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  <title type="text">chibolts Google Group</title>
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  This list provides information on usage of the CLAN program for analyzing data in the CHILDES database.
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  <updated>2008-09-28T02:20:31Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Brian MacWhinney</name>
  <email>m...@cmu.edu</email>
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  <updated>2008-09-28T02:20:31Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/cd201ed00948f7b6/9567a46056b772c9?show_docid=9567a46056b772c9</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: selecting and deleting/renaming tiers</title>
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  Dear Christine, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt; This type of detailed conditional selection of lines for &lt;br&gt; exclusion only works when there is a match, not when the criteria for &lt;br&gt; exclusion involve a non-match, as in your case. More generally, the &lt;br&gt; best approach to this type of work is to rely not on CLAN, but on &lt;br&gt; replacement using a regular expression matching program, such as
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  <author>
  <name>Christine Czinglar</name>
  <email>cirn...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-09-27T15:36:41Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/cd201ed00948f7b6/77f72314ef82cb2b?show_docid=77f72314ef82cb2b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/cd201ed00948f7b6/77f72314ef82cb2b?show_docid=77f72314ef82cb2b"/>
  <title type="text">selecting and deleting/renaming tiers</title>
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  Hello, &lt;br&gt; I would like to use the MOR program to help me code my files in a syntactic &lt;br&gt; way (constituents or phrases) to analyse verb placement in second language &lt;br&gt; acquisition of German. My coding scheme is too complex to be done &lt;br&gt; automatically, but some help from the machine would be great. There are some
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  <author>
  <name>Brian MacWhinney</name>
  <email>m...@cmu.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-09-08T23:15:19Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/b402aa5d5f581b93/9561e8eb7c0ed761?show_docid=9561e8eb7c0ed761</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/b402aa5d5f581b93/9561e8eb7c0ed761?show_docid=9561e8eb7c0ed761"/>
  <title type="text">spam</title>
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  Dear ChiBolts, &lt;br&gt; My apologies for the spam posting two messages ago. I have now &lt;br&gt; tightened up the membership rules for chibolts@googlegroups.com in &lt;br&gt; hopes of blocking such postings in the future. &lt;br&gt; --Brian MacWhinney
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  <author>
  <name>Cathy Lonngren</name>
  <email>cathy.lonng...@googlemail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-09-08T21:26:13Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/8d84059ee51b930a/1d24af3f982e0b8b?show_docid=1d24af3f982e0b8b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: kwal query</title>
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  Dear Leonid and Brian, &lt;br&gt; Thank you both for your answers. Leonid, following the command lines you &lt;br&gt; suggested I get the output I want (I just need to check in the manual to &lt;br&gt; understand how the +d3 switch works as that seems to be the key for the &lt;br&gt; first option). Brian, as my intention is to submit my corpus (presently
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  <author>
  <name>Brian MacWhinney</name>
  <email>m...@cmu.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-09-08T17:34:33Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/8d84059ee51b930a/8c9babb176b0c07f?show_docid=8c9babb176b0c07f"/>
  <title type="text">Re: kwal query</title>
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  Dear Cathy, &lt;br&gt; I would like to add a bit to Leonid&#39;s reply. Leonid showed you &lt;br&gt; how to get the results you want, using the codes you are using. My &lt;br&gt; examples point instead in the direction of using newer methods for &lt;br&gt; coding bilingual files. If you don&#39;t want to do additional work on &lt;br&gt; your files and don&#39;t want to contribute them to the database, you will
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  <author>
  <name>Leonid Spektor</name>
  <email>spek...@andrew.cmu.edu</email>
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  <updated>2008-09-08T17:12:23Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/8d84059ee51b930a/0190b7f9aade2c26?show_docid=0190b7f9aade2c26"/>
  <title type="text">Re: kwal query</title>
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  Cathy, &lt;br&gt; There are a few of ways to get what you want, but because kwal normally &lt;br&gt; output the whole tier and not just text selected with +/-s option you need &lt;br&gt; to be more specific about what exactly you want. Here is a small sample file &lt;br&gt; that I&#39;ll use for the following examples: &lt;br&gt; @Begin &lt;br&gt; @Participants: MOT Kelly Mother, JAM Target_Child
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  <author>
  <name>Cathy Lonngren</name>
  <email>cathy.lonng...@googlemail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-09-08T13:03:40Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/8d84059ee51b930a/18a8a7ebf8a61b3b?show_docid=18a8a7ebf8a61b3b"/>
  <title type="text">kwal query</title>
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  Despite lots of attempts and experiments I am having problems getting the &lt;br&gt; output I want when using KWAL on my bilingual files. Coded using &amp;lt;....&amp;gt;[@en] &lt;br&gt; and &amp;lt;....[@pt] to separate the languages, when I use FREQ to get word lists &lt;br&gt; using the following command line I get the output I desire i.e. the program
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  <author>
  <name>Brian MacWhinney</name>
  <email>m...@cmu.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-09-02T20:01:31Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/e482bc8ac2a8d56c/4b3bcc66527b6da7?show_docid=4b3bcc66527b6da7"/>
  <title type="text">hiding tiers</title>
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  Dear CLAN Users, &lt;br&gt; We have now added a new feature to the CLAN editor that allows &lt;br&gt; you to hide, by default, any sets of tiers you wish. You do this by &lt;br&gt; adding lines to a file in your LIB directory called 0hide.cut. Right &lt;br&gt; now, this only works for the latest version of CLAN for Mac, but we
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  <author>
  <name>Brian MacWhinney</name>
  <email>m...@cmu.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-08-26T20:55:23Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/831bbec29dd90fc2/188720bf14282979?show_docid=188720bf14282979"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Batch conversion of CHAT files to Praat TextGrids</title>
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  Dear Fredrik, &lt;br&gt; If you run CHAT2PRAAT on the ESL files, even those in TalkBank, you &lt;br&gt; will get a report of a large number of missing bullets. These are &lt;br&gt; missing &lt;br&gt; because they were not inserted systematically by the people creating the &lt;br&gt; CHAT corpora at the MPI in Nijmegen. For example, in the snippet you
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  <author>
  <name>Fredrik Karlsson</name>
  <email>dargo...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-08-26T10:55:31Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/831bbec29dd90fc2/12436dedc3957e12?show_docid=12436dedc3957e12"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Batch conversion of CHAT files to Praat TextGrids</title>
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  Hi, &lt;br&gt; Thank you so much for replying. Using your and suggestions did take me &lt;br&gt; coser to the goal, although I have not been entirely successful in &lt;br&gt; this. Indeed, the TalkBank version of the .cha files seems to be more &lt;br&gt; well formed, but it seems that there may be a problem still either &lt;br&gt; with the files or the chat2praat program.
