A Bargain at £ 2.49 delivered ?

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XRWoody

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Dec 22, 2009, 3:25:28 AM12/22/09
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Greg (Owner)

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Dec 22, 2009, 5:33:07 AM12/22/09
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Hmm...at that price it must be worth it! I did listen to the album
when it was available for streaming but I can't really remember much
about it.

XRWoody wrote:
> http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/1125209/Guns-N-Roses-Chinese-Democracy/Product.html

Rob Jackson

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Dec 22, 2009, 6:13:24 AM12/22/09
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I'd say go for it.
Rob


Rich Harper

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Dec 22, 2009, 7:30:46 AM12/22/09
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Personally I'm flabbergasted that you consider buying the Chinese Democracy
whilst completely overlooking the "Essential John Barrowman" although imo
there is no such thing.

Rich

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Tosh

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Dec 22, 2009, 7:47:54 AM12/22/09
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On 22/12/2009 12:30, Rich Harper did say:

> Personally I'm flabbergasted that you consider buying the Chinese Democracy
> whilst completely overlooking the "Essential John Barrowman" although imo
> there is no such thing.
>
> Rich
>

There may be no such thing but I imagine it's still better than Chinese
Democracy!

Grizzlybaz

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Dec 22, 2009, 5:53:52 PM12/22/09
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Now that price really says everything you need to know about one of
the overhyped albums of all time!

G

jmo...@ntlworld.com

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Dec 23, 2009, 5:31:21 AM12/23/09
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Buy it Greg.
I saw the original Roses and was never a fan of Axles voice but I love Democracy it a cracking album!

Muttley

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Dec 23, 2009, 1:03:51 PM12/23/09
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Over-hyped? Yeah.

Worth buying for £2.49? Too bloody right.

Woody, it's a stormer of an album that would have been praised to the
moon if a new band had released it. Knocks spots off so many of the
other truly over-hyped bands of the last few years. You see I'm
trying hard, I didn't even mention The Answer there....oh bugger.

It's worth £2.49 for the guitar work on There Was A Time alone.

M

jmo...@ntlworld.com

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Dec 24, 2009, 4:29:10 AM12/24/09
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That is so true Muttley, as I keep saying .....its a fucking belting album. Just pretend its not Guns n Roses and then listen!

Ray P

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Dec 28, 2009, 8:52:30 AM12/28/09
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i have avoided it like the plague but at 2.49 I guess even I will have
to take a punt. I really enjoyed GNR at Wembley back in the day but
over time have come to hate Axel's whiney voice. i still can't see it
being a patch on the VR albums.
as for the Answer - i liked them to start with but it does get a bit
'samey' after a while. Silvertide's debut is sooooo much better. and
when Soliss finally release theirs .... ( unsigned terrific band from
Southend on sea - check them out on myspace )

NLT : ( well watching actually) - King Crimson - Neal Jack and Me. I
finally got the dvd. I had the 'Frejus' concert on an old video from
when it was first aired on BBC - dear old Annie Nightingale on ' In
Concert' . over the years I often considered wiping it when I was
looking for a video to re-use but every time i stuck the bugger in the
machine I became hypnotised with it and could never bring myself to
wipe it. I was then desperately searching for it on dvd until i
recently found out it was 1 of 2 concerts on the 'Neal' dvd - i'm now
a very happy bunny !

Patch

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Dec 28, 2009, 7:57:34 PM12/28/09
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I love Guns 'n' Roses to bits. I even like Chinese Democracy and at
2.49 it would definitely be worth it.. I'm not that keen on Velvet
Revolver.I do own the albums and I will always love Slash doing his
thing but they lack a basic element, tunes. Although some are quite
good, their tunes are not that memorable, pure and simple. Hopefully a
new singer will bring a new dynamic and the band will improve.

Patch

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Dec 28, 2009, 8:05:53 PM12/28/09
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Grizzlybaz

"Now that price really says everything you need to know about one of
the overhyped albums of all time!"
G

That comment doesn't make sense Grizzlybaz. CDs are cheap and at play
they are dirt cheap. It has nothing to do with how good or bad an
album is. CDs only appreciate in value if they are out of print,
especially if it's a special boxset or something.. And that day it
must have been bargain of the day because now it's back to 4 pounds.
Recently there was The Godfather trilogy for some 12 pounds on play.
It says nothing about the quality of the movies!

