U.P. Woodfired Kiln 4th Firing Taking A Peek (Video)

[gary navarre]

Hey Folks,

 I'm no different than anyone else when it comes to the anxiety/excitement of waiting until the pots are cool enough to pull and admire so about Noon the next day I took a look and decided to wait until later in the afternoon. Rick came by later so I pulled a small bottle with a long metal rod like a Chimpanzee fishing for Termites with a stick ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCwsZnk6sb4   

 Thanks for watching and we should see more in a few days so stay tuned eh.

 

Gary Navarre
Navarre Pottery
Navarre Enterprises
Norway, Michigan, USA
http://www.NavarrePottery.etsy.com
http://www.youtube.com/GindaUP
http://public.fotki.com/GindaUP/

[Ann Brink]

How exciting! Will be waiting to see more.

Ann Brink

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[Lee]

Good Luck Gary!
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[patricia CASSONE]

Hello Lee, Rob and all guys and ladies, of course... !
Hope you start a beautiful new year...! and I wish you good works and enjoy the same pleasure as the first time you touch the clay...

I'd like to ask you if somebody can give a black oribe recipe and firing process.
Can I make it by oxydation?
for information, I'm in France and cannot have material as " flint " or "spodum锟斤拷ne".. hope they don't need in this recipe..
Thank you by advance..
all the best..
Patricia



Patricia CASSONE
1, La Valette                                            
87160 ST SULPICE LES FEUILLES - FRANCE            
00 33 (0)5.55.76.19.89                                     
00 33 (0)6 72 84 65 80

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From: tog...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:18:32 -0600
Subject: Re: *ClayCraft* U.P. Woodfired Kiln 4th Firing Taking A Peek (Video)
To: clay...@googlegroups.com

Good Luck Gary!
--
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http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/

 "Ta tIr na n-锟斤拷g ar chul an tI锟斤拷tIr dlainn trina ch锟斤拷ile"锟斤拷that is, "The land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent within itself." -- John O'Donohue

[rickma...@comcast.net]

Patricia,

Flint is silica so it should be available anywhere.  Spodumene is another story.  You can use one of the glaze calculation software programs to find what materials (most likely a combination of materials) that you can use to replace the spodumene in the recipe but when you change materials as my graduate avidsor used to say :  When you change anything in a glaze you change the glaze".  He meant that the phyiscal properties of the materials play a large part in the way the glaze looks and works.

 

I know that our local supplier has shipped materials and products overseas so if you want to go that route you can go to their website: Clayartcenter.net

and find any materials that you are not able to source locally.

 

Rick Mahaffey   

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From: "patricia CASSONE" <patca...@hotmail.fr>
To: clay...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:35:20 AM
Subject: *ClayCraft* black oribe

Hello Lee, Rob and all guys and ladies, of course... !
Hope you start a beautiful new year...! and I wish you good works and enjoy the same pleasure as the first time you touch the clay...

I'd like to ask you if somebody can give a black oribe recipe and firing process.
Can I make it by oxydation?

for information, I'm in France and cannot have material as " flint " or "spodumène".. hope they don't need in this recipe..

Thank you by advance..
all the best..
Patricia



Patricia CASSONE
1, La Valette                                            
87160 ST SULPICE LES FEUILLES - FRANCE            
00 33 (0)5.55.76.19.89                                     
00 33 (0)6 72 84 65 80

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From: tog...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:18:32 -0600
Subject: Re: *ClayCraft* U.P. Woodfired Kiln 4th Firing Taking A Peek (Video)
To: clay...@googlegroups.com

Good Luck Gary!
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 "Ta tIr na n-óg ar chul an tI—tIr dlainn trina chéile"—that is, "The land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent within itself." -- John O'Donohue

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[patricia CASSONE]

Thank you Rick,
I don't mean it need flint of spodumene in the black oribe recipe..
I just note we don't have it in France,

but do you have black oribe recipe ?

