PROTEST CINCO DE MAYO HERE THIS YEAR!
Radio Free America
some NOT, cruise up and down our streets ( especially Federal Blvd
here in Denver ) with Mexican flags on their cars in celebration of
a Mexican holiday.
But this is the United States, NOT Mexico.
In previous years it could be seen as a celebration of their
Mexican cultural heritage, but not this year.
This year we have millions of illegal invaders protesting in our
streets against the potential passage of ANY laws that would stop
the illegal invasion!
So this year, let these Mexican flags be met with as many
protesters as possible, waving American flags, to show that this
isn't Mexico, this is the United States, and we don't need their
movement to illegally invade us and take back the American
southwest for Mexico!
Please pass the word and let's get a massive show of support for
the United States, waving American flags this May 5th on Federal
Blvd and everywhere else they display Mexican flags!
ouroboros rex
"Radio Free America" <RFA...@spamspoof.com> wrote in message
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> Each year in Denver, thousands of Mexicans, some legally here and
> some NOT, cruise up and down our streets ( especially Federal Blvd
> here in Denver ) with Mexican flags on their cars in celebration of
> a Mexican holiday.
>
> But this is the United States, NOT Mexico.
>
> In previous years it could be seen as a celebration of their
> Mexican cultural heritage, but not this year.
k00k-a-d00dle-d00000!!!!
I wonder, how come republicans didn't give a damn about all this until a
few weeks ago when BushCo's numbers went in the pooper?
samurai
> "Radio Free America" <RFA...@spamspoof.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns97AA87D7E7D69R...@216.196.97.142...
>> Each year in Denver, thousands of Mexicans, some legally here and
>> some NOT, cruise up and down our streets ( especially Federal Blvd
>> here in Denver ) with Mexican flags on their cars in celebration of
>> a Mexican holiday.
>>
>> But this is the United States, NOT Mexico.
>>
>> In previous years it could be seen as a celebration of their
>> Mexican cultural heritage, but not this year.
>
> k00k-a-d00dle-d00000!!!!
Do you ever have anything of value to say?
> I wonder, how come republicans didn't give a damn about all this until a
> few weeks ago when BushCo's numbers went in the pooper?
I wonder why ALL the pols have avoided this since the end of the Bracero
program.
Have a take - don't SUCK!
Matt
Oh, hey, look, the dipstick is back.
You celebrate Christmas, no?
You celebrate St Patricks Day, no?
You celebrate Easter, no?
Guess what, dip? NONE of those are American holidays.
What a surprise.
Buh-bye now, buh-bye
Matt
samurai
> samurai wrote:
>> ouroboros rex wrote:
>>> "Radio Free America" <RFA...@spamspoof.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns97AA87D7E7D69R...@216.196.97.142...
>>>> Each year in Denver, thousands of Mexicans, some legally here and
>>>> some NOT, cruise up and down our streets ( especially Federal Blvd
>>>> here in Denver ) with Mexican flags on their cars in celebration of
>>>> a Mexican holiday.
>>>>
>>>> But this is the United States, NOT Mexico.
>>>>
>>>> In previous years it could be seen as a celebration of their
>>>> Mexican cultural heritage, but not this year.
>>> k00k-a-d00dle-d00000!!!!
>> Do you ever have anything of value to say?
>>
>>> I wonder, how come republicans didn't give a damn about all this until a
>>> few weeks ago when BushCo's numbers went in the pooper?
>> I wonder why ALL the pols have avoided this since the end of the Bracero
>> program.
>>
>> Have a take - don't SUCK!
>
> Oh, hey, look, the dipstick is back.
>
> You celebrate Christmas, no?
I do.
> You celebrate St Patricks Day, no?
No.
> You celebrate Easter, no?
I do.
> Guess what, dip? NONE of those are American holidays.
So?
> What a surprise.
How many of them commemorate battles fought for another nation's
independence?
> Buh-bye now, buh-bye
> Matt
Cya.
If they new their own history they'd be celebrating something other than
the battle of Peubla, hth, look it up.
