planting query
jfl...@locl.net
novice (understatement, actually). This spring I want to begin planting
an orchard we will someday give our son and his children. We all love
cider, and want to plant some varieties that will make home production
possible. I've been a long-time member of Seed Savers, and am
considering the following varieties for purchase from a fellow member.
Due to a damaged shoulder and limited watering capabilities, I'm only
planting six trees this spring. Any feedback to help me decide which
trees to purchase (custom-grafted) would help. The trees will be planted
on a southern 35 degree hillside that is sandy soil. I live in Zone 5A.
Ashmead Kernel
Cnnon Perrmain
Cox's Orange Pippin
Fameuse
Golden Russet
Haralson
Honey Cider
Hubert's Snow
Lady
Pumpkin Cider
St. Edmund's Pippin
Also, since I'm ordering these custom-grafted, any rootstock suggestions
would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance for any feedback you can
give. All the best, John
Ludy
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CarlLeClair
I would suggest a couple of excellent books for your journey.
First is " Growing Cider Apples " by Roger Umpelby & Liz Copas
and The second " A Somerset Pomona " by Liz Copas. You can find
copies at Vigo Ltd.
http://www.vigoltd.com/books.php
These will be your best reference to the future of growing and
maintaining your
orchard. Hope this helps.
Regards,
Carl
jfl...@locl.net
am really at the beginning stages. I just want our grandkids to have the
orchard and enjoy their own cider/perry. All the best, Joh
> Hi John,
>
> I would suggest a couple of excellent books for your journey.
> First is " Growing Cider Apples " by Roger Umpelby & Liz Copas
> and The second " A Somerset Pomona " by Liz Copas. You can find
> copies at Vigo Ltd.
>
> http://www.vigoltd.com/books.php
>
> These will be your best reference to the future of growing and
> maintaining your
> orchard. Hope this helps.
>
> Regards,
>
> Carl
>
> > Hi, 嚙瘢've been following the posts with interest, although I am prety
> > novice (understatement, actually). 嚙確his spring I want to begin
planting
> > an orchard we will someday give our son and his children. 嚙磕e all love
> > cider, and want to plant some varieties that will make home production
> > considering the following varieties for purchase from a fellow member.
> > Due to a damaged shoulder and limited watering capabilities, I'm only
> > trees to purchase (custom-grafted) would help. 嚙確he trees will be
planted
> > on a southern 35 degree hillside that is sandy soil. 嚙瘢 live in Zone
> > Ashmead Kernel
> > Cnnon Perrmain
> > Cox's Orange Pippin
> > Fameuse
> > Golden Russet
> > Haralson
> > Honey Cider
> > Hubert's Snow
> > Lady
> > Pumpkin Cider
> > St. Edmund's Pippin
> > Also, since I'm ordering these custom-grafted, any rootstock
suggestions
> > give. 嚙璀ll the best, John
> > Ludy
> >
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Wes Cherry
I also recommend "The Apple Grower: A guide for the Organic Orchardist" by Michael Philips
Even if you aren't doing organic production, there's a lot of very useful information in this book.
Since you have sandy soil, I'd go for a rootstock that will go deep and far to find water and are drought tolerant. MM111 if you can wait the 5-7 years it will take to get to production is a good choice. If your grafter can do it, a MM111+M9 (or B9 or G11) interstem might be ideal -- the interstem gives you faster production, smaller trees yet with all the ground based advantages of MM111. Assuming you have a dry summer, without irrigation on sandy soils I would stay away from any of the dwarfing rootstocks (G11/M26/M9/B9 etc).
-'//es Cherry
w...@dragonsheadcider.com
Vashon WA, USA
CarlLeClair
I forgot to mention the Utube option.
I find the Stephen Hayes series of orcharding on utube a
wonderful resource and most enjoyable as well as instructive.
" stephen hayes apples " is the search when in the Utube website.
Regards,
Carl
On Feb 9, 4:11 pm, jfl...@locl.net wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback, Carl. I hesitate to post very often because I
> am really at the beginning stages. I just want our grandkids to have the
> orchard and enjoy their own cider/perry. All the best, Joh
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi John,
>
> > I would suggest a couple of excellent books for your journey.
> > First is " Growing Cider Apples " by Roger Umpelby & Liz Copas
> > and The second " A Somerset Pomona " by Liz Copas. You can find
> > copies at Vigo Ltd.
>
> >http://www.vigoltd.com/books.php
>
> > These will be your best reference to the future of growing and
> > maintaining your
> > orchard. Hope this helps.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Carl
>
> > > novice (understatement, actually). This spring I want to begin
> planting
> > > an orchard we will someday give our son and his children. We all love
> > > Due to a damaged shoulder and limited watering capabilities, I'm only
> > > trees to purchase (custom-grafted) would help. The trees will be
> planted
> > > on a southern 35 degree hillside that is sandy soil. I live in Zone
> > > Ashmead Kernel
> > > Cnnon Perrmain
> > > Cox's Orange Pippin
> > > Fameuse
> > > Golden Russet
> > > Haralson
> > > Honey Cider
> > > Hubert's Snow
> > > Lady
> > > Pumpkin Cider
> > > St. Edmund's Pippin
> > > Also, since I'm ordering these custom-grafted, any rootstock
> suggestions
> > > give. All the best, John
jfl...@locl.net
really appreciate your feedback on the rootstock. That issue has been
preplexing me, and your feedback really helped. All the best, John
PS. Carl, thanks for the additonal info about utubes. I'll look that
up. It's really nice having knowledgable people a mouse click away.
>
> I also recommend "The Apple Grower: A guide for the Organic Orchardist"
by Michael Philips
>
> Even if you aren't doing organic production, there's a lot of very
useful information in
this book.
>
> Since you have sandy soil, I'd go for a rootstock that will go deep and
far to find water
and are drought tolerant. MM111 if you can wait the 5-7 years it will
take to get to
production is a good choice. If your grafter can do it, a MM111+M9 (or
B9 or G11)
interstem might be ideal -- the interstem gives you faster production,
smaller trees yet
with all the ground based advantages of MM111. Assuming you have a dry
summer, without
irrigation on sandy soils I would stay away from any of the dwarfing
rootstocks
(G11/M26/M9/B9 etc).
>
> -'//es Cherry
> w...@dragonsheadcider.com
> Vashon WA, USA
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 12:59 PM, CarlLeClair wrote:
>
Stephen Hayes
I forgot to mention the Utube option.
I find the Stephen Hayes series of orcharding on utube a
wonderful resource and most enjoyable as well as instructive.
" stephen hayes apples " is the search when in the Utube website.
Regards,
Carl
Kind of you to mention my YouTube channel Carl. Phillips and Copas books as
mentioned excellent, and you still can't beat the good old 'Fruit Garden
Displayed' if you can obtain a copy of this out of print masterpiece.
Stephen Hayes
CarlLeClair
> Kind of you to mention my YouTube channel Carl. Phillips and Copas books as
> mentioned excellent, and you still can't beat the good old 'Fruit Garden
> Displayed' if you can obtain a copy of this out of print masterpiece.
>
> Stephen Hayes
The illustrations alone are worth the price of admission.
FYI..many of these are available on Abe's Books and very reasonable
too.
Look forward to reading it.
Regards,
Carl