Love your product and concept. But would like to get gamma running on our own servers. What exactly is required to upgrade the backend for this? This could be PHP (which looks easier, because that is the bulk of your work). But Python would be preferred (and not the app engine, but say, something like Django).
Any pointers, hints, tips or traps would be appreciated! And I will be happy to share any work done on this with the project.
> Love your product and concept. But would like to get gamma running on > our own servers. What exactly is required to upgrade the backend for this?
> This could be PHP (which looks easier, because that is the bulk of > your work). But Python would be preferred (and not the app engine, but > say, something like Django).
> Any pointers, hints, tips or traps would be appreciated! And I will be > happy to share any work done on this with the project.
> David.
As far as I understand it, the problem is that there is currently only 1 backend defined but the 2 frontends require different messaging protocols. I think the way forward would be to upgrade the beta frontend to use the same messaging protocol as the gamma frontend and make the php backend match that. That is my 0.02
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If this is true, how does the demo system currently work? How different is the demo PHP from the CE PHP? Would the authors consider releasing the demo PHP?
On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:52:55 PM UTC-4, Josh wrote:
> On 07/10/2012 08:14 PM, DavidG wrote: > > Hi -
> > Love your product and concept. But would like to get gamma running on > > our own servers. What exactly is required to upgrade the backend for > this? > > This could be PHP (which looks easier, because that is the bulk of > > your work). But Python would be preferred (and not the app engine, but > > say, something like Django).
> > Any pointers, hints, tips or traps would be appreciated! And I will be > > happy to share any work done on this with the project.
> > David.
> As far as I understand it, the problem is that there is currently only 1 > backend defined but the 2 frontends require different messaging > protocols. I think the way forward would be to upgrade the beta > frontend to use the same messaging protocol as the gamma frontend and > make the php backend match that. That is my 0.02
> Hope this helps, > josh > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Clipperz" group. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/clipperz/-/GEu0P8rwdGUJ. > > To post to this group, send email to clipperz@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > clipperz+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/clipperz?hl=en.
> If this is true, how does the demo system currently work? How > different is the demo PHP from the CE PHP? Would the authors consider > releasing the demo PHP?
You mean clipperz.com? They use a different backend.
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:52:55 PM UTC-4, Josh wrote:
> On 07/10/2012 08:14 PM, DavidG wrote:
> > Hi -
> > Love your product and concept. But would like to get gamma
> running on
> > our own servers. What exactly is required to upgrade the backend
> for this?
> > This could be PHP (which looks easier, because that is the bulk of
> > your work). But Python would be preferred (and not the app
> engine, but
> > say, something like Django).
> > Any pointers, hints, tips or traps would be appreciated! And I
> will be
> > happy to share any work done on this with the project.
> > David.
> As far as I understand it, the problem is that there is currently
> only 1
> backend defined but the 2 frontends require different messaging
> protocols. I think the way forward would be to upgrade the beta
> frontend to use the same messaging protocol as the gamma frontend and
> make the php backend match that. That is my 0.02
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I can confirm that clipperz.com uses a different backend (Java + PostgreSQL).
The code currently available on GitHub has been changed to allow both
/beta and /gamma frontend to use the PHP backend. It has not been
fully tested, but should work.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Josh <joka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 07/10/2012 09:45 PM, DavidG wrote:
> If this is true, how does the demo system currently work? How different is
> the demo PHP from the CE PHP? Would the authors consider releasing the demo
> PHP?
> You mean clipperz.com? They use a different backend.
> -josh
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:52:55 PM UTC-4, Josh wrote:
>> On 07/10/2012 08:14 PM, DavidG wrote:
>> > Hi -
>> > Love your product and concept. But would like to get gamma running on
>> > our own servers. What exactly is required to upgrade the backend for
>> > this?
>> > This could be PHP (which looks easier, because that is the bulk of
>> > your work). But Python would be preferred (and not the app engine, but
>> > say, something like Django).
>> > Any pointers, hints, tips or traps would be appreciated! And I will be
>> > happy to share any work done on this with the project.
>> > David.
>> As far as I understand it, the problem is that there is currently only 1
>> backend defined but the 2 frontends require different messaging
>> protocols. I think the way forward would be to upgrade the beta
>> frontend to use the same messaging protocol as the gamma frontend and
>> make the php backend match that. That is my 0.02
>> Hope this helps,
>> josh
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Thanks. I guess I was wondering if you guys would consider releasing the code for clipperz.com - at least we all would have a reference version that works (even if in java and postgres).
I tried (only minimally) to get the gamma working with PHP last night. But it didn't seem to work. Certain resources were not at the right places, and the javascript was all messed up. I can give you more details if you want. From the documentation, I was led to believe it wouldn't work at all, so was merely experimenting. But it would be nice to get the gamma running.
On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:43:59 AM UTC-4, Giulio Cesare Solaroli wrote:
> David,
> I can confirm that clipperz.com uses a different backend (Java + > PostgreSQL).
> The code currently available on GitHub has been changed to allow both > /beta and /gamma frontend to use the PHP backend. It has not been > fully tested, but should work.