Btw - can we add Boxing Day and Guy Fawks Day to the list?
Chas
> How many of them commemorate battles fought for another nation's
> independence?
and somehow cast we, their host country, as the opposition- it's almost a
surrogate for the concept of reconquista.
Show your white face at a Cinco de Mayo celebration and see what your
reception is- blacks get even worse treatment.
Chas
samurai
> "samurai" <s...@rai.ki> wrote
>> How many of them commemorate battles fought for another nation's
>> independence?
>
> and somehow cast we, their host country, as the opposition- it's almost a
> surrogate for the concept of reconquista.
Well said.
Viva Aztlan ;-(
> Show your white face at a Cinco de Mayo celebration and see what your
> reception is- blacks get even worse treatment.
>
> Chas
If they wanted to highlight their _cultural heritage_ el dia de los
muertos would be far more appropriate...
Scenes from tonight's WB2 News coverage of the "students'" rally to the
capitol:
<camera on young (15) latina, screaming and waving>
Latina : "GO MEJICO!!!! Wooo Wooo!!!"
Newsman: "Do you speak Enlglish?
Latina : "No".
(some great schools we have)
<camera on young (13) latino, grinning>
Newsman: "What are you here for, skipping class?"
Latino: "Well yeah, I mean no, I'm here to celebrate my country."
Newsman: "Which country is that?"
Latino: MEXICO!
Way to go "ese's"....gun -->foot -->BANG.
ouroboros rex
"samurai" <s...@rai.ki> wrote in message
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rofl The poor rightards have to go to 13 year olds to boost their infantile
racist crap.
ouroboros rex
"Chas" <chascl...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "samurai" <s...@rai.ki> wrote
>> How many of them commemorate battles fought for another nation's
>> independence?
>
> and somehow cast we, their host country, as the opposition
Nope, just the republican assholes who want them dead.
- it's almost a
> surrogate for the concept of reconquista.
> Show your white face at a Cinco de Mayo celebration and see what your
> reception is- blacks get even worse treatment.
Been there, done that.
Matt
Yah know, I really think you are vastly overestimating this bunch.
matt
Chas
>>> How many of them commemorate battles fought for another nation's
>>> independence?
>> and somehow cast we, their host country, as the opposition
> Nope, just the republican assholes who want them dead.
Oh- it's not just Republicans anymore.
The whole 'la raza' schmeer is as offensively racist as any KKK tenet, and
they idea that they think they can intimidate us with it is laughable.
>> Show your white face at a Cinco de Mayo celebration and see what your
>> reception is- blacks get even worse treatment.
> Been there, done that.
Then you know it to be true.
Chas
samurai
Gee, that was a verbatim replay of last night's 9PM news report here in
Denver.
If it bothers you, call WB2!
> Talk to Us!
> Email us at wb2...@wb2.com.
> Or call 303-740-2855
samurai
> "Chas" <chascl...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:puKdnUWd9uw...@comcast.com...
>> "samurai" <s...@rai.ki> wrote
>>> How many of them commemorate battles fought for another nation's
>>> independence?
>> and somehow cast we, their host country, as the opposition
>
> Nope, just the republican assholes who want them dead.
You're insane, seek help.
samurai
Didn't watch the news either, send YOUR complaints to:
Matt
samurai wrote:
> Matt wrote:
> > samurai wrote:
> >> ouroboros rex wrote:
> >>> "Radio Free America" <RFA...@spamspoof.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:Xns97AA87D7E7D69R...@216.196.97.142...
> >>>> Each year in Denver, thousands of Mexicans, some legally here and
> >>>> some NOT, cruise up and down our streets ( especially Federal Blvd
> >>>> here in Denver ) with Mexican flags on their cars in celebration of
> >>>> a Mexican holiday.
> >>>>
> >>>> But this is the United States, NOT Mexico.
> >>>>
> >>>> In previous years it could be seen as a celebration of their
> >>>> Mexican cultural heritage, but not this year.
> >>> k00k-a-d00dle-d00000!!!!
> >> Do you ever have anything of value to say?
