Yeah. So like, you know who we are. But a stranger wouldn't say OMG a technomage!
So that's why Bethany will be wearing a megacorp business suit, and a hidden staff - she can turn it into a briefcase. I dont know what the guys are wearing!
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ahhh. Ok. That is important to tell those of us that haven't been on the > original idea and plotline.... as in, you need to let the Threads list know > this. How in the world would we know about bgas we didn't file.
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:49, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL >> technomages were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter and >> Archibald. so while JET members know that Technomages are involved the >> theory was that none of the workers in the city did... folks spent BGAs to >> cover it up and stuff
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the City, I >>> don't think the disguises are going to work.
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. LOL. >>>> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry them.
>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC chats, >>>> > esp >>>> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists comign >>>> > to be >>>> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. >>>> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic >>>> > scientists. >>>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> >>>> > wrote:
>>>> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need help >>>> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what >>>> >> technosphere culture is like.
>>>> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which makes >>>> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has a small >>>> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able to >>>> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their needs. >>>> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to >>>> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire lives in a >>>> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and the >>>> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I think, in a >>>> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still maintain the >>>> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
>>>> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work for Dr. >>>> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech technicians. >>>> >> In >>>> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the above >>>> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even one of >>>> >> each of those.
>>>> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing characters for a >>>> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would steel >>>> >> it >>>> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
>>>> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact plot for >>>> >> them >>>> >> yet.
>>>> > -- >>>> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >>>> > convictions of >>>> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >>>> > -Dahlia Lithwick
>>>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >>>> > -Napoleon
>>>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones >>>> > will >>>> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
>>>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >>>> > matter >>>> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>>> -- >>> Lisa A. Lassner >>> arachn...@gmail.com
>> -- >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions of >> other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> -Dahlia Lithwick
>> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >> -Napoleon
>> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones >> will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
>> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't matter >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
mmm, i think pretty much teh TS players have always been sayign there are disguises etc. if you believe other players do not know this, then yes someoen should tell teh threads list. not-it.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ahhh. Ok. That is important to tell those of us that haven't been on the > original idea and plotline.... as in, you need to let the Threads list know > this. How in the world would we know about bgas we didn't file.
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:49, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL >> technomages were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter and >> Archibald. so while JET members know that Technomages are involved the >> theory was that none of the workers in the city did... folks spent BGAs to >> cover it up and stuff
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the City, I >>> don't think the disguises are going to work.
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. LOL. >>>> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry them.
>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC chats, >>>> esp >>>> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists comign >>>> to be >>>> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. >>>> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic >>>> scientists. >>>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need help >>>> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what >>>> >> technosphere culture is like.
>>>> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which makes >>>> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has a small >>>> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able to >>>> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their needs. >>>> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to >>>> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire lives in a >>>> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and the >>>> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I think, in a >>>> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still maintain the >>>> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
>>>> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work for Dr. >>>> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech technicians. >>>> In >>>> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the above >>>> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even one of >>>> >> each of those.
>>>> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing characters for a >>>> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would steel >>>> it >>>> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
>>>> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact plot for >>>> them >>>> >> yet.
>>>> > -- >>>> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >>>> convictions of >>>> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >>>> > -Dahlia Lithwick
>>>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >>>> > -Napoleon
>>>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones >>>> will >>>> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
>>>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >>>> matter >>>> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>>> -- >>> Lisa A. Lassner >>> arachn...@gmail.com
>> -- >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions >> of other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> -Dahlia Lithwick
>> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >> -Napoleon
>> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones >> will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
>> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't matter >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> Ahhh. Ok. That is important to tell those of us that haven't been on the
> original idea and plotline.... as in, you need to let the Threads list know
> this. How in the world would we know about bgas we didn't file.
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:49, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL
> > technomages were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter and
> > Archibald. so while JET members know that Technomages are involved the
> > theory was that none of the workers in the city did... folks spent BGAs to
> > cover it up and stuff
> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the City, I
> >> don't think the disguises are going to work.
> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. LOL.
> >>> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry them.
> >>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC chats,
> >>> esp
> >>> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists comign
> >>> to be
> >>> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc.
> >>> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic
> >>> scientists.
> >>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need help
> >>> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what
> >>> >> technosphere culture is like.
> >>> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which makes
> >>> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has a small
> >>> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able to
> >>> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their needs.
> >>> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to
> >>> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire lives in a
> >>> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and the
> >>> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I think, in a
> >>> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still maintain the
> >>> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
> >>> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work for Dr.
> >>> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech technicians. In
> >>> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the above
> >>> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even one of
> >>> >> each of those.
> >>> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing characters for a
> >>> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would steel it
> >>> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
> >>> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact plot for
> >>> them
> >>> >> yet.
> >>> > --
> >>> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions
> >>> of
> >>> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational.
> >>> > -Dahlia Lithwick
> >>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided.
> >>> > -Napoleon
> >>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones
> >>> will
> >>> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
> >>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't
> >>> matter
> >>> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> >> --
> >> Lisa A. Lassner
> >> arachn...@gmail.com
> > --
> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions of
> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational.
> > -Dahlia Lithwick
> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided.
> > -Napoleon
> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones will
> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't matter
> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> --
> Lisa A. Lassner
> arachn...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text -
So my only comment on this is that the "Technomages being in disguise" thing seems to fill one of two categories. 1) A game detail that doesn't matter at all. i.e. All action takes place in an isolated area where Technomages are NOT in disguise, but theoretically when they go out they are. This begs the question "why is this cool and why does it matter."
2) A kludgy inconvenience that just presents an obstacle to roleplay..."oh well there are cast here so we aren't supposed to be technomages."
So...all that said, I don't think it MATTERS very much. It doesn't at all fit the Babylon 5 ethos Andy has been projecting which is why it caught my eye, though maybe somebody can relate it.
Might it be worth asking the PC technomages if they think this is cool and want to sustain it as part of the ethos or ditch it? Just a suggestion. I don't think there's any reason to sustain it because somebody once said it was so.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Eric Smith/SGM Bartholomew Masters <
> On Sep 24, 3:49 pm, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: > > the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL > technomages > > were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter and Archibald. so > > while JET members know that Technomages are involved the theory was that > > none of the workers in the city did... folks spent BGAs to cover it up > and > > stuff
> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the City, > I > > > don't think the disguises are going to work.
> > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. LOL. > > >> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry them.
> > >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC > chats, > > >> esp > > >> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists > comign > > >> to be > > >> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. > > >> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic > > >> scientists. > > >> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote:
> > >> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need help > > >> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what > > >> >> technosphere culture is like.
> > >> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which makes > > >> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has a > small > > >> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able to > > >> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their needs. > > >> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to > > >> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire lives in > a > > >> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and the > > >> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I think, in > a > > >> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still maintain > the > > >> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
> > >> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work for > Dr. > > >> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech technicians. > In > > >> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the above > > >> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even one of > > >> >> each of those.
> > >> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing characters for > a > > >> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would steel > it > > >> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
> > >> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact plot > for > > >> them > > >> >> yet.
> > >> > -- > > >> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious > convictions > > >> of > > >> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > > >> > -Dahlia Lithwick
> > >> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. > > >> > -Napoleon
> > >> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and > stones > > >> will > > >> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
> > >> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't > > >> matter > > >> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> > > -- > > > Lisa A. Lassner > > > arachn...@gmail.com
> > -- > > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions > of > > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > > -Dahlia Lithwick
> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. > > -Napoleon
> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones > will > > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't > matter > > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss- Hide quoted text -
> mmm, i think pretty much teh TS players have always been sayign there are
> disguises etc. if you believe other players do not know this, then yes
> someoen should tell teh threads list. not-it.
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ahhh. Ok. That is important to tell those of us that haven't been on the
> > original idea and plotline.... as in, you need to let the Threads list know
> > this. How in the world would we know about bgas we didn't file.
> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:49, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL
> >> technomages were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter and
> >> Archibald. so while JET members know that Technomages are involved the
> >> theory was that none of the workers in the city did... folks spent BGAs to
> >> cover it up and stuff
> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>> Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the City, I
> >>> don't think the disguises are going to work.
> >>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. LOL.
> >>>> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry them.
> >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC chats,
> >>>> esp
> >>>> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists comign
> >>>> to be
> >>>> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc.
> >>>> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic
> >>>> scientists.
> >>>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need help
> >>>> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what
> >>>> >> technosphere culture is like.
> >>>> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which makes
> >>>> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has a small
> >>>> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able to
> >>>> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their needs.
> >>>> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to
> >>>> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire lives in a
> >>>> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and the
> >>>> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I think, in a
> >>>> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still maintain the
> >>>> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
> >>>> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work for Dr.
> >>>> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech technicians.
> >>>> In
> >>>> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the above
> >>>> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even one of
> >>>> >> each of those.
> >>>> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing characters for a
> >>>> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would steel
> >>>> it
> >>>> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
> >>>> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact plot for
> >>>> them
> >>>> >> yet.
> >>>> > --
> >>>> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious
> >>>> convictions of
> >>>> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational.
> >>>> > -Dahlia Lithwick
> >>>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided.
> >>>> > -Napoleon
> >>>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones
> >>>> will
> >>>> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
> >>>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't
> >>>> matter
> >>>> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> >>> --
> >>> Lisa A. Lassner
> >>> arachn...@gmail.com
> >> --
> >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions
> >> of other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational.
> >> -Dahlia Lithwick
> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided.
> >> -Napoleon
> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones
> >> will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't matter
> >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> > --
> > Lisa A. Lassner
> > arachn...@gmail.com
> --
> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions of
> other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational.
> -Dahlia Lithwick
> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided.
> -Napoleon
> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones will
> teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't matter
> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss- Hide quoted text -
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Gordon Olmstead-Dean <jgod...@gmail.com> wrote: > So my only comment on this is that the "Technomages being in disguise" thing > seems to fill one of two categories. > 1) A game detail that doesn't matter at all. i.e. All action takes place > in an isolated area where Technomages are NOT in disguise, but theoretically > when they go out they are. This begs the question "why is this cool and why > does it matter." > 2) A kludgy inconvenience that just presents an obstacle to roleplay..."oh > well there are cast here so we aren't supposed to be technomages." > So...all that said, I don't think it MATTERS very much. It doesn't at all > fit the Babylon 5 ethos Andy has been projecting which is why it caught my > eye, though maybe somebody can relate it. > Might it be worth asking the PC technomages if they think this is cool and > want to sustain it as part of the ethos or ditch it? Just a suggestion. I > don't think there's any reason to sustain it because somebody once said it > was so.
