This is going out a lot later than I had hoped, sorry about that.
After out meeting last month there was a lot of interest in tailoring our talks better to new python users and away from the more advanced topics that we normally try to cover. Of particular interest where Python web frameworks. We now have a lot of web developers visiting from other languages (.NET, ColdFusion, Java, etc...)
To that end I've assembled a list of topics that people would like to see covered. If you already have a talk or would like to give a talk about one of these topics please let me know.
I'd like to have a Django talk for the next meeting if anyone has one prepared and wouldn't mind giving it. Anything that covers the basics without getting too deep into advanced stuff would be useful.
Topics of Interest ============== Customizing and Embedding iPython Websites with Django Websites with CherryPy Websites with TurboGears Beginning Python Unit Testing Python Code Websites with Zope/Plone A Comparison of DVCS
Let me know if you would like to give any of these talks or if you have another talk that's outside of this list.
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Websites with Django > Websites with CherryPy > Websites with TurboGears
One thing that might be fun, if we had enough projectors/screens, would be multiple simultaneous demos... Well, maybe more like "cooperatively multiprocessed", with each presenter showing the way to do something in their framework, then yielding to the next presenter to show how their framework does the same thing (starting a project, URL routing, templating, etc.). It might be a good way to compare frameworks side by side.
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Mike Pirnat <mpir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Websites with Django >> Websites with CherryPy >> Websites with TurboGears
> One thing that might be fun, if we had enough projectors/screens, > would be multiple simultaneous demos... Well, maybe more like > "cooperatively multiprocessed", with each presenter showing the way to > do something in their framework, then yielding to the next presenter > to show how their framework does the same thing (starting a project, > URL routing, templating, etc.). It might be a good way to compare > frameworks side by side.
That would be awesome, we could probably rig up some way to share a single projector. Would you be interested in giving any of those 3 talks?
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote: > That would be awesome, we could probably rig up some way to share a > single projector. Would you be interested in giving any of those 3 > talks?
Yeah, I think you'd just need a KVM to flip between presentations.
I would in theory be interested in taking part in such a thing, but I definitely don't have any time for the forseeable future. Probably not for some months.
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'd like to have a Django talk for the next meeting if anyone has one > prepared and wouldn't mind giving it. Anything that covers the basics > without getting too deep into advanced stuff would be useful.
I just talked to dstanek and he offered to give a Django talk at the next meeting. It sounds like he's planning to start by writing a simple application and then make it audience driven from that point.
I'm working on a presentation on (D)VCS's for the ALUG, I might be able to
do that one next month, if there is interest. Things that will (likely) be
covered is central and distributed models for VCS's and examples using SVN,
BZR, and probably GIT, and HG. If you have anything you'd like specifically
in there I'm willing to tailor it a little too. I might give this
presentation to my co-workers too.
Pat
Patrick Regan
Email: regan.patr...@gmail.com
Phone: (330) 576-4044
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'd like to have a Django talk for the next meeting if anyone has one
> > prepared and wouldn't mind giving it. Anything that covers the basics
> > without getting too deep into advanced stuff would be useful.
> I just talked to dstanek and he offered to give a Django talk at the
> next meeting. It sounds like he's planning to start by writing a
> simple application and then make it audience driven from that point.
Appreciated Dave's talk last night. If there is interest, I would be
willing to do a similar presentation on TurboGears 2 - only if people are
interested, though - if the group has had enough of web frameworks, that's
fine.
Feedback?
-Nick
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'd like to have a Django talk for the next meeting if anyone has one
> > prepared and wouldn't mind giving it. Anything that covers the basics
> > without getting too deep into advanced stuff would be useful.
> I just talked to dstanek and he offered to give a Django talk at the
> next meeting. It sounds like he's planning to start by writing a
> simple application and then make it audience driven from that point.
> Appreciated Dave's talk last night. If there is interest, I would be
> willing to do a similar presentation on TurboGears 2 - only if people are
> interested, though - if the group has had enough of web frameworks, that's
> fine.
> Feedback?
> -Nick
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'd like to have a Django talk for the next meeting if anyone has one
>> > prepared and wouldn't mind giving it. Anything that covers the basics
>> > without getting too deep into advanced stuff would be useful.
>> I just talked to dstanek and he offered to give a Django talk at the
>> next meeting. It sounds like he's planning to start by writing a
>> simple application and then make it audience driven from that point.
>> -mike
>> --
>> ________________________________
>> Michael E. Crute
>> http://mike.crute.org
>> God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things.
>> Right now I am so far behind that I will never die. --Bill Watterson
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:36 AM, David Stanek <dsta...@dstanek.com> wrote:
> +1
> If there were too many frameworks we wouldn't feel compelled to make a
> new ones.