The deluxe boxset for the same album is available for 40 quid.

http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/8241264/Chinese-Democracy/Product.html?ptsl=1&ob=Price&fb=0

Tosh

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Dec 29, 2009, 7:18:05 AM12/29/09
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On 29/12/2009 01:05, Patch did say:

> Grizzlybaz
>
> "Now that price really says everything you need to know about one of
> the overhyped albums of all time!"
> G
>
> That comment doesn't make sense Grizzlybaz. CDs are cheap and at play
> they are dirt cheap. It has nothing to do with how good or bad an
> album is.


No but it speaks volumes about popularity.
If it's �2.50 it means they have an overstock because not as many people
bought it as expected, this can't be because nobody new about it as it's
the most hyped album in history so it must be because those that heard
it didn't like it and didn't buy it(and lets not blame downloads because
the GNR demographic buys CDs rather than stealing downloads, they do
however often listen before they buy).
Lets face it it wasn't worth the wait and I still can't believe CR made
it album of the year before it even came out, they should be wearing
hessian pants for 10 years as penance.

Muttley

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Dec 29, 2009, 7:19:53 PM12/29/09
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Tosh

A cd being ultra cheap on play does reflect popularity - but when did
popularity become an accurate measure of quality?

I can't make comment on whether it was worth the ten year wait because
I wasn't waiting for it. GnR had stopped doing anything for me when
rock clubs were still playing Sweet Child three times an hour, and I
listened to it with no baggage and no weight of expectation. In that
light I think it's a cracking album, with some great guitar work.

Completely agree about the ludicrous CR choice, and when it did come
out it was the same year as Watershed by Opeth, so that book's closed.

M

Woody

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Dec 30, 2009, 6:36:49 AM12/30/09
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To me the price, (in a sale in this case), has absolutely nothing to
do with the band, the popularity or the quality.

Ther are many albums sold cheap by all sorts of bands at all sorts of
times from all sorts of vendors. It fun seeking out the bargains and
thats all it is to me. And it generates some comments from my friends
on here :)

And by the way I have bought cheaper albums than this one and
thoroughly enjoyed them to.

And I have also paid a lot of money for albums I hated, Dream Theatre
springing immediately to mind.

So even an average album at a bargain price is a lot better than a
crap one (or at least one I dont like) at a higher price.

£ 2.49 delivered is fine by me :)

Tosh

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:16:10 AM12/30/09
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On 30/12/2009 11:36, Woody did say:

> To me the price, (in a sale in this case), has absolutely nothing to
> do with the band, the popularity or the quality.
>
> Ther are many albums sold cheap by all sorts of bands at all sorts of
> times from all sorts of vendors. It fun seeking out the bargains and
> thats all it is to me. And it generates some comments from my friends
> on here :)
>


That maybe your opinion but it's not how retail works, if an album is
reduced to �2.49 it is because they have stock of that album that they
can't move at full price which means it isn't as popular as the retailer
expected it to be.
We all enjoy finding bargains but they aren't there for our benefit,
they are bargains for a reason.

Grizzlybaz

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Dec 31, 2009, 2:52:49 AM12/31/09
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Tosh, thank you kindly for making my point for me, thereby saving me
the effort. I'm totally with you on this one. Muttley, I have to say
that popularity, while not necessarily accurate, is a pretty good
indicator of quality depending on the demographic that has been
surveyed. When you've got an album, which does have some redeeming
songs I'll admit, that has been released by one of the great rock
bands of the 80's and even die hard rock fans are slating it, surely
that says something about it? Like Muttley, GNR stopped doing it for
me around the time of Use Your Illusion and there is nothing in
Chinese Democracy to cause me to revise my opinion, and my opinion of
the album is not based on the hype or GNR, but on listening to it
several times. Sorry folks, just couldn't get into it. Guess this
brings us back to the old argument though doesn't it? Different
strokes for different folks and all that...

G

Woody

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Dec 31, 2009, 9:07:29 AM12/31/09
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"That maybe your opinion but it's not how retail works, if an album
is
reduced to 2.49 it is because they have stock of that album that they
can't move at full price which means it isn't as popular as the
retailer
expected it to be.
We all enjoy finding bargains but they aren't there for our benefit,
they are bargains for a reason."

That maybe so, in lots of cases, including this one.
Another reason for a low selling price is a loss leader, after all it
certainly got me looking for other bargains at this shop/website, 3
albums delivered for well under a tenner was good in my view.

They are all pretty popular in this house ;)

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