Hello All, Since there is main problem in cc which is *the need for standardization*. I hope to work in this problem, does anyone know how can I start in it?
-- Eman Hossny, Teacher Assistant, Computer Science Department, Faculty of Computers and Information Cairo University, Egypt
Hello Eman,
You can start looking the information available on the sites of ENISA, Cloud security alliance, Open Cloud Manifesto and NIST. There you can have an idea of the current status of this topic and can have more new ideas.
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Subject: [CCUS 1398] how to make standardization in CC
Hello All,
Since there is main problem in cc which is *the need for standardization*.
I hope to work in this problem, does anyone know how can I start in it?
-- Eman Hossny,
Teacher Assistant,
Computer Science Department,
Faculty of Computers and Information
Cairo University, Egypt
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> Hello All, > Since there is main problem in cc which is the need for standardization. > I hope to work in this problem, does anyone know how can I start in it?
> -- > Eman Hossny, > Teacher Assistant, > Computer Science Department, > Faculty of Computers and Information > Cairo University, Egypt
> يارب العتق من النار لى ولوالديا > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cloud Computing Use Cases" group. > To post to this group, send email to cloud-computing-use-cases@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cloud-computing-use-cases+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cloud-computing-use-cases?hl=en.
Allow me to also suggest participation in and study of materials from the Open Grid Forum (http://www.ogf.org). OGF is very active in Cloud Computing standards, with popular items such as its Open Cloud Computing Interface (OCCI) and service agreement document standardization through recently released WS-Agreement and WS-Agreement Negotiation.
All of these have many open-source and commercial implementations and provide a good window into cloud standardization. The groups are open to all and OGF has an open IPR. OCCI is getting a lot of uptake, built into Open Nebula and many other implementations beginning to be available in other languages.
> Hello Eman, > You can start looking the information available on the sites of ENISA, Cloud security alliance, Open Cloud Manifesto and NIST. > There you can have an idea of the current status of this topic and can have more new ideas.
> Best regards, > Paola > Enviado desde mi BlackBerry de Claro. > From: Eman Hossny <e.hos...@gmail.com> > Sender: cloud-computing-use-cases@googlegroups.com > Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:07:32 +0200 > To: <cloud-computing-use-cases@googlegroups.com> > ReplyTo: cloud-computing-use-cases@googlegroups.com > Subject: [CCUS 1398] how to make standardization in CC
> Hello All, > Since there is main problem in cc which is the need for standardization. > I hope to work in this problem, does anyone know how can I start in it?
> -- > Eman Hossny, > Teacher Assistant, > Computer Science Department, > Faculty of Computers and Information > Cairo University, Egypt
Hi Eman, My name is Ehab Amin. I am subscribed to this group so I can enforce my knowledge with Cloud computing. I don't have any documentations that could help, but I can tell you from my 13 years of IT experience what goes into people's mind when you first tell them about cloud computing. Same with Policies and regulations.
I am looking forward to hearing from you. I hope all is well in Egypt.
Regards, -Ehab Amin Global Information Technology BNP Paribas IP 646 401 4017
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On Nov 10, 2011, at 5:07 AM, Eman Hossny <e.hos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello All, > Since there is main problem in cc which is the need for standardization. > I hope to work in this problem, does anyone know how can I start in it?
> -- > Eman Hossny, > Teacher Assistant, > Computer Science Department, > Faculty of Computers and Information > Cairo University, Egypt
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many thanks Paola for ur replay. since u recommended to me to see Cloud security alliance, did the standardization problem has relationship with cc security problem?
> ** > Hello Eman, > You can start looking the information available on the sites of ENISA, > Cloud security alliance, Open Cloud Manifesto and NIST. > There you can have an idea of the current status of this topic and can > have more new ideas.
> Best regards, > Paola > Enviado desde mi BlackBerry de Claro. > ------------------------------ > *From: * Eman Hossny <e.hos...@gmail.com> > *Sender: * cloud-computing-use-cases@googlegroups.com > *Date: *Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:07:32 +0200 > *To: *<cloud-computing-use-cases@googlegroups.com> > *ReplyTo: * cloud-computing-use-cases@googlegroups.com > *Subject: *[CCUS 1398] how to make standardization in CC
> Hello All, > Since there is main problem in cc which is *the need for standardization*. > I hope to work in this problem, does anyone know how can I start in it?
> -- > Eman Hossny, > Teacher Assistant, > Computer Science Department, > Faculty of Computers and Information > Cairo University, Egypt
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-- Eman Hossny, Teacher Assistant, Computer Science Department, Faculty of Computers and Information Cairo University, Egypt
Dear Rizwan, thank u for ur interest. Actually, I'm new to CC & hear that there are lack of standardization in the CC, so I hope to research in this problem.
> On 10/11/2011, at 11:07 PM, Eman Hossny <e.hos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello All, > Since there is main problem in cc which is *the need for standardization*. > I hope to work in this problem, does anyone know how can I start in it?
