On 5/22/12 12:29 AM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/05/20/Colorado-Lesbians-Face-F
> ake-Hate-Crimes-Charges
>
> ABC:
>
> A lesbian couple who claimed they were victims of a hate crime have been
> arrested after police determined they staged the incidents.
>
> On Oct. 28, Aimee Whitchurch, 37, and Christel Conklin, 29, called
> police and reported the words “Kill the Gay” were scrawled in red spray
> paint on the garage door of their Parker, Colo., home.
>
> The next day, the couple told deputies they found a noose hanging on the
> handle of their front door.
>
> The women told officers they believed the incidents were retaliation
> from their neighbors and homeowner’s association, who had complained the
> couple did not pick up after their dogs.
>
> Due to the nature of the crimes, the Douglas County Sheriff’s Office
> worked in tandem with the FBI to investigate. After reviewing witness
> statements, authorities determined Whitchurch and Conklin had staged the
> incidents.
>
> Both women are charged with criminal mischief and false reporting.
> Whitchurch faces an additional charge of forgery.
>
> Comments:
>
> STEVED95
> Let me get this straight....
Hey! Wait a minute. Is that a double entendre? Be that as it may, you
couldn't straighten a bent paperclip.
> if some scrawls "Kill the Gay" and turns out
> to be a straight person then it is a hate crime.
> If a gay person scrawls
> "Kill the Gay" to incite a certain type of behavior, then it is a local
> matter and not a hate crime?
> No, they deserve to be charged with the same
> crime that they were looking to pin on someone else-- justice for all.
It's hard to believe anyone can be this ignorant. Saying or writing
nasty things about gay people isn't usually a crime. If it were, half
the Republican party and most of their evangelical enablers would be in
jail. But the First Amendment won't allow that. If you say or write
nasty things about gay people while you're committing certain listed
crimes *and* the state can prove your crime was motivated by that
animus, then you may receive a harsher sentence upon conviction of the
listed crime. Intimidation (e.g., death threats) is usually one of the
listed crimes.
Now, pay attention here, Sparky. If the reports are correct, there was
no intimidation. What do you think -- that the two lesbians intimidated
themselves? No intimidation, no hate crime.
Note that the statute is neutral wrt sexual orientation. Let's take a
hypothetical that's no stretch. Let's say a closeted gay Republican or
closeted gay evangelical preacher -- I told you it was no stretch -- put
up the anti-gay signs. That would prosecutable even though the hate
directed at gay people was so directed by a gay person.
The feds recognize so-called hate crimes using the protected class of
sexual orientation. It turns out that Colorado does too, so chances are
it was always a local matter and would have stayed a local matter.
>
>
> -- Obama's black racist USAG appointee. Eric Holder, racist black United
> States Attorney General drops voter intimidation charges against the
> Black Panthers,
First of all, the charges were considered against the *New* Black
Panther Party, which has been disowned by the old (and at this point I
do mean old) Black Panther Party. There are about 3 people in the NBPP.
The charges were dropped by the Bush administration because the white
people complaining about being yelled at weren't voters. They were
Republican poll watchers who didn't live in or vote in the precinct.
Federal voter intimidation laws apply only when actual voters are
intimidated at the polls.
The Obama DoJ got a restraining order against the NBPP.
> "You are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker!"
> Eric Holder, prejudiced black United States Attorney General settles the
> hate crime debate, "Whites Not Protected by Hate Crime Laws."
It's in quotes, but there's no source. Not likely from Holder, who's
actually a lawyer and knows that hate crime laws are race neutral.
> Nancy
> > Pelosi, Democrat criminal, accessory before and after the fact, to
> former House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles B. Rangel of New
> York's million dollar tax evasion.
How would Nancy Pelosi know anything about Charlie Rangel's tax problems
before the fact? And she's not obligated to turn in Rangel after the
fact even if she found out. Could you be any more ignorant?
> Barack Obama and Eric Holder,
> committed treason by knowingly and deliberately arming enemies of the
> United States of America through Operation Fast and Furious.
Mexican drug cartels are not "enemies" of the US in the sense the
Constitution means. They're just criminals. The DEA under Bush did the
same thing, and I didn't hear you squealing about trying the WPE for
treason.
> Complicit
> in the murder of Federal employees during the execution of their duties.
You'll have to show intent for the deaths, Sparky.
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