> On 10/13/09, Nick Barendt <nickbare...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Appreciated Dave's talk last night. If there is interest, I would be
> > willing to do a similar presentation on TurboGears 2 - only if people are
> > interested, though - if the group has had enough of web frameworks,
> that's
> > fine.
> > Feedback?
> > -Nick
> > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > I'd like to have a Django talk for the next meeting if anyone has one
> >> > prepared and wouldn't mind giving it. Anything that covers the basics
> >> > without getting too deep into advanced stuff would be useful.
> >> I just talked to dstanek and he offered to give a Django talk at the
> >> next meeting. It sounds like he's planning to start by writing a
> >> simple application and then make it audience driven from that point.
> >> -mike
> >> --
> >> ________________________________
> >> Michael E. Crute
> >> http://mike.crute.org
> >> God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things.
> >> Right now I am so far behind that I will never die. --Bill Watterson
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On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Nick Barendt <nickbare...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Appreciated Dave's talk last night. > If there is interest, I would be willing to do a similar presentation on > TurboGears 2 - only if people are interested, though - if the group has had > enough of web frameworks, that's fine. > Feedback?
I think it's a good idea. I talked to Mike Crute after the meeting about doing a CherryPy talk, so there's another framework talk to toss onto the stack.
I'd also like to talk about diesel (http://dieselweb.org/) sometime. It's a library for writing async applications using generators as coroutines. Some of the core software at our startup (http://shoptalkapp.com/) uses it. We released it as open source last month. It isn't a full web framework, but it does include a basic HTTP/1,1 implementation (server and client).
Thanks again for doing the talk last night, Dave. It was good to see lots of new faces at the meeting, and of course the long-timers as well.
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Nick Barendt <nickbare...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Appreciated Dave's talk last night.
> > If there is interest, I would be willing to do a similar presentation
> on
> > TurboGears 2 - only if people are interested, though - if the group has
> had
> > enough of web frameworks, that's fine.
> > Feedback?
> I think it's a good idea. I talked to Mike Crute after the meeting
> about doing a CherryPy talk, so there's another framework talk to toss
> onto the stack.
> I'd also like to talk about diesel (http://dieselweb.org/) sometime.
> It's a library for writing async applications using generators as
> coroutines. Some of the core software at our startup
> (http://shoptalkapp.com/) uses it. We released it as open source last
> month. It isn't a full web framework, but it does include a basic
> HTTP/1,1 implementation (server and client).
> Thanks again for doing the talk last night, Dave. It was good to see
> lots of new faces at the meeting, and of course the long-timers as
> well.
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Christian Wyglendowski <
> christ...@dowski.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Nick Barendt <nickbare...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Appreciated Dave's talk last night.
>> > If there is interest, I would be willing to do a similar presentation
>> on
>> > TurboGears 2 - only if people are interested, though - if the group has
>> had
>> > enough of web frameworks, that's fine.
>> > Feedback?
>> I think it's a good idea. I talked to Mike Crute after the meeting
>> about doing a CherryPy talk, so there's another framework talk to toss
>> onto the stack.
>> I'd also like to talk about diesel (http://dieselweb.org/) sometime.
>> It's a library for writing async applications using generators as
>> coroutines. Some of the core software at our startup
>> (http://shoptalkapp.com/) uses it. We released it as open source last
>> month. It isn't a full web framework, but it does include a basic
>> HTTP/1,1 implementation (server and client).
>> Thanks again for doing the talk last night, Dave. It was good to see
>> lots of new faces at the meeting, and of course the long-timers as
>> well.
I talked to Mike about doing one with him and another person (the name he
mentioned escapes me at the moment) on the different DVCS's. Not sure what
people would think about that.
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Matt Gibberman <mattg1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Diesel seems kind of interesting, +1 for that, too.
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Chris Weisel <chris.wei...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> TG2 +1
>> CherryPy +1
>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Christian Wyglendowski <
>> christ...@dowski.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Nick Barendt <nickbare...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Appreciated Dave's talk last night.
>>> > If there is interest, I would be willing to do a similar presentation
>>> on
>>> > TurboGears 2 - only if people are interested, though - if the group has
>>> had
>>> > enough of web frameworks, that's fine.
>>> > Feedback?
>>> I think it's a good idea. I talked to Mike Crute after the meeting
>>> about doing a CherryPy talk, so there's another framework talk to toss
>>> onto the stack.
>>> I'd also like to talk about diesel (http://dieselweb.org/) sometime.
>>> It's a library for writing async applications using generators as
>>> coroutines. Some of the core software at our startup
>>> (http://shoptalkapp.com/) uses it. We released it as open source last
>>> month. It isn't a full web framework, but it does include a basic
>>> HTTP/1,1 implementation (server and client).