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Eric Smith/SGM Bartholomew Masters > <eric.sm...@mohnkern.com> wrote:
>> That matches information Kammer gave me.
>> Eric
>> On Sep 24, 3:49 pm, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL >> > technomages >> > were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter and Archibald. so >> > while JET members know that Technomages are involved the theory was that >> > none of the workers in the city did... folks spent BGAs to cover it up >> > and >> > stuff
>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the >> > > City, I >> > > don't think the disguises are going to work.
>> > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. LOL. >> > >> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry them.
>> > >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC >> > >> > chats, >> > >> esp >> > >> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists >> > >> > comign >> > >> to be >> > >> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. >> > >> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic >> > >> scientists. >> > >> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> >> > >> wrote:
>> > >> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need help >> > >> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what >> > >> >> technosphere culture is like.
>> > >> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which makes >> > >> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has a >> > >> >> small >> > >> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able to >> > >> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their needs. >> > >> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to >> > >> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire lives >> > >> >> in a >> > >> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and the >> > >> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I think, >> > >> >> in a >> > >> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still maintain >> > >> >> the >> > >> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
>> > >> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work for >> > >> >> Dr. >> > >> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech technicians. >> > >> >> In >> > >> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the above >> > >> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even one >> > >> >> of >> > >> >> each of those.
>> > >> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing characters >> > >> >> for a >> > >> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would >> > >> >> steel it >> > >> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
>> > >> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact plot >> > >> >> for >> > >> them >> > >> >> yet.
>> > >> > -- >> > >> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >> > >> > convictions >> > >> of >> > >> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> > >> > -Dahlia Lithwick
>> > >> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >> > >> > -Napoleon
>> > >> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and >> > >> > stones >> > >> will >> > >> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. >> > >> > Bernard
>> > >> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >> > >> matter >> > >> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>> > > -- >> > > Lisa A. Lassner >> > > arachn...@gmail.com
>> > -- >> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions >> > of >> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> > -Dahlia Lithwick
>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >> > -Napoleon
>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones >> > will >> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >> > matter >> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss- Hide quoted text -
> Why not? You are actually the ideal person who tracks everything. To > me, you ARE it.
> On Sep 24, 3:53 pm, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: >> mmm, i think pretty much teh TS players have always been sayign there are >> disguises etc. if you believe other players do not know this, then yes >> someoen should tell teh threads list. not-it.
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Ahhh. Ok. That is important to tell those of us that haven't been on the >> > original idea and plotline.... as in, you need to let the Threads list know >> > this. How in the world would we know about bgas we didn't file.
>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:49, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL >> >> technomages were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter and >> >> Archibald. so while JET members know that Technomages are involved the >> >> theory was that none of the workers in the city did... folks spent BGAs to >> >> cover it up and stuff
>> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>> Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the City, I >> >>> don't think the disguises are going to work.
>> >>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. LOL. >> >>>> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry them.
>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC chats, >> >>>> esp >> >>>> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists comign >> >>>> to be >> >>>> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. >> >>>> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic >> >>>> scientists. >> >>>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need help >> >>>> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what >> >>>> >> technosphere culture is like.
>> >>>> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which makes >> >>>> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has a small >> >>>> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able to >> >>>> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their needs. >> >>>> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to >> >>>> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire lives in a >> >>>> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and the >> >>>> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I think, in a >> >>>> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still maintain the >> >>>> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
>> >>>> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work for Dr. >> >>>> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech technicians. >> >>>> In >> >>>> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the above >> >>>> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even one of >> >>>> >> each of those.
>> >>>> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing characters for a >> >>>> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would steel >> >>>> it >> >>>> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
>> >>>> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact plot for >> >>>> them >> >>>> >> yet.
>> >>>> > -- >> >>>> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >> >>>> convictions of >> >>>> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> >>>> > -Dahlia Lithwick
>> >>>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >> >>>> > -Napoleon
>> >>>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones >> >>>> will >> >>>> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
>> >>>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >> >>>> matter >> >>>> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>> >>> -- >> >>> Lisa A. Lassner >> >>> arachn...@gmail.com
>> >> -- >> >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions >> >> of other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> >> -Dahlia Lithwick
>> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >> >> -Napoleon
>> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones >> >> will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
>> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't matter >> >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>> > -- >> > Lisa A. Lassner >> > arachn...@gmail.com
>> -- >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions of >> other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> -Dahlia Lithwick
>> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >> -Napoleon
>> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones will >> teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
>> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't matter >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss- Hide quoted text -
Well it does make a difference, though not necessary at the CoG game. Given that some of the Technomages are people in positions that Nigel's security force would want to make sure were protected, it does matter at least to the people who were dealing with that what was going on. I suggest at least telling the PHMW list.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:57, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh geeze. This is just costuming fun for us. We think its funny. > That's it. It's SOOO not important.
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Gordon Olmstead-Dean <jgod...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > So my only comment on this is that the "Technomages being in disguise" > thing > > seems to fill one of two categories. > > 1) A game detail that doesn't matter at all. i.e. All action takes > place > > in an isolated area where Technomages are NOT in disguise, but > theoretically > > when they go out they are. This begs the question "why is this cool and > why > > does it matter." > > 2) A kludgy inconvenience that just presents an obstacle to > roleplay..."oh > > well there are cast here so we aren't supposed to be technomages." > > So...all that said, I don't think it MATTERS very much. It doesn't at > all > > fit the Babylon 5 ethos Andy has been projecting which is why it caught > my > > eye, though maybe somebody can relate it. > > Might it be worth asking the PC technomages if they think this is cool > and > > want to sustain it as part of the ethos or ditch it? Just a suggestion. > I > > don't think there's any reason to sustain it because somebody once said > it > > was so.
> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Eric Smith/SGM Bartholomew Masters > > <eric.sm...@mohnkern.com> wrote:
> >> That matches information Kammer gave me.
> >> Eric
> >> On Sep 24, 3:49 pm, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL > >> > technomages > >> > were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter and Archibald. > so > >> > while JET members know that Technomages are involved the theory was > that > >> > none of the workers in the city did... folks spent BGAs to cover it > up > >> > and > >> > stuff
> >> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> > > Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the > >> > > City, I > >> > > don't think the disguises are going to work.
> >> > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> >> > >> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. > LOL. > >> > >> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry them.
> >> > >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com
> >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC > >> > >> > chats, > >> > >> esp > >> > >> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists > >> > >> > comign > >> > >> to be > >> > >> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. > >> > >> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic > >> > >> scientists. > >> > >> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need help > >> > >> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what > >> > >> >> technosphere culture is like.
> >> > >> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which makes > >> > >> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has a > >> > >> >> small > >> > >> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able to > >> > >> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their needs. > >> > >> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to > >> > >> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire lives > >> > >> >> in a > >> > >> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and > the > >> > >> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I think, > >> > >> >> in a > >> > >> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still > maintain > >> > >> >> the > >> > >> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
> >> > >> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work for > >> > >> >> Dr. > >> > >> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech > technicians. > >> > >> >> In > >> > >> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the > above > >> > >> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even one > >> > >> >> of > >> > >> >> each of those.
> >> > >> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing characters > >> > >> >> for a > >> > >> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would > >> > >> >> steel it > >> > >> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
> >> > >> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact > plot > >> > >> >> for > >> > >> them > >> > >> >> yet.
> >> > >> > -- > >> > >> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious > >> > >> > convictions > >> > >> of > >> > >> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > >> > >> > -Dahlia Lithwick
> >> > >> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be > avoided. > >> > >> > -Napoleon
> >> > >> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and > >> > >> > stones > >> > >> will > >> > >> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. > >> > >> > Bernard
> >> > >> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind > don't > >> > >> matter > >> > >> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> >> > > -- > >> > > Lisa A. Lassner > >> > > arachn...@gmail.com
> >> > -- > >> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious > convictions > >> > of > >> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > >> > -Dahlia Lithwick
> >> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. > >> > -Napoleon
> >> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones > >> > will > >> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
> >> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't > >> > matter > >> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss- Hide quoted text -
> Why not? You are actually the ideal person who tracks everything. To > me, you ARE it.
> On Sep 24, 3:53 pm, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: > > mmm, i think pretty much teh TS players have always been sayign there are > > disguises etc. if you believe other players do not know this, then yes > > someoen should tell teh threads list. not-it.
> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Ahhh. Ok. That is important to tell those of us that haven't been on > the > > > original idea and plotline.... as in, you need to let the Threads list > know > > > this. How in the world would we know about bgas we didn't file.
> > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:49, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> > >> the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL > > >> technomages were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter and > > >> Archibald. so while JET members know that Technomages are involved > the > > >> theory was that none of the workers in the city did... folks spent > BGAs to > > >> cover it up and stuff
> > >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com > >wrote:
> > >>> Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the > City, I > > >>> don't think the disguises are going to work.
> > >>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> > >>>> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. > LOL. > > >>>> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry them.
> > >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC > chats, > > >>>> esp > > >>>> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists > comign > > >>>> to be > > >>>> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. > > >>>> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic > > >>>> scientists. > > >>>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> > > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need help > > >>>> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what > > >>>> >> technosphere culture is like.
> > >>>> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which makes > > >>>> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has a > small > > >>>> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able to > > >>>> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their needs. > > >>>> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to > > >>>> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire lives > in a > > >>>> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and > the > > >>>> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I think, > in a > > >>>> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still maintain > the > > >>>> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
> > >>>> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work for > Dr. > > >>>> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech > technicians. > > >>>> In > > >>>> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the > above > > >>>> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even one > of > > >>>> >> each of those.
> > >>>> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing characters > for a > > >>>> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would > steel > > >>>> it > > >>>> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
> > >>>> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact plot > for > > >>>> them > > >>>> >> yet.
