I did a quick check of the term & conditions and have a question
regarding:-
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11. Content license from you
11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in
Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.
By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a
perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive
license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly
perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit,
post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the
sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the
Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the
Additional Terms of those Services.
Q: If i display a document on my PC using the Google Browser can
Google use the contents of the document for its own purposes? The
language above clearly details that it does..... CAUTION IS ADVISED
This is unacceptable! This has already been featured on many sites and
I think this issue is about to explode and Google will need to issue
an official statement on this.
I personally will never touch Chrome if they won't change/remove that
clause in EULA.
On Sep 3, 7:53 am, market...@activeonline.ie wrote:
> I did a quick check of the term & conditions and have a question
> regarding:-
> --------------------------------------------
> snip--------------------------------------
> 11. Content license from you
> 11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in
> Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.
> By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a
> perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive
> license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly
> perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit,
> post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the
> sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the
> Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the
> Additional Terms of those Services.
> Q: If i display a document on my PC using the Google Browser can
> Google use the contents of the document for its own purposes? The
> language above clearly details that it does..... CAUTION IS ADVISED
> This is unacceptable! This has already been featured on many sites and
> I think this issue is about to explode and Google will need to issue
> an official statement on this.
> I personally will never touch Chrome if they won't change/remove that
> clause in EULA.
> On Sep 3, 7:53 am, market...@activeonline.ie wrote:
> > I did a quick check of the term & conditions and have a question
> > regarding:-
> > --------------------------------------------
> > snip--------------------------------------
> > 11. Content license from you
> > 11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in
> > Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.
> > By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a
> > perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive
> > license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly
> > perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit,
> > post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the
> > sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the
> > Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the
> > Additional Terms of those Services.
> > Q: If i display a document on my PC using the Google Browser can
> > Google use the contents of the document for its own purposes? The
> > language above clearly details that it does..... CAUTION IS ADVISED
[This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display,
distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain
Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.]
So they need my permission to display/distribute/promote "the
Services." What are the services anyway?
Let's go back to the ToS:
[1.1 Your use of Google’s products, software, services and web sites
(referred to collectively as the “Services” in this document and
excluding any services provided to you by Google under a separate
written agreement) is subject to the terms of a legal agreement
between you and Google. ...]
So that means that they just need my permission so that they can use
it on their services such as the translate feature, Google Images,
Google Search, etc. Also that they CANNOT exploit me since it does not
fall under their so called "sole purpose." If they use it to
"reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform,
publicly display and distribute any Content which I [you] submit, post
or display on or through, the Services" other than that, they're the
ones violating the ToS.
I think the agreement is basically so that they can translate public
content through their translate service, use it with Google Search/
Images, modify the layout based on browser dimensions, etc. I think
people are just overreacting.
> This is so sad.
> I've always liked google products but is Google trustworthy on it's
> products anymore after this one?
> On Sep 3, 3:23 pm, Artem <artem.danilia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This is unacceptable! This has already been featured on many sites and
> > I think this issue is about to explode and Google will need to issue
> > an official statement on this.
> > I personally will never touch Chrome if they won't change/remove that
> > clause in EULA.
> > On Sep 3, 7:53 am, market...@activeonline.ie wrote:
> > > I did a quick check of the term & conditions and have a question
> > > regarding:-
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > > snip--------------------------------------
> > > 11. Content license from you
> > > 11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in
> > > Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.
> > > By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a
> > > perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive
> > > license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly
> > > perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit,
> > > post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the
> > > sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the
> > > Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the
> > > Additional Terms of those Services.
> > > Q: If i display a document on my PC using the Google Browser can
> > > Google use the contents of the document for its own purposes? The
> > > language above clearly details that it does..... CAUTION IS ADVISED
Everything is still going _through_ the Services (Chrome) and the
Services still being quite undefined (Google’s products, software,
services and web sites) in the ToS still rings the bells imo.
- 11.1 "you submit, post or display on or _through_, the Services."
On 3 syys, 18:08, Loki <goofydelinqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display,
> distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain
> Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.]
> So they need my permission to display/distribute/promote "the
> Services." What are the services anyway?
> Let's go back to the ToS:
> [1.1 Your use of Google’s products, software, services and web sites
> (referred to collectively as the “Services” in this document and
> excluding any services provided to you by Google under a separate
> written agreement) is subject to the terms of a legal agreement
> between you and Google. ...]
> So that means that they just need my permission so that they can use
> it on their services such as the translate feature, Google Images,
> Google Search, etc. Also that they CANNOT exploit me since it does not
> fall under their so called "sole purpose." If they use it to
> "reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform,
> publicly display and distribute any Content which I [you] submit, post
> or display on or through, the Services" other than that, they're the
> ones violating the ToS.
> I think the agreement is basically so that they can translate public
> content through their translate service, use it with Google Search/
> Images, modify the layout based on browser dimensions, etc. I think
> people are just overreacting.
> > This is so sad.
> > I've always liked google products but is Google trustworthy on it's
> > products anymore after this one?
> > On Sep 3, 3:23 pm, Artem <artem.danilia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > This is unacceptable! This has already been featured on many sites and
> > > I think this issue is about to explode and Google will need to issue
> > > an official statement on this.
> > > I personally will never touch Chrome if they won't change/remove that
> > > clause in EULA.
> > > On Sep 3, 7:53 am, market...@activeonline.ie wrote:
> > > > I did a quick check of the term & conditions and have a question
> > > > regarding:-
> > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > snip--------------------------------------
> > > > 11. Content license from you
> > > > 11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in
> > > > Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.
> > > > By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a
> > > > perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive
> > > > license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly
> > > > perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit,
> > > > post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the
> > > > sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the
> > > > Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the
> > > > Additional Terms of those Services.
