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Michael Crute  
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 More options Oct 5, 9:50 am
From: Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:50:21 -0400
Local: Mon, Oct 5 2009 9:50 am
Subject: Need Talks
This is going out a lot later than I had hoped, sorry about that.

After out meeting last month there was a lot of interest in tailoring
our talks better to new python users and away from the more advanced
topics that we normally try to cover. Of particular interest where
Python web frameworks. We now have a lot of web developers visiting
from other languages (.NET, ColdFusion, Java, etc...)

To that end I've assembled a list of topics that people would like to
see covered. If you already have a talk or would like to give a talk
about one of these topics please let me know.

I'd like to have a Django talk for the next meeting if anyone has one
prepared and wouldn't mind giving it. Anything that covers the basics
without getting too deep into advanced stuff would be useful.

Topics of Interest
==============
Customizing and Embedding iPython
Websites with Django
Websites with CherryPy
Websites with TurboGears
Beginning Python
Unit Testing Python Code
Websites with Zope/Plone
A Comparison of DVCS

Let me know if you would like to give any of these talks or if you
have another talk that's outside of this list.

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Mike Pirnat  
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 More options Oct 5, 9:56 am
From: Mike Pirnat <mpir...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:56:38 -0400
Local: Mon, Oct 5 2009 9:56 am
Subject: Re: [clepy] Need Talks

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Websites with Django
> Websites with CherryPy
> Websites with TurboGears

One thing that might be fun, if we had enough projectors/screens,
would be multiple simultaneous demos... Well, maybe more like
"cooperatively multiprocessed", with each presenter showing the way to
do something in their framework, then yielding to the next presenter
to show how their framework does the same thing (starting a project,
URL routing, templating, etc.).  It might be a good way to compare
frameworks side by side.

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Michael Crute  
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 More options Oct 5, 10:01 am
From: Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:01:27 -0400
Local: Mon, Oct 5 2009 10:01 am
Subject: Re: [clepy] Re: Need Talks

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Mike Pirnat <mpir...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Websites with Django
>> Websites with CherryPy
>> Websites with TurboGears

> One thing that might be fun, if we had enough projectors/screens,
> would be multiple simultaneous demos... Well, maybe more like
> "cooperatively multiprocessed", with each presenter showing the way to
> do something in their framework, then yielding to the next presenter
> to show how their framework does the same thing (starting a project,
> URL routing, templating, etc.).  It might be a good way to compare
> frameworks side by side.

That would be awesome, we could probably rig up some way to share a
single projector. Would you be interested in giving any of those 3
talks?

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Mike Pirnat  
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 More options Oct 5, 10:08 am
From: Mike Pirnat <mpir...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:08:50 -0400
Local: Mon, Oct 5 2009 10:08 am
Subject: Re: [clepy] Re: Need Talks

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That would be awesome, we could probably rig up some way to share a
> single projector. Would you be interested in giving any of those 3
> talks?

Yeah, I think you'd just need a KVM to flip between presentations.

I would in theory be interested in taking part in such a thing, but I
definitely don't have any time for the forseeable future.  Probably
not for some months.

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Michael Crute  
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 More options Oct 5, 10:36 am
From: Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:36:47 -0400
Local: Mon, Oct 5 2009 10:36 am
Subject: Re: Need Talks

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd like to have a Django talk for the next meeting if anyone has one
> prepared and wouldn't mind giving it. Anything that covers the basics
> without getting too deep into advanced stuff would be useful.

I just talked to dstanek and he offered to give a Django talk at the
next meeting. It sounds like he's planning to start by writing a
simple application and then make it audience driven from that point.

-mike

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Patrick Regan  
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 More options Oct 5, 7:27 pm
From: Patrick Regan <patrick.rubbs.re...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:27:23 -0400
Local: Mon, Oct 5 2009 7:27 pm
Subject: Re: [clepy] Re: Need Talks

I'm working on a presentation on (D)VCS's for the ALUG, I might be able to
do that one next month, if there is interest. Things that will (likely) be
covered is central and distributed models for VCS's and examples using SVN,
BZR, and probably GIT, and HG. If you have anything you'd like specifically
in there I'm willing to tailor it a little too. I might give this
presentation to my co-workers too.