> > >>>> > -- > > >>>> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious > > >>>> convictions of > > >>>> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > > >>>> > -Dahlia Lithwick
> > >>>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be > avoided. > > >>>> > -Napoleon
> > >>>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and > stones > > >>>> will > > >>>> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. > Bernard
> > >>>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind > don't > > >>>> matter > > >>>> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> > >>> -- > > >>> Lisa A. Lassner > > >>> arachn...@gmail.com
> > >> -- > > >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious > convictions > > >> of other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > > >> -Dahlia Lithwick
> > >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. > > >> -Napoleon
> > >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones > > >> will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. > Bernard
> > >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't > matter > > >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> > > -- > > > Lisa A. Lassner > > > arachn...@gmail.com
> > -- > > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions > of > > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > > -Dahlia Lithwick
> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. > > -Napoleon
> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones > will > > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't > matter > > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss- Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -
-- ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions of other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. -Dahlia Lithwick
The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. -Napoleon
You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> So my only comment on this is that the "Technomages being in disguise" > thing seems to fill one of two categories. > 1) A game detail that doesn't matter at all. i.e. All action takes place > in an isolated area where Technomages are NOT in disguise, but theoretically > when they go out they are. This begs the question "why is this cool and why > does it matter."
> 2) A kludgy inconvenience that just presents an obstacle to roleplay..."oh > well there are cast here so we aren't supposed to be technomages."
> So...all that said, I don't think it MATTERS very much. It doesn't at all > fit the Babylon 5 ethos Andy has been projecting which is why it caught my > eye, though maybe somebody can relate it.
> Might it be worth asking the PC technomages if they think this is cool and > want to sustain it as part of the ethos or ditch it? Just a suggestion. I > don't think there's any reason to sustain it because somebody once said it > was so.
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Eric Smith/SGM Bartholomew Masters < > eric.sm...@mohnkern.com> wrote:
>> That matches information Kammer gave me.
>> Eric
>> On Sep 24, 3:49 pm, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL >> technomages >> > were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter and Archibald. so >> > while JET members know that Technomages are involved the theory was that >> > none of the workers in the city did... folks spent BGAs to cover it up >> and >> > stuff
>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > > Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the >> City, I >> > > don't think the disguises are going to work.
>> > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> >> wrote:
>> > >> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. LOL. >> > >> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry them.
>> > >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC >> chats, >> > >> esp >> > >> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists >> comign >> > >> to be >> > >> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. >> > >> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic >> > >> scientists. >> > >> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> >> > >> wrote:
>> > >> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need help >> > >> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what >> > >> >> technosphere culture is like.
>> > >> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which makes >> > >> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has a >> small >> > >> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able to >> > >> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their needs. >> > >> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to >> > >> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire lives >> in a >> > >> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and the >> > >> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I think, >> in a >> > >> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still maintain >> the >> > >> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
>> > >> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work for >> Dr. >> > >> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech technicians. >> In >> > >> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the above >> > >> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even one >> of >> > >> >> each of those.
>> > >> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing characters >> for a >> > >> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would >> steel it >> > >> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
>> > >> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact plot >> for >> > >> them >> > >> >> yet.
>> > >> > -- >> > >> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >> convictions >> > >> of >> > >> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> > >> > -Dahlia Lithwick
>> > >> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >> > >> > -Napoleon
>> > >> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and >> stones >> > >> will >> > >> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. >> Bernard
>> > >> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >> > >> matter >> > >> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>> > > -- >> > > Lisa A. Lassner >> > > arachn...@gmail.com
>> > -- >> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions >> of >> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> > -Dahlia Lithwick
>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >> > -Napoleon
>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones >> will >> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >> matter >> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss- Hide quoted text -
>> > - Show quoted text -
-- ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions of other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. -Dahlia Lithwick
The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. -Napoleon
You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> LOL yes. Everyone email the main list so that everyone knows that Dr. > Archibald will be wearing a sombraro. Not important. It's flavor.
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Eric Smith/SGM Bartholomew Masters > <eric.sm...@mohnkern.com> wrote:
> > Why not? You are actually the ideal person who tracks everything. To > > me, you ARE it.
> > On Sep 24, 3:53 pm, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> mmm, i think pretty much teh TS players have always been sayign there > are > >> disguises etc. if you believe other players do not know this, then yes > >> someoen should tell teh threads list. not-it.
> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > Ahhh. Ok. That is important to tell those of us that haven't been on > the > >> > original idea and plotline.... as in, you need to let the Threads list > know > >> > this. How in the world would we know about bgas we didn't file.
> >> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:49, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> >> >> the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL > >> >> technomages were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter and > >> >> Archibald. so while JET members know that Technomages are involved > the > >> >> theory was that none of the workers in the city did... folks spent > BGAs to > >> >> cover it up and stuff
> >> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com > >wrote:
> >> >>> Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the > City, I > >> >>> don't think the disguises are going to work.
> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> >> >>>> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. > LOL. > >> >>>> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry them.
> >> >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com
> >> >>>> wrote: > >> >>>> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC > chats, > >> >>>> esp > >> >>>> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists > comign > >> >>>> to be > >> >>>> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. > >> >>>> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic > >> >>>> scientists. > >> >>>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need help > >> >>>> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what > >> >>>> >> technosphere culture is like.
> >> >>>> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which makes > >> >>>> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has a > small > >> >>>> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able to > >> >>>> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their needs. > >> >>>> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to > >> >>>> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire lives > in a > >> >>>> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and > the > >> >>>> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I think, > in a > >> >>>> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still > maintain the > >> >>>> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
> >> >>>> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work for > Dr. > >> >>>> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech > technicians. > >> >>>> In > >> >>>> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the > above > >> >>>> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even one > of > >> >>>> >> each of those.
> >> >>>> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing characters > for a > >> >>>> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would > steel > >> >>>> it > >> >>>> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
> >> >>>> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact > plot for > >> >>>> them > >> >>>> >> yet.
> >> >>>> > -- > >> >>>> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious > >> >>>> convictions of > >> >>>> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > >> >>>> > -Dahlia Lithwick
> >> >>>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be > avoided. > >> >>>> > -Napoleon
> >> >>>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and > stones > >> >>>> will > >> >>>> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. > Bernard
> >> >>>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind > don't > >> >>>> matter > >> >>>> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> >> >>> -- > >> >>> Lisa A. Lassner > >> >>> arachn...@gmail.com
> >> >> -- > >> >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious > convictions > >> >> of other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > >> >> -Dahlia Lithwick
> >> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. > >> >> -Napoleon
> >> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and > stones > >> >> will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. > Bernard
> >> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't > matter > >> >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> >> > -- > >> > Lisa A. Lassner > >> > arachn...@gmail.com
> >> -- > >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions > of > >> other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > >> -Dahlia Lithwick
> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. > >> -Napoleon
> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones > will > >> teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't > matter > >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss- Hide quoted text -
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:53, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah. So like, you know who we are. But a stranger wouldn't say OMG > a technomage!
> So that's why Bethany will be wearing a megacorp business suit, and a > hidden staff - she can turn it into a briefcase. I dont know what the > guys are wearing!
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ahhh. Ok. That is important to tell those of us that haven't been on > the > > original idea and plotline.... as in, you need to let the Threads list > know > > this. How in the world would we know about bgas we didn't file.
> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:49, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL > >> technomages were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter and > >> Archibald. so while JET members know that Technomages are involved the > >> theory was that none of the workers in the city did... folks spent BGAs > to > >> cover it up and stuff
> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> >>> Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the City, > I > >>> don't think the disguises are going to work.
> >>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. LOL. > >>>> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry them.
> >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC > chats, > >>>> > esp > >>>> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists > comign > >>>> > to be > >>>> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. > >>>> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic > >>>> > scientists. > >>>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> > >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need help > >>>> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what > >>>> >> technosphere culture is like.
> >>>> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which makes > >>>> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has a > small > >>>> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able to > >>>> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their needs. > >>>> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to > >>>> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire lives in > a > >>>> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and the > >>>> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I think, in > a > >>>> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still maintain > the > >>>> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
> >>>> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work for > Dr. > >>>> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech technicians. > >>>> >> In > >>>> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the above > >>>> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even one of > >>>> >> each of those.
> >>>> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing characters for > a > >>>> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would steel > >>>> >> it > >>>> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
> >>>> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact plot > for > >>>> >> them > >>>> >> yet.
> >>>> > -- > >>>> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious > >>>> > convictions of > >>>> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > >>>> > -Dahlia Lithwick
> >>>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. > >>>> > -Napoleon
> >>>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and > stones > >>>> > will > >>>> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
> >>>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't > >>>> > matter > >>>> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> >>> -- > >>> Lisa A. Lassner > >>> arachn...@gmail.com
> >> -- > >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions > of > >> other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > >> -Dahlia Lithwick
> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. > >> -Napoleon
> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones > >> will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. > Bernard
> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't > matter > >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> > -- > > Lisa A. Lassner > > arachn...@gmail.com
Go for it, but Im gonna wear what I wana wear. :p It was my idea. We giggled about it. It's because the cultists want to kill us. You still know who we are.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: > no one listens to me :) and this is important so therefore it should come > from someone else.
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Eric Smith/SGM Bartholomew Masters > <eric.sm...@mohnkern.com> wrote:
>> Why not? You are actually the ideal person who tracks everything. To >> me, you ARE it.
>> On Sep 24, 3:53 pm, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > mmm, i think pretty much teh TS players have always been sayign there >> > are >> > disguises etc. if you believe other players do not know this, then yes >> > someoen should tell teh threads list. not-it.
>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > Ahhh. Ok. That is important to tell those of us that haven't been on >> > > the >> > > original idea and plotline.... as in, you need to let the Threads list >> > > know >> > > this. How in the world would we know about bgas we didn't file.
>> > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:49, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> >> > > wrote:
>> > >> the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL >> > >> technomages were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter and >> > >> Archibald. so while JET members know that Technomages are involved >> > >> the >> > >> theory was that none of the workers in the city did... folks spent >> > >> BGAs to >> > >> cover it up and stuff
>> > >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner >> > >> <arachn...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >>> Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the >> > >>> City, I >> > >>> don't think the disguises are going to work.
>> > >>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> >> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>>> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. >> > >>>> LOL. >> > >>>> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry them.
>> > >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> >> > >>>> wrote: >> > >>>> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC >> > >>>> > chats, >> > >>>> esp >> > >>>> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists >> > >>>> > comign >> > >>>> to be >> > >>>> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. >> > >>>> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic >> > >>>> scientists. >> > >>>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> >> > >>>> wrote:
>> > >>>> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need help >> > >>>> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what >> > >>>> >> technosphere culture is like.
>> > >>>> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which makes >> > >>>> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has a >> > >>>> >> small >> > >>>> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able to >> > >>>> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their needs. >> > >>>> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to >> > >>>> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire lives >> > >>>> >> in a >> > >>>> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and >> > >>>> >> the >> > >>>> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I think, >> > >>>> >> in a >> > >>>> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still >> > >>>> >> maintain the >> > >>>> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
>> > >>>> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work for >> > >>>> >> Dr. >> > >>>> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech >> > >>>> >> technicians. >> > >>>> In >> > >>>> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the >> > >>>> >> above >> > >>>> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even one >> > >>>> >> of >> > >>>> >> each of those.