> Best regards,
> Giulio Cesare
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Josh <x...@gmail.com <joka...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > On 07/10/2012 09:45 PM, DavidG wrote:
> > If this is true, how does the demo system currently work? How different > is > > the demo PHP from the CE PHP? Would the authors consider releasing the > demo > > PHP?
> > You mean clipperz.com? They use a different backend.
> > -josh
> > On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:52:55 PM UTC-4, Josh wrote:
> >> On 07/10/2012 08:14 PM, DavidG wrote: > >> > Hi -
> >> > Love your product and concept. But would like to get gamma running on > >> > our own servers. What exactly is required to upgrade the backend for > >> > this? > >> > This could be PHP (which looks easier, because that is the bulk of > >> > your work). But Python would be preferred (and not the app engine, > but > >> > say, something like Django).
> >> > Any pointers, hints, tips or traps would be appreciated! And I will > be > >> > happy to share any work done on this with the project.
> >> > David.
> >> As far as I understand it, the problem is that there is currently only > 1 > >> backend defined but the 2 frontends require different messaging > >> protocols. I think the way forward would be to upgrade the beta > >> frontend to use the same messaging protocol as the gamma frontend and > >> make the php backend match that. That is my 0.02
> >> Hope this helps, > >> josh > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups "Clipperz" group. > >> > To view this discussion on the web visit > >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/clipperz/-/GEu0P8rwdGUJ. > >> > To post to this group, send email to clipperz@googlegroups.com. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > clipperz+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >> > For more options, visit this group at > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/clipperz?hl=en.
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:47 PM, DavidG <dgel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Giulio,
> Thanks. I guess I was wondering if you guys would consider releasing the
> code for clipperz.com - at least we all would have a reference version that
> works (even if in java and postgres).
We don't have any plan to release the Java/PostgreSQL backend.
The PHP version was an intermediate step to help developers interested
in understanding and evolving Clipperz codebase to be able to actually
execute the code.
> I tried (only minimally) to get the gamma working with PHP last night. But
> it didn't seem to work. Certain resources were not at the right places, and
> the javascript was all messed up. I can give you more details if you want.
I admit that I have not build/deployed the full PHP backend lately,
but I am quite confident that it was possible to build it.
I have also integrated some patches (mostly by Josh:
https://github.com/jokajak) to cleanup the new build scripts for the
project layout.
> From the documentation, I was led to believe it wouldn't work at all, so was
> merely experimenting. But it would be nice to get the gamma running.
If you try a little harder, it should work. :)
If this is not the case, please share details on what is failing here
on the forum.
OK, trying gamma with PHP on localhost (Ubuntu, latest Chrome). No javascript errors in the console that I can see. Here is a screenshot of what I get when I try to create a new account by clicking on the "Create Account" button. (The home screen comes up perfectly).
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:51:24 AM UTC-4, Giulio Cesare Solaroli wrote:
> Hell David,
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:47 PM, DavidG wrote: > > Giulio,
> > Thanks. I guess I was wondering if you guys would consider releasing the > > code for clipperz.com - at least we all would have a reference version > that > > works (even if in java and postgres).
> We don't have any plan to release the Java/PostgreSQL backend. > The PHP version was an intermediate step to help developers interested > in understanding and evolving Clipperz codebase to be able to actually > execute the code.
> > I tried (only minimally) to get the gamma working with PHP last night. > But > > it didn't seem to work. Certain resources were not at the right places, > and > > the javascript was all messed up. I can give you more details if you > want.
> I admit that I have not build/deployed the full PHP backend lately, > but I am quite confident that it was possible to build it. > I have also integrated some patches (mostly by Josh: > https://github.com/jokajak) to cleanup the new build scripts for the > project layout.
> > From the documentation, I was led to believe it wouldn't work at all, so > was > > merely experimenting. But it would be nice to get the gamma running.
> If you try a little harder, it should work. :)
> If this is not the case, please share details on what is failing here > on the forum.
but /gamma does not yet support new account creation; this is true also for
the online version.
You need to create the account with /beta, and than you can login also with
/gamma.
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:05 PM, DavidG <dgel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK, trying gamma with PHP on localhost (Ubuntu, latest Chrome). No
> javascript errors in the console that I can see. Here is a screenshot of
> what I get when I try to create a new account by clicking on the "Create
> Account" button. (The home screen comes up perfectly).
> On Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:51:24 AM UTC-4, Giulio Cesare Solaroli wrote:
>> Hell David,
>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:47 PM, DavidG wrote:
>> > Giulio,
>> > Thanks. I guess I was wondering if you guys would consider releasing
>> the
>> > code for clipperz.com - at least we all would have a reference version
>> that
>> > works (even if in java and postgres).
>> We don't have any plan to release the Java/PostgreSQL backend.
>> The PHP version was an intermediate step to help developers interested
>> in understanding and evolving Clipperz codebase to be able to actually
>> execute the code.
>> > I tried (only minimally) to get the gamma working with PHP last night.
>> But
>> > it didn't seem to work. Certain resources were not at the right places,
>> and
>> > the javascript was all messed up. I can give you more details if you
>> want.