>>> Thanks again for doing the talk last night, Dave. It was good to see
>>> lots of new faces at the meeting, and of course the long-timers as
>>> well.
Christian has some time constraints so lets do his Cherrypy talk for
November. Nick, would you be able to do a TG2 talk in December? I
would really like to hear about Diesel sometime after that. And then
maybe in the January/February timeframe we can get a talk about DVCS.
Patrick mentioned wanting to give a talk about Bazzar, I'd love to
represent git and maybe I can con Dave into taking up the Mercurial
side of the debate. How does that sound to everybody? I don't want to
plan too far past January since plans may change for speakers.
<patrick.rubbs.re...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 for both.
> I talked to Mike about doing one with him and another person (the name he
> mentioned escapes me at the moment) on the different DVCS's. Not sure what
> people would think about that.
> Pat
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Matt Gibberman <mattg1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Diesel seems kind of interesting, +1 for that, too.
>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Chris Weisel <chris.wei...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> TG2 +1
>>> CherryPy +1
>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Christian Wyglendowski
>>> <christ...@dowski.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Nick Barendt <nickbare...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Appreciated Dave's talk last night.
>>>> > If there is interest, I would be willing to do a similar
>>>> > presentation on
>>>> > TurboGears 2 - only if people are interested, though - if the group
>>>> > has had
>>>> > enough of web frameworks, that's fine.
>>>> > Feedback?
>>>> I think it's a good idea. I talked to Mike Crute after the meeting
>>>> about doing a CherryPy talk, so there's another framework talk to toss
>>>> onto the stack.
>>>> I'd also like to talk about diesel (http://dieselweb.org/) sometime.
>>>> It's a library for writing async applications using generators as
>>>> coroutines. Some of the core software at our startup
>>>> (http://shoptalkapp.com/) uses it. We released it as open source last
>>>> month. It isn't a full web framework, but it does include a basic
>>>> HTTP/1,1 implementation (server and client).
>>>> Thanks again for doing the talk last night, Dave. It was good to see
>>>> lots of new faces at the meeting, and of course the long-timers as
>>>> well.
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Christian has some time constraints so lets do his Cherrypy talk for
> November. Nick, would you be able to do a TG2 talk in December? I
> would really like to hear about Diesel sometime after that. And then
> maybe in the January/February timeframe we can get a talk about DVCS.
> Patrick mentioned wanting to give a talk about Bazzar, I'd love to
> represent git and maybe I can con Dave into taking up the Mercurial
> side of the debate. How does that sound to everybody? I don't want to
> plan too far past January since plans may change for speakers.
> -mike
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Patrick Regan
> <patrick.rubbs.re...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> +1 for both.
>> I talked to Mike about doing one with him and another person (the name he
>> mentioned escapes me at the moment) on the different DVCS's. Not sure what
>> people would think about that.
>> Pat
>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Matt Gibberman <mattg1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Diesel seems kind of interesting, +1 for that, too.
>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Chris Weisel <chris.wei...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> TG2 +1
>>>> CherryPy +1
>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Christian Wyglendowski
>>>> <christ...@dowski.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Nick Barendt <nickbare...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Appreciated Dave's talk last night.
>>>>> > If there is interest, I would be willing to do a similar
>>>>> > presentation on
>>>>> > TurboGears 2 - only if people are interested, though - if the group
>>>>> > has had
>>>>> > enough of web frameworks, that's fine.
>>>>> > Feedback?
>>>>> I think it's a good idea. I talked to Mike Crute after the meeting
>>>>> about doing a CherryPy talk, so there's another framework talk to toss
>>>>> onto the stack.
>>>>> I'd also like to talk about diesel (http://dieselweb.org/) sometime.
>>>>> It's a library for writing async applications using generators as
>>>>> coroutines. Some of the core software at our startup
>>>>> (http://shoptalkapp.com/) uses it. We released it as open source last
>>>>> month. It isn't a full web framework, but it does include a basic
>>>>> HTTP/1,1 implementation (server and client).
>>>>> Thanks again for doing the talk last night, Dave. It was good to see
>>>>> lots of new faces at the meeting, and of course the long-timers as
>>>>> well.
> While we're on the topic of frameworks, I'd be happy to talk about
> Tornado, or web.py. I've used both in projects and would be happy to
> talk about em.
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Christian has some time constraints so lets do his Cherrypy talk for
>> November. Nick, would you be able to do a TG2 talk in December? I
>> would really like to hear about Diesel sometime after that. And then
>> maybe in the January/February timeframe we can get a talk about DVCS.
>> Patrick mentioned wanting to give a talk about Bazzar, I'd love to
>> represent git and maybe I can con Dave into taking up the Mercurial
>> side of the debate. How does that sound to everybody? I don't want to
>> plan too far past January since plans may change for speakers.