Thanks,

Patricia


Patricia CASSONE
1, La Valette                                            
87160 ST SULPICE LES FEUILLES - FRANCE            
00 33 (0)5.55.76.19.89                                     
00 33 (0)6 72 84 65 80

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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:29:05 +0000
From: rickma...@comcast.net
To: clay...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: *ClayCraft* black oribe

Patricia,
Flint is silica so it should be available anywhere.  Spodumene is another story.  You can use one of the glaze calculation software programs to find what materials (most likely a combination of materials) that you can use to replace the spodumene in the recipe but when you change materials as my graduate avidsor used to say :  When you change anything in a glaze you change the glaze".  He meant that the phyiscal properties of the materials play a large part in the way the glaze looks and works.
 
I know that our local supplier has shipped materials and products overseas so if you want to go that route you can go to their website: Clayartcenter.net
and find any materials that you are not able to source locally.
 
Rick Mahaffey   

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From: "patricia CASSONE" <patca...@hotmail.fr>
To: clay...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:35:20 AM
Subject: *ClayCraft* black oribe

Hello Lee, Rob and all guys and ladies, of course... !
Hope you start a beautiful new year...! and I wish you good works and enjoy the same pleasure as the first time you touch the clay...

I'd like to ask you if somebody can give a black oribe recipe and firing process.
Can I make it by oxydation?

for information, I'm in France and cannot have material as " flint " or "spodum锟斤拷ne".. hope they don't need in this recipe..

Thank you by advance..
all the best..
Patricia



Patricia CASSONE
1, La Valette                                            
87160 ST SULPICE LES FEUILLES - FRANCE            
00 33 (0)5.55.76.19.89                                     
00 33 (0)6 72 84 65 80

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From: tog...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:18:32 -0600
Subject: Re: *ClayCraft* U.P. Woodfired Kiln 4th Firing Taking A Peek (Video)
To: clay...@googlegroups.com

Good Luck Gary!
--

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http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/

 "Ta tIr na n-锟斤拷g ar chul an tI锟斤拷tIr dlainn trina ch锟斤拷ile"锟斤拷that is, "The land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent within itself." -- John O'Donohue

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[rickma...@comcast.net]

Patricia

 

I only have a green Oribe recipe but any shiney clear glaze with somewhere between 3and 7% will create the Green glaze that is like Oribe.

I have never heard of Flint of Spodumene.  Flint and Spodumene are two very different materials.

I am not sure what gives the black color in those glazes.  It does not look like a black derived from Manganese alone or black Iron alone.  I will look through some books when I get the chance and see if there are any hints about a black Oribe glaze in them and let you know as soon as I get the chance.

 

It is too bad that you are not closer, you could attend our tea bowl workshop with Rob Fornell, Jeff Shapiro, Richard Milgrim, and Inayoshi Osamu (March 31 April 1 at Tacoma Community College, Tacoma, WA, 98466, USA) and ask them directly for help in creating a black oribe glaze. 

I will try to get some direction from them during the workshop if I can.

 

Rick

for information, I'm in France and cannot have material as " flint " or "spodumène".. hope they don't need in this recipe..

Thank you by advance..
all the best..
Patricia



Patricia CASSONE
1, La Valette                                            
87160 ST SULPICE LES FEUILLES - FRANCE            
00 33 (0)5.55.76.19.89                                     
00 33 (0)6 72 84 65 80

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From: tog...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:18:32 -0600
Subject: Re: *ClayCraft* U.P. Woodfired Kiln 4th Firing Taking A Peek (Video)
To: clay...@googlegroups.com

Good Luck Gary!
--

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 "Ta tIr na n-óg ar chul an tI—tIr dlainn trina chéile"—that is, "The land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent within itself." -- John O'Donohue

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[Lee]

Hi Patricia!

       Maybe Black Oribe is the same is Setoguro?  Or Seto Black?

        My friend Doug Black sent repled on Facebook.  He uses:

1 part ODO TSUCHI (ocher clay)
ASH  
FELDSPAR

      I would try ocher clay.   I will test this the next time I fire.

Good luck!

        

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:35 AM, patricia CASSONE <patca...@hotmail.fr> wrote:

Hello Lee, Rob and all guys and ladies, of course... !
Hope you start a beautiful new year...! and I wish you good works and enjoy the same pleasure as the first time you touch the clay...

I'd like to ask you if somebody can give a black oribe recipe and firing process.
Can I make it by oxydation?

for information, I'm in France and cannot have material as " flint " or "spodumène".. hope they don't need in this recipe..