> >>
> >>> I wonder, how come republicans didn't give a damn about all this until a
> >>> few weeks ago when BushCo's numbers went in the pooper?
> >> I wonder why ALL the pols have avoided this since the end of the Bracero
> >> program.
> >>
> >> Have a take - don't SUCK!
> >
> > Oh, hey, look, the dipstick is back.
> >
> > You celebrate Christmas, no?
>
> I do.
Why? Is it YOUR birthday? No. In fact, it didn't even happen in this
country.
Why on earth are you celebrating the birth of a religion that has
nothing to do
with America?
>
> > You celebrate St Patricks Day, no?
>
> No.
To each their own.
>
> > You celebrate Easter, no?
>
> I do.
See above.
>
> > Guess what, dip? NONE of those are American holidays.
>
> So?
So, why do you celebrate them? Cinco de Mayo isn't an American holiday
either. Lots of Brits celebrate quite a few holidays here that we
don't. Canadians
do too. Why don't you complain about THEM?
>
> > What a surprise.
>
> How many of them commemorate battles fought for another nation's
> independence?
Who CARES?
>
> > Buh-bye now, buh-bye
> > Matt
>
>
> Cya.
>
> If they new their own history they'd be celebrating something other than
> the battle of Peubla, hth, look it up.
>
> Btw - can we add Boxing Day and Guy Fawks Day to the list?
I would have, but I suspected most of the readers of the newsgroup
would have
had no idea what they were.
matt
samurai
Nothing to do with America????
Are you high???
What faith do you recall our founding fathers came from?
>>> You celebrate St Patricks Day, no?
>> No.
>
> To each their own.
Not Irish, what can I say...
>>> You celebrate Easter, no?
>> I do.
>
> See above.
Halloween too!
Same pagan roots.
>>> Guess what, dip? NONE of those are American holidays.
>> So?
>
> So, why do you celebrate them?
Because this is STILL a Christian nation borne of Christian ideals.
> Cinco de Mayo isn't an American holiday
> either. Lots of Brits celebrate quite a few holidays here that we
> don't. Canadians
> do too. Why don't you complain about THEM?
I haven't seen Brits or Canadians doing this, nor marching with their
flags, have you?
>>> What a surprise.
>> How many of them commemorate battles fought for another nation's
>> independence?
>
> Who CARES?
Gee...I DO!
Do I need to celebrate Bastille Day too???
Thanks, but i celebrate MY OWN nation's independence, no others.
>>> Buh-bye now, buh-bye
>>> Matt
>>
>> Cya.
>>
>> If they new their own history they'd be celebrating something other than
>> the battle of Peubla, hth, look it up.
>>
>> Btw - can we add Boxing Day and Guy Fawks Day to the list?
>
> I would have, but I suspected most of the readers of the newsgroup
> would have
> had no idea what they were.
>
Likely because they are NOT widely celebrated here, duh.
Matt
They were deists. Next?
>
> >>> You celebrate St Patricks Day, no?
> >> No.
> >
> > To each their own.
>
> Not Irish, what can I say...
As I said, to each their own. I'm not either.
>
> >>> You celebrate Easter, no?
> >> I do.
> >
> > See above.
>
> Halloween too!
>
> Same pagan roots.
Halloween wasn't a particularly evil holiday, and still isn't. I think
you
mean All Saints Day.
>
> >>> Guess what, dip? NONE of those are American holidays.
> >> So?
> >
> > So, why do you celebrate them?
>
> Because this is STILL a Christian nation borne of Christian ideals.
Er, no, it isn't. They were deists. They fled a nation that had
succumbed
to religious insanity. It was unlikely they were going to bring it
back.
>
> > Cinco de Mayo isn't an American holiday
> > either. Lots of Brits celebrate quite a few holidays here that we
> > don't. Canadians
> > do too. Why don't you complain about THEM?
>
> I haven't seen Brits or Canadians doing this, nor marching with their
> flags, have you?
Sure, but I'm from New York originally. Happens all the time there. I
guess we are just a tad more tolerant.