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  <author>
  <name>Melissa Sherman</name>
  <email>melissa.c.sher...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-08-25T20:41:51Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/06cc07696e6326d5/fe74249985434a81?show_docid=fe74249985434a81</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/06cc07696e6326d5/fe74249985434a81?show_docid=fe74249985434a81"/>
  <title type="text">Re: help please with unix MOR?</title>
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  Thank you very much! &lt;br&gt; I had downloaded the lexicons, but placed them in the wrong spot. You even &lt;br&gt; anticipated my next question of using the spanish lexicon, too. &lt;br&gt; Everything works perfectly now, thanks again. &lt;br&gt; Melissa
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  <author>
  <name>Leonid Spektor</name>
  <email>spek...@andrew.cmu.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-08-25T20:28:20Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/06cc07696e6326d5/f1ab3dff86e36278?show_docid=f1ab3dff86e36278</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/06cc07696e6326d5/f1ab3dff86e36278?show_docid=f1ab3dff86e36278"/>
  <title type="text">Re: help please with unix MOR?</title>
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  Melissa, &lt;br&gt; Mor lexicon is not distributed with CLAN program. You need to download &lt;br&gt; the lexicon separately from URL: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://childes.psy.cmu.edu/morgrams/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; After you unzip lexicon directory you can put in inside: &lt;br&gt; /wherever/unix-clan/lib/ &lt;br&gt; So, for example &amp;quot;english&amp;quot; lexicon, should be located at: &lt;br&gt; /wherever/unix-clan/lib/englis h
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  <author>
  <name>Melissa</name>
  <email>melissa.c.sher...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-08-25T19:56:12Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/06cc07696e6326d5/14d846b154f293d6?show_docid=14d846b154f293d6</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/06cc07696e6326d5/14d846b154f293d6?show_docid=14d846b154f293d6"/>
  <title type="text">help please with unix MOR?</title>
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  hello- &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I have been trying to get the MOR program working on my linux box. I &lt;br&gt; have downloaded CLAN, and installed it, making sure to change the &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt; #define DEPDIR &amp;quot;/Volumes/pooch/clanW/(lib)/&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; to &lt;br&gt; #define DEPDIR &amp;quot;/wherever/unix-clan/lib/&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;in the common.h file. I get it to compile with an older compiler, and
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  <author>
  <name>Brian MacWhinney</name>
  <email>m...@cmu.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-08-24T20:48:59Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/831bbec29dd90fc2/6d8534a69877b201?show_docid=6d8534a69877b201</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/831bbec29dd90fc2/6d8534a69877b201?show_docid=6d8534a69877b201"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Batch conversion of CHAT files to Praat TextGrids</title>
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  Dear Fredrik, &lt;br&gt; Rather than worrying about getting a batch conversion to work, I &lt;br&gt; think it would &lt;br&gt; be best to focus first on whether you can get the conversion to work &lt;br&gt; on the &lt;br&gt; problematic file without running batch. &lt;br&gt; Also, may I suggest that you would have a much easier time of all &lt;br&gt; of this if you
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  <author>
  <name>Leonid Spektor</name>
  <email>spek...@andrew.cmu.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-08-22T16:30:24Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts/browse_thread/thread/831bbec29dd90fc2/3df2c0164770a0b8?show_docid=3df2c0164770a0b8"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Batch conversion of CHAT files to Praat TextGrids</title>
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  Fredrik, &lt;br&gt; Those CHAT files do not pass check. Without actually seen the data file &lt;br&gt; I can only guess that bullets somehow got moved to the beginning of the &lt;br&gt; line. The only characters allowed at the beginning of the line are: * @ % &lt;br&gt; and tab. Try using &amp;quot;chstring&amp;quot; command, &amp;quot;chstring -q *.cha&amp;quot;. This will
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