Thank you by advance..
all the best..
Patricia



Patricia CASSONE
1, La Valette                                            
87160 ST SULPICE LES FEUILLES - FRANCE            
00 33 (0)5.55.76.19.89                                     
00 33 (0)6 72 84 65 80

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From: tog...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:18:32 -0600
Subject: Re: *ClayCraft* U.P. Woodfired Kiln 4th Firing Taking A Peek (Video)
To: clay...@googlegroups.com

Good Luck Gary!
--

 Lee 李 Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/

 "Ta tIr na n-óg ar chul an tI—tIr dlainn trina chéile"—that is, "The land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent within itself." -- John O'Donohue

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[Rob]

Hi Patricia,

When I make an Irabo like glaze it's almost the same as what Lee
quoted here... Ocher-Ash-Spar..... materials don't often translate
geographically/geologiclly.

Just my 2 cents worth here.... while replicating classic Japanese/
Korean/Chinese glazes is a very worthy challenge, I spent a few years
working on a "Seattle Buncheong", I'm sure Patricia that there are
some very wonderful materials to use in your native France which would
yield some glazes which would be very beautiful and unique to your
local. Perhaps a St. Sulpice Les Feuilles Black?

Best wishes,
Rob

On Feb 11, 4:40 pm, Lee <toge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Patricia!
>
>        Maybe Black Oribe is the same is Setoguro?  Or Seto Black?
>
>         My friend Doug Black sent repled on Facebook.  He uses:
>
> 1 part ODO TSUCHI (ocher clay)
> ASH
> FELDSPAR
>
>       I would try ocher clay.   I will test this the next time I fire.
>
> Good luck!
>

> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:35 AM, patricia CASSONE <patcass...@hotmail.fr>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >  Hello Lee, Rob and all guys and ladies, of course... !
> > Hope you start a beautiful new year...! and I wish you good works and
> > enjoy the same pleasure as the first time you touch the clay...
>
> > I'd like to ask you if somebody can give a black oribe recipe and firing
> > process.
> > Can I make it by oxydation?
> > for information, I'm in France and cannot have material as " flint " or
> > "spodumène".. hope they don't need in this recipe..
> > Thank you by advance..
> > all the best..
> > Patricia
>
> > Patricia CASSONE
> > 1, La Valette
> > 87160 ST SULPICE LES FEUILLES - FRANCE
> > 00 33 (0)5.55.76.19.89
> > 00 33 (0)6 72 84 65 80
>

> > ------------------------------
> > From: toge...@gmail.com

> > Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:18:32 -0600
> > Subject: Re: *ClayCraft* U.P. Woodfired Kiln 4th Firing Taking A Peek
> > (Video)
> > To: clay...@googlegroups.com
>
> > Good Luck Gary!
> > --
> >  Lee 李 Love in Minneapolis
> >http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
>
> >  "Ta tIr na n-óg ar chul an tI—tIr dlainn trina chéile"—that is, "The land
> > of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent within
> > itself." -- John O'Donohue
>
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>  Lee 李 Love in Minneapolishttp://mingeisota.blogspot.com/

>
>  "Ta tIr na n-óg ar chul an tI—tIr dlainn trina chéile"—that is, "The land
> of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent within

> itself." -- John O'Donohue- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Mike]

Somewhere recently I heard:
1 part Iron Oxide
1 part wood ash

I have not tested this yet, but will in the next couple of days or so. I'll be sure to report.

Mike
in Taku, Japan

http://karatsupots.com
http://karatsupots.blogspot.com

Workshop in Taku 2012: The Simple Teabowl,  May 12 - 18

http://karatsupots.com/workshop2012/2012home.html

http://workshopintaku2012.blogspot.com/

[Mike]

Results of the hikidashiguro glaze test here:

http://karatsupots.com/wordpress/2012/02/hikidashiguro-test.html

Mike
in Taku, Japan

http://karatsupots.com
http://karatsupots.blogspot.com

Workshop in Taku 2012: The Simple Teabowl,  May 12 - 18

http://karatsupots.com/workshop2012/2012home.html

http://workshopintaku2012.blogspot.com/

[Hank Murrow]

On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:41 AM, Mike wrote:

Results of the hikidashiguro glaze test here:

http://karatsupots.com/wordpress/2012/02/hikidashiguro-test.html

Hey Mike;

Looks like you'll be ready for some pulled chawan for the workshop... Ii desu ne! Rice hull cooling is a nice innovation too!