>
> >>> What a surprise.
> >> How many of them commemorate battles fought for another nation's
> >> independence?
> >
> > Who CARES?
>
> Gee...I DO!
>
> Do I need to celebrate Bastille Day too???
You could. Nobody would be likely to object.
>
> Thanks, but i celebrate MY OWN nation's independence, no others.
Good for you. The problem, son, is that this is a WORLD we live in,
not a single nation. Get used to it. You gave up the right to believe
in
a single nation when your President invaded another country.
Matt
samurai
Nope, only SOME, not ALL.
>>>>> You celebrate St Patricks Day, no?
>>>> No.
>>> To each their own.
>> Not Irish, what can I say...
>
> As I said, to each their own. I'm not either.
>
>>>>> You celebrate Easter, no?
>>>> I do.
>>> See above.
>> Halloween too!
>>
>> Same pagan roots.
>
> Halloween wasn't a particularly evil holiday, and still isn't. I think
> you
> mean All Saints Day.
I actually prefer el dia de los muertos, much more reverential in
practice and tradition!
Plus the candy skulls taste groovy.
>>>>> Guess what, dip? NONE of those are American holidays.
>>>> So?
>>> So, why do you celebrate them?
>> Because this is STILL a Christian nation borne of Christian ideals.
>
> Er, no, it isn't. They were deists. They fled a nation that had
> succumbed
> to religious insanity. It was unlikely they were going to bring it
> back.
Oh my, here we go again....
http://www.alliance4lifemin.org/categorized_articles/heritage/ach_part2/ach_part2.htm
Most people don’t realize what this nation was like at its beginning.
Even as late as 1776 – 150 years after a Christian group we refer to as
the Pilgrims moved their church to America, we see the population of our
country as: 98 percent Protestant Christians, 1.8 percent Catholic
Christians, and .2 of 1 percent Jewish. That means that 99.8% of the
people in America in 1776 professed to be Christians.
Reverend Jonas Clark was the "parson" of a church in a small town called
Lexington. In his church parking lot, only a few feet from the church
parsonage, the "shot heard around the world" was fired. The people that
were killed were members of his congregation. Clark looked down with
great anguish at the bodies of those who had died and made this
statement: "From this day will be dated the liberty of the world." It
began in a church. It began with a pastor that was part of the "Black
Regiment" because of the black robes they wore. These pastors preached
resounding sermons that resonated throughout New England about the evils
of tyranny and the importance of liberty.
Revolutionary leaders were devout men who could not have been more
empathic in their determination that our national policy rested on
Scriptural foundation. Of the 55 delegates to the Constitutional
Convention, 52 were Orthodox Christians.
OUR FOUNDING FOREFATHERS PAVE THE WAY BEFORE US:
After signing the Declaration of Independence, Samuel Adams, who was
called the firebrand of the American Revolution, affirmed his obedience
to God by stating, "We have this day restored the Sovereign to whom
alone men ought to be obedient. From the rising to the setting of the
sun may His kingdom come."
Reverend Doctor John Witherspoon, signer of the Declaration of
Independence, member of the Continental Congress, described as the "man
who shaped the man that shaped America" said, "God grant that in America
true religion and civil liberty may be inseparable . . . ." Reverend
Witherspoon was also responsible for publishing two American editions of
the Bible.
Benjamin Franklin, who signed the Declaration and was often identified
as a deist in his younger years, delivered his most famous speech on
June 28, 1787, at the age of eighty-one. He said, "I have lived, sir, a
long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of
this truth: that God governs in the affairs of man. And if a sparrow
cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an
empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured, Sir, in the
Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain
that build it."
Other notable Christian signers of the Declaration were: Charles
Thompson, who is responsible for the first translation of the Greek
Septuagint into English; Dr. Benjamin Rush, founder of the first Bible
Society in America; Francis Hopkinson, who was responsible for the first
American hymnbook; Cesar Rodney, whose home State of Delaware (the first
state to ratify the U.S. Constitution) required that officeholders sign
a declaration of Christian faith, Thomas Nelson JR, Commander of the
Virginia Militia, and Thomas McKean, the man responsible for the first
legal commentary on the constitution of the United States.