>> > >>>> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing characters >> > >>>> >> for a >> > >>>> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would >> > >>>> >> steel >> > >>>> it >> > >>>> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
>> > >>>> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact >> > >>>> >> plot for >> > >>>> them >> > >>>> >> yet.
>> > >>>> > -- >> > >>>> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >> > >>>> convictions of >> > >>>> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> > >>>> > -Dahlia Lithwick
>> > >>>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be >> > >>>> > avoided. >> > >>>> > -Napoleon
>> > >>>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and >> > >>>> > stones >> > >>>> will >> > >>>> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. >> > >>>> > Bernard
>> > >>>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind >> > >>>> > don't >> > >>>> matter >> > >>>> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>> > >>> -- >> > >>> Lisa A. Lassner >> > >>> arachn...@gmail.com
>> > >> -- >> > >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >> > >> convictions >> > >> of other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> > >> -Dahlia Lithwick
>> > >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >> > >> -Napoleon
>> > >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and >> > >> stones >> > >> will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. >> > >> Bernard
>> > >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >> > >> matter >> > >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>> > > -- >> > > Lisa A. Lassner >> > > arachn...@gmail.com
>> > -- >> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions >> > of >> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> > -Dahlia Lithwick
>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >> > -Napoleon
>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones >> > will >> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >> > matter >> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss- Hide quoted text -
>> > - Show quoted text -
> -- > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions of > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > -Dahlia Lithwick
> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. > -Napoleon
> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones will > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't matter > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
Yeah, I got the impression that the disguises weren't even very good, and was OOC mostly to surprise the JET folk who aren't going to be fooled "oh hey Winter is wearing... pink?"
However it should prolly be leaked to the main list so that people don't think y'all are casting.
On 9/24/09, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh geeze. This is just costuming fun for us. We think its funny. > That's it. It's SOOO not important.
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Gordon Olmstead-Dean <jgod...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> So my only comment on this is that the "Technomages being in disguise" >> thing >> seems to fill one of two categories. >> 1) A game detail that doesn't matter at all. i.e. All action takes place >> in an isolated area where Technomages are NOT in disguise, but >> theoretically >> when they go out they are. This begs the question "why is this cool and >> why >> does it matter." >> 2) A kludgy inconvenience that just presents an obstacle to roleplay..."oh >> well there are cast here so we aren't supposed to be technomages." >> So...all that said, I don't think it MATTERS very much. It doesn't at all >> fit the Babylon 5 ethos Andy has been projecting which is why it caught my >> eye, though maybe somebody can relate it. >> Might it be worth asking the PC technomages if they think this is cool and >> want to sustain it as part of the ethos or ditch it? Just a suggestion. I >> don't think there's any reason to sustain it because somebody once said it >> was so.
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Eric Smith/SGM Bartholomew Masters >> <eric.sm...@mohnkern.com> wrote:
>>> That matches information Kammer gave me.
>>> Eric
>>> On Sep 24, 3:49 pm, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL >>> > technomages >>> > were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter and Archibald. so >>> > while JET members know that Technomages are involved the theory was >>> > that >>> > none of the workers in the city did... folks spent BGAs to cover it up >>> > and >>> > stuff
>>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> > > Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the >>> > > City, I >>> > > don't think the disguises are going to work.
>>> > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> >>> > > wrote:
>>> > >> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. >>> > >> LOL. >>> > >> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry them.
>>> > >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> >>> > >> wrote: >>> > >> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC >>> > >> > chats, >>> > >> esp >>> > >> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists >>> > >> > comign >>> > >> to be >>> > >> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. >>> > >> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic >>> > >> scientists. >>> > >> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> >>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need help >>> > >> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what >>> > >> >> technosphere culture is like.
>>> > >> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which makes >>> > >> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has a >>> > >> >> small >>> > >> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able to >>> > >> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their needs. >>> > >> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to >>> > >> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire lives >>> > >> >> in a >>> > >> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and >>> > >> >> the >>> > >> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I think, >>> > >> >> in a >>> > >> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still maintain >>> > >> >> the >>> > >> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
>>> > >> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work for >>> > >> >> Dr. >>> > >> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech >>> > >> >> technicians. >>> > >> >> In >>> > >> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the >>> > >> >> above >>> > >> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even one >>> > >> >> of >>> > >> >> each of those.
>>> > >> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing characters >>> > >> >> for a >>> > >> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would >>> > >> >> steel it >>> > >> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
>>> > >> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact plot >>> > >> >> for >>> > >> them >>> > >> >> yet.
>>> > >> > -- >>> > >> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >>> > >> > convictions >>> > >> of >>> > >> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >>> > >> > -Dahlia Lithwick
>>> > >> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be >>> > >> > avoided. >>> > >> > -Napoleon
>>> > >> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and >>> > >> > stones >>> > >> will >>> > >> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. >>> > >> > Bernard
>>> > >> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind >>> > >> > don't >>> > >> matter >>> > >> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>>> > > -- >>> > > Lisa A. Lassner >>> > > arachn...@gmail.com
>>> > -- >>> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions >>> > of >>> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >>> > -Dahlia Lithwick
>>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >>> > -Napoleon
>>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones >>> > will >>> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
>>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >>> > matter >>> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss- Hide quoted text -
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Okay. Let me put one more thing forward here. There is also the part where this becomes "the NPCs are all idiots" and that strikes me as uncool.
If Archibald is one of the most important people around, even if he's not addressed that way, nobody woud NOT know that, unless there were great efforts to keep it a secret.
I'm not averse in principle to saying that the CoG exists in a nutty wackyland where ordinary people behave like imbeciles and don't realize things like "that guy everybody is talking to is Archibald"
But....I think that belittles the cast characters and Midwesterners we're writing.
I think on the disguise thing coming up with some sort of consistent statement on how it exists, how it works and how it is and isn't implemented rises above the "just hand wave it" level and becomes something people need to know to write cast for the game. I know I do. I don't feel like writing a holler boss who is too stupid to realize that the physical description of Archibald matches the important guy in the sombrero...
I think this is worth getting some sort of uniform concept together on...
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> LOL yes. Everyone email the main list so that everyone knows that Dr. > Archibald will be wearing a sombraro. Not important. It's flavor.
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Eric Smith/SGM Bartholomew Masters > <eric.sm...@mohnkern.com> wrote:
> > Why not? You are actually the ideal person who tracks everything. To > > me, you ARE it.
> > On Sep 24, 3:53 pm, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> mmm, i think pretty much teh TS players have always been sayign there > are > >> disguises etc. if you believe other players do not know this, then yes > >> someoen should tell teh threads list. not-it.
> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > Ahhh. Ok. That is important to tell those of us that haven't been on > the > >> > original idea and plotline.... as in, you need to let the Threads list > know > >> > this. How in the world would we know about bgas we didn't file.
> >> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:49, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> >> >> the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL > >> >> technomages were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter and > >> >> Archibald. so while JET members know that Technomages are involved > the > >> >> theory was that none of the workers in the city did... folks spent > BGAs to > >> >> cover it up and stuff
> >> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com > >wrote:
> >> >>> Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the > City, I > >> >>> don't think the disguises are going to work.
> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> >> >>>> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. > LOL. > >> >>>> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry them.
> >> >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com
> >> >>>> wrote: > >> >>>> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC > chats, > >> >>>> esp > >> >>>> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists > comign > >> >>>> to be > >> >>>> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. > >> >>>> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic > >> >>>> scientists. > >> >>>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need help > >> >>>> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what > >> >>>> >> technosphere culture is like.
> >> >>>> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which makes > >> >>>> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has a > small > >> >>>> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able to > >> >>>> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their needs. > >> >>>> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to > >> >>>> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire lives > in a > >> >>>> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and > the > >> >>>> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I think, > in a > >> >>>> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still > maintain the > >> >>>> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
> >> >>>> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work for > Dr. > >> >>>> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech > technicians. > >> >>>> In > >> >>>> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the > above > >> >>>> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even one > of > >> >>>> >> each of those.
> >> >>>> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing characters > for a > >> >>>> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would > steel > >> >>>> it > >> >>>> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
> >> >>>> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact > plot for > >> >>>> them > >> >>>> >> yet.
> >> >>>> > -- > >> >>>> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious > >> >>>> convictions of > >> >>>> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > >> >>>> > -Dahlia Lithwick
> >> >>>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be > avoided. > >> >>>> > -Napoleon
> >> >>>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and > stones > >> >>>> will > >> >>>> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. > Bernard
> >> >>>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind > don't > >> >>>> matter > >> >>>> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> >> >>> -- > >> >>> Lisa A. Lassner > >> >>> arachn...@gmail.com
> >> >> -- > >> >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious > convictions > >> >> of other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > >> >> -Dahlia Lithwick
> >> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. > >> >> -Napoleon
> >> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and > stones > >> >> will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. > Bernard
> >> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't > matter > >> >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> >> > -- > >> > Lisa A. Lassner > >> > arachn...@gmail.com
> >> -- > >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions > of > >> other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > >> -Dahlia Lithwick
> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. > >> -Napoleon
> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones > will > >> teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't > matter > >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss- Hide quoted text -
On 9/24/09, Eric Smith <eric.sm...@mohnkern.com> wrote:
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doall the holler bosses have physical descriptions of all technomages? cause if not, all they know is that there is an important engineer form out-thread and he is important(tm). they are not disguized as janitors or anything. jsut nto technomages...
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Gordon Olmstead-Dean <jgod...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Okay. Let me put one more thing forward here. > There is also the part where this becomes "the NPCs are all idiots" and > that strikes me as uncool.
> If Archibald is one of the most important people around, even if he's not > addressed that way, nobody woud NOT know that, unless there were great > efforts to keep it a secret.
> I'm not averse in principle to saying that the CoG exists in a nutty > wackyland where ordinary people behave like imbeciles and don't realize > things like "that guy everybody is talking to is Archibald"
> But....I think that belittles the cast characters and Midwesterners we're > writing.
> I think on the disguise thing coming up with some sort of consistent > statement on how it exists, how it works and how it is and isn't implemented > rises above the "just hand wave it" level and becomes something people need > to know to write cast for the game. I know I do. I don't feel like writing > a holler boss who is too stupid to realize that the physical description of > Archibald matches the important guy in the sombrero...
