Clojure Conference Poll
dysinger
(probably in the fall). One question I would like to ask is, given
the conference is probably going to be a 2-day conference, would you
rather have it during the week or weekend ?
I would think a weekend (meet & greet friday night, saturday & sunday)
would work good.
-Tim
Sean Devlin
answers.
Sean
Chouser
> What coast are you thinking? That will probably affect a lot of
> answers.
Why not compromise and have it in Indianapolis?
Not getting my hopes up,
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Sean Devlin
On Jan 22, 1:15 pm, Chouser <chou...@gmail.com> wrote:
Richard Newman
> answers.
Agreed. I'm flexible enough to go during the week (which frees up my
weekend!), but I imagine that's not the case for most.
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jeremey
really be in Houston (warm, great food, great bars). :)
Jeremey.
ataggart
> +1 for weekend. Everyone is probably thinking Bay Area, but it should
> really be in Houston (warm, great food, great bars). :)
>
> Jeremey.
You misspelled "Austin". ;)
Fogus
most logical locale. (hopes someone buys this line of reasoning)
-m
Sean Devlin
central wrt the big cities :)
Wilson MacGyver
exotic location.
Otherwise, hey, Columbus Ohio is as good as any other city. :)
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Luc Prefontaine
in the Montreal area, I am not fan of the west coast...
Travelling by plane these times is painful enough, spending more time
in these flying cans is not my first choice.
If it could be held near a big flight hub accessible in one hop would
be great.
I guess central time areas more or less would be a good compromise for
everyone.
As for great bars, the look does not matter too much after a few
drinks :)))
Luc
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thearthur
going to encounter the lease work related conflicts. a Friday-to-
Saturday conference would be a potential compromise allowing people to
only take thursday-friday off work and still be back on Monday.
as far as choosing a location, a better question would be "where do
you live"
jwhitlark
to me) conference, that you consider a tutorial day on Friday, and
perhaps even sprints for after the conference. I've gotten a great
deal out of that format at Pycon, over the years.
~J
Pratik Patel
Location: Atlanta - Cheap facilities, direct flights for most everyone
in the *world*, easier for Euro folks to make it here, and great BBQ.
Days of week: It would be great to have it on Thurs afternoon/Fri/Sat
Date: late Sept, early Oct
Sessions: Day1: Beginner tracks & tools Day 2: Clojure ecosystem
(compojure, etc); Clojure hackfest. Day 3: Advanced clojure
(internals); Hackfest continues.
Beer and discussions in the evenings.
-p
Konrad Hinsen
> I vote let's turn this into a clojure vacation, and hold it in an
> exotic location.
>
> Otherwise, hey, Columbus Ohio is as good as any other city. :)
My vote is for Paris, France :-)
Konrad.
Mark Engelberg
Christophe Grand
+1 :-)
Edmund
On Jan 23, 8:53 am, Christophe Grand <christo...@cgrand.net> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Konrad Hinsen
>
Boštjan Jerko
I'd say +1 for Paris, but I guess Clojure Conference Europe would be nice :D
B.
Adrian Cuthbertson
>> >> exotic location.
Well, how about Johannesburg or Cape Town. Sort of equidistant from
the US, Europe, Asia and Aus. Also if you wait a month or two you can
get to watch a soccer (footie) match or three as well :).
Heinz N. Gies
I had a horrible french teacher! Please not paris :P then again it's closer then the US Wherever it is there :P. How about Berlin? It's wonderful here ;).
But for being serious if we pull something here in europe I would belive the UK would likely be the best place since at least all of us on the list speak english and won't have too much trouble to get along there ;)
In the US I would say something on the east cost would be best, DS, NY, stuff which is easy to reach for us europeans, after all if any of us manage to attend we'll have 11+h of flight even if it's on the eastcost, having it back on the other side makes this what 15+? I'm not sure never took that route yet.
Best regards,
Heinz.
PS: We've great bear and sausages in germany!
Laurent PETIT
Brent Millare
maybe Boston area is OK too.