Pennsylvania’s Chief Justice, a founding father, said to a man sentenced
to die for treason, "It behooves you most seriously to reflect upon your
conduct, to repent of your evil deeds, to be incessant in prayers to the
great and merciful God to forgive you your . . . sins."
John Hancock, president of the Continental Congress, said, "Let us
humbly commit our righteous cause to the great Lord of the Universe."
Governor Morris, who wrote the Constitution in 1787, and wrote in 1790
and in 1791, two commentaries on the Constitution said, "Religion is the
solid basis of good morals; therefore education should teach the
precepts of religion, and the duties of man toward God."
William Paterson, a signer of the Constitution, closed his speeches with
Proverbs 29:2: "When the righteous rule, the people rejoice. When the
wicked rule, the people groan."
George Mason, father of the Bill of Rights, exclaimed, "My soul I resign
into the hands of my Almighty Creator, whose tender mercies are all over
His works . . . "
Nathan Hale, called the "Martyr Spy," came from a solid Christian
foundation and upbringing. He is best remembered for his last words,
prior to laying down his life for God and country at the young age of
twenty-one, "I only regret that I have but one life to loose for my
country."
Two other founding fathers of our nation that expressed their fervent
Christian beliefs were Roger Sherman and Charles Cotesworth Pinckney.
Alexander Hamilton could also be added to that list.
John Jay, first Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court wrote, "Unto Him
who is the Author and giver of all good, I render sincere and humble
thanks for His manifold and unmerited blessings, and especially for our
redemption and salvation by His beloved Son."
James Wilson, George Washington’s appointment to the Supreme Court
stated, "Christianity is part of the common-law."
Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story (appointed by President James
Madison) called America a "Christian country."
Statesman Daniel Webster warned of political disaster. He stated, "If we
and our posterity neglect religious instruction and authority . . . no
man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us." Webster said on
December 22,1820, observing the 200th anniversary of the landing of the
Pilgrims at Plymouth, Massachusetts, "Let us not forget the religious
character of our origin. Our fathers brought hither their high
veneration of the Christian religion."
French historian Alex de Tocqueville, author of "Democracy in America"
in 1835, wrote, "There is no country in the world where the Christian
religion retains a greater influence over the souls of men than in America."
Noah Webster, who literally wrote the English dictionary claimed, "The
moral principles and precepts contained in the Scriptures ought to form
the basis of all civil Constitutions and laws."
Patrick Henry, a Christian patriot, golden tongued orator of the
Revolutionary period, and the only U.S. Governor to be elected and
reelected five times said in a celebrated speech before the
Revolutionary War, "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be
purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I
know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or
give me death!" Henry also said, "It cannot be emphasized too strongly
or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists,
but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospels of Jesus Christ."
One of the great slogans of the American Revolution was "No King but
King Jesus!"
In 1799 the Supreme Court in Maryland ruled: "By our form of government
the Christian religion is the established religion; and all sects and
denominations of Christians are placed upon equal footing, and they are
equally entitled to protection in their religious liberty."
The founding fathers expected officeholders to be Christians.While
denominational affiliation didn’t matter, a belief in God and the Bible
was paramount. Nine of the thirteen colonies had written constitutions.
Many of them required officeholders to sign a declaration that amounted
to a statement of faith. The Delaware Constitution of 1776 is a perfect
example. Everyone appointed to public office had to say: "I do profess
faith in God the Father, and in the Lord Jesus Christ His only Son, and
in the Holy Ghost, one God, blessed forevermore; and I do acknowledge
the holy scriptures of the Old and New Testaments to be given by divine
inspiration."
Two historians at the University of Houston did a 10-year study of the
ideas that shaped our republic. They started with 15,000 documents from
the Colonial era, which were boiled down to 3,154 statements. The three
most quoted individuals were French philosopher Montesquieu (8.3
percent), English jurist William Blackstone (7.9 percent) and English
philosopher John Locke (2.9 percent). But Biblical citations dwarfed
them all. Ninety-four percent of the founding fathers quotes were based
on the Bible--34 percent directly from its pages and 60 percent from men
who had used the Bible to arrive at their conclusions.