>> I admit that I have not build/deployed the full PHP backend lately,
>> but I am quite confident that it was possible to build it.
>> I have also integrated some patches (mostly by Josh:
>> https://github.com/jokajak) to cleanup the new build scripts for the
>> project layout.
>> > From the documentation, I was led to believe it wouldn't work at all,
>> so was
>> > merely experimenting. But it would be nice to get the gamma running.
>> If you try a little harder, it should work. :)
>> If this is not the case, please share details on what is failing here
>> on the forum.
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Ok, I did that - created an account using beta, went to gamma to log in, and a similar thing happened (javascript "misbehaving" like in the scrrenshot), so login form would not work. Is something misconfigured? Thanks, David.
On Saturday, July 14, 2012 5:19:37 PM UTC-4, Giulio Cesare Solaroli wrote:
> Sorry David,
> but /gamma does not yet support new account creation; this is true also > for the online version. > You need to create the account with /beta, and than you can login also > with /gamma.
> Sorry for the confusion.
> Regards,
> Giulio Cesare
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:05 PM, DavidG wrote:
>> OK, trying gamma with PHP on localhost (Ubuntu, latest Chrome). No >> javascript errors in the console that I can see. Here is a screenshot of >> what I get when I try to create a new account by clicking on the "Create >> Account" button. (The home screen comes up perfectly).
>> On Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:51:24 AM UTC-4, Giulio Cesare Solaroli wrote:
>>> Hell David,
>>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:47 PM, DavidG wrote: >>> > Giulio,
>>> > Thanks. I guess I was wondering if you guys would consider releasing >>> the >>> > code for clipperz.com - at least we all would have a reference >>> version that >>> > works (even if in java and postgres).
>>> We don't have any plan to release the Java/PostgreSQL backend. >>> The PHP version was an intermediate step to help developers interested >>> in understanding and evolving Clipperz codebase to be able to actually >>> execute the code.
>>> > I tried (only minimally) to get the gamma working with PHP last night. >>> But >>> > it didn't seem to work. Certain resources were not at the right >>> places, and >>> > the javascript was all messed up. I can give you more details if you >>> want.
>>> I admit that I have not build/deployed the full PHP backend lately, >>> but I am quite confident that it was possible to build it. >>> I have also integrated some patches (mostly by Josh: >>> https://github.com/jokajak) to cleanup the new build scripts for the >>> project layout.
>>> > From the documentation, I was led to believe it wouldn't work at all, >>> so was >>> > merely experimenting. But it would be nice to get the gamma running.
>>> If you try a little harder, it should work. :)
>>> If this is not the case, please share details on what is failing here >>> on the forum.
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could you please detail how you build the project, and what errors you are
getting in the Javascript console?
From what I can see from the screenshot, it looks like CSS was not loaded
correctly (some parts of the HTML should be just hidden away).
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:07 PM, DavidG <dgel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, I did that - created an account using beta, went to gamma to log in,
> and a similar thing happened (javascript "misbehaving" like in the
> scrrenshot), so login form would not work. Is something misconfigured?
> Thanks,
> David.
> On Saturday, July 14, 2012 5:19:37 PM UTC-4, Giulio Cesare Solaroli wrote:
>> Sorry David,
>> but /gamma does not yet support new account creation; this is true also
>> for the online version.
>> You need to create the account with /beta, and than you can login also
>> with /gamma.
>> Sorry for the confusion.
>> Regards,
>> Giulio Cesare
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:05 PM, DavidG wrote:
>>> OK, trying gamma with PHP on localhost (Ubuntu, latest Chrome). No
>>> javascript errors in the console that I can see. Here is a screenshot of
>>> what I get when I try to create a new account by clicking on the "Create
>>> Account" button. (The home screen comes up perfectly).
>>> On Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:51:24 AM UTC-4, Giulio Cesare Solaroli
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hell David,
>>>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:47 PM, DavidG wrote:
>>>> > Giulio,
>>>> > Thanks. I guess I was wondering if you guys would consider releasing
>>>> the
>>>> > code for clipperz.com - at least we all would have a reference
>>>> version that
>>>> > works (even if in java and postgres).
>>>> We don't have any plan to release the Java/PostgreSQL backend.
>>>> The PHP version was an intermediate step to help developers interested
>>>> in understanding and evolving Clipperz codebase to be able to actually
>>>> execute the code.
>>>> > I tried (only minimally) to get the gamma working with PHP last
>>>> night. But
>>>> > it didn't seem to work. Certain resources were not at the right
>>>> places, and
>>>> > the javascript was all messed up. I can give you more details if you
>>>> want.
>>>> I admit that I have not build/deployed the full PHP backend lately,
>>>> but I am quite confident that it was possible to build it.
>>>> I have also integrated some patches (mostly by Josh:
>>>> https://github.com/jokajak) to cleanup the new build scripts for the
>>>> project layout.
>>>> > From the documentation, I was led to believe it wouldn't work at all,
>>>> so was
>>>> > merely experimenting. But it would be nice to get the gamma running.
>>>> If you try a little harder, it should work. :)
>>>> If this is not the case, please share details on what is failing here
>>>> on the forum.
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