Coco-diesel in power generation

[Marco]

Good evening everybody, i was looking for studies on coco-diesel and
its use in power generation.
Is anyone in the business or can address me to publications and data
on the subject?

Thank you very much,
Marco

[Conan]

Hi Marco -

There are various publications on this topic depending on what you are
interested in. This is the World Bank publication on small scale
milling. Are you looking at this scale or something larger?

http://siteresources.worldbank.org/EXTEAPASTAE/Resources/Coconut-oil-Power-gen_How-to-guide-for-small-stationary-engines-Feb-10.pdf

I am involved with research in this space so if you want to discuss it
further I'd be happy to.

Regards

Conan

[Marco]

Dear Conan,
thank you for your answer!
Actually i was posting for an indian developer which is building an
interesting plant for the procuction of activated carbon which
produces extra heat which can be used for different purposes (even
coco diesel conversion)
I sent him your contacts and he will probably contact you to discuss
the matter!
Obviously i will also be interested giving the fact that my company is
in the coconut business and will shortly begin to cultivate 7000
hectares of farming land with coconut trees.

Thank you again!

On 25 Apr, 06:23, Conan <ulyssesthebarbar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Marco -
>
> There are various publications on this topic depending on what you are
> interested in. This is the World Bank publication on small scale
> milling. Are you looking at this scale or something larger?
>

> http://siteresources.worldbank.org/EXTEAPASTAE/Resources/Coconut-oil-...

[Vinay Chand]

Marco,

 

which country are you in? Two years ago I undertook a pre-feasibility in the Dominican Republic for an energy self sufficient integrated coconut plant. I have used the lessons learnt in the feasibility study just completed for the Pacific for the EU and one of the interesting small projects recommended would use the waste heat from shell charcoal production to dry copra and the oil as a diesel additive.

 

There is also an activated carbon plant recommended for Vanuatu where they already have a coconut oil power plant servicing a large village in Santo. The margins are tight for activated carbon and any additional income stream would help. However, much depends on the quality of production since any deviation from the best quality from existing plants would render it unviable.

 

I am interested in what Conan has to say about the energy from the activated carbon plant which could certainly be used within the system.

 

The conclusions I have drawn are that the coconut oil energy plant certainly is proven viable and operated for some years now without problems; the small charcoal units would have a number of income streams including the charcoal itself, energy, copra drying and thus coco diesel and water purification. The concept looks viable and I hope it gets implemented. It could be replicated on remote islands throughout the Pacific because freight costs make diesel very expensive and there are ample coconuts not being used commercially.

 

Best wishes,

 

Vinay Chand,
230, Finchley Road,
London NW36DJ,UK
Tel:020-77945977
Fax: 020-7431 5715
www.ruraldevelopment.info

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[Marco]

Dear Vinay,
i am from Italy. I work in an agri-food company which is the major
shareholder of two companies which produce coconut oil both in Ivory
Coast and Mozambique.
I contacted the engineer Raja Rajan because i learnt about his project
of an integrated machine for both the production of activated carbon
and copra drying. We have a sister company which is in the water
treatment and they make a big use of activated carbon so the
technology is of our great interest.
Recently, Mr. Rajan told me about his project to use the eccess heat
for additional applications, such as coco diesel conversion, so i'm
helping out in his mission.
I'm really looking forward for the test of his technology (which
should happen next month), because one of our two factories is still
missing a copra drying line (we recently shipped a traditional copra
drying plant from Italy to one of the two factories, and it would be
really interesting to implement one of these new integrated plants in
the other factory, so that we can also start the production of
activated carbon and see which other opportunities it can bring).
It would be really nice if you, Conan and Raja could share knowledge
and discuss the matter in this thread, it will benefit all of us.
I will invite Raja to join the group so all the information will be
easily available to everybody (if eveyone agrees, ofc)

Warm regards,
Eng. Marco Grande
SOGEIN Srl - Italy
www.sogein.com
m.gr...@sogein.com