The Bible is the foundation upon which our nation was built. A hundred
and nineteen of the first schools, including Harvard, Princeton,
Dartmouth, and Yale, were established on the Word of God and dedicated
to the Lordship of Christ and for the training of disciples of the Lord.
As late as 1850 Christians ran virtually every newspaper in this
country. The law and the federal and local judiciaries were either all
Christians or Jewish.
The Continental Congress, in 1777, recommended and approved that the
Committee of Commerce "import 20,000 Bibles from Holland, Scotland, or
elsewhere," because of the great need of the American people and the
great shortage caused by the interruption of trade with England by the
Revolutionary War.
PRIORITIES OF OUR EARLY U.S. PRESIDENTS:
On April 30,1789, the first President of the United States, George
Washington, took the oath of office with his hand on the Bible opened to
Deuteronomy 6. In his first inaugural address, President Washington
acknowledged God for the reason for America’s birth: "It would be
improper to omit, in this first official act, my fervent supplication to
that Almighty Being. . . . No people can be bound to acknowledge and
adore the invisible hand which conducts the affairs of men more than
people of the United States. . . . We ought to be no less persuaded that
the propitious smiles of Heaven cannot be expected on a nation that
disregards the eternal rules of order and right, which Heaven itself has
ordained." President Washington’s inaugural address concluded with a
church service at Saint Paul’s Chapel, led by the chaplains of Congress.
President Washington professed his Christian faith publicly in many of
his speeches and writings. "True religion offers to government its
surest support," Washington said. "It is impossible to rightly govern
the world without God and the Bible." His personal prayer book, written
in his own handwriting, declares: "O most Glorious God, in Jesus Christ
my merciful loving Father, I acknowledge and confess my guilt, in the
week and imperfect performance of the duties of this day." It is factual
that President Washington knelt and prayed and read the Bible for one
hour every day. John Marshall, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
described Washington: "Without making ostentatious professions of
religion, he was a sincere believer in the Christian faith, and a truly
devout man."
John Adams, our second president, said, "Our Constitution was made only
for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the
government or any other."
Even Thomas Jefferson, third president, and one who certainly did not
hold to all the traditional doctrines of Christianity, placed the Bible
and Isaac Watt’s Book of Psalms and Hymns in the District of Columbia’s
public schools. Jefferson declared religion: "Deemed in other countries
incompatible with good government and yet proved by our experience to be
its best support."
James Madison, fourth president of the United States and referred to as
the "Father of the Constitution," stated, "The belief in a God All
Powerful, wise and good, is essential to the moral order of the world
and to the happiness of man."
John Quincy Adams, sixth President of the United States and "Chief
Architect" of the Constitution said, "The highest glory of the American
Revolution was it connected, in one indissoluble bond, the principles of
civil government with the principles of Christianity."
Andrew Jackson, our seventh president claimed (referring to the Bible)
"That book, sir, is the rock on which our republic stands."
A QUICK TOUR OF OUR CAPITOL REMINDS US THAT THIS NATION WAS BUILT UPON
THE FOUNDATIONS OF CHRISTIAN BELIEF.
* The Supreme Court building portrays Moses holding the Ten
Commandments through which the voice of God thunders "Thou shalt not
murder."
* The Capitol Rotunda contains eight massive oil paintings, each
depicting a major event in history. Four of these paintings portray
Jesus Christ and the Bible: 1) Columbus landing on the shores of the New
World, and holding high the cross of Jesus Christ, 2) a group of Dutch
pilgrims gathered around a large, opened Bible, 3) a cross being planted
in the soil, commemorating the discovery of the Mississippi River by the
Explorer De Soto, and 4) the Christian baptism of the Indian convert
Pocahontas.
