us an exact date or time,
>> at least a week (preferably two weeks) in advance of that date and time.
>>> Also, wasn't there some talk of breaking up the land grab into three
>>> separate sessions for those who won't be near a computer tomorrow at
>>> registration time?
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Becky (being difficult this afternoon)
>>> On Monday, November 26, 2012 3:57:37 PM UTC-6, Becky Yoose wrote:
>>> Bump.
>>> It's after Thanksgiving. When should we start camping out by our
>>> computers?
>>> On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:36:04 PM UTC-5, Brian McBride wrote:
>>> Any idea when the registration date/time will be? I will be out
>>> of the country for two weeks in November and would like to try
>>> and plan on registering before the conference sells out.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brian
>>> On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:08:40 PM UTC-6, Maccabee Levine
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi planners, has any registration date for C4L13 been
>>> determined / announced? I apologize if I missed it, not
>>> seeing it on either mailing list or the website. If not,
>>> please do announce it a few weeks in advance so people can
>>> set alarms / hire reminder services / clear schedules etc.
>>> Last year I was 3 hours late...
>>> Thanks,
>>> Maccabee
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Before I venture into this discussion, let me say that I wholeheartedly agree with Jon Gorman: you and the other organizers have done a *ton* of work, for which I am sincerely grateful; Chicago *did* step up to the plate, big time; and having a 400 attendee cap will take some (a lot?) of the pressure off. I'm not advocating for changing the registration date. I sympathize with the fact that judgment calls have to be made.
> > (3) Consistency with conference expectations [...] This has been done
> > previously by having a long lead time (1-2 week) pre-announcement of the
> > registration date. [...]
> I'm not following you here. Consistency with *other* conferences?
> Other code4libs conferences? Please expand on this.
However, so that we have some actual data to answer the questions above, I searched the archives and determined that over the last five Code4lib conferences, the lead time of announcing when registration would start varied from 5 days to 4 weeks, with 7 days being fairly typical:
Code4lib 2012: 4 weeks lead time [1]
Code4lib 2011: 5 days lead time [2]
Code4lib 2010: 7 days lead time [3]
Code4lib 2009: 7 days lead time [4]
Code4lib 2008: 7 days lead time [5]
-- Michael
[1]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4...@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Anjanette Young
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:53 AM
> To: CODE4...@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Registration heads-up.
> Registration for Code4Lib 2012 will open Wednesday, November 16th at 8am
> (PST).
[2]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4...@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
> McDonald, Robert H.
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:01 AM
> To: CODE4...@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Registration for Code4Lib 2011 Opens Monday Dec
> 13, 2010
> I am aiming for 9am.
> [redacted]
> > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:42 AM, McDonald, Robert H.
> > <rhmcd...@indiana.edu> wrote:
> > As mentioned here on Monday, Code4lib 2011 Conference Registration will open on on Monday Dec 13, 2010.
[3]
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Kevin S. Clarke
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:52 AM
> To: code4libcon@googlegroups.com; Code for Libraries
> Subject: Registration for Code4Lib2010 Opens Wed. 12/16/2009
> Hi all,
> Just writing to let everyone know that registration for Code4Lib2010
> (in Asheville) will open at 1pm on Wed., December 16th, 2009.
[4]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4...@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Birkin James Diana
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:40 AM
> To: CODE4...@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: [CODE4LIB] code4lib 2009 conference registration announcement
> We're still working out a few details with the credit-card vendor, but
> we expect to open registration for the 2009 code4lib conference on
> Wednesday, December 17, 12:00 noon, EST. (U.S.)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4...@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Jeremy Frumkin
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:17 AM
> To: CODE4...@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: [CODE4LIB] Registration for Code4lib 2008 opens January 7
> Registration for the 2008 Code4lib conference will open Monday, January
> 7, at 10 am PST (1 pm EST).