Mine hadn't enough wood ash in the last anagama fire, so I re-glazed with my shino and fired in my gas kiln to good effect.

The recipe was 80 Andesite(dark volcanic rock) 20 Ash. Gzot to up the ash and perhaps then I will need to add some RIO.

Wish I could join you all in Taku!

Cheers, Hank

[Rob]

Good looking tests Mike....

I checked out your workshop which looks to be well worth attending and
having traded a piece for a nice tokkuri by Okamoto Sakurei a number
of years back I'm familiar with him.....a fine potter.

Will do a short show in Tokyo sometime between 5/8 and 5/15 and
wondering if, time permitting, it might be okay to stop by for a day
or two?

Best,
R

On Feb 12, 4:41 am, Mike <m...@karatsupots.com> wrote:
> Results of the hikidashiguro glaze test here:
>
> http://karatsupots.com/wordpress/2012/02/hikidashiguro-test.html
>
> Mike
> in Taku, Japan
>

> http://karatsupots.comhttp://karatsupots.blogspot.com

> >>     87160 ST SULPICE LES FEUILLES- FRANCE

> >>     00 33 (0)5.55.76.19.89
> >>     00 33 (0)6 72 84 65 80
>

> >>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>     From: toge...@gmail.com <mailto:toge...@gmail.com>

> >>     Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:18:32 -0600
> >>     Subject: Re: *ClayCraft* U.P. Woodfired Kiln 4th Firing Taking A
> >>     Peek (Video)

> >>     To: clay...@googlegroups.com <mailto:clay...@googlegroups.com>

>
> >>     Good Luck Gary!
> >>     --
> >>      Lee 李 Love in Minneapolis
> >>    http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
>
> >>      "Ta tIr na n-óg ar chul an tI—tIr dlainn trina chéile"—that is,
> >>     "The land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land
> >>     fluent within itself." -- John O'Donohue
>
> >>     --
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> >> --
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> >>http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
>
> >>  "Ta tIr na n-óg ar chul an tI—tIr dlainn trina chéile"—that is, "The
> >> land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
> >> within itself." -- John O'Donohue
>
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[Neon-Cat]

I have notes for an oribe (cone 9-10) with 50% Barnard clay and 50% wood ash, plus copper carbonate to "taste".
Perhaps a dark umber with manganese would work -- there should be a selection of umbers in France -- they would also contain iron.

Nice rice hull experiments! Thanks for sharing. I'll have to try that. I was going to grind some and use in an experimental clay body this coming week -- it might be fun to see if my temps are hot enough to use rice hulls effectively in a post-fire reducing can.

Ya all have fun at NCECA and the workshop!

Marian
Neon-Cat

[patricia CASSONE]

Thank you for test so quick Mike.. I'm really amazed by...
And thank you for everybody giving reply.. hello Hank..
Thank you Lee, yes, Setoguro desu...

Ok Rob, I will try with some clay here to do one La Valette's oribe.. ! But you know, here we are on granit ground.. so nice feldspar and not so much red clay..
Waiting for your visit..


And Rick," It is too bad that you are not closer, you could attend our tea bowl workshop with Rob Fornell, Jeff Shapiro, Richard Milgrim, and Inayoshi Osamu (March 31 April 1 at Tacoma Community College, Tacoma, WA, 98466, USA) and ask them directly for help in creating a black oribe glaze."  I would love to come at this Tea bowl workshop.. Next time, call me sooner.. and I will organize to come..

And Rob and Lee, do you come at the Tea Bowl Festival in Korea this year ?

How about snow and ice in USA..? Here is -13锟斤拷 ! But it's nice...

Thank you everybody.. send you a picture from my window..

Patricia CASSONE
1, La Valette                                            

87160 ST SULPICE LES FEUILLES - FRANCE            
00 33 (0)5.55.76.19.89                                     

00 33 (0)6 72 84 65 80

> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:05:09 -0800

> Subject: Re: *ClayCraft* black oribe

> From: r...@robertfornellceramicarts.com
> To: clay...@googlegroups.com

> > >>     flint " or "spodum锟斤拷ne".. hope they don't need in this recipe..