* Statuary Hall contains life size statues of famous citizens that
have been given by individual states. Medical missionary Marcus Whitman
stands big as life, holding a Bible. Another statue is of missionary
Junipero Serra, who founded the missions of Los Angeles, San Francisco,
Montery and San Diego. Illinois sent a statue of Francis Willard, an
associate of the evangelist Dwight L. Moody.
* Inscribed on the walls of the Library of Congress are quotes
honoring the study of art, the wall is etched with "Nature is the art of
God." A quote honoring Science says, "The heavens declare the glory of
God." An inspiration honoring religion is Micah 6:8, "What doth the Lord
require of thee but to do justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with
thy God."
* On a wall in the Jefferson Memorial we read, "God who gave us
life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure
when we removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of
people that these liberties are a gift from God? That they are not to be
violated without His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I
reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever."
* As you climb the steps inside the Washington Monument you will
notice stones with inscriptions on them. Some of them are, "Search the
Scriptures" – "Train up a child in the way he should go and when he is
old he will not depart from it" – "The memory of the just is blessed" –
"Holiness to the Lord" – and the top which says "Praise be to God!"
* Inscribed on the north wall of the Lincoln Memorial is the
Presidents second inaugural address. Lincoln feared that God would not
be satisfied until every drop of blood drawn by the lash is repaid by
another drop of blood drawn by the sword.
Are these inscriptions just empty words, nostalgic sayings that no
longer describe the ideals of our nation’s government? Consider the
message of another inscription, this one at the base of a large statute
entitled "Heritage," which is outside the main entrance of the National
Archives. It reads: "The heritage of the past is the seed that brings
forth the harvest of the future."
>>> Cinco de Mayo isn't an American holiday
>>> either. Lots of Brits celebrate quite a few holidays here that we
>>> don't. Canadians
>>> do too. Why don't you complain about THEM?
>> I haven't seen Brits or Canadians doing this, nor marching with their
>> flags, have you?
>
> Sure, but I'm from New York originally. Happens all the time there. I
> guess we are just a tad more tolerant.
I don't believe you, and if true it's only a local oddity at best.
I've lived over most of the west, never seen it, ever.
>>>>> What a surprise.
>>>> How many of them commemorate battles fought for another nation's
>>>> independence?
>>> Who CARES?
>> Gee...I DO!
>>
>> Do I need to celebrate Bastille Day too???
>
> You could. Nobody would be likely to object.
Nope, not MY nation!
>> Thanks, but i celebrate MY OWN nation's independence, no others.
>
> Good for you. The problem, son, is that this is a WORLD we live in,
> not a single nation. Get used to it. You gave up the right to believe
> in
> a single nation when your President invaded another country.
>
What a classic non sequitur.
You really know how to flee a losing debate.
Matt
samurai
Matt
The page lists numerous things they said.
But here's a very simple question that gets to the heart of the matter:
If religion is, indeed, the core of our country... why is the Ten
Commandments
not the basis for the Constitution?
Matt
samurai
tried and sen as a failure in yurop.
So the root principles were employed, but with statutory legal
impediments to excesses in interpretation.
Matt
Really. So why do you say we are a Christian nation? You seem a bit
self-contradictory here.
>
>
> So the root principles were employed, but with statutory legal
> impediments to excesses in interpretation.
What IS that first Commandment, again?
Matt
Chas
>> Simple, there was no intent to form a theocratic republic, that had been
>> tried and sen as a failure in yurop.
> Really. So why do you say we are a Christian nation? You seem a bit
> self-contradictory here.
Actually, you tend to conflate 'religion' with 'church'.
1st Amend says 'no laws about the practice of religion'; 'no establishment
of a State Church'. The two concepts are approached separately.
>> So the root principles were employed, but with statutory legal
>> impediments to excesses in interpretation.
> What IS that first Commandment, again?
Fuck with the bull and you'll get the horn.
Why is that so hard for you people to understand?
Chas
samurai
They're so whiny and churlish about our heritage; Stalin would've loved
this bunch...
samurai
Not given the Christian ROOTS we have, and too the Christian MAJORITY we
sport.
>> So the root principles were employed, but with statutory legal
>> impediments to excesses in interpretation.
