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 More options May 10, 11:19 pm
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From: monkey_cart...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 20:19:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, May 10 2008 11:19 pm
Subject: GOP Leaders Warn Of Election Disaster
GOP Leaders Warn Of Election Disaster
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In a piece published in Human Events, the Republicans’ onetime
captain, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, warned his old colleagues
that they face “real disaster” on Election Day unless they move
immediately to “chart a bold course of real reform” for the country.
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(The Politico) This story was written by John Bresnahan.
Shellshocked House Republicans got warnings from leaders past and
present Tuesday: Your party’s message isn’t good enough to prevent
disaster in November, and neither is the NRCC’s money.

The double shot of bad news had one veteran Republican House member
worrying aloud that the party’s electoral woes - brought into sharp
focus by Woody Jenkins’ loss to Don Cazayoux in Louisiana on Saturday
- have the House Republican Conference splitting apart in “everybody
for himself” mode.

“There is an attitude that, ‘I better watch out for myself, because
nobody else is going to do it,’” the member said. “There are all these
different factions out there, everyone is sniping at each other, and
we have no real plan. We have a lot of people fighting to be the
captain of the lifeboat instead of everybody pulling together.”

In a piece published in Human Events, the Republicans’ onetime
captain, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, warned his old colleagues
that they face “real disaster” on Election Day unless they move
immediately to “chart a bold course of real reform” for the country.

And in a closed-door session at the Capitol, National Republican
Congressional Committee Chairman Tom Cole (R-Okla.) told members that
the NRCC doesn’t have enough cash to “save them” in November if they
don’t raise enough money or run strong campaigns themselves.
Although a top House Republican brushed aside Gingrich’s broadside as
“hype from a has-been who desperately wants to be a player but can’t
anymore,” the harsh words from Cole were harder to ignore.

“It was a pretty stern line that he took with us,” said one House
Republican.

Cole, on the defensive in the wake of special election losses in
Louisiana and Illinois, pointed his finger Tuesday at his Republican
colleagues, telling them that they had been too stingy in helping fund
party efforts. He also complained that the Republicans ran weak
candidates in both Louisiana and Illinois - a charge Cole made despite
the fact that, as NRCC chairman, he could have played a major role in
choosing the party’s candidates if he hadn’t made the decision to stay
out of GOP primaries.

In his meeting with members, Cole distributed a document showing that
even former Republican political guru Karl Rove had badmouthed
Jenkins, according to GOP sources. It’s not clear whether Cole meant
it as a criticism of Rove or of Jenkins.

But Cole’s overall message was clear, said members who sat through the
meeting: “If you’re not out doing your own work, and you’re waiting
for the NRCC to come in at the last minute and save you, it ain’t
gonna happen.” That’s how one lawmaker characterized Cole’s talk,
adding that the NRCC is “not going to have the resources” to help all
members “and Democrats will have a lot more money.”

Republicans are suffering a crisis of confidence after the two special
election losses. There’s talk that House Minority Leader John A.
Boehner and other GOP leaders could be ousted if the party suffers
double-digit losses in November.

Gingrich’s broadside did little to calm the GOP jitters.

While Gingrich softened his blow by circulating it privately to the
GOP leadership on Monday - a day before it was publicly released - his
language was still strong, and his message was seen as a broad attack
on Boehner, Cole and the rest of the Republican leadership.

“The Republican loss in the special election for Louisiana’s 6th
Congressional District last Saturday should be a sharp wake-up call
for Republicans,” Gingrich wrote. “Either congressional Republicans
are going to chart a bold course of real change or they are going to
suffer decisive losses this November.”
Gingrich said Republicans cannot rely on the popularity of Sen. John
McCain (R-Ariz.), the presumptive GOP presidential nominee, to carry
them to victory in November. And he warned that attacks on Sens.
Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) and on the
Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s former pastor, could backfire.