> > > > Q: If i display a document on my PC using the Google Browser can
> > > > Google use the contents of the document for its own purposes? The
> > > > language above clearly details that it does..... CAUTION IS ADVISED
Google uses a universal terms of agreements, that little line is going
to be removed soon. Feel safe knowing that the stuff you upload is
not going to be stolen by Google.
Rebecca Ward, Senior Product Counsel for Google Chrome, writes:
"In order to keep things simple for our users, we try to use the same
set of
legal terms (our Universal Terms of
Service<http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS>)
for many of our products. Sometimes, as in the case of Google Chrome,
this
means that the legal terms for a specific product may include terms
that
don't apply well to the use of that product. We are working quickly
to
remove language from Section 11 of the current Google Chrome terms of
service <http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html>. This change will
apply
retroactively to all users who have downloaded Google Chrome."
> Everything is still going _through_ the Services (Chrome) and the
> Services still being quite undefined (Google’s products, software,
> services and web sites) in the ToS still rings the bells imo.
> - 11.1 "you submit, post or display on or _through_, the Services."
> On 3 syys, 18:08, Loki <goofydelinqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Here's my take:
> > [This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display,
> > distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain
> > Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.]
> > So they need my permission to display/distribute/promote "the
> > Services." What are the services anyway?
> > Let's go back to the ToS:
> > [1.1 Your use of Google’s products, software, services and web sites
> > (referred to collectively as the “Services” in this document and
> > excluding any services provided to you by Google under a separate
> > written agreement) is subject to the terms of a legal agreement
> > between you and Google. ...]
> > So that means that they just need my permission so that they can use
> > it on their services such as the translate feature, Google Images,
> > Google Search, etc. Also that they CANNOT exploit me since it does not
> > fall under their so called "sole purpose." If they use it to
> > "reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform,
> > publicly display and distribute any Content which I [you] submit, post
> > or display on or through, the Services" other than that, they're the
> > ones violating the ToS.
> > I think the agreement is basically so that they can translate public
> > content through their translate service, use it with Google Search/
> > Images, modify the layout based on browser dimensions, etc. I think
> > people are just overreacting.
> > > > This is unacceptable! This has already been featured on many sites and
> > > > I think this issue is about to explode and Google will need to issue
> > > > an official statement on this.
> > > > I personally will never touch Chrome if they won't change/remove that
> > > > clause in EULA.
> > > > > 11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in
> > > > > Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.
> > > > > By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a
> > > > > perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive
> > > > > license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly
> > > > > perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit,
> > > > > post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the
> > > > > sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the
> > > > > Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the
> > > > > Additional Terms of those Services.
> > > > > Q: If i display a document on my PC using the Google Browser can
> > > > > Google use the contents of the document for its own purposes? The
> > > > > language above clearly details that it does..... CAUTION IS ADVISED
You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in
Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.
The content is still YOURS
By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a
perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive
license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly
perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit,
post or display on or through, the Services.
They can display the item which is put onto the web.... and have it
searched via the translation tools, indexed by the googlebot, oh and
they can resize images/video etc for their searches.
This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display,
distribute and promote the
Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the
Additional Terms of those Services.
OHH look they even spelled it out... its just so they can SHOW
whatever you submit back to you, people you share with, or to the web
(depending on your settings) without this they cant have it on their
website at all... because they have a copy of it stashed in a server,
and without this clause that copy is illegal.
Everyone has one.
On Sep 3, 9:53 pm, market...@activeonline.ie wrote:
> I did a quick check of the term & conditions and have a question
> regarding:-
> --------------------------------------------
> snip--------------------------------------
> 11. Content license from you
> 11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in
> Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.
> By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a
> perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive
> license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly
> perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit,
> post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the
> sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the
> Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the
> Additional Terms of those Services.
> Q: If i display a document on my PC using the Google Browser can
> Google use the contents of the document for its own purposes? The
> language above clearly details that it does..... CAUTION IS ADVISED
I think most people who scan throught the terms and Eulas understand
the majority of the overall 'positive' objectives that Google are
trying to achieve. It does not exculse loose and contradicting legal
statments that can be interpreted in many ways. The logic (if I can
call it that) provides far too much bandwidth for abuse. (if they so
chose).... I'm happy that the offending clause is now removed, but it
should serve as a warning to all users of downloadable FREE Internet
software to read terms carefully , especially as the boundaries of
data privacy is ever being pushed back by Governments and big
business, before blindly jumping onto the bandwagon....
On Sep 3, 11:51 pm, Matt <lyem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in
> Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.
> The content is still YOURS
> By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a
> perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive
> license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly
> perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit,
> post or display on or through, the Services.
> They can display the item which is put onto the web.... and have it
> searched via the translation tools, indexed by the googlebot, oh and
> they can resize images/video etc for their searches.
> This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display,
> distribute and promote the
> Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the
> Additional Terms of those Services.
> OHH look they even spelled it out... its just so they can SHOW
> whatever you submit back to you, people you share with, or to the web
> (depending on your settings) without this they cant have it on their
> website at all... because they have a copy of it stashed in a server,
> and without this clause that copy is illegal.
> Everyone has one.
> On Sep 3, 9:53 pm, market...@activeonline.ie wrote:
> > I did a quick check of the term & conditions and have a question
> > regarding:-
> > --------------------------------------------
> > snip--------------------------------------
> > 11. Content license from you
> > 11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in
> > Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.
> > By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a
> > perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive
> > license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly
> > perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit,
> > post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the
> > sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the
> > Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the
> > Additional Terms of those Services.
> > Q: If i display a document on my PC using the Google Browser can
> > Google use the contents of the document for its own purposes? The
> > language above clearly details that it does..... CAUTION IS ADVISED- Hide quoted text -
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