On 26 Apr, 10:34, "Vinay Chand" <vinaych...@msn.com> wrote:
> Marco,
>
> which country are you in? Two years ago I undertook a pre-feasibility in the Dominican Republic for an energy self sufficient integrated coconut plant. I have used the lessons learnt in the feasibility study just completed for the Pacific for the EU and one of the interesting small projects recommended would use the waste heat from shell charcoal production to dry copra and the oil as a diesel additive.
>
> There is also an activated carbon plant recommended for Vanuatu where they already have a coconut oil power plant servicing a large village in Santo. The margins are tight for activated carbon and any additional income stream would help. However, much depends on the quality of production since any deviation from the best quality from existing plants would render it unviable.
>
> I am interested in what Conan has to say about the energy from the activated carbon plant which could certainly be used within the system.
>
> The conclusions I have drawn are that the coconut oil energy plant certainly is proven viable and operated for some years now without problems; the small charcoal units would have a number of income streams including the charcoal itself, energy, copra drying and thus coco diesel and water purification. The concept looks viable and I hope it gets implemented. It could be replicated on remote islands throughout the Pacific because freight costs make diesel very expensive and there are ample coconuts not being used commercially.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Vinay Chand,
> 230, Finchley Road,
> London NW36DJ,UK
> Tel:020-77945977

> Fax: 020-7431 5715www.ruraldevelopment.info<http://www.ruraldevelopment.info/>

>
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>
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Marco<mailto:marko.gra...@gmail.com>
>   To: Coconut<mailto:coc...@googlegroups.com>
>   Sent: 26 April 2012 09:50
>   Subject: [Coconut:5031] Re: Coco-diesel in power generation
>
>   Dear Conan,
>   thank you for your answer!
>   Actually i was posting for an indian developer which is building an
>   interesting plant for the procuction of activated carbon which
>   produces extra heat which can be used for different purposes (even
>   coco diesel conversion)
>   I sent him your contacts and he will probably contact you to discuss
>   the matter!
>   Obviously i will also be interested giving the fact that my company is
>   in the coconut business and will shortly begin to cultivate 7000
>   hectares of farming land with coconut trees.
>
>   Thank you again!
>

>   On 25 Apr, 06:23, Conan <ulyssesthebarbar...@gmail.com<mailto:ulyssesthebarbar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>   > Hi Marco -
>
>   > There are various publications on this topic depending on what you are
>   > interested in. This is the World Bank publication on small scale
>   > milling. Are you looking at this scale or something larger?
>

>   >http://siteresources.worldbank.org/EXTEAPASTAE/Resources/Coconut-oil<http://siteresources.worldbank.org/EXTEAPASTAE/Resources/Coconut-oil>-...

>
>   > I am involved with research in this space so if you want to discuss it
>   > further I'd be happy to.
>
>   > Regards
>
>   > Conan
>

>   > On Apr 24, 12:32 am, Marco <marko.gra...@gmail.com<mailto:marko.gra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>   > > Good evening everybody, i was looking for studies oncoco-dieseland
>   > > its use in power generation.
>   > > Is anyone in the business or can address me to publications and data
>   > > on the subject?
>
>   > > Thank you very much,
>   > > Marco
>
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[Vinay Chand]

Marco,

 

the first thing to do is to clear up something rather important. I imagine what Raja Rajan meant was waste heat while producing charcoal. There is also waste heat during activation which requires use of high pressure dry steam. Water purification, my own personal business interest, uses activated carbon filters. Too many people use the words charcoal and carbon interchangeably. Almost no energy input is required to produce charcoal but there is a heat output. Activation is very different.

 

Waste heat from charcoal is abundant in all coconut producing countries and is the most interesting. Activation, on the other hand, requires considerable use of energy, part of which can be recovered by use of waste heat. All energy generation results in half the inputs ending up as waste heat.

 

 

Vinay Chand,
230, Finchley Road,
London NW36DJ,UK
Tel:020-77945977
Fax: 020-7431 5715
www.ruraldevelopment.info

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[Conan]

Hi Vinay, Marco, all -

I will let Raja explain his process, but I had a quick email exchange with him and my understanding is that his scheme does both carbon making and activated carbon. Since originally I had assumed Marco's request was about diesel, I didn't realise that the integrated process involves heat energy until I found out more. I suggested looking at the WB report to get an idea and as Raja is interested in using coconut oil for the generator then it will involve sizing up estimated power consumption and backing out the required energy from coconut oil. That's where we left our private discussion, just an update so everyone is on the same page.

Conan

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