“The Republican brand has been so badly damaged that if Republicans
try to run an anti-Obama, anti-Rev. Wright or, if Sen. Clinton wins,
anti-Clinton campaign, they are simply going to fail,” Gingrich said.
“This model has already been tested with disastrous results.”

The NRCC ran TV ads tying Cazayoux to national Democratic figures in
the Louisiana special election, only to see Democrats grab control of
a House seat that had been in the GOP column for more than three
decades.

Gingrich, who was pushed out as speaker following GOP losses in the
1998 midterm elections, advocated “an emergency, members-only” meeting
of House Republicans in order to hash out a new reform agenda before
Memorial Day. He also called for a “complete overhaul” of the NRCC.

Gingrich said that if the GOP leadership would not go along with his
plan, “then the minority who are activists should establish a parallel
organization dedicated to real change.” He offered nine policy
proposals designed to achieve that goal, including repealing federal
gas taxes, reforming the Census Bureau and declaring English as the
official language of the United States.

Boehner tried to put the best face on Gingrich’s message. His
spokesman, Michael Steel, said that Boehner “certainly agrees - and
has said repeatedly - that Republicans can only succeed this year by
being agents of change and reform.” Steel said Republicans have to
convince voters that they can “fix” Washington and that, in the coming
weeks, they will be “laying out Republican policies that embody the
sort of changes we need.”

But there is no question that Gingrich has identified a nervous
undercurrent among House Republicans that could morph into full-
fledged panic if the GOP loses a special election next Tuesday in
Mississippi. Republican Greg Davis is squaring off against Democrat
Travis Childers for the House seat held by former Rep. Roger Wicker (R-
Miss.), who was appointed to the Senate to replace retired Sen. Trent
Lott (R-Miss.).

With internal polls from both parties showing the race as a tossup,
the GOP is putting on a full-court press. The White House has
dispatched Vice President Cheney to Mississippi to campaign on Davis’
behalf. And Wicker, Lott, Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.) and Mississippi
Gov. Haley Barbour will hold events for Davis this weekend and early
next week, according to GOP sources.

House Republicans will hold a rally with President Bush on Wednesday
morning, with all 199 members invited to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. to
show solidarity with the president, according to GOP sources.

By John Bresnahan
Copyright 2008 POLITICO


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From: Bas Mati <w...@rice.cook>
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 03:49:13 GMT
Local: Sat, May 10 2008 11:49 pm
Subject: Re: GOP Leaders Warn Of Election Disaster

monkey_cart...@yahoo.com wrote:
> In a piece published in Human Events, the Republicans’ onetime
> captain, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, warned his old colleagues
> that they face “real disaster” on Election Day unless they move
> immediately to “chart a bold course of real reform” for the country.

Makes sense, you seem worried though....

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From: "Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names" <PopUlist...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 20:57:25 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: GOP Leaders Warn Of Election Disaster
On May 10, 11:19 pm, monkey_cart...@yahoo.com wrote:

rats, sinking ship

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From: monkey_cart...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 21:05:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, May 11 2008 12:05 am
Subject: Re: GOP Leaders Warn Of Election Disaster

Bas Mati wrote:
> monkey_cart...@yahoo.com wrote:

> > In a piece published in Human Events, the Republicans� onetime
> > captain, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, warned his old colleagues
> > that they face �real disaster� on Election Day unless they move
> > immediately to �chart a bold course of real reform� for the country.

> Makes sense, you seem worried though....

I am, because this is a two party system and one cannot seem to pull
it's collective heads out of their collective asses. Like one boss
said, when I couldn't do an aspect of the job, he said to wait in the
truck.

I would have been more of an asset if I could have done the job the
way it was supposed to be done. The politics of Republicans are only
to attack Democrats and serve big business, if that doesn't change the
Republican party will continue to fail the people. Heck these right-
wingers are to stupid to realize that the Republican party doesn't
even represent them to make that change, even when they are told that
by their power politicians.

I will accept them falling into complete irrelevance if thats what
they continue to choose to do.


