Re: [clipperz] Multi-user functionality?

[Jason Schmidt]

Hi Michelle, here has been my experience with Clipperz when shared between multiple people. Your mileage may vary, take with a grain of salt, and things may have changed under the hood since I last shared an account with a group :-)

If most people only need to read secure information most of the time, then Clipperz works very well. That is to say, if you don't often make changes to the passwords, then multiple people can easily use the same Clipperz account at the same time.

If your employees will all need to be writing/changing data, though, it gets a bit more tricky. Each Clipperz account has one encrypted set of headers. This is the list that points to the specific detail records. Everything is encrypted, but because there is this one primary/parent record, only one person can save at a time, and after one person saves everyone else must refresh before making and saving their own changes. Forgetting can lead to failed saves (or worse yet, corrupt data, though that's only happened to me once). There are some ways of mitigating this, though:

There's no limit to the number of Clipperz accounts you can have with either (1) the same username or (2) the same password. Because you'll have to share the Clipperz username/password with your employees for them to have access anyway, you can specify a naming scheme that everyone understands. For example, if every client has a number in a management system, your Clipperz usernames might be "mycompany-1" through "mycompany-20" for your 20 vendors, all with the same secure password. That way someone who saves changes to "mycompany-13" won't step on the toes of someone else saving changes to "mycompany-7".

You can also have one account with one person in charge of saving changes, and everyone else uses an offline copy. This has the advantages of providing a very fast offline version, encouraging backups, and making sure more than one person are aware of changes that are occurring.

If any/all of the above sounds too complex or problematic for you, then Clipperz may not be the best option for your group, but I encourage you to try it out! Despite the above, I've personally found Clipperz to be very usable with small groups.

No matter what software you decide to use in the end, remember to keep regular backups, because lost data really stings. Data can be lost by people deleting the wrong record, overwriting a password before it's successfully changed in the remote system, etc, which is a problem that any/all password managers can have.

I hope you enjoy Clipperz as much as I have!

-Jason

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On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:03 PM, <mcoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have a small office, four employees.  We need a single cloud location to store all the passwords related for the business that all employees need to use.  (Not specifically financial-type ones, but for an example, we have about 20 vendor sites where various employees at various times will log in to place orders, check status, update item prices, etc.)  Plus all the other general-type passwords that are used in the office.  Many of the employees work from home or via tablets and smart phones.  I need a single location to view and update.  Is Clipperz the answer for us?

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[Marco Barulli]

Hi Jason,
that's a very interesting and detailed use case. Thanks! :)

We hear you! We are definitely going to implement sharing soon (really).
The way we envision sharing will allow much easier cooperation between
coworkers and family members. Probably not suitable for larger
environments.

Best,
Marco

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[Indolering]

....Probably not suitable for larger environments. 


Best,
Marco

For most open-source companies the consumer product is just a feeder for corporate services. I can see not trying to go for a contract with Microsoft, but these are the clients that will pay money.  I can understand if it's just more complex and you need time to roll it out but I would find it odd if you aren't focusing on this client base ...

[Marco Barulli]

During the year we received several enquiries from companies looking
for a password manager.
We've been pondering a "workgroup edition" explicitly targeting
business clients for a very long time.

But in the end we decided not to pursue this goal. The main reasons were:
- custom development efforts for supporting integrations with legacy
directory services (LDAP, ...)
- the need for a proper sales team team

Both were beyond the reach of our resources.
So, I'm not saying it's a bad idea in itself, but it's not in our DNA.

Moreover, I believe open source projects need to speak more directly
to their user base and build a relationship that could include direct
financial support.

"You may say I'm a dreamer ..." :)

Marco

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