> I think this is worth getting some sort of uniform concept together on...
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> LOL yes. Everyone email the main list so that everyone knows that Dr. >> Archibald will be wearing a sombraro. Not important. It's flavor.
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Eric Smith/SGM Bartholomew Masters >> <eric.sm...@mohnkern.com> wrote:
>> > Why not? You are actually the ideal person who tracks everything. To >> > me, you ARE it.
>> > On Sep 24, 3:53 pm, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> mmm, i think pretty much teh TS players have always been sayign there >> are >> >> disguises etc. if you believe other players do not know this, then yes >> >> someoen should tell teh threads list. not-it.
>> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Ahhh. Ok. That is important to tell those of us that haven't been >> on the >> >> > original idea and plotline.... as in, you need to let the Threads >> list know >> >> > this. How in the world would we know about bgas we didn't file.
>> >> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:49, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> >> wrote:
>> >> >> the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL >> >> >> technomages were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter and >> >> >> Archibald. so while JET members know that Technomages are involved >> the >> >> >> theory was that none of the workers in the city did... folks spent >> BGAs to >> >> >> cover it up and stuff
>> >> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com >> >wrote:
>> >> >>> Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the >> City, I >> >> >>> don't think the disguises are going to work.
>> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. >> LOL. >> >> >>>> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry >> them.
>> >> >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley < >> arbrad...@gmail.com> >> >> >>>> wrote: >> >> >>>> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC >> chats, >> >> >>>> esp >> >> >>>> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists >> comign >> >> >>>> to be >> >> >>>> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. >> >> >>>> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic >> >> >>>> scientists. >> >> >>>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt < >> cgr...@gmail.com> >> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need >> help >> >> >>>> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what >> >> >>>> >> technosphere culture is like.
>> >> >>>> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which >> makes >> >> >>>> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has a >> small >> >> >>>> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able >> to >> >> >>>> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their >> needs. >> >> >>>> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to >> >> >>>> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire >> lives in a >> >> >>>> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and >> the >> >> >>>> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I >> think, in a >> >> >>>> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still >> maintain the >> >> >>>> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
>> >> >>>> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work >> for Dr. >> >> >>>> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech >> technicians. >> >> >>>> In >> >> >>>> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the >> above >> >> >>>> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even >> one of >> >> >>>> >> each of those.
>> >> >>>> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing characters >> for a >> >> >>>> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would >> steel >> >> >>>> it >> >> >>>> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
>> >> >>>> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact >> plot for >> >> >>>> them >> >> >>>> >> yet.
>> >> >>>> > -- >> >> >>>> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >> >> >>>> convictions of >> >> >>>> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> >> >>>> > -Dahlia Lithwick
>> >> >>>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be >> avoided. >> >> >>>> > -Napoleon
>> >> >>>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and >> stones >> >> >>>> will >> >> >>>> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. >> Bernard
>> >> >>>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind >> don't >> >> >>>> matter >> >> >>>> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> Lisa A. Lassner >> >> >>> arachn...@gmail.com
>> >> >> -- >> >> >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >> convictions >> >> >> of other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> >> >> -Dahlia Lithwick
>> >> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >> >> >> -Napoleon
>> >> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and >> stones >> >> >> will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. >> Bernard
>> >> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >> matter >> >> >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>> >> > -- >> >> > Lisa A. Lassner >> >> > arachn...@gmail.com
>> >> -- >> >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions >> of >> >> other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> >> -Dahlia Lithwick
>> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >> >> -Napoleon
>> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones >> will >> >> teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
>> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >> matter >> >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss- Hide quoted text -
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-- ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions of other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. -Dahlia Lithwick
The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. -Napoleon
You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
Maybe the cultists are more powerful than I thought.
I was IN a scene. That the cultists were morons. Seriously. I was standing right there. "Technomages are evil, kill her." And grayer stopped them. They were like "OK" That's my only encounter.
So yes, I'm assuming we wear it just so we can walk around the city and not be a famous target, but people who are supposed to be there would know who we are.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Gordon Olmstead-Dean <jgod...@gmail.com> wrote: > Okay. Let me put one more thing forward here. > There is also the part where this becomes "the NPCs are all idiots" and that > strikes me as uncool. > If Archibald is one of the most important people around, even if he's not > addressed that way, nobody woud NOT know that, unless there were great > efforts to keep it a secret. > I'm not averse in principle to saying that the CoG exists in a nutty > wackyland where ordinary people behave like imbeciles and don't realize > things like "that guy everybody is talking to is Archibald" > But....I think that belittles the cast characters and Midwesterners we're > writing. > I think on the disguise thing coming up with some sort of consistent > statement on how it exists, how it works and how it is and isn't implemented > rises above the "just hand wave it" level and becomes something people need > to know to write cast for the game. I know I do. I don't feel like writing > a holler boss who is too stupid to realize that the physical description of > Archibald matches the important guy in the sombrero... > I think this is worth getting some sort of uniform concept together on...
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> LOL yes. Everyone email the main list so that everyone knows that Dr. >> Archibald will be wearing a sombraro. Not important. It's flavor.
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Eric Smith/SGM Bartholomew Masters >> <eric.sm...@mohnkern.com> wrote:
>> > Why not? You are actually the ideal person who tracks everything. To >> > me, you ARE it.
>> > On Sep 24, 3:53 pm, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> mmm, i think pretty much teh TS players have always been sayign there >> >> are >> >> disguises etc. if you believe other players do not know this, then yes >> >> someoen should tell teh threads list. not-it.
>> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Ahhh. Ok. That is important to tell those of us that haven't been >> >> > on the >> >> > original idea and plotline.... as in, you need to let the Threads >> >> > list know >> >> > this. How in the world would we know about bgas we didn't file.
>> >> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:49, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL >> >> >> technomages were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter and >> >> >> Archibald. so while JET members know that Technomages are involved >> >> >> the >> >> >> theory was that none of the workers in the city did... folks spent >> >> >> BGAs to >> >> >> cover it up and stuff
>> >> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner >> >> >> <arachn...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >>> Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the >> >> >>> City, I >> >> >>> don't think the disguises are going to work.
>> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> >> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. >> >> >>>> LOL. >> >> >>>> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry >> >> >>>> them.
>> >> >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley >> >> >>>> <arbrad...@gmail.com> >> >> >>>> wrote: >> >> >>>> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC >> >> >>>> > chats, >> >> >>>> esp >> >> >>>> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists >> >> >>>> > comign >> >> >>>> to be >> >> >>>> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. >> >> >>>> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic >> >> >>>> scientists. >> >> >>>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt >> >> >>>> > <cgr...@gmail.com> >> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need >> >> >>>> >> help >> >> >>>> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what >> >> >>>> >> technosphere culture is like.
>> >> >>>> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which >> >> >>>> >> makes >> >> >>>> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has a >> >> >>>> >> small >> >> >>>> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able >> >> >>>> >> to >> >> >>>> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their >> >> >>>> >> needs. >> >> >>>> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to >> >> >>>> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire >> >> >>>> >> lives in a >> >> >>>> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and >> >> >>>> >> the >> >> >>>> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I >> >> >>>> >> think, in a >> >> >>>> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still >> >> >>>> >> maintain the >> >> >>>> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
>> >> >>>> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work >> >> >>>> >> for Dr. >> >> >>>> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech >> >> >>>> >> technicians. >> >> >>>> In >> >> >>>> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the >> >> >>>> >> above >> >> >>>> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even >> >> >>>> >> one of >> >> >>>> >> each of those.
>> >> >>>> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing characters >> >> >>>> >> for a >> >> >>>> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would >> >> >>>> >> steel >> >> >>>> it >> >> >>>> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
>> >> >>>> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact >> >> >>>> >> plot for >> >> >>>> them >> >> >>>> >> yet.
>> >> >>>> > -- >> >> >>>> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >> >> >>>> convictions of >> >> >>>> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> >> >>>> > -Dahlia Lithwick
>> >> >>>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be >> >> >>>> > avoided. >> >> >>>> > -Napoleon
>> >> >>>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and >> >> >>>> > stones >> >> >>>> will >> >> >>>> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. >> >> >>>> > Bernard
>> >> >>>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind >> >> >>>> > don't >> >> >>>> matter >> >> >>>> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> Lisa A. Lassner >> >> >>> arachn...@gmail.com
>> >> >> -- >> >> >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >> >> >> convictions >> >> >> of other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> >> >> -Dahlia Lithwick
>> >> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >> >> >> -Napoleon
>> >> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and >> >> >> stones >> >> >> will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. >> >> >> Bernard
>> >> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >> >> >> matter >> >> >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>> >> > -- >> >> > Lisa A. Lassner >> >> > arachn...@gmail.com
>> >> -- >> >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions >> >> of >> >> other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> >> -Dahlia Lithwick
>> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >> >> -Napoleon
>> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones >> >> will >> >> teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
>> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >> >> matter >> >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss- Hide quoted text -
Also - I was not aware that people knew that the technosphere was still involved in engineering the project. I imagine the city of glass being so huge, that no would would really notice or care who engineered the hypertech, and oversaw the project that got them put in correctly.
I guess, that's why we have to talk, so we all have the same vision.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: > doall the holler bosses have physical descriptions of all technomages? > cause if not, all they know is that there is an important engineer form > out-thread and he is important(tm). they are not disguized as janitors or > anything. jsut nto technomages...
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Gordon Olmstead-Dean <jgod...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> Okay. Let me put one more thing forward here. >> There is also the part where this becomes "the NPCs are all idiots" and >> that strikes me as uncool. >> If Archibald is one of the most important people around, even if he's not >> addressed that way, nobody woud NOT know that, unless there were great >> efforts to keep it a secret. >> I'm not averse in principle to saying that the CoG exists in a nutty >> wackyland where ordinary people behave like imbeciles and don't realize >> things like "that guy everybody is talking to is Archibald" >> But....I think that belittles the cast characters and Midwesterners we're >> writing. >> I think on the disguise thing coming up with some sort of consistent >> statement on how it exists, how it works and how it is and isn't implemented >> rises above the "just hand wave it" level and becomes something people need >> to know to write cast for the game. I know I do. I don't feel like writing >> a holler boss who is too stupid to realize that the physical description of >> Archibald matches the important guy in the sombrero... >> I think this is worth getting some sort of uniform concept together on...
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> LOL yes. Everyone email the main list so that everyone knows that Dr. >>> Archibald will be wearing a sombraro. Not important. It's flavor.