On Jan 22, 12:36 pm, dysinger <t...@dysinger.net> wrote:
Chad Harrington
We will be organizing a conference in the next month for 2010
(probably in the fall). One question I would like to ask is, given
the conference is probably going to be a 2-day conference, would you
rather have it during the week or weekend ?
I would think a weekend (meet & greet friday night, saturday & sunday)
would work good.
-Tim
Garth Sheldon-Coulson
Jeff Schwab
Seth
Where: DC, Boston, NY, San Fran
Who: at least one, probably more
Newsgroups are such a painful way to vote on things. Google Wave or
some other wiki-like thing would make it much easier to aggregate
everyone's input.
Amit Rathore
ok folks, we need some more real opinions... :)
we're thinking it will be in the Bay Area, some time during early
fall. weekend seems logical from the responses so far...
as far as pricing goes, how does something in the $199 range sound? we
can probably add a tutorial day Friday for a small additional cost,
say $149...? we can certainly have some well-known clojurians conduct
the tutorials, I'm sure we'll have plenty of real world clojure
experience in the house...
thoughts?
On Jan 23, 12:34 pm, Laurent PETIT <laurent.pe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 :-)
>
> 2010/1/23 Konrad Hinsen <konrad.hin...@fastmail.net>:
Richard Newman
> can probably add a tutorial day Friday for a small additional cost,
> say $149...? we can certainly have some well-known clojurians conduct
> the tutorials, I'm sure we'll have plenty of real world clojure
> experience in the house...
Sounds very reasonable (though from talking to organizers of other
conferences I'd be careful about committing to prices like that until
you figure out how much the space and catering are going to cost…).
Early-bird registration for ILC 2009 was $210, with standard
registration $250. The event had sponsors.
Tim Dysinger
Amit Rathore
Agreed - I'm not committing to anything right now, just throwing out
what we might target, if those numbers sounds reasonable to people.
Like Tim said, our goal is to keep costs low, so we can keep the price
low.
Regards,
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Matt Revelle
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Days of week: Any, suggest Fri-Sat
There seem to be at least an equal (probably greater) number of east
coast Clojure users in North America and the east coast is an easier
destination for any European attendees.
I'm happy to help with any additional planning and preparation work.
Joop Kiefte
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In all seriousness, it does act as a pretty central location in the
midwest region IMO.
Raju
On Jan 22, 4:15 pm, Wilson MacGyver <wmacgy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I vote let's turn this into a clojure vacation, and hold it in an
> exotic location.
>
> Otherwise, hey, Columbus Ohio is as good as any other city. :)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Sean Devlin <francoisdev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Clearly you haven't taken into account that Philadelphia is more
> > central wrt the big cities :)
>
> > On Jan 22, 3:32 pm, Fogus <mefo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Since Clojure is clearly an East-Coast language, I suggest DC as the
> >> most logical locale. (hopes someone buys this line of reasoning)
>
> >> -m
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ianp
really cool locations.
Cheers,
Ian.
Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
I vote for Bangalore, India. :-)
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cburroughs
conference should be on a weekend to permit attendance for those with
work conflicts. A suggestion that I recall seeing a while ago was to
dovetail
ICFP 2010 <http://www.icfpconference.org/>. That would be late
September in the DC/Baltimore area.
caljunior
> ok folks, we need some more real opinions... :)
> we're thinking it will be in the Bay Area, some time during early
> fall. weekend seems logical from the responses so far...
I've only counted two votes for the Bay Area as a first choice so far
in this thread and one of these two actually preferred Portland :-).
The majority seems to prefer the East Coast.
Is this of any consequence or are these not "real opinions"? Did you
check with Rich?
It seems for users the East Coast would be best, for marketing the Bay
Area probably has a bigger spin-off. Depends on the organisers' agenda
I guess.