>
> What IS that first Commandment, again?
Always Buy American.
Matt
Chas wrote:
> "Matt" <mattt...@sprynet.com> wrote
> >> Simple, there was no intent to form a theocratic republic, that had been
> >> tried and sen as a failure in yurop.
> > Really. So why do you say we are a Christian nation? You seem a bit
> > self-contradictory here.
>
> Actually, you tend to conflate 'religion' with 'church'.
Er, no, I don't. Please read the thread before posting to it.
> 1st Amend says 'no laws about the practice of religion'; 'no establishment
> of a State Church'. The two concepts are approached separately.
Funny, I don't recall talking about the first. He said we were a
Christian
nation, I disagreed. Go back and read the thread, please.
>
> >> So the root principles were employed, but with statutory legal
> >> impediments to excesses in interpretation.
> > What IS that first Commandment, again?
>
> Fuck with the bull and you'll get the horn.
> Why is that so hard for you people to understand?
Probably because its not what the first Commandment says. But then,
why should I be surprised?
Matt
Matt
Deist roots, anti-Catholic roots. Majority? Hm. So you want majority
rule?
What happens when you become unimportant? Its ok to just eliminate you?
Please answer yes or no.
>
> >> So the root principles were employed, but with statutory legal
> >> impediments to excesses in interpretation.
> >
> > What IS that first Commandment, again?
>
> Always Buy American.
That explains a lot. Especially from someone with a nice Japanese
pseudonym.
Matt
samurai
Cite your percentages.
Goon - DO IT!
Then explain why these "deists" used CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES!
>>>> So the root principles were employed, but with statutory legal
>>>> impediments to excesses in interpretation.
>>> What IS that first Commandment, again?
>> Always Buy American.
>
> That explains a lot.
Drop dead traitor.
Matt
Idiots. I'm COMPLETELY surrounded by idiots.
What on God's green earth makes you think that those principles
were created by Christians, you complete and utter MORON? Jews
wrote the first five books of "your" Bible, schmuck.
Please, learn SOMETHING about the world before you go off on others,
ok? No WONDER Muslims want to wipe you idiots off the map.
>
>
> >>>> So the root principles were employed, but with statutory legal
> >>>> impediments to excesses in interpretation.
> >>> What IS that first Commandment, again?
> >> Always Buy American.
> >
> > That explains a lot.
>
> Drop dead traitor.
Ahhh yes. No rebuttal, thus the attack. Yep, now THERE Is Christisan
principal. At least on Usenet.
Matt
samurai
Did I say they were "CREATED BY"????
Well, assmunch, did I?
CITE!
> No WONDER Muslims want to wipe you idiots off the map.
Wow, now that says it all, you damnable traitor.
Matt
Sigh. A complete idiot, or a very small child, apparently.
If you don't create something, sonny, how can you claim it to be yours?
>
> > No WONDER Muslims want to wipe you idiots off the map.
>
> Wow, now that says it all, you damnable traitor.
No doubt. More and more ad hominems, less and less rationality.
Yep, there's a Christian for you.
Matt
samurai
Christianity is well known to have borrowed many ancient cultural icons
- take that prayerful affirmation "Amen", borrowed from the Egyptian's
"Amen Ra".
>>> No WONDER Muslims want to wipe you idiots off the map.
>> Wow, now that says it all, you damnable traitor.
>
> No doubt. More and more ad hominems,
If you side with out enemies you are a traitor, period.
Matt
Er, and this makes them CHRISTIAN principles? By your argument, this
country is a Jewish nation, since most of the principles it was founded
under
are core to the Jewish religion. You are just being stupid, now.
>
> >>> No WONDER Muslims want to wipe you idiots off the map.
> >> Wow, now that says it all, you damnable traitor.
> >
> > No doubt. More and more ad hominems,
>
> If you side with out enemies you are a traitor, period.
No doubt. After all, there're only two sides to everything. Everything
is right or
it is wrong. Yep, we understand you just fine. My two year old used to
think that
too. She grew out of it.
matt