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Eric Smith/SGM Bartholomew Masters >>> <eric.sm...@mohnkern.com> wrote:
>>> > Why not? You are actually the ideal person who tracks everything. To >>> > me, you ARE it.
>>> > On Sep 24, 3:53 pm, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> mmm, i think pretty much teh TS players have always been sayign there >>> >> are >>> >> disguises etc. if you believe other players do not know this, then >>> >> yes >>> >> someoen should tell teh threads list. not-it.
>>> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > Ahhh. Ok. That is important to tell those of us that haven't been >>> >> > on the >>> >> > original idea and plotline.... as in, you need to let the Threads >>> >> > list know >>> >> > this. How in the world would we know about bgas we didn't file.
>>> >> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:49, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> >>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL >>> >> >> technomages were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter >>> >> >> and >>> >> >> Archibald. so while JET members know that Technomages are involved >>> >> >> the >>> >> >> theory was that none of the workers in the city did... folks spent >>> >> >> BGAs to >>> >> >> cover it up and stuff
>>> >> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner >>> >> >> <arachn...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >> >>> Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the >>> >> >>> City, I >>> >> >>> don't think the disguises are going to work.
>>> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> >>> >> >>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. >>> >> >>>> LOL. >>> >> >>>> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry >>> >> >>>> them.
>>> >> >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley >>> >> >>>> <arbrad...@gmail.com> >>> >> >>>> wrote: >>> >> >>>> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC >>> >> >>>> > chats, >>> >> >>>> esp >>> >> >>>> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists >>> >> >>>> > comign >>> >> >>>> to be >>> >> >>>> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. >>> >> >>>> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic >>> >> >>>> scientists. >>> >> >>>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt >>> >> >>>> > <cgr...@gmail.com> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need >>> >> >>>> >> help >>> >> >>>> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what >>> >> >>>> >> technosphere culture is like.
>>> >> >>>> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which >>> >> >>>> >> makes >>> >> >>>> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has >>> >> >>>> >> a small >>> >> >>>> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able >>> >> >>>> >> to >>> >> >>>> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their >>> >> >>>> >> needs. >>> >> >>>> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to >>> >> >>>> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire >>> >> >>>> >> lives in a >>> >> >>>> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and >>> >> >>>> >> the >>> >> >>>> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I >>> >> >>>> >> think, in a >>> >> >>>> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still >>> >> >>>> >> maintain the >>> >> >>>> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
>>> >> >>>> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work >>> >> >>>> >> for Dr. >>> >> >>>> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech >>> >> >>>> >> technicians. >>> >> >>>> In >>> >> >>>> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the >>> >> >>>> >> above >>> >> >>>> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even >>> >> >>>> >> one of >>> >> >>>> >> each of those.
>>> >> >>>> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing >>> >> >>>> >> characters for a >>> >> >>>> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would >>> >> >>>> >> steel >>> >> >>>> it >>> >> >>>> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
>>> >> >>>> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact >>> >> >>>> >> plot for >>> >> >>>> them >>> >> >>>> >> yet.
>>> >> >>>> > -- >>> >> >>>> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >>> >> >>>> convictions of >>> >> >>>> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >>> >> >>>> > -Dahlia Lithwick
>>> >> >>>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be >>> >> >>>> > avoided. >>> >> >>>> > -Napoleon
>>> >> >>>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and >>> >> >>>> > stones >>> >> >>>> will >>> >> >>>> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. >>> >> >>>> > Bernard
>>> >> >>>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind >>> >> >>>> > don't >>> >> >>>> matter >>> >> >>>> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>>> >> >>> -- >>> >> >>> Lisa A. Lassner >>> >> >>> arachn...@gmail.com
>>> >> >> -- >>> >> >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >>> >> >> convictions >>> >> >> of other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >>> >> >> -Dahlia Lithwick
>>> >> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >>> >> >> -Napoleon
>>> >> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and >>> >> >> stones >>> >> >> will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. >>> >> >> Bernard
>>> >> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >>> >> >> matter >>> >> >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>>> >> > -- >>> >> > Lisa A. Lassner >>> >> > arachn...@gmail.com
>>> >> -- >>> >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >>> >> convictions of >>> >> other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >>> >> -Dahlia Lithwick
>>> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >>> >> -Napoleon
>>> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones >>> >> will >>> >> teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
>>> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >>> >> matter >>> >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss- Hide quoted text -
>>> >> - Show quoted text -
> -- > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions of > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > -Dahlia Lithwick
> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. > -Napoleon
> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones will > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't matter > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
What we have here is genre clash. There are cute funny scenes and stupid cultists. There are writers who told players to go ahead and do this cute funny thing.
I don't think we need to make ourselves crazy here. Gordon, your Holla Boss will recognize Archibald unless there's a reason he shouldn't. Mind you, there is no television, very few photographs, and word of mouth descriptions are infamously inaccurate. Arguably, most people recognize Technomages as the guy what doesn't have shit all over him.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe the cultists are more powerful than I thought.
> I was IN a scene. That the cultists were morons. Seriously. I was > standing right there. "Technomages are evil, kill her." And grayer > stopped them. They were like "OK" That's my only encounter.
> So yes, I'm assuming we wear it just so we can walk around the city > and not be a famous target, but people who are supposed to be there > would know who we are.
> But if that's not the case, fine. I'm amused.
> I gtg so I wont respond for a while.
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Gordon Olmstead-Dean <jgod...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Okay. Let me put one more thing forward here. > > There is also the part where this becomes "the NPCs are all idiots" and > that > > strikes me as uncool. > > If Archibald is one of the most important people around, even if he's not > > addressed that way, nobody woud NOT know that, unless there were great > > efforts to keep it a secret. > > I'm not averse in principle to saying that the CoG exists in a nutty > > wackyland where ordinary people behave like imbeciles and don't realize > > things like "that guy everybody is talking to is Archibald" > > But....I think that belittles the cast characters and Midwesterners we're > > writing. > > I think on the disguise thing coming up with some sort of consistent > > statement on how it exists, how it works and how it is and isn't > implemented > > rises above the "just hand wave it" level and becomes something people > need > > to know to write cast for the game. I know I do. I don't feel like > writing > > a holler boss who is too stupid to realize that the physical description > of > > Archibald matches the important guy in the sombrero... > > I think this is worth getting some sort of uniform concept together on...
> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> LOL yes. Everyone email the main list so that everyone knows that Dr. > >> Archibald will be wearing a sombraro. Not important. It's flavor.
> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Eric Smith/SGM Bartholomew Masters > >> <eric.sm...@mohnkern.com> wrote:
> >> > Why not? You are actually the ideal person who tracks everything. To > >> > me, you ARE it.
> >> > On Sep 24, 3:53 pm, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> mmm, i think pretty much teh TS players have always been sayign there > >> >> are > >> >> disguises etc. if you believe other players do not know this, then > yes > >> >> someoen should tell teh threads list. not-it.
> >> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > Ahhh. Ok. That is important to tell those of us that haven't been > >> >> > on the > >> >> > original idea and plotline.... as in, you need to let the Threads > >> >> > list know > >> >> > this. How in the world would we know about bgas we didn't file.
> >> >> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:49, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> > >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL > >> >> >> technomages were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter > and > >> >> >> Archibald. so while JET members know that Technomages are > involved > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> theory was that none of the workers in the city did... folks > spent > >> >> >> BGAs to > >> >> >> cover it up and stuff
> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner > >> >> >> <arachn...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >> >>> Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the > >> >> >>> City, I > >> >> >>> don't think the disguises are going to work.
> >> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> > >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. > >> >> >>>> LOL. > >> >> >>>> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry > >> >> >>>> them.
> >> >> >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley > >> >> >>>> <arbrad...@gmail.com> > >> >> >>>> wrote: > >> >> >>>> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC > >> >> >>>> > chats, > >> >> >>>> esp > >> >> >>>> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see > artists > >> >> >>>> > comign > >> >> >>>> to be > >> >> >>>> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. > >> >> >>>> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic > >> >> >>>> scientists. > >> >> >>>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt > >> >> >>>> > <cgr...@gmail.com> > >> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need > >> >> >>>> >> help > >> >> >>>> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what > >> >> >>>> >> technosphere culture is like.
> >> >> >>>> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which > >> >> >>>> >> makes > >> >> >>>> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has > a > >> >> >>>> >> small > >> >> >>>> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able > >> >> >>>> >> to > >> >> >>>> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their > >> >> >>>> >> needs. > >> >> >>>> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to > >> >> >>>> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire > >> >> >>>> >> lives in a > >> >> >>>> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, > and > >> >> >>>> >> the > >> >> >>>> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I > >> >> >>>> >> think, in a > >> >> >>>> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still > >> >> >>>> >> maintain the > >> >> >>>> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
> >> >> >>>> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work > >> >> >>>> >> for Dr. > >> >> >>>> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech > >> >> >>>> >> technicians. > >> >> >>>> In > >> >> >>>> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the > >> >> >>>> >> above > >> >> >>>> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even > >> >> >>>> >> one of > >> >> >>>> >> each of those.
> >> >> >>>> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing > characters > >> >> >>>> >> for a > >> >> >>>> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would > >> >> >>>> >> steel > >> >> >>>> it > >> >> >>>> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
> >> >> >>>> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact > >> >> >>>> >> plot for > >> >> >>>> them > >> >> >>>> >> yet.
> >> >> >>>> > -- > >> >> >>>> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious > >> >> >>>> convictions of > >> >> >>>> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > >> >> >>>> > -Dahlia Lithwick
> >> >> >>>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be > >> >> >>>> > avoided. > >> >> >>>> > -Napoleon
> >> >> >>>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees > and > >> >> >>>> > stones > >> >> >>>> will > >> >> >>>> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. > >> >> >>>> > Bernard
> >> >> >>>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind > >> >> >>>> > don't > >> >> >>>> matter > >> >> >>>> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> >> >> >>> -- > >> >> >>> Lisa A. Lassner > >> >> >>> arachn...@gmail.com
> >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious > >> >> >> convictions > >> >> >> of other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > >> >> >> -Dahlia Lithwick
> >> >> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be > avoided. > >> >> >> -Napoleon
> >> >> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and > >> >> >> stones > >> >> >> will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. > >> >> >> Bernard
> >> >> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind > don't > >> >> >> matter > >> >> >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> >> >> > -- > >> >> > Lisa A. Lassner > >> >> > arachn...@gmail.com
> >> >> -- > >> >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious > convictions > >> >> of > >> >> other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > >> >> -Dahlia Lithwick
> >> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. > >> >> -Napoleon
> >> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and > stones > >> >> will > >> >> teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
> >> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't > >> >> matter > >> >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss- Hide quoted text -
I think, as Carolyn says, its not that all cast are morons. Its that the anti-Technomage cultists are morons.