> -- > Eman Hossny, > Teacher Assistant, > Computer Science Department, > Faculty of Computers and Information > Cairo University, Egypt
> يارب العتق من النار لى ولوالديا
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-- Eman Hossny, Teacher Assistant, Computer Science Department, Faculty of Computers and Information Cairo University, Egypt
Lot of groups are working towards this. However if you wish to work , the way out could be .. a,. Pick up a domain e.g Identity mgmt or security or SLA b. find the component of these which requires standardisation. then write about it taking into considerations market , effect of this on working and legal issues.
another way could be Pick up a service e.g cloud for medical data use and write the compliance standards fo this.
> Hello All, > Since there is main problem in cc which is *the need for standardization*. > I hope to work in this problem, does anyone know how can I start in it?
> -- > Eman Hossny, > Teacher Assistant, > Computer Science Department, > Faculty of Computers and Information > Cairo University, Egypt
> يارب العتق من النار لى ولوالديا
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Hello Mani, many thanks for ur replay. I see from ur replay that security also need standardization, is this true? Is the research in the standardization problem need to be under the control of one of the big companies such as IBM,... or under the control of IEEE for example? I'm a pre-PhD student & hope to find green point in the CC
> Lot of groups are working towards this. However if you wish to work , > the way out could be .. > a,. Pick up a domain e.g Identity mgmt or security or SLA > b. find the component of these which requires standardisation. then write > about it taking into considerations market , effect of this on working and > legal issues.
> another way could be Pick up a service e.g cloud for medical data use > and write the compliance standards fo this.
>> Hello All, >> Since there is main problem in cc which is *the need for standardization* >> . >> I hope to work in this problem, does anyone know how can I start in it?
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-- Eman Hossny, Teacher Assistant, Computer Science Department, Faculty of Computers and Information Cairo University, Egypt
Its not about the security but every component related to Cloud Computing that needs standardization. Foreg. the SNIA association has just introduced the Storage standards for Cloud Storage called Cloud Data Management Interface. In the same way standard needs to be written down for other components like security, platform etc.
Yes, you are absolutely right that unless a big vendor like IBM doesn't introduce these standards, the effect will be very less. But more research on these means more products will be developed based on one's standards and when/if the products will give the optimal performance, security and other necessary effects, the vendors will be forced automatically to introduce the standards of Cloud Computing in the market.
> Hello Mani, > many thanks for ur replay. I see from ur replay that security also need > standardization, is this true? > Is the research in the standardization problem need to be under the > control of one of the big companies such as IBM,... or under the control of > IEEE for example? > I'm a pre-PhD student & hope to find green point in the CC
>> Lot of groups are working towards this. However if you wish to work , >> the way out could be .. >> a,. Pick up a domain e.g Identity mgmt or security or SLA >> b. find the component of these which requires standardisation. then >> write about it taking into considerations market , effect of this on >> working and legal issues.
>> another way could be Pick up a service e.g cloud for medical data use >> and write the compliance standards fo this.
>>> Hello All, >>> Since there is main problem in cc which is *the need for standardization >>> *. >>> I hope to work in this problem, does anyone know how can I start in it?
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> -- > Eman Hossny, > Teacher Assistant, > Computer Science Department, > Faculty of Computers and Information > Cairo University, Egypt
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> Its not about the security but every component related to Cloud Computing > that needs standardization. Foreg. the SNIA association has just introduced > the Storage standards for Cloud Storage called Cloud Data Management > Interface. In the same way standard needs to be written down for other > components like security, platform etc.
> Yes, you are absolutely right that unless a big vendor like IBM doesn't > introduce these standards, the effect will be very less. But more research > on these means more products will be developed based on one's standards and > when/if the products will give the optimal performance, security and other > necessary effects, the vendors will be forced automatically to introduce > the standards of Cloud Computing in the market.
>> Hello Mani, >> many thanks for ur replay. I see from ur replay that security also need >> standardization, is this true? >> Is the research in the standardization problem need to be under the >> control of one of the big companies such as IBM,... or under the control of >> IEEE for example? >> I'm a pre-PhD student & hope to find green point in the CC
>>> Lot of groups are working towards this. However if you wish to work , >>> the way out could be .. >>> a,. Pick up a domain e.g Identity mgmt or security or SLA >>> b. find the component of these which requires standardisation. then >>> write about it taking into considerations market , effect of this on >>> working and legal issues.
>>> another way could be Pick up a service e.g cloud for medical data >>> use and write the compliance standards fo this.
>>> Hope it helps. >>> best regards >>> M S Prasad
>>>> Hello All, >>>> Since there is main problem in cc which is *the need for >>>> standardization*. >>>> I hope to work in this problem, does anyone know how can I start in it?
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>> -- >> Eman Hossny, >> Teacher Assistant, >> Computer Science Department, >> Faculty of Computers and Information >> Cairo University, Egypt
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-- Eman Hossny, Teacher Assistant, Computer Science Department, Faculty of Computers and Information Cairo University, Egypt
I know this thread isn't recent but some people might find these references handy. Since cloud standardisation is quite fast moving realm, you need to see what's available out there right now.
> Hello All, > Since there is main problem in cc which is the need for standardization. > I hope to work in this problem, does anyone know how can I start in it?
> -- > Eman Hossny, > Teacher Assistant, > Computer Science Department, > Faculty of Computers and Information > Cairo University, Egypt
> يارب العتق من النار لى ولوالديا
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