Zach Tellman
On Jan 24, 12:44 am, Chad Harrington <chad.harring...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> - Friday / Saturday
> - SF Bay Area
>
> Chad Harrington
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 9:36 AM, dysinger <t...@dysinger.net> wrote:
> > We will be organizing a conference in the next month for 2010
> > (probably in the fall). One question I would like to ask is, given
> > the conference is probably going to be a 2-day conference, would you
> > rather have it during the week or weekend ?
>
> > I would think a weekend (meet & greet friday night, saturday & sunday)
> > would work good.
>
> > -Tim
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Luc Préfontaine
Add to this 2 days in Montreal to overcome the jet lag for such a short trip (4/5 days).
Not enough time to sync my internal clock with the time zone out there in such a short stay.
What about folks in Europe then ? It's gonna be even harder for them, they will have to switch
upside down and their travel time will increase significantly.
I still think that some central US flight hub should be the first choice to accommodate everyone and
keep travel times reasonable... Chicago ? Minneapolis ?
Luc
Richard Newman
> in this thread and one of these two actually preferred Portland :-).
> The majority seems to prefer the East Coast.
I'd prefer the Bay Area personally. I simply didn't feel it was worth
voicing, because the "I prefer my home town" messages are not the best
way to do this.
There are three ways to figure out where to host a conference:
* Figure out where people are, and choose a location that amortizes
the cost of travel over everyone. In this case, that might be the
Midwest or the east coast, largely because of the Canadians and
Europeans who might fly out. This is nominally fair, but is only a
good solution for the guy in Ohio :)
* Figure out where people are, and choose a location that allows the
majority to not have to fly. Judging by the 30-80 attendees at the Bay
Area Clojure meetups, that would be "Mountain View" (perhaps the
Computer History Museum). This has merit: after all, the people
getting on a plane to fly for 7 hours are already flying
internationally; might as well make it 11 hours. (I'm very familiar
with this, having moved from the UK to California a few years ago.)
Heck, if you pick the right location, set up LiveMeeting or something;
if it's too far to fly, videoconference.
* Realize that a lot of people will have to travel anyway, and let the
organizers pick based on personal bias. They're doing the work of
organizing, so I don't begrudge them choosing… how are they going to
visit venues if they organize a conference a thousand miles away?!
Tim Dysinger
I think we know that a big city with direct flights from most anywhere (including from Europe) is good. We (the conference organizers) have people on the ground in both SF Bay and New England areas. We'll find something that works for the majority. We have a call scheduled to discuss further this evening.
We'll make it as easy as possible on everyone to get to the event and keep the cost as low as we can. We'll do it on a weekend + maybe a friday tutorial day (common format).
More to follow...
mudphone
On Jan 22, 11:54 pm, Konrad Hinsen <konrad.hin...@fastmail.net> wrote:
> On 22 Jan 2010, at 22:15, Wilson MacGyver wrote:
>
> > I vote let's turn this into a clojure vacation, and hold it in an
> > exotic location.
>
> > Otherwise, hey, Columbus Ohio is as good as any other city. :)
>
> My vote is for Paris, France :-)
>
> Konrad.
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Clojure vacation + Friday tutorial
On Jan 22, 2010 12:36pm, dysinger <t...@dysinger.net> wrote:
> We will be organizing a conference in the next month for 2010
>
> (probably in the fall). One question I would like to ask is, given
>
> the conference is probably going to be a 2-day conference, would you
>
> rather have it during the week or weekend ?
>
>
>
> I would think a weekend (meet & greet friday night, saturday & sunday)
>
> would work good.
>
>
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
Michel Vollebregt
Julien
will probably get good attendance.
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David Cabana
Conrad
On Jan 26, 7:20 pm, David Cabana <drcab...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 DC
Nuno Marques
Nuno
Boštjan Jerko
> What about colocating this conference with say OOPSLA (or ECOOP). You
> will probably get good attendance.
>
If it'd be part of ECOOP it'd be great since in 2010 it's in Slovenia (and I live there :D).
B.
Jeff Schwab
> +1 Lincoln/Omaha Nebraska. :)
Mr. Buffet? Is that you? Have you, too, decided to invest in Clojure?
eyeris
you guys in the fall! :)
I would prefer it during the week.