Sad to say, but this seems pretty consistent with the way Kammer and others have written them. I was in the scene where they burnt a hub at the PPOC game, and I didn't get the impression they were real smart. I mean, they didn't seem to know who among the CCs were Technmages, even with Gray leading them.
I think this is a compromise that allows the TS players to have their fun but not make, say, the Holla bosses be morons. Only the cultists are fooled by the disguises.
That said, I'm not sure how much, say, Archibald's description has been circulated in the PPOC. Of course, this means the disguise isn't strictly needed, but people do pretty silly things to avoid over-hyped dangers, which I think the cultists kinda are at this point.
On 9/24/09, Gordon Olmstead-Dean <jgod...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Okay. Let me put one more thing forward here. > There is also the part where this becomes "the NPCs are all idiots" and that > strikes me as uncool.
> If Archibald is one of the most important people around, even if he's not > addressed that way, nobody woud NOT know that, unless there were great > efforts to keep it a secret.
> I'm not averse in principle to saying that the CoG exists in a nutty > wackyland where ordinary people behave like imbeciles and don't realize > things like "that guy everybody is talking to is Archibald"
> But....I think that belittles the cast characters and Midwesterners we're > writing.
> I think on the disguise thing coming up with some sort of consistent > statement on how it exists, how it works and how it is and isn't implemented > rises above the "just hand wave it" level and becomes something people need > to know to write cast for the game. I know I do. I don't feel like writing > a holler boss who is too stupid to realize that the physical description of > Archibald matches the important guy in the sombrero...
> I think this is worth getting some sort of uniform concept together on...
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> LOL yes. Everyone email the main list so that everyone knows that Dr. >> Archibald will be wearing a sombraro. Not important. It's flavor.
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Eric Smith/SGM Bartholomew Masters >> <eric.sm...@mohnkern.com> wrote:
>> > Why not? You are actually the ideal person who tracks everything. To >> > me, you ARE it.
>> > On Sep 24, 3:53 pm, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> mmm, i think pretty much teh TS players have always been sayign there >> are >> >> disguises etc. if you believe other players do not know this, then yes >> >> someoen should tell teh threads list. not-it.
>> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Ahhh. Ok. That is important to tell those of us that haven't been >> >> > on >> the >> >> > original idea and plotline.... as in, you need to let the Threads >> >> > list >> know >> >> > this. How in the world would we know about bgas we didn't file.
>> >> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:49, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> >> wrote:
>> >> >> the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL >> >> >> technomages were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter and >> >> >> Archibald. so while JET members know that Technomages are involved >> the >> >> >> theory was that none of the workers in the city did... folks spent >> BGAs to >> >> >> cover it up and stuff
>> >> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com >> >wrote:
>> >> >>> Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the >> City, I >> >> >>> don't think the disguises are going to work.
>> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. >> LOL. >> >> >>>> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry >> >> >>>> them.
>> >> >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com
>> >> >>>> wrote: >> >> >>>> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC >> chats, >> >> >>>> esp >> >> >>>> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see artists >> comign >> >> >>>> to be >> >> >>>> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. >> >> >>>> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic >> >> >>>> scientists. >> >> >>>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com
>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need >> >> >>>> >> help >> >> >>>> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what >> >> >>>> >> technosphere culture is like.
>> >> >>>> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which >> >> >>>> >> makes >> >> >>>> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has a >> small >> >> >>>> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able >> >> >>>> >> to >> >> >>>> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their >> >> >>>> >> needs. >> >> >>>> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to >> >> >>>> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire >> >> >>>> >> lives >> in a >> >> >>>> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, and >> the >> >> >>>> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I >> >> >>>> >> think, >> in a >> >> >>>> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still >> maintain the >> >> >>>> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
>> >> >>>> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work >> >> >>>> >> for >> Dr. >> >> >>>> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech >> technicians. >> >> >>>> In >> >> >>>> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the >> above >> >> >>>> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even >> >> >>>> >> one >> of >> >> >>>> >> each of those.
>> >> >>>> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing characters >> for a >> >> >>>> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would >> steel >> >> >>>> it >> >> >>>> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
>> >> >>>> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact >> plot for >> >> >>>> them >> >> >>>> >> yet.
>> >> >>>> > -- >> >> >>>> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >> >> >>>> convictions of >> >> >>>> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> >> >>>> > -Dahlia Lithwick
>> >> >>>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be >> avoided. >> >> >>>> > -Napoleon
>> >> >>>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and >> stones >> >> >>>> will >> >> >>>> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. >> Bernard
>> >> >>>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind >> don't >> >> >>>> matter >> >> >>>> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> Lisa A. Lassner >> >> >>> arachn...@gmail.com
>> >> >> -- >> >> >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >> convictions >> >> >> of other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> >> >> -Dahlia Lithwick
>> >> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >> >> >> -Napoleon
>> >> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and >> stones >> >> >> will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. >> Bernard
>> >> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >> matter >> >> >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>> >> > -- >> >> > Lisa A. Lassner >> >> > arachn...@gmail.com
>> >> -- >> >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions >> of >> >> other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> >> -Dahlia Lithwick
>> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >> >> -Napoleon
>> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and stones >> will >> >> teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. Bernard
>> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >> matter >> >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss- Hide quoted text -
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Maybe I'm missing something, so I'm just going to write this out...
As far as I see, there are cultists who are trying to kill technomages. They aren't heavily involved in the creation of the CoG (since the TS is heavily involved in the creation adn I can only imagine that the security force would be trying to keep cultists out of an area created by that which they hate, yes?).
So, the technomages are moving about the CoG and are trying to not be OBVIOUSLY technomages, so they are wearing disguises that are simply "not technomage".
I assume that security (not being idiots) know who the PEOPLE who are coming into the CoG are including the technomages. This is simply trying to keep them from looking like TechnoMages(tm). (Taking it one step further- security could have a CoG person dressed as a "Technomage" trying to draw out threats).
What does this mean for game- the technomages are accustomed to moving about the CoG in these disguises for the sake of not asking for trouble. The trusted NPCs, the folks who have the security clearance to be hanging out with the JET and who use their noggins will be able to realise who these people must be (if they go around asking for names security might be concerned <g>). As for PCs being able to recognise them...JET members wear namebadges, in order to have full access, yes? It shouldn't be an issue <g>. I think it will be funny.
I may have missed something- please let me know if I'm totally off base. -D
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe the cultists are more powerful than I thought.
> I was IN a scene. That the cultists were morons. Seriously. I was > standing right there. "Technomages are evil, kill her." And grayer > stopped them. They were like "OK" That's my only encounter.
> So yes, I'm assuming we wear it just so we can walk around the city > and not be a famous target, but people who are supposed to be there > would know who we are.
> But if that's not the case, fine. I'm amused.
> I gtg so I wont respond for a while.
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Gordon Olmstead-Dean <jgod...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Okay. Let me put one more thing forward here. > > There is also the part where this becomes "the NPCs are all idiots" and > that > > strikes me as uncool. > > If Archibald is one of the most important people around, even if he's not > > addressed that way, nobody woud NOT know that, unless there were great > > efforts to keep it a secret. > > I'm not averse in principle to saying that the CoG exists in a nutty > > wackyland where ordinary people behave like imbeciles and don't realize > > things like "that guy everybody is talking to is Archibald" > > But....I think that belittles the cast characters and Midwesterners we're > > writing. > > I think on the disguise thing coming up with some sort of consistent > > statement on how it exists, how it works and how it is and isn't > implemented > > rises above the "just hand wave it" level and becomes something people > need > > to know to write cast for the game. I know I do. I don't feel like > writing > > a holler boss who is too stupid to realize that the physical description > of > > Archibald matches the important guy in the sombrero... > > I think this is worth getting some sort of uniform concept together on...
> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> LOL yes. Everyone email the main list so that everyone knows that Dr. > >> Archibald will be wearing a sombraro. Not important. It's flavor.
> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Eric Smith/SGM Bartholomew Masters > >> <eric.sm...@mohnkern.com> wrote:
> >> > Why not? You are actually the ideal person who tracks everything. To > >> > me, you ARE it.
> >> > On Sep 24, 3:53 pm, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> mmm, i think pretty much teh TS players have always been sayign there > >> >> are > >> >> disguises etc. if you believe other players do not know this, then > yes > >> >> someoen should tell teh threads list. not-it.
> >> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > Ahhh. Ok. That is important to tell those of us that haven't been > >> >> > on the > >> >> > original idea and plotline.... as in, you need to let the Threads > >> >> > list know > >> >> > this. How in the world would we know about bgas we didn't file.
> >> >> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:49, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> > >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL > >> >> >> technomages were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter > and > >> >> >> Archibald. so while JET members know that Technomages are > involved > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> theory was that none of the workers in the city did... folks > spent > >> >> >> BGAs to > >> >> >> cover it up and stuff
> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner > >> >> >> <arachn...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >> >>> Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on the > >> >> >>> City, I > >> >> >>> don't think the disguises are going to work.
> >> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> > >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in disguises. > >> >> >>>> LOL. > >> >> >>>> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry > >> >> >>>> them.
> >> >> >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley > >> >> >>>> <arbrad...@gmail.com> > >> >> >>>> wrote: > >> >> >>>> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many IC > >> >> >>>> > chats, > >> >> >>>> esp > >> >> >>>> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see > artists > >> >> >>>> > comign > >> >> >>>> to be > >> >> >>>> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. > >> >> >>>> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but generic > >> >> >>>> scientists. > >> >> >>>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt > >> >> >>>> > <cgr...@gmail.com> > >> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need > >> >> >>>> >> help > >> >> >>>> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about what > >> >> >>>> >> technosphere culture is like.
> >> >> >>>> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which > >> >> >>>> >> makes > >> >> >>>> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere has > a > >> >> >>>> >> small > >> >> >>>> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are able > >> >> >>>> >> to > >> >> >>>> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their > >> >> >>>> >> needs. > >> >> >>>> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go to > >> >> >>>> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire > >> >> >>>> >> lives in a > >> >> >>>> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, > and > >> >> >>>> >> the > >> >> >>>> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I > >> >> >>>> >> think, in a > >> >> >>>> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still > >> >> >>>> >> maintain the > >> >> >>>> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
> >> >> >>>> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who work > >> >> >>>> >> for Dr. > >> >> >>>> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech > >> >> >>>> >> technicians. > >> >> >>>> In > >> >> >>>> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of the > >> >> >>>> >> above > >> >> >>>> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or even > >> >> >>>> >> one of > >> >> >>>> >> each of those.