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From: Bas Mati <w...@rice.cook>
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 04:37:18 GMT
Local: Sun, May 11 2008 12:37 am
Subject: Re: GOP Leaders Warn Of Election Disaster
Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names wrote:

> rats, sinking ship

Far left morons heading for the rapids, buh bye....

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From: Bas Mati <w...@rice.cook>
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 04:49:45 GMT
Local: Sun, May 11 2008 12:49 am
Subject: Re: GOP Leaders Warn Of Election Disaster

monkey_cart...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Bas Mati wrote:
>> monkey_cart...@yahoo.com wrote:

>>> In a piece published in Human Events, the Republicans� onetime
>>> captain, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, warned his old colleagues
>>> that they face �real disaster� on Election Day unless they move
>>> immediately to �chart a bold course of real reform� for the country.
>> Makes sense, you seem worried though....

> I am, because this is a two party system and one cannot seem to pull
> it's collective heads out of their collective asses. Like one boss
> said, when I couldn't do an aspect of the job, he said to wait in the
> truck.

Wise up, the two demographics showing growth of late are independents
and republicans.

Only the Demo-leftists are losing voters.

> I would have been more of an asset if I could have done the job the
> way it was supposed to be done. The politics of Republicans are only
> to attack Democrats and serve big business, if that doesn't change the
> Republican party will continue to fail the people.

Useless bullshit.

The politics of the Demo-marxists are to promote socialism and serve the
  guilt complex needs of old money rich fucks and nouveau riche guilty
conscience Hollywierdos.

 > Heck these right-

> wingers are to stupid to realize that the Republican party doesn't
> even represent them to make that change, even when they are told that
> by their power politicians.

Um....the reason McCain is up there is because many R's looked more to
center.

We got sick of the RR contingent.

Deal.

> I will accept them falling into complete irrelevance if thats what
> they continue to choose to do.

I submit is is the Ds that are far more in danger of becoming extinct.

Obambam's or Billary's absurd tax policies can only submarine this
nation in the midst of an energy crisis.

Couple that with a pre-announced  Iraq retreat and al Qaeda moving on
Iraq's oil fields, you just have a recipe for a global oil war.

And YOU morons will have kicked it off, you fools....

I don't think you'll have any voters for a decade or more after that
happens.

Idiots.


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Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 07:12:07 -0500
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Subject: Re: GOP Leaders Warn Of Election Disaster
"Bas Mati" <w...@rice.cook> wrote in message

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> Wise up, the two demographics showing growth of late are independents and
> republicans.

A third demo is the Dems.
This election cycle - across the board - people are getting more involved.

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Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 17:12:50 GMT
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> "Bas Mati" <w...@rice.cook> wrote in message
> news:JVuVj.249217$i_6.120059@fe06.news.easynews.com...

>> Wise up, the two demographics showing growth of late are independents
>> and republicans.

> A third demo is the Dems.

Nope, their registered voter numbers have steadily declined.

Stop lying.


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Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 10:40:12 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: GOP Leaders Warn Of Election Disaster
On May 10, 9:05 pm, monkey_cart...@yahoo.com wrote:

After 40 years of being a Democrat and voting for the Party I
switched.  The Democrat went too far to the left for me.  I don't
think I was alone.
"You can't win a the election with only egg-heads and African -
Americans."-Paul "the forehead" Begala.

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Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 10:47:33 -0700 (PDT)
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On May 11, 5:12 am, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:

> "Bas Mati" <w...@rice.cook> wrote in message

> news:JVuVj.249217$i_6.120059@fe06.news.easynews.com...

> > Wise up, the two demographics showing growth of late are independents and
> > republicans.

> A third demo is the Dems.
> This election cycle - across the board - people are getting more involved.

The pundits tell us that before every election.  The last time it was
called "Rock the Vote."  There were numerous rock concerts where
thousands of fans cheered and yelled.  When it came time to vote; they
forgot.
This time it will be different.  Yeah, sure.

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