>> -mike
>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Patrick Regan
>> <patrick.rubbs.re...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> +1 for both.
>>> I talked to Mike about doing one with him and another person (the name he
>>> mentioned escapes me at the moment) on the different DVCS's. Not sure what
>>> people would think about that.
>>> Pat
>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Matt Gibberman <mattg1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Diesel seems kind of interesting, +1 for that, too.
>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Chris Weisel <chris.wei...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> TG2 +1
>>>>> CherryPy +1
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Christian Wyglendowski
>>>>> <christ...@dowski.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Nick Barendt <nickbare...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > Appreciated Dave's talk last night.
>>>>>> > If there is interest, I would be willing to do a similar
>>>>>> > presentation on
>>>>>> > TurboGears 2 - only if people are interested, though - if the group
>>>>>> > has had
>>>>>> > enough of web frameworks, that's fine.
>>>>>> > Feedback?
>>>>>> I think it's a good idea. I talked to Mike Crute after the meeting
>>>>>> about doing a CherryPy talk, so there's another framework talk to toss
>>>>>> onto the stack.
>>>>>> I'd also like to talk about diesel (http://dieselweb.org/) sometime.
>>>>>> It's a library for writing async applications using generators as
>>>>>> coroutines. Some of the core software at our startup
>>>>>> (http://shoptalkapp.com/) uses it. We released it as open source last
>>>>>> month. It isn't a full web framework, but it does include a basic
>>>>>> HTTP/1,1 implementation (server and client).
>>>>>> Thanks again for doing the talk last night, Dave. It was good to see
>>>>>> lots of new faces at the meeting, and of course the long-timers as
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>> Christian
>> --
>> ________________________________
>> Michael E. Crute
>> http://mike.crute.org
>> God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things.
>> Right now I am so far behind that I will never die. --Bill Watterson
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Daniel Buch <daniel.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> wrt web frameworks, I'm a Pylons guy and would be happy to present on that
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Benjamin W. Smith <defi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > While we're on the topic of frameworks, I'd be happy to talk about
> > Tornado, or web.py. I've used both in projects and would be happy to
> > talk about em.
> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Michael Crute <mcr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Christian has some time constraints so lets do his Cherrypy talk for
> >> November. Nick, would you be able to do a TG2 talk in December? I
> >> would really like to hear about Diesel sometime after that. And then
> >> maybe in the January/February timeframe we can get a talk about DVCS.
> >> Patrick mentioned wanting to give a talk about Bazzar, I'd love to
> >> represent git and maybe I can con Dave into taking up the Mercurial
> >> side of the debate. How does that sound to everybody? I don't want to
> >> plan too far past January since plans may change for speakers.
> >> -mike
> >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Patrick Regan
> >> <patrick.rubbs.re...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> +1 for both.
> >>> I talked to Mike about doing one with him and another person (the name
> he
> >>> mentioned escapes me at the moment) on the different DVCS's. Not sure
> what
> >>> people would think about that.
> >>> Pat
> >>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Matt Gibberman <mattg1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> Diesel seems kind of interesting, +1 for that, too.
> >>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Chris Weisel <
> chris.wei...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> TG2 +1
> >>>>> CherryPy +1
> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Christian Wyglendowski
> >>>>> <christ...@dowski.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Nick Barendt <
> nickbare...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> > Appreciated Dave's talk last night.
> >>>>>> > If there is interest, I would be willing to do a similar
> >>>>>> > presentation on
> >>>>>> > TurboGears 2 - only if people are interested, though - if the
> group
> >>>>>> > has had
> >>>>>> > enough of web frameworks, that's fine.
> >>>>>> > Feedback?
> >>>>>> I think it's a good idea. I talked to Mike Crute after the meeting
> >>>>>> about doing a CherryPy talk, so there's another framework talk to
> toss
> >>>>>> onto the stack.
> >>>>>> I'd also like to talk about diesel (http://dieselweb.org/)
> sometime.
> >>>>>> It's a library for writing async applications using generators as
> >>>>>> coroutines. Some of the core software at our startup
> >>>>>> (http://shoptalkapp.com/) uses it. We released it as open source
> last
> >>>>>> month. It isn't a full web framework, but it does include a basic
> >>>>>> HTTP/1,1 implementation (server and client).
> >>>>>> Thanks again for doing the talk last night, Dave. It was good to
> see
> >>>>>> lots of new faces at the meeting, and of course the long-timers as
> >>>>>> well.
> >>>>>> Christian
> >> --
> >> ________________________________
> >> Michael E. Crute
> >> http://mike.crute.org
> >> God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things.
> >> Right now I am so far behind that I will never die. --Bill Watterson