> >> >> >>>> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing > characters > >> >> >>>> >> for a > >> >> >>>> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I would > >> >> >>>> >> steel > >> >> >>>> it > >> >> >>>> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
> >> >> >>>> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or exact > >> >> >>>> >> plot for > >> >> >>>> them > >> >> >>>> >> yet.
> >> >> >>>> > -- > >> >> >>>> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious > >> >> >>>> convictions of > >> >> >>>> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > >> >> >>>> > -Dahlia Lithwick
> >> >> >>>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be > >> >> >>>> > avoided. > >> >> >>>> > -Napoleon
> >> >> >>>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees > and > >> >> >>>> > stones > >> >> >>>> will > >> >> >>>> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. > >> >> >>>> > Bernard
> >> >> >>>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind > >> >> >>>> > don't > >> >> >>>> matter > >> >> >>>> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> >> >> >>> -- > >> >> >>> Lisa A. Lassner > >> >> >>> arachn...@gmail.com
> >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious > >> >> >> convictions > >> >> >> of other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. > >> >> >> -Dahlia Lithwick
> >> >> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be > avoided. > >> >> >> -Napoleon
> >> >> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and > >> >> >> stones > >> >> >> will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. > >> >> >> Bernard
> >> >> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind > don't > >> >> >> matter > >> >> >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
> >> >> > -- > >> >> > Lisa A. Lassner > >> >> > arachn...@gmail.com
> >> >> -- > >> >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious > convictions
Well, people like Sykes (and therefore ENY) knew it because Archibald told him. There was talk earlier about locals who hate nanites, etc. They were mostly seen as angry drunks. I noticed because someone said they liked Sykes.
Sykes has always opposed both the supernatural AND nanites. His general level of success is VERY mixed.
> Also - I was not aware that people knew that the technosphere was > still involved in engineering the project. I imagine the city of > glass being so huge, that no would would really notice or care who > engineered the hypertech, and oversaw the project that got them put in > correctly.
> I guess, that's why we have to talk, so we all have the same vision.
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: >> doall the holler bosses have physical descriptions of all technomages? >> cause if not, all they know is that there is an important engineer form >> out-thread and he is important(tm). they are not disguized as janitors >> or >> anything. jsut nto technomages...
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Gordon Olmstead-Dean >> <jgod...@gmail.com> >> wrote:
>>> Okay. Let me put one more thing forward here. >>> There is also the part where this becomes "the NPCs are all idiots" and >>> that strikes me as uncool. >>> If Archibald is one of the most important people around, even if he's >>> not >>> addressed that way, nobody woud NOT know that, unless there were great >>> efforts to keep it a secret. >>> I'm not averse in principle to saying that the CoG exists in a nutty >>> wackyland where ordinary people behave like imbeciles and don't realize >>> things like "that guy everybody is talking to is Archibald" >>> But....I think that belittles the cast characters and Midwesterners >>> we're >>> writing. >>> I think on the disguise thing coming up with some sort of consistent >>> statement on how it exists, how it works and how it is and isn't >>> implemented >>> rises above the "just hand wave it" level and becomes something people >>> need >>> to know to write cast for the game. I know I do. I don't feel like >>> writing >>> a holler boss who is too stupid to realize that the physical >>> description of >>> Archibald matches the important guy in the sombrero... >>> I think this is worth getting some sort of uniform concept together >>> on...
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> >>> wrote:
>>>> LOL yes. Everyone email the main list so that everyone knows that Dr. >>>> Archibald will be wearing a sombraro. Not important. It's flavor.
>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Eric Smith/SGM Bartholomew Masters >>>> <eric.sm...@mohnkern.com> wrote:
>>>> > Why not? You are actually the ideal person who tracks everything. >>>> To >>>> > me, you ARE it.
>>>> > On Sep 24, 3:53 pm, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> mmm, i think pretty much teh TS players have always been sayign >>>> there >>>> >> are >>>> >> disguises etc. if you believe other players do not know this, then >>>> >> yes >>>> >> someoen should tell teh threads list. not-it.
>>>> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Lisa Lassner <arachn...@gmail.com> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> > Ahhh. Ok. That is important to tell those of us that haven't >>>> been >>>> >> > on the >>>> >> > original idea and plotline.... as in, you need to let the Threads >>>> >> > list know >>>> >> > this. How in the world would we know about bgas we didn't file.
>>>> >> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:49, Anna Bradley <arbrad...@gmail.com> >>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >> >> the original idea and plotline, as i understood it, was that ALL >>>> >> >> technomages were not obvously so while at the City. Even Winter >>>> >> >> and >>>> >> >> Archibald. so while JET members know that Technomages are >>>> involved >>>> >> >> the >>>> >> >> theory was that none of the workers in the city did... folks >>>> spent >>>> >> >> BGAs to >>>> >> >> cover it up and stuff
>>>> >> >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Lisa Lassner >>>> >> >> <arachn...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> >> >>> Considering the fact that people work with the technomages on >>>> the >>>> >> >>> City, I >>>> >> >>> don't think the disguises are going to work.
>>>> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 15:43, Carolyn Grodt <cgr...@gmail.com> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>>> Also - all technomages are coming to city of glass in >>>> disguises. >>>> >> >>>> LOL. >>>> >> >>>> We don't want the cultists to bother us. We'd rather not fry >>>> >> >>>> them.
>>>> >> >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Anna Bradley >>>> >> >>>> <arbrad...@gmail.com> >>>> >> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> > that jives well with what Adrienne had conveyed in our many >>>> IC >>>> >> >>>> > chats, >>>> >> >>>> esp >>>> >> >>>> > the farmers/hippies/artists stuff... i can totally see >>>> artists >>>> >> >>>> > comign >>>> >> >>>> to be >>>> >> >>>> > inspired by the city, hanging out etc. >>>> >> >>>> > certainly techs, assistants etc. non-technomages but >>>> generic >>>> >> >>>> scientists. >>>> >> >>>> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Carolyn Grodt >>>> >> >>>> > <cgr...@gmail.com> >>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>>> >> I have a few ideas for normal technosphere people, but need >>>> >> >>>> >> help >>>> >> >>>> >> fleshing them out. Actually I have a lot of ideas about >>>> what >>>> >> >>>> >> technosphere culture is like.
>>>> >> >>>> >> Most people in the technosphere are not technomages, which >>>> >> >>>> >> makes >>>> >> >>>> >> Technomages A-list celebreties in the Sphere. The sphere >>>> has >>>> >> >>>> >> a small >>>> >> >>>> >> population for the land, and most of its inhabitants are >>>> able >>>> >> >>>> >> to >>>> >> >>>> >> pursue their own interests because technology meets their >>>> >> >>>> >> needs. >>>> >> >>>> >> There is a hippie population, liberal arts students who go >>>> to >>>> >> >>>> >> berkeley, farmers, maybe some people who live their entire >>>> >> >>>> >> lives in a >>>> >> >>>> >> cyberpunk jack-in, there is a San Fransisco gay community, >>>> and >>>> >> >>>> >> the >>>> >> >>>> >> conventions geeks. You'd likely find a lot of artists, I >>>> >> >>>> >> think, in a >>>> >> >>>> >> Star Trek style Utopia like the Sphere. (Though I still >>>> >> >>>> >> maintain the >>>> >> >>>> >> good music and fashion would be borrowed from LA.)
>>>> >> >>>> >> So you might find a few people in the city of glass who >>>> work >>>> >> >>>> >> for Dr. >>>> >> >>>> >> Winter or Devin Archibald. Maybe they are Hypertech >>>> >> >>>> >> technicians. >>>> >> >>>> In >>>> >> >>>> >> addition to that, they could be gay or hippies or any of >>>> the >>>> >> >>>> >> above >>>> >> >>>> >> mentioned ideas. They could be larper/sci-fi geeks, or >>>> even >>>> >> >>>> >> one of >>>> >> >>>> >> each of those.
>>>> >> >>>> >> I don't know where to start when it comes to writing >>>> >> >>>> >> characters for a >>>> >> >>>> >> larp that interact, but if I was going to steel plot, I >>>> would >>>> >> >>>> >> steel >>>> >> >>>> it >>>> >> >>>> >> from Babylon 5 interpersonal drama.
>>>> >> >>>> >> Anybody want to add on to that? I don't have names or >>>> exact >>>> >> >>>> >> plot for >>>> >> >>>> them >>>> >> >>>> >> yet.
>>>> >> >>>> > -- >>>> >> >>>> > ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >>>> >> >>>> convictions of >>>> >> >>>> > other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >>>> >> >>>> > -Dahlia Lithwick
>>>> >> >>>> > The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be >>>> >> >>>> > avoided. >>>> >> >>>> > -Napoleon
>>>> >> >>>> > You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees >>>> and >>>> >> >>>> > stones >>>> >> >>>> will >>>> >> >>>> > teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. >>>> >> >>>> > Bernard
>>>> >> >>>> > Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who >>>> mind >>>> >> >>>> > don't >>>> >> >>>> matter >>>> >> >>>> > and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>>>> >> >>> -- >>>> >> >>> Lisa A. Lassner >>>> >> >>> arachn...@gmail.com
>>>> >> >> -- >>>> >> >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >>>> >> >> convictions >>>> >> >> of other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >>>> >> >> -Dahlia Lithwick
>>>> >> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be >>>> avoided. >>>> >> >> -Napoleon
>>>> >> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and >>>> >> >> stones >>>> >> >> will teach you that which you can never learn from masters. >>>> ~St. >>>> >> >> Bernard
>>>> >> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind >>>> don't >>>> >> >> matter >>>> >> >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss
>>>> >> > -- >>>> >> > Lisa A. Lassner >>>> >> > arachn...@gmail.com
>>>> >> -- >>>> >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious >>>> >> convictions of >>>> >> other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >>>> >> -Dahlia Lithwick
>>>> >> The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. >>>> >> -Napoleon
>>>> >> You will find something more in woods than in books. Trees and >>>> stones >>>> >> will >>>> >> teach you that which you can never learn from masters. ~St. >>>> Bernard
>>>> >> Be who you are and say what you feel...because those who mind don't >>>> >> matter >>>> >> and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss- Hide quoted text -
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>> -- >> ...the First Aphorism of Religion Cases: Only the religious convictions >> of >> other people are weird. Yours are perfectly rational. >> -Dahlia Lithwick