> > >>     Thank you by advance..
> > >>     all the best..
> > >>     Patricia
> >
> > >>     Patricia CASSONE
> > >>     1, La Valette
> > >>     87160 ST SULPICE LES FEUILLES- FRANCE
> > >>     00 33 (0)5.55.76.19.89
> > >>     00 33 (0)6 72 84 65 80
> >
> > >>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>     From: toge...@gmail.com <mailto:toge...@gmail.com>
> > >>     Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:18:32 -0600
> > >>     Subject: Re: *ClayCraft* U.P. Woodfired Kiln 4th Firing Taking A
> > >>     Peek (Video)
> > >>     To: clay...@googlegroups.com <mailto:clay...@googlegroups.com>
> >
> > >>     Good Luck Gary!
> > >>     --

> > >>      Lee 锟斤拷 Love in Minneapolis
> > >>    http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
> >
> > >>      "Ta tIr na n-锟斤拷g ar chul an tI锟斤拷tIr dlainn trina ch锟斤拷ile"锟斤拷that is,

> > >>     "The land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land
> > >>     fluent within itself." -- John O'Donohue
> >
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> > >>http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
> >
> > >>  "Ta tIr na n-锟斤拷g ar chul an tI锟斤拷tIr dlainn trina ch锟斤拷ile"锟斤拷that is, "The

> > >> land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
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[patricia CASSONE]

Thank you Marian, that's maybe possible I think
but sorry I don't understand "umber".. I'm looking for translation by french..
thanks anyway..
Pat

Patricia CASSONE
1, La Valette                                            
87160 ST SULPICE LES FEUILLES - FRANCE            
00 33 (0)5.55.76.19.89                                     
00 33 (0)6 72 84 65 80

> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:42:34 -0800
> From: neo...@flash.net

> Subject: Re: *ClayCraft* black oribe

> To: clay...@googlegroups.com

[Hank Murrow]

On Feb 12, 2012, at 9:03 AM, patricia CASSONE wrote:

Thank you Marian, that's maybe possible I think 
but sorry I don't understand "umber".. I'm looking for translation by french..

Dear Patricia;

Perhaps try the red or yellow dirt from Roussillon_____ used for artist's pigments for  hundred + years. A field trip?

Cheers, Hank

[Neon-Cat]

Pat, I think Burnt Umber (a common ceramic and artist pigment) is "Ombre Clacinee" and/or "terre d'ombre brûlée". My French is horrible:>)   One can get burnt umber (calcined) or raw umber.   Many umbers and ochres are mined in France. Hank might have the right idea about a field trip.   In the US, pottery supply houses often carry umber and ochre. The clay in them is usually an illite clay, similar to the clay in the US Barnard clay and the familiar RedArt clay. Marian     --- On Sun, 2/12/12, patricia CASSONE <patca...@hotmail.fr> wrote:

From: patricia CASSONE <patca...@hotmail.fr> Subject: RE: *ClayCraft* black oribe

[Mike]

Absolutely Rob, you are most welcome to come for a day or two if you like.

Mike
in Taku, Japan

http://karatsupots.com
http://karatsupots.blogspot.com

Workshop in Taku 2012: The Simple Teabowl,  May 12 - 18

http://karatsupots.com/workshop2012/2012home.html

http://workshopintaku2012.blogspot.com/

[Mike]

Hi Hank, I'll bet that reglazing gave you a nice snake skin effect. I wish you could be here too...

Mike
in Taku, Japan

http://karatsupots.com
http://karatsupots.blogspot.com

Workshop in Taku 2012: The Simple Teabowl,  May 12 - 18

http://karatsupots.com/workshop2012/2012home.html

http://workshopintaku2012.blogspot.com/

[Mike]

I think I forgot to mention, the glaze was fired to cone 9, touching.

Mike
in Taku, Japan

http://karatsupots.com
http://karatsupots.blogspot.com

Workshop in Taku 2012: The Simple Teabowl,  May 12 - 18

http://karatsupots.com/workshop2012/2012home.html

http://workshopintaku2012.blogspot.com/

[Hank Murrow]

On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Mike wrote:

Hi Hank, I'll bet that reglazing gave you a nice snake skin effect. I wish you could be here too…

Not exactly! But a pleasant hand massage anyway!

[Neon-Cat]

Pretty, Hank!   Aplite, which is similar to andesite (both contain andesine feldspar), is used by the glass industry.   U.S. Silica Company, 2007 http://www.ussilica.com/uploads/files/product-data-sheets/location/montpelier/aplite-250-112707.pdf   Hank, are you doing any more with that low-melt spodumene?   Marian Neon-Cat --- On Sun, 2/12/12, Hank Murrow <hmu...@efn.org> wrote:

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Gorgeous with koicha inside! Cheers, Hank

[patricia CASSONE]

Ok Hank, I will try with ocher but I'm far from Provence now, you know, even I'm born there.. I'm living close Limoges now.. and I use one yellow ocher from St Amand en Puisaye, you know St Amand ? not far from la Borne..
Thank you Marian too... I understand Ocre calcinée, yes, it's a painter color...
Hope to meet you one day... Hank, Marian..
have a good work !
Patricia

Patricia CASSONE
1, La Valette                                            
87160 ST SULPICE LES FEUILLES - FRANCE            
00 33 (0)5.55.76.19.89                                     
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Subject: Re: *ClayCraft* black oribe

Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:19:59 -0800
To: clay...@googlegroups.com

[Hank Murrow]

On Feb 13, 2012, at 2:58 AM, patricia CASSONE wrote:

Ok Hank, I will try with ocher but I'm far from Provence now, you know, even I'm born there.. I'm living close Limoges now.. and I use one yellow ocher from St Amand en Puisaye, you know St Amand ? not far from la Borne.. 
Thank you Marian too... I understand Ocre calcinée, yes, it's a painter color... 

Hope to meet you one day…

Yes, I know St. Amand, as I was there for the woodfire festival in 2007, just after "La Borne S'Enflamme". I visited many kilns in that area and stayed at "BoisBelle" in Henrichemont. Do you use Limoges porcelain? There is a potter here, Frank Boyden, who imports it for his woodfired work.

I have travelled in France seven times and have good friends in Paris, Toulouse, Brittany, and St. Laurent-du-Var. I will certainly return, God willing.

Cheers, Hank

Seung Ho Yang's anagama outside La Borne……

[Joe Nunes]

Hi Patricia,

In the oribe glaze section of High-Fire Glazes, by John Britt, there is a picture of Norton Red bace with 5% black copper oxide that looks real dark, I can't telll the color for sure.    Norton Red       Nepheline Syenite   44.4

                                                          Whiting                   14.1

                                                           Silica                      25.3

                                                           Ball clay                   3.0

                                                            Frit 3134                13.1            I would add about 2% iron oxide and the 5% black copper oxide if I were trying it.

I hope someone has an answer you can use, Joe

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[patricia CASSONE]

Thank you Joe, it's nice on you to give me that information.. I will try..
Now, going today to an anagama firing, so I will try soon and i will tell you about result..
Have a good day !

Patricia


Patricia CASSONE
1, La Valette                                            
87160 ST SULPICE LES FEUILLES - FRANCE            
00 33 (0)5.55.76.19.89                                     
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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:00:51 -0800
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Subject: Re: *ClayCraft* black oribe

To: clay...@googlegroups.com

for information, I'm in France and cannot have material as " flint " or "spodum锟斤拷ne".. hope they don't need in this recipe..

Thank you by advance..
all the best..
Patricia



Patricia CASSONE
1, La Valette                                            
87160 ST SULPICE LES FEUILLES - FRANCE            
00 33 (0)5.55.76.19.89                                     
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[patricia CASSONE]

Hello Hank, no, it's not Seung Ho's kiln.. it's an other one in Dordogne, Tristan's anagama.. quite big 10m3 and I will fire different works for a solo exhibition in Paris next May.. porcelain, shino and row clays..
We will be 9 for firing so a lot of fun.. ! Tristan is a nice young potter..

By the way, you know, I organise a workshop about anagama's building and firing in my place next June with Shozo Michikawa..?
you may look at the website of Prometer I manage: www.ceramique-prometer.com
If you know some guy interested by this workshop, it's not completely booked..
Just contact me.. I come back on the 12th of March..

Thank you and have a good time !

Patricia



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87160 ST SULPICE LES FEUILLES - FRANCE            
00 33 (0)5.55.76.19.89                                     
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Subject: RE: *ClayCraft* black oribe

Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:44:50 +0100

[clay pots]

Hello Everyone-I hope you are all having a great winter, it's been pretty mild out here in N. CA with just a light smattering of snow last night.

I hope all of you can offer me some ideas of how to sell from my residence. I live in a back waters place and I'm wondering if you, may suggest some do and don'ts and how to's etc. It may seem obvious and easy to some but I have never sold from my house and want to incur no problems. For instance should I make a permannent sign outside my gate offering what i do here? I have a good spot in front of my yet to be constructed interior of my workshop that would be good if I can set up tables, or I can do it on my deck but that offers lookie-lous the sight of my messy home!

What do you think.,any suggestions and help would be well appreciated, I really need to make some sales to pay bills and stay afloat! Thank you!

Craig

for information, I'm in France and cannot have material as " flint " or "spodumène".. hope they don't need in this recipe..

Thank you by advance..
all the best..
Patricia



Patricia CASSONE
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00 33 (0)5.55.76.19.89                                     
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[Miriam Nathanson]

Craig,

Some people use the etsy website.  I think waiting for people to come to your door would be slow and interrupt you. 

Good luck,

Miriam

[Hank Murrow]

On Mar 1, 2012, at 5:04 PM, clay pots wrote:

I hope all of you can offer me some ideas of how to sell from my residence. I live in a back waters place and I'm wondering if you, may suggest some do and don'ts and how to's etc. It may seem obvious and easy to some but I have never sold from my house and want to incur no problems. For instance should I make a permannent sign outside my gate offering what i do here? I have a good spot in front of my yet to be constructed interior of my workshop that would be good if I can set up tables, or I can do it on my deck but that offers lookie-lous the sight of my messy home!

What do you think.,any suggestions and help would be well appreciated, I really need to make some sales to pay bills and stay afloat! Thank you!

Dear Craig;

First, consult your county or city building department to discover what their rules are for home businesses. In Eugene where I live, they are pretty relaxed if you work mainly alone or with a helper, and you don't have lots of cars parked creating a nuisance for your neighbors. I have a fairly complete showroom in the solarium/solar greenhouse I built many years ago. My friend and former student James Laub and I built display cabinets that show off the work in a domestic context. In addition, we built in lots of storage in the bottoms of the cabinets for back stock, sales paraphenalia, champagne flutes, and extra glass shelves. The cabinets have glass shelves and halogen lights built into the top valance which allows light to reach the lower levels of the display. The colors(Ivory & Warm Grey) were selected at the paint retailer with the aid of my favorite glazes, so nothing is jarring; while contrast is provided for both light and dark pieces. I will attach pics at the end of my rap here. 

I send out emailings to a forty-mile radius, and for larger events, a 100-mile radius. In addition, I usually send out 250 cards with a color image of my work filling one side, the info on the reverse in B&W. Since my sales events always comprise two days(Fri & Sat) and are held from noon to six, I use a rubber stamp for the dates, so I can order cards in larger quantities(500_750), and the same card two or three times.

I have around two million folks withing 120 miles, so the 'pickings' are easy for me; but it takes around 1000 customers to send announcements out to, while expecting only 100__200 will actually show up. Fortunately, that is all it takes IMHO.

Cheers and Good Luck;  Hank in Eugene

A display cabinet

the solarium/showroom

The working part of the studio, turned showroom

The other side of the solarium/showroom and happy staff and customers!

[clay pots]

Wow! That's so cool! You obviously have this under control. I think I can say that my county is the same, I believe they said if you make the item yourself on your property you can also sell it there, w/o a permit but I'm going to double check that. There is some parking that can be used( I live on a private road that's partially mine) I thought it would be good to try and make an effort to meet the locals (even the rednecks) and just get them used to this liberal minded old hippie type that wants to stay here if I can,You have some great ideas thanks so much, I'm going to write them down for sure.

Craig

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[clay pots]

hey there old friend-how are you doing? Are you still in SF? I'm thinking of doing a show at Ruby's Studio, if I get accepted, Do you know anything about them? Craig

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