Pat

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Nick Barendt  
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 More options Oct 13, 9:40 am
From: Nick Barendt <nickbare...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:40:46 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 13 2009 9:40 am
Subject: Re: [clepy] Re: Need Talks

  Appreciated Dave's talk last night.  If there is interest, I would be
willing to do a similar presentation on TurboGears 2 - only if people are
interested, though - if the group has had enough of web frameworks, that's
fine.
  Feedback?
-Nick


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David Stanek  
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 More options Oct 13, 10:36 am
From: David Stanek <dsta...@dstanek.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:36:27 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 13 2009 10:36 am
Subject: Re: [clepy] Re: Need Talks
+1

If there were too many frameworks we wouldn't feel compelled to make a
new ones.

On 10/13/09, Nick Barendt <nickbare...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Ralph Heimburger  
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 More options Oct 13, 10:39 am
From: Ralph Heimburger <1stpo...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:39:32 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 13 2009 10:39 am
Subject: Re: [clepy] Re: Need Talks

Agreed.  I think a TG2 talk would be very good.

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Christian Wyglendowski  
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 More options Oct 13, 10:55 am
From: Christian Wyglendowski <christ...@dowski.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:55:39 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 13 2009 10:55 am
Subject: Re: [clepy] Re: Need Talks

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Nick Barendt <nickbare...@gmail.com> wrote:

>   Appreciated Dave's talk last night.
>   If there is interest, I would be willing to do a similar presentation on
> TurboGears 2 - only if people are interested, though - if the group has had
> enough of web frameworks, that's fine.
>   Feedback?

I think it's a good idea.  I talked to Mike Crute after the meeting
about doing a CherryPy talk, so there's another framework talk to toss
onto the stack.

I'd also like to talk about diesel (http://dieselweb.org/) sometime.
It's a library for writing async applications using generators as
coroutines.  Some of the core software at our startup
(http://shoptalkapp.com/) uses it.  We released it as open source last
month.  It isn't a full web framework, but it does include a basic
HTTP/1,1 implementation (server and client).

Thanks again for doing the talk last night, Dave.  It was good to see
lots of new faces at the meeting, and of course the long-timers as
well.

Christian


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Chris Weisel  
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 More options Oct 13, 11:44 am
From: Chris Weisel <chris.wei...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:44:17 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 13 2009 11:44 am
Subject: Re: [clepy] Re: Need Talks

TG2 +1
CherryPy +1

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Matt Gibberman  
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 More options Oct 13, 3:15 pm
From: Matt Gibberman <mattg1...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:15:44 -0400
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Subject: Re: [clepy] Re: Need Talks

Diesel seems kind of interesting, +1 for that, too.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Chris Weisel <chris.wei...@gmail.com>wrote:


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Patrick Regan  
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 More options Oct 13, 6:14 pm
From: Patrick Regan <patrick.rubbs.re...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:14:22 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 13 2009 6:14 pm
Subject: Re: [clepy] Re: Need Talks

+1 for both.

I talked to Mike about doing one with him and another person (the name he
mentioned escapes me at the moment) on the different DVCS's. Not sure what
people would think about that.

Pat


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Michael Crute  
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 More options Oct 13, 8:38 pm
From: Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:38:44 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 13 2009 8:38 pm
Subject: Re: [clepy] Re: Need Talks
Christian has some time constraints so lets do his Cherrypy talk for
November. Nick, would you be able to do a TG2 talk in December? I
would really like to hear about Diesel sometime after that. And then
maybe in the January/February timeframe we can get a talk about DVCS.
Patrick mentioned wanting to give a talk about Bazzar, I'd love to
represent git and maybe I can con Dave into taking up the Mercurial
side of the debate. How does that sound to everybody? I don't want to
plan too far past January since plans may change for speakers.

-mike

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Benjamin W. Smith  
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 More options Oct 14, 9:24 am
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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:24:48 -0400
Local: Wed, Oct 14 2009 9:24 am
Subject: Re: [clepy] Re: Need Talks
While we're on the topic of frameworks, I'd be happy to talk about
Tornado, or web.py.  I've used both in projects and would be happy to
talk about em.

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Daniel Buch  
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 More options Oct 14, 11:51 am
From: Daniel Buch <daniel.b...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:51:32 -0400
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Subject: Re: [clepy] Re: Need Talks
wrt web frameworks, I'm a Pylons guy and would be happy to present on that

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Nick Barendt  
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 More options Oct 14, 1:29 pm
From: Nick Barendt <nickbare...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:29:50 -0400
Local: Wed, Oct 14 2009 1:29 pm
Subject: Re: [clepy] Re: Need Talks

  Sure, I can do the TG2 talk in December.
-Nick


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