On Jan 22, 3:15 pm, Wilson MacGyver <wmacgy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I vote let's turn this into a clojure vacation, and hold it in an
> exotic location.
>
> Otherwise, hey, Columbus Ohio is as good as any other city. :)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Sean Devlin <francoisdev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Clearly you haven't taken into account that Philadelphia is more
> > central wrt the big cities :)
>
> > On Jan 22, 3:32 pm, Fogus <mefo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Since Clojure is clearly an East-Coast language, I suggest DC as the
> >> most logical locale. (hopes someone buys this line of reasoning)
>
> >> -m
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Luc
Luc Préfontaine
Rich Hickey
On Jan 25, 3:49 pm, Tim Dysinger <t...@dysinger.net> wrote:
> I think I should have started this poll off the maillist :(. I think we can
> stop now.
>
> I think we know that a big city with direct flights from most anywhere
> (including from Europe) is good. We (the conference organizers) have people
> on the ground in both SF Bay and New England areas. We'll find something
> that works for the majority. We have a call scheduled to discuss further
> this evening.
>
> We'll make it as easy as possible on everyone to get to the event and keep
> the cost as low as we can. We'll do it on a weekend + maybe a friday
> tutorial day (common format).
>
> More to follow...
>
>
Oracle just announced Java One in San Francisco from September 19-23,
2010
http://www.oracle.com/technology/community/sun-oracle-community-continuity.html
Rich
liebke
> 2010
Despite my preference for an east coast conference (and my limited
interest in JavaOne), I think it makes a lot of sense to have the
ClojureConj start on the Friday after JavaOne.
David
> http://www.oracle.com/technology/community/sun-oracle-community-conti...
>
> Rich
Sean Devlin
ataggart
On Jan 27, 9:59 am, Luc Préfontaine <lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca>
wrote:
Paul Nakata
Matt Revelle
> > 2010
>
> Despite my preference for an east coast conference (and my limited
> interest in JavaOne), I think it makes a lot of sense to have the
> ClojureConj start on the Friday after JavaOne.
>
> David
>
Conference alignment is smart, but to which conference? I suppose it
depends on whether the conference organizers prefer to convenience the
audience of JavaOne or ICFP. I'm unfamiliar with what sort of folks
go to JavaOne, I'd imagine many of them aren't familiar with Clojure
and wouldn't be interested in paying (or convincing their employers to
pay) to attend the conference.
Not that there would be problem with attendance in SF (hard to imagine
any place that provides a larger local CS audience), but not sure
JavaOne conversion would be high.
-Matt
Richard Newman
> depends on whether the conference organizers prefer to convenience the
> audience of JavaOne or ICFP. I'm unfamiliar with what sort of folks
> go to JavaOne, I'd imagine many of them aren't familiar with Clojure
> and wouldn't be interested in paying (or convincing their employers to
> pay) to attend the conference.
I attended JavaOne last year, primarily for SailFin and Clojure. It's
*huge*. There was interest for Clojure, but there are also aisles upon
aisles of awful middleware/reporting software brokers.
If I wasn't sponsored to go, I wouldn't have paid for it. I imagine
the overlap for ICFP and ILC (which isn't happening again until 2011)
would be a higher percentage, if not a higher absolute figure due to
the huge size of JavaOne.
Whether most of the JavaOne co-attendees would actually be 'genuine'
Clojurites in the making, or just Java drones looking for fresh
buzzwords, I can't say.
Luc Préfontaine
Since this thread started, everyone has been saying that bars in their neighbourhood are the best.
Still wondering if this conference is only a motive to get drunk for a few days :)))
Luc
Amit Rathore
special Bay Area Clojure meetup following it, and it was our biggest
ever (around 80 people). Of course, that was because Rich was there.
Tim and I are having another discussion over the weekend, we'll keep
you all posted...
Mike T. Miller
year.
-mike
liebke
David
Rick Moynihan
R.