[ClassicShetlands] Fw: Last chance for pony

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Joyce E

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May 10, 2013, 4:47:05 PM5/10/13
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It would be such a shame for this beautiful stallion to have to die!  I would take him in a heartbeat myself, save for the distance he would have to travel.

List Mom Joyce

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From: laz...@hotmail.com <laz...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Last chance for pony
To: ClassicShet...@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 10, 2013, 10:27 AM

I will be leaving the ranch soon, and this pony must be gone. I will have to call the vet and have him put down if no arrangements are made for a new home. He is free, and is a 12 yr old stallion. Halter trained only, foundation bred, and is 44 inches. Country Star Clint Black is his reg name. 
 
  
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Jerrie

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May 10, 2013, 6:04:16 PM5/10/13
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Well it could be a thought here too if my wife had a job, but 2500 miles is a long way to get a horse. I would really hope someone takes him but that is a sign of the times people don't know how much longer they would have money to take care of their animals, I was lucky last winter and the Amish took nine of mine off of my hands else I would be in trouble too because I just barely have enough to feed the four that are left.
Jerrie
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Dunlooken Farm

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May 10, 2013, 6:10:23 PM5/10/13
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I hope you don't mind that I posted about him on a facebook group I'm on.  I'm in the same boat and can't afford all of mine either and have to make hard choices.
Bev


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Betsy Bailey

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Where is the pony located?

Betsy Bailey
Platinum Carriage Co.


On May 10, 2013, at 5:04 PM, "Jerrie" <palo...@aeroinc.net> wrote:


Well it could be a thought here too if my wife had a job, but 2500 miles is a long way to get a horse. I would really hope someone takes him but that is a sign of the times people don't know how much longer they would have money to take care of their animals, I was lucky last winter and the Amish took nine of mine off of my hands else I would be in trouble too because I just barely have enough to feed the four that are left.
Jerrie
 Collecting antique lawn and garden equipment in NW Illinois

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From: Joyce E
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 3:47 PM
Subject: [ClassicShetlands] Fw: Last chance for pony

It would be such a shame for this beautiful stallion to have to die!  I would take him in a heartbeat myself, save for the distance he would have to travel.

List Mom Joyce

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From: laz...@hotmail.com <laz...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Last chance for pony
To: ClassicShet...@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 10, 2013, 10:27 AM

I will be leaving the ranch soon, and this pony must be gone. I will have to call the vet and have him put down if no arrangements are made for a new home. He is free, and is a 12 yr old stallion. Halter trained only, foundation bred, and is 44 inches. Country Star Clint Black is his reg name.<Clint><195900979wvtvOG_th.jpg> 

 
  
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Joyce E

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May 10, 2013, 6:41:02 PM5/10/13
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Washington state.  Please contact Pat Byrd at

LAZY B LIGHTNING RANCH
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509-422-6388 EVENINGS - Pac. Time

http://lazyblightning.freewebsites.com  

Let's find this well-bred little stallion a good home!

Joyce



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Where is the pony located?

Betsy Bailey
Platinum Carriage Co.

From: Joyce E
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 3:47 PM
Subject: [ClassicShetlands] Fw: Last chance for pony

It would be such a shame for this beautiful stallion to have to die!  I would take him in a heartbeat myself, save for the distance he would have to travel.

List Mom Joyce


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Betsy Bailey

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May 10, 2013, 6:44:59 PM5/10/13
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WOW! Long way from me in Texas :-( 
I can't believe somebody hasn't taken him...... I will post it on my business facebook page. If I could afford to go get him I would, but I just can't swing the diesel or cost of a shipper:-((



Betsy Bailey
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On May 10, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Joyce E <yzol...@basicisp.net> wrote:

Washington state.  Please contact Pat Byrd at

LAZY B LIGHTNING RANCH
MINI BEEF & DAIRY SHORTHORNS
509-422-6388 EVENINGS - Pac. Time
http://lazyblightning.freewebsites.com  

Let's find this well-bred little stallion a good home!

Joyce



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Where is the pony located?

Betsy Bailey
Platinum Carriage Co.

From: Joyce E
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 3:47 PM
Subject: [ClassicShetlands] Fw: Last chance for pony

It would be such a shame for this beautiful stallion to have to die!  I would take him in a heartbeat myself, save for the distance he would have to travel.

List Mom Joyce


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We are in NC WA state
 
 
 

  
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Joyce E

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May 10, 2013, 7:23:17 PM5/10/13
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Pat, I just posted a pic of him on my FB page, with your email address as contact.  Hope it helps!

Joyce 


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We are in NC WA state
 
 
 
  
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Date: 5/10/2013 03:26:19
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Where is the pony located?

Betsy Bailey
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Eclipse Farm

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May 10, 2013, 7:33:47 PM5/10/13
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We have room and resources for this guy (he would be gelded) if someone can get him to SW Idaho. It's possible that we could meet 1/2 way, around Pendleton? I still have 1 shetland mare (that he would be paired with after gelding), a couple big horses and a couple llamas on 120 acres that he could roam. He would not be killed and would be well cared for. I don't show anymore, so this would be a retirement pet home. Hate to see him put down. Let me know if I can help.
 
Suzanne Pierce
Pearl, ID
 

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It would be such a shame for this beautiful stallion to have to die!  I would take him in a heartbeat myself, save for the distance he would have to travel.

List Mom Joyce

--- On Fri, 5/10/13, laz...@hotmail.com <laz...@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: laz...@hotmail.com <laz...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Last chance for pony
To: ClassicShet...@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 10, 2013, 10:27 AM

I will be leaving the ranch soon, and this pony must be gone. I will have to call the vet and have him put down if no arrangements are made for a new home. He is free, and is a 12 yr old stallion. Halter trained only, foundation bred, and is 44 inches. Country Star Clint Black is his reg name. 
 
  
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Betsy Bailey

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May 10, 2013, 7:32:51 PM5/10/13
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I posted the pic and info on my company facebook page! I hope this helps. I sure wish I could afford the fuel to come get him :-(  He would look good in a team with my Black and white Shetland, Starlett........



Betsy Bailey
Platinum Carriage Co.


On May 10, 2013, at 6:23 PM, Joyce E <yzol...@basicisp.net> wrote:

Pat, I just posted a pic of him on my FB page, with your email address as contact.  Hope it helps!

Joyce 


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We are in NC WA state
 
 
 
  
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Date: 5/10/2013 03:26:19
Subject: Re: [ClassicShetlands] Fw: Last chance for pony
 
 

Where is the pony located?

Betsy Bailey
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Joyce E

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May 10, 2013, 8:49:06 PM5/10/13
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That would be a wonderful solution!  How 'bout it, Pat?!  Druther see him gelded than in the ground...

Joyce



On 5/10/2013 7:33 PM, Eclipse Farm wrote:

We have room and resources for this guy (he would be gelded) if someone can get him to SW Idaho. It's possible that we could meet 1/2 way, around Pendleton? I still have 1 shetland mare (that he would be paired with after gelding), a couple big horses and a couple llamas on 120 acres that he could roam. He would not be killed and would be well cared for. I don't show anymore, so this would be a retirement pet home. Hate to see him put down. Let me know if I can help.
 
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Pearl, ID
 


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Pat B.

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May 10, 2013, 9:12:31 PM5/10/13
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Thanks a bunch.....I hope someone wants him soon. 
 
 
 
 

  
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From: Joyce E
Date: 5/10/2013 04:23:26
Subject: Re: [ClassicShetlands] Fw: Last chance for pony
 
 

Pat, I just posted a pic of him on my FB page, with your email address as contact.  Hope it helps!

Joyce 


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We are in NC WA state
 
 
 
  
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Date: 5/10/2013 03:26:19
Subject: Re: [ClassicShetlands] Fw: Last chance for pony
 
 

Where is the pony located?

Betsy Bailey
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May 10, 2013, 9:13:32 PM5/10/13
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I would be happy to take him if I could figure out how to get him here.
 

Bellia L Wheeless
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God grant me the serenity to take in as many horses as possible,
The courage to convince my husband this is a good thing,
And the wisdom to know how to accomplish this task..

 

La...@amerion.com

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May 10, 2013, 9:18:18 PM5/10/13
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This sounds very good...I have truck and trailer to haul with....but have no fuel $ and just had back surgery 3 weeks ago, so I could get someone to help drive......Just to let you know what the Vet told me.....You will have to wait until cold weather to geld because the bleeding issue.....If we could just find someone coming your way, that would be awesome...it is Rodeo and show season!!!  Are there any pony people out there?  Coming that way??
 
 

  
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Eclipse Farm

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May 10, 2013, 11:31:42 PM5/10/13
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Hi Pat;
I'll talk to my husband about logistics and such. He's a contractor and we are in our busy season right now, so out of town travel is tough. Any help we could get getting him down here would be great. And if anyone closer, or a show home shows an interest in him, we're happy to step aside. We just want to see him saved.
Feel free to contact me directly. And let me know if you want to see pics of our place and our other critters.
Suzanne

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Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ClassicShetlands] Fw: Last chance for pony
This sounds very good...I have truck and trailer to haul with....but have no fuel $ and just had back surgery 3 weeks ago, so I could get someone to help drive......Just to let you know what the Vet told me.....You will have to wait until cold weather to geld because the bleeding issue.....If we could just find someone coming your way, that would be awesome...it is Rodeo and show season!!!  Are there any pony people out there?  Coming that way??
  
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MINI BEEF & DAIRY SHORTHORNS
509-422-6388 EVENINGS - Pac. Time
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Date: 5/10/2013 05:45:02
Subject: Re: [ClassicShetlands] Fw: Last chance for pony
 
We have room and resources for this guy (he would be gelded) if someone can get him to SW Idaho. It's possible that we could meet 1/2 way, around Pendleton? I still have 1 shetland mare (that he would be paired with after gelding), a couple big horses and a couple llamas on 120 acres that he could roam. He would not be killed and would be well cared for. I don't show anymore, so this would be a retirement pet home. Hate to see him put down. Let me know if I can help.
 
Suzanne Pierce
Pearl, ID
 
From: Joyce E <Ys_ol...@yahoo.com>
To: classics...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 2:47 PM
Subject: [ClassicShetlands] Fw: Last chance for pony
It would be such a shame for this beautiful stallion to have to die!  I would take him in a heartbeat myself, save for the distance he would have to travel.

List Mom Joyce

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From: laz...@hotmail.com <laz...@hotmail.com>Subject: Last chance for ponyTo: ClassicShet...@yahoogroups.comDate: Friday, May 10, 2013, 10:27 AM
I will be leaving the ranch soon, and this pony must be gone. I will have to call the vet and have him put down if no arrangements are made for a new home. He is free, and is a 12 yr old stallion. Halter trained only, foundation bred, and is 44 inches. Country Star Clint Black is his reg name. 
 
  
LAZY B LIGHTNING RANCH
MINI BEEF & DAIRY SHORTHORNS
509-422-6388 EVENINGS - Pac. Time


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Jessica Matheson does some traveling to show. Shes on the ID/WA boarder she might be able to pick him up for you. jessica.matheson.39@facebook.com
 

Bellia L Wheeless
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The courage to convince my husband this is a good thing,
And the wisdom to know how to accomplish this task..

 
 

La...@amerion.com

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May 13, 2013, 11:25:05 AM5/13/13
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I was familiar with your program years ago, when I had ponies being shown. I have no problems at all with you taking him...he would be in a good place. Please lets figure out how to do this.  Pat
 
 

  
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Eclipse Farm

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May 13, 2013, 4:31:06 PM5/13/13
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Hi Pat;
Talked to hubby; he's fine with me bringing him home (he actually said "like I could tell you no to a rescue pony"), but we are tied here for a while. The next 6 weeks are slammed for us with work, so he said no out of town trips for now. We've got another month or so before fly season (I don't like to geld during summer), so if we could somehow get him down here quickly, he could be gelded before the frost. Ideally, he'd go straight to Idaho Equine in Nampa (just off I-84) for gelding, then Mike I could haul him up to the ranch a day or so later. Otherwise I'll have to wait til after frost to geld (which is fine, I can set up a stallion pen, as I had a rescue stallion here last year, not a big deal). I'd just like to get it done quickly if possible so he can have free range with the others sooner. My pony mare is actually down in the pens now because of spring green up; she'll go back out in another week or so if it stays dry.
 
Again, any help we could get with getting him down here would be appreciated, as I'd like to use my set aside ranch fund toward his gelding, shots, and first cutting is coming off in a few weeks.
 
Anything you could tell me about him would be great. What's his personality like? Does he have an issues I need to be aware of? Dietary restrictions (ours graze nearly year round, with grass hay or mix as needed)? I noticed he has a lot of white on his face; does he have issues with sunburn? Which shots will he need? Stuff like that.
 
Talk soon,
Suzanne
 
 

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Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [ClassicShetlands] Fw: Last chance for pony

I was familiar with your program years ago, when I had ponies being shown. I have no problems at all with you taking him...he would be in a good place. Please lets figure out how to do this.  Pat

 
 
  
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Date: 5/11/2013 08:01:36
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Hi Pat;
I'll talk to my husband about logistics and such. He's a contractor and we are in our busy season right now, so out of town travel is tough. Any help we could get getting him down here would be great. And if anyone closer, or a show home shows an interest in him, we're happy to step aside. We just want to see him saved.
Feel free to contact me directly. And let me know if you want to see pics of our place and our other critters.
Suzanne

Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ClassicShetlands] Fw: Last chance for pony

 
 
This sounds very good...I have truck and trailer to haul with....but have no fuel $ and just had back surgery 3 weeks ago, so I could get someone to help drive......Just to let you know what the Vet told me.....You will have to wait until cold weather to geld because the bleeding issue.....If we could just find someone coming your way, that would be awesome...it is Rodeo and show season!!!  Are there any pony people out there?  Coming that way??

 
 
  
LAZY B LIGHTNING RANCH
MINI BEEF DAIRY SHORTHORNS

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Date: 5/10/2013 05:45:02
Subject: Re: [ClassicShetlands] Fw: Last chance for pony
 

We have room and resources for this guy (he would be gelded) if someone can get him to SW Idaho. It's possible that we could meet 1/2 way, around Pendleton? I still have 1 shetland mare (that he would be paired with after gelding), a couple big horses and a couple llamas on 120 acres that he could roam. He would not be killed and would be well cared for. I don't show anymore, so this would be a retirement pet home. Hate to see him put down. Let me know if I can help.
 
Suzanne Pierce
Pearl, ID
 

From: Joyce E
To: classics...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 2:47 PM
Subject: [ClassicShetlands] Fw: Last chance for pony

It would be such a shame for this beautiful stallion to have to die!  I would take him in a heartbeat myself, save for the distance he would have to travel.

List Mom Joyce

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From: laz...@hotmail.com Subject: Last chance for pony To: ClassicShet...@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, May 10, 2013, 10:27 AM

I will be leaving the ranch soon, and this pony must be gone. I will have to call the vet and have him put down if no arrangements are made for a new home. He is free, and is a 12 yr old stallion. Halter trained only, foundation bred, and is 44 inches. Country Star Clint Black is his reg name. 
 

  
LAZY B LIGHTNING RANCH
MINI BEEF DAIRY SHORTHORNS

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La...@amerion.com

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May 13, 2013, 8:31:57 PM5/13/13
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Just talked to Al Ziegler.....If I met him in Moses Lake he would charge $500.00  or Door to door is $650.00  It would cost me $120.00 to haul to Moses and back home again, ( and I do not have any $ right now, so I would have to have help, so it would be just the same price for him to come up here.plus his health cert/ coggins etc paper work...would have to be ASAP. He would pick him up on Saturday the 25th. ?????   
 
 
 
 
  
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Date: 5/13/2013 03:43:27
Subject: Re: [ClassicShetlands] Fw: Last chance for pony
 
 

Hi Pat;
Talked to hubby; he's fine with me bringing him home (he actually said "like I could tell you no to a rescue pony"), but we are tied here for a while. The next 6 weeks are slammed for us with work, so he said no out of town trips for now. We've got another month or so before fly season (I don't like to geld during summer), so if we could somehow get him down here quickly, he could be gelded before the frost. Ideally, he'd go straight to Idaho Equine in Nampa (just off I-84) for gelding, then Mike I could haul himup to the ranch a day or so later. Otherwise I'll have to wait til after frost to geld(which is fine, I can set up a stallion pen, as I had a rescue stallion here last year, not a big deal). I'd just like to get it done quickly if possible so he can have free range with the others sooner. My pony mare is actually down in the pens now because of spring green up; she'll go back out in another week or so if it stays dry.

Again, any help we could get with getting him down here would be appreciated, as I'd like to use my set aside ranch fund toward his gelding, shots, and first cutting is coming off in a few weeks.

Anything you could tell me about him would be great. What's his personality like? Does he have an issues I need to be aware of? Dietary restrictions (ours graze nearly year round, with grass hay or mixas needed)? I noticed he has a lot of white on his face; does he have issues with sunburn? Which shotswill he need? Stuff like that.
Talk soon,
Suzanne

  

LAZY B LIGHTNING RANCH
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509-422-6388 EVENINGS - Pac. Time

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Date: 5/10/2013 05:45:02
Subject: Re: [ClassicShetlands] Fw: Last chance for pony

We have room and resources for this guy (he would be gelded) if someone can get him to SW Idaho. It's possible that we could meet 1/2 way, around Pendleton?I still have 1 shetland mare (that he would be paired with after gelding), a couple big horses anda couplellamas on 120 acres that he could roam. He would not be killed and would be well cared for. I don't show anymore, so this would be a retirement pet home. Hate to see him put down.Let me know if I can help.
Suzanne Pierce
Pearl, ID

From: Joyce E
To: classics...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 2:47 PM
Subject: [ClassicShetlands] Fw: Last chance for pony

It would be such a shame for this beautiful stallion to have to die! I would take him in a heartbeat myself, save for the distance he would have to travel.

List Mom Joyce

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From: laz...@hotmail.com Subject: Last chance for pony To: ClassicShet...@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, May 10, 2013, 10:27 AM

I will be leaving the ranch soon, and this pony must be gone. I will have to call the vet and have him put down if no arrangements are made for a new home. He is free, and is a 12 yr old stallion. Halter trained only, foundation bred, and is 44 inches. Country Star Clint Black is his reg name.

  

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May 13, 2013, 10:19:47 PM5/13/13
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Hey Pat,
Check with the Welsh people. They are thick as thieves up there and often take on cheap hauls to help with gas costs. Worth a try. Check Yahoo groups WMP2 it's the most active group. Best of luck and God bless ya gal!
Warm fuzzies,
Ceci
